Inside Tuchelâs Chelsea sacking: âSilentâ flight, Cucurella deal and Nagelsmann interest
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 27. 05. 2024
- Chelsea have parted company with Thomas Tuchel just a month into the new season and look set to appoint Graham Potter as his replacement - but how did it come to this?
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Which Chelsea player will benefit most from Tuchel's departure? đ
Let's see - but Cucurella will definitely be happy đ
Maybe Pulisic.
Lukaku
@@lukegoodwin1158 watch him return next season
Fantastic! Boehly - "He's an innovator and perfectly fits our vision for the club." Might sound funny coming from an American but I think it's great that an English manager is getting a chance to run an elite team with very real chances at winning European and domestic trophies! It's been awhile.
Which player will benefit most? *All of them!*
And now Christian Pulisic will get the only thing he's wanted all along: to be judged *on his actual performance* and to be given the chance... not the guarantee... the chance... to show what he can do.
Tuchle has been through what has been a perfect storm. His divorce, Chelsea sanctions and state forced sale, new owners removing all hierarchy, becoming the main point of media reference for all going ons with Chelsea, bickering players around all those changes. Worst period for any coach possibly ever.
You could tell over the last 30 days he was hanging on by a thread. He went from super positive to pretty down and seemingly depressed
Thatâs the truth â â đ
The real reason he got sacked cos he said NO to signing Ronaldo so Yanks boss fired him.
Well written, TT was never given chance, he held the club together during that period and that's how they Thank him
Brilliant analysis bro. Couldn't have put it any better. I thought they would eventually get their own guy. I also confused though why they hire Potter first before getting football director, just seems another storm coming.
Graham Potter knows...he does the job for a year... if he wins its good for his Cv...if he loses he collects his 5 year pay packet and goes to manage Villa
The Villa/Palace backstop.
đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł Manchester united and Manchester city will suck him and bring Tuchel back what a gwan đđđđ
I don't think he did not enjoy having a say in transfers , but in reality you're only one person, one coach. Its the extra work, pressure and added technical responsibility of doing a director of football's job that kills you. And maybe that's what he meant in saying he does not enjoy it...
Like Gary Neville said ted Bohely=Ed Woodward
@@itsmeprasad1987 Neville is a clown.
@@itsmeprasad1987 completely different; Woodward and his team had or allowed little input from managers that seriously wanted certain reinforcements. Boehly was trying the opposite approach of expecting Tuchel to explain and take the time to help with transfers every day of the window.
I'm sure he was more than okay with the say in transfers if the past evidence is to go by. But the new expected role(at least reportedly) from the manager from now is to be more than that. For example, Thomas had to give his input on next director of football. That's not just say in transfers and on pitch stuff, but also the overall working process of the club. Which he has never been familiar with. Perhaps it overwhelmed him.
Potter is expected to do similar now. And the new regime probably sees him as better fit. That's the only logical sense for the early sacking. While initially the owners had good impression, they found out Tuchel wasn't the guy for the new role in the brief spell since takeover. Where the managerial role is more expanded than it ever was under Roman.
Just like most of previous regime were victims of circumstance, Thomas Tuchel was too.
What is up with you guys and this "added pressure" from having a say in transfers. It was only for one tranfer window, until they got a director of footbal in. 1 TRANFER WINDOW. And this guy is whinning about it, give me a break. Ted gave him a blank check basically, and this guy cant handle it for, i repeat again, 1 TRANFER WINDOW . deserves the sack tbh
Simon Johnson is not going to say anything bad about the club because he would obviously lose his privileges at the club with regards to the travel press conferences and what not
definitely a moral conflict of interest most fans should be aware of. That's why I always take what ever he says with a grain of salt.
travels in style does that boy no hobsons choice for that c--t
The king is dead long live the king. Unfortunately a lot of people do fall for the spin, but by any judgement, the way the owners have undermined our brilliant ex boss it disgusting. How do these fools get to be billionaires you wonder. Who thought we'd pine for the patience of roman! Matt law is the worst Boelhy sycophant.
Same as most PR puppets , donât know why he bothered to be honest
Would be nice if that David fella could put down his phone and actually listen to what you two have to say, just like you both did when he had his say!
Iâm sure you typed this before watching the video to the end or you would have seen that David shared breaking news about Potterâs appointment at the end. They were in the middle of a fluid situation and so he had to be on the lookout for any updates
@@ayodejiakinyemi I did start writing this prior, but he didnât listen to a word they said, he was too busy searching up his say
@@TetraDizzle that's his job
He does this every time. You ainât Di Marzio! Plus the transfer window is over. Show some respect, What could be that important every time.
I think the previous regimeâ recruitment mistakes are a big reason as to why he are here now. I also think Chelseaâs form this calendar year is largely down to injuries. We lost both wing backs. Our midfield kept missing time leading to Jorginho getting overplayed. Is it any surprise it was spotty. Not to mention this team had played soooo many games.
Injuries and an overplayed team excuses only works for Liverpool
Disagree the sanctions precentor keeping rudiger a huge loss and tuchel was unable to get the best out of lukaku and werner
Still tho, the refusal to move mount and Havertz permanently to midfield was a huge issue. Hopefully Potter can spot how great they could be as a midfield partnership
@@dgoldberg4597 Mount isnât an effective midfielder and Havertz definitely isnât a midfielder lol.
The lack of stick marina and Scott get for the absolute mess this squad is, is remarkable.
His divorce is affecting him more than people say it is
It always does⊠other than an adherence to faith, I donât understand why men are still getting married, especially in the position that heâs in. Divorce is catastrophic.
His divorce, sure. But turning up to the training ground with your 20 year younger girlfriend a few weeks after your wife moved out did not go over well with the religious players on the team.
Divorce ruins the men, I do feel empathy for that. Alot of divorces are done for stupid reasons. I'm sure his head is still spinning from it.
Double divorce now!!
@@chelsea9686 is this true???
We've been found out since November/ December last season. He has offered no solutions against teams that sat back Vs us and struggled to score in big games. If we conceded first, it was highly unlikely that we would score. When the system was really working, we would just occupy the penalty area and wait for the inevitable penalty while hoping to not get hit on the counter
Exactly!! If tuchel stayed we were going to be worse
finally somebody says this out loud...Everyone I know is crying poor or unfairness songs over Tuchel. I feel bad for him but he doesn't or would have further answers. Hasn't in a while.
Thatâs not Tuchelâs fault
Chelsea has created the 3rd most chances in the league since last December. Itâs the players. Tuchel doesnât send them on the pitch to just play the ball safe.
I think you are right.. somehow, teams have started to sit back and let us have more possession of the ball and attack-wise we weren't so good. If teams eventually score against us,we would eventually have to just start our playing around all over again without last-thirds passes
@@jordanhenderson8238 It is Tuchel's fault very much..Not actually to be the guy who can't finish after the chances are created, but to play the same people over and over again who miss those chances on the regular, outside their positions, or formations that don't suit their top capabilities. (aka Havertz, Werner, Hudson Odoi, Pulisic, Lukakau)...His stuborness IS very much to blame and that is why he was sacked...Sad but deserving
Why isn't anyone tying Pulisic not getting playing time and an American owner with Tuchle getting sacked.
Because this is forbidden in the media. They told to Chelsea players just to say short : Thank you
Ornstein never listens and repeats what others have just said.
If he didnt listen how could he repeat what they said? Its just basic callback communication to agree with stuff..
Let's just gloss over Champions League victory, the European Super Cup win, the World Club cup success (all under Tuchel). And let's omit to mention him having to steady the ship under the sanctions imposed by the UK government after the Russian invasion of Ukraine of 24th February and the subsequent freezing of bank accounts, an inability to recruit any fresh talent whilst Abrahamovich remained at the helm, the fact that literally the entire boardroom and management at the club have been pensioned-off, and of course there was the misfiring ÂŁ89m superstar striker who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo during his season at Stamford Bridge...
I think that The Todd would have been hard-pressed to find anyone who could have coped better under such circumstances.
The new owners hardly went out of their way to inspire confidence in Tuchel, despite his proven abilities and obvious success.
Well said. TT has been fantastic for the club and all this crap about players s wanting to leave then so be it. The whole point was to rebuild with players capable and willing to play for chelsea.
Any manager who picks Aubameyang over CR7 deserves to get fired. I would've done the same thing. Just common sense.
@@jp115jop7 you mean the cr7 that cant even get into united team? The 37 year old one right? đ
@@leogriev Yes, the second best scorer of the league last season. đ
Interesting isn't it. How he neglected to sign such a striker with a stellar pedigree.
Is it Ronaldo's ego that works against him?
Would his rampant megalomania be enough to disrupt the balance of the dressing room?
Is that why CR7 was overlooked?
There must be a reason why these huge clubs don't fancy him, regardless of his age or wage demands. He's still a phenomenonal athlete.
Or doesn't he work hard enough at tracking back and pressing?
Chelsea lost 1-0, not 4-1. And that's called a disaster??
Well, at least Pulisic and Hakim must be the happiest people on earth rn. Potter better get rid of them before they get rid of him.
Yes I agree when Hakim came on he was awful trying to take on players & donât get me started on the free kicks especially the 2nd he shouldnât of taken just shows his attitude recently.
Pulislip well⊠Iâve got nothing nice to say about him so Iâm not gonna say it.
Potter will soon learn how bad Pulisic is
Both are garbage I've supported them enough had such high hopes for ziyech thought he'd get the world to notice man was I wrong
@@maxp5422 Same here, after Pulisic goal vs City a few years ago I thought we had our new hazard. Man was I wrong
@@maxp5422 It's so clear tho he has been horribly misplayed and unhappy. Guarantee you if potter figures out how to properly play and manage him he'll go back to his ajax form
The job of a manager in EPL is a great one. Millions no matter what, lose or win, trophies or not....
I'm just hoping that Chelsea won't become like MU after Sir Alex Ferguson leaves. MU became a "business" rather than Football Club
Exactly
Iâm cautiously optimistic about the appointment, but this is definitely a valid concern.
Every major football club is a business now. It's just that most are poorly run.
This is actually worse b/c Boehly believes he's the smartest guy in the room & he's a finance guy who got rich stealing from the working class like all US Oligarchs..... One of these azz clown owns the NBA team I root for & it's the same bull ish - we need to collaborate - translated I need lots of people to kiss my arse & tell me Im smart - Boehly must go
@@jackzeldon2883 If youâre talking about Dolan, heâs a đ€Ą and a trust fund baby. Boehly hasnât proven to be that.
I kind of feel like maybe the new owners have seen what's happened at Newcastle with Eddie Howe and thought "that's what we need" harmony between the players, fans and owners and a young progressive coach who plays exciting football which is why they've gone for Graham Potter. I hope they stick with him because he could do really well at Chelsea. The main thing that needs to happen is for the fans to give him time.
I think you're thinking of Arsenal in this analogy đ
So a CL winning manager is regarded less than an English manager in an overachieving club who has won absolutely zero titles?
I as a chelsea supporter i do not get attached to managers that come to Chelsea i know he is time limited once he joins the board and the owners will love him but once poor results starts to happen and the team under performs for the standards of the board and the owner the sacking is just around the corner
We have been rubbish for months
First things first Potter should sell Pulisic and Ziyech in January. Behaviours are unacceptable.
Heâs not gonna sell Pulisic
None of your podcasts are working. Either on the app or on spotify.
dress it up however you like... this is a poorly timed decision. Either wait until the WC when there is time to bed a new Manager in or get rid in July. This squad is now going to get another overhaul next summer whether Potter stays or goes - why involve him in signings if you had doubts about keeping him? would have made more sense to just replace who left and leave it at that until you either sack Tuchel or decide to stick with him...
Chelsea fan here. I had very similar view. But I think contrary to their initial impression, the new regime found out late that Thomas was not actually suitable for their desired role, which is more than just coaching. And tried to grind it through while they came up with alternatives. The quickness of how the Potter deal got wrapped up suggests it was already brewing very early and they had plans in place. Sacking TT early in preseason would have been very bad PR, also there were many evident holes in squad which needed to be addressed in very less time no matter who the manager was.
Also details now coming out that actually it wasn't completely TT's signing as many were led to believe. Maybe has more to it. Never know what actually happened behind scenes.
One thing is for sure, the new regime certainly know how to do their PR game. I fell for it the whole preseason. This is the first stumble where some(including me) have went "hold on a minute...".
@@hnaku8748 Great analysis but getting Potter without the hierarchy sorted is mistake. I feel he succeeded at Brighton because the top was also sorted out. I don't think the new director would prefer a chosen coach instead of chosing one.
so wait until they dont qualify for the next round of champions league, and their 10+ points off top 4? becaue by the looks of it it was heading that way fast. they were/are playing terrible.
@@1MichaelPohl7 they didnât give TT a chance at all, you included somewhat on the signings and than fire him is not a good move. 5 games into the season 5 points off of first place at the time and one game into the CL was panic move.Potter plays similar football like TT. Potter wonât last more than two years if he doesnât get out of the group stage or doesnât win the europa league and doesnât qualify for CL next season.
@@1MichaelPohl7 arteta was given time, thatâs time, TT only had one true xfer window and was fired when the xfer window closed.
Ornstein faking looking at his phone like some hot take is about to land. You're just looking at Twitter!
Boehly was also considering Ruben Amorin from Sporting Lisbon, but felt give English coach a chance, that way fans and public become, oh gee great one of ours in the Top job, but sorry he will be dismissed and replaced by Amorin . Potter does not have the tactical nous to match Premier plus CL plus games every 3/4 days so to go from managing 1 game a week to that I seriously have my doubts
Why give him a 5 year contract ? Why not a 2/3?
I wonder what part TuchelÂŽs total resistance to Boehly bringing in every US marketing manÂŽs wet dream, CR7, played in his sacking?
I would have assumed that Boehly's group bought this business for its successful management team, but they have fired them all. I would be worried if Boehly was investing my money. Tuchel wasn't a yes man and did not ingratiate themselves with the new owners. Was that the problem? Tuchel is a world-class manager and such people are often difficult to manage. Boehly knows nothing about football but obviously, he wants to interfere and needs somebody malleable to control. This reminds me of the Titanic.
A bit dramatic lol. People usually want to install their own people.
@@RedPanda450 This. Itâs very common.
That's my read too - Tuchel has massive responsibilities for a club that if you lose two in a row the fan base might murder you & this douche tiny Owner wants Tuchel to talk "Soccer" w/ him & play Academy youth who are Trash..... Potter will be eaten alive at Chelsea - go look at his record, Brighton was just as bad finishing, failed to pull out of long losing streaks..... If Potter fails & I have no doubt he will this fan base is going to turn on Boehly like something we have never seen before
@@1MichaelPohl7 what boehly succes in sport exactly? His la dodgers era 2012 till now only won 1 world series
Boehly and his consortiums only care for Brands not the sport. Like you said he buying global brand that his original goal not the sports.
And speaking previous regime, Abramovich won 21 trophies during his 19 years ownership, can boehly do that???? with la dodgers record i would expect less
@@1MichaelPohl7 8 division titles mean nothing buddy, lakers? Minority ownership doesnt count đđ and he become lakers minority owner in 2021 anyway, which means by the time he got there lakers won nothing. So what success IN Sport booooohly got? Only 1 very2 sad.
Could he be better owner than Abramovich, yes he could, but not in sporting sense, i believe he would generate more cash for shareholders, more troophies than abramovich? Nah he couldnt do it, base on his statement that he is not going to spend like abramovich, he is more like his us compatriot who own liverpool, which is less spending, more cash inflow,more internet content, doesnt care about titles, more jersey sales, and brands expansions Fans ? Doesnt care that much.
Booohly buy chelsea only for expand the brands to satisfy shareholder values. His transfers windows activity are wreckless, his main appoinment more to generate incomes, he fired people who has knowledge and experienced in football. He fired coach and replace with coach who win nothing.So how come i expect Booooohly would be better than Abramovich??
Chelsea fan here who LOVES Tommy Tuchel. Very sad and angry. HOWEVER, I like what Simon was saying about Bohley & Co wanting a long term gaffer who WILL give the youth a chance while making the senior stars better players. Trying to find a silver lining in this. I can honestly say Iâve LOVED watching Brighton play the past 6-8 months. Exciting, attacking, progressive. All we can do is support Potter. And as the Arsixnil crowd always say, âtrust the processâ đđđ #carefree #ktbffh #tuchel #potter #cfc
Just confused that if they had these doubts about Tuchel, why go all in for his targets over the transfer window
The reason Tuchel work so well under Roman ownership was he gets to do exactly what he wanted which is coaching and Roman was always stern about not giving coach a say in regards to recruitment cos hes got Marina for that role. But now under Boehly maybe he wants the manager to be more involved in making those decisions which Tuchel dislikes to do as it distracted him from his work on the pitch, hence why I think we brought in Potter and and his backroom staffs which include head of recruitment. It's why I think the long-term contract is justified despite what anyone has to say about it.
It is hard to give youth a chance when two defeats later your job is on the line⊠it is not like Tuchel never gave youth a chance. He played Dagba at PSG, Pulisic at Dortmund, etcâŠ
@@randomcon123 gave Gallagher his debut
@@absolutespoon2074 umm he was already a premier league regular last season⊠so âgave Gallagher a debutâ isnât exactly much but okay⊠my point is he still gave chances to academy players when he can⊠but itâs hard to play them week in week out when you can be fired for two bad results
I have no ill will towards TT but he wasn't improving players, you mentioned attackers looking to leave, yes along with Alonso, Rudiger, Emerson, Christensen and nearly Azpi too. What club can deal with losing that many 1st and 2nd starters along with Werner, Lukaku,, Ziyech wanting out. Again this is no witch hunt but that many players looking to leave points towards more than just a big dip in form. This was the right time.
Good luck where ever you go TT.
Alonso wanted to go back to spain, rudiger wanted to stay but was not offered contract. Emerson was never good enough. Christensen alsonwanted to leave for new challenge, none were related to TT. Even werner wanted to leave because he was shit in England. Ziyech was for sale and no wanted himđ€Ł.
@@leogriev your story is so wrong, if everyone wants to leave, something is wrong somewhere, if you keep blaming all players then you are biased and from financial angle if you are the owner you wonât think like that
@@osemuihonre2380 Ahh right, its wrong because it doesnt fit with what you want to believe?
He needed compensation money for the divorce settlement so he orchestrated a design to get that done.
Exactly, Johnson, I wasn't surprised at the sack either.
Itâs very easy to draw overly simple and facile conclusions from what has happened. Just because Chelsea have historically hired and fired managers based solely on results doesnât mean to say that this is whatâs happening now. Likewise just because Boehly has never owned a PL team before it doesnât mean heâs going to make a mess of it. Iâm fact many decisions seem to make perfect sense.
Most logical comment I've seen today. People with emotional attachment to TT believe Boehly is a crazy guy with a lot of money. But if potter comes and makes a great success at the club then they'll all say they believed in him all along
Doesnât make any sense for boehly to sign tuchels targets and then sack him weeks later
Also if they care about youth why sell Gilmohr
Also Boehly bid 50 mil for players like Anthony Gordon and Romeo lavia heâs nuts
@@theodoreneer4781 with the exception of Auba, and thatâs even being charitable to your argument, name me one player that Chelsea signed that any manager wouldnât want. Itâs lazy to say these are Tuchelâs signings because you imply that they will only work under Tuchel, which is just dumb. And if you want to talk about young players, it was Tuchel that wanted to get rid of Gilmour, not Boehly. Plus, Boehly has gone and purchased some of the best youth players in the world, so I donât know what youâre really talking about.
I understand the decision, but still think the new regime miscalculated some things early on. If they had their research done well, they'd have well known what they were getting with Thomas Tuchel. A fantastic coach, who's just that. Not a sporting director or even an advisor like Ragnick and other figures.
I excuse them as a Chelsea fan because they are new and learning as well. But ideally it could have been smoother than this abrupt sacking and pile of PR confusion.
Hopefully things get better now. I agree with the hiring of Potter.
Boehly wants to change the system in Chelsea, similar to LA Dodgers. Dodgers is successful because the way the owner, the manager and the squad communicate is like we are one, we are all The LA Dodgers, collaborative style. It's a big difference than Abramovic, he cares about the club but communication between Abramovic and the manager is limited and less involved; he leaves it to the manager. Graham Potter, Tony Bloom and the Brighton squad atmosphere similar to the Dodgers, they are involved and collaborated. I think that's why Boehly wants Potter right away, after observing Graham Potter when Chelsea was negotiating a contract for Cucurella.
I do not support Chelsea but I wish Graham Potter luck. It is a big gap in managing Brighton to that of Chelsea. He has not only the EPL to cope with but also The Champions League. I do hope he does not go the same way as other Chelsea mangers.
David is always checking his phone on these things...feels a bit rude to the others imo
Yeah, it's just a way of saying, "I don't care what you have to say." And no, you can't do both. Multitasking is a myth
The speed with which potter was appointed would indicate that the new owners had this planned weeks ago
No, I don't think so. I think Todd & Co. know exactly the type of manager/coach they want. TT simply didn't fit the model, as they soon found out. So, they quickly looked around, did their research and nailed down a couple of possible candidates who would fit their model. Todd & Co., I am sure, won't be too upset if they don't get too far in CL. Winning the EPL is their focus. Remember that the pinnacle of North American sporting success is winning your league. Chelsea recently won CL (2020) and Super Club etc. You can't win everything in one year with new owners and a new philosophy...
This is how it should be.. free content. Dont know why you charge money for online subscription to your site, when i click on it and it asks for payment i just exit and go to another news outlet
They are smug and deluded to think their take on everything is worth it. Dumb hipsters fall for it.
Ornstein: Lets not try and sensationalize the situation
-------- 2 minutes later-------
Ornstein: Thomas Tuchel carried Chelsea on his back all last year (Oh please give me a break)
Nothing new from David đ€Šââïž
Well said Simon Thompson!
Lets get over it, I thought Ancelotti sacking was a mistake but look what weve won since. Great signing of GP. TT has history of not getting on with owners ie Mainz Dortmund and PSG
On Mainz nothing happened. On Dortmund the issue was that their bus got bombed on the day they were gonna play the champions league match, and the match was postponed but the hier ups decided to accept a 24 or 48 hour postponement and Tuchel argued that his players were not in the correct mental state to play a game so soon after their bus being bombed (with them inside). PSG... Who hasn't have a problem with Leonardo?
This narrative is played out. He got on well with Marina and Cech.
@@Carloss86py he's fallen out with owners a lot where others haven't. It's a pattern
@@seadkolasinac7220 he hasn't fallen out with the fans at Dortmund or Mainz...
Heâs 4/4 for his players not liking him.
Most managers would love to have more authority / say in recruitment. Tuchel has a coaching team to support him. They are as much to blame for the downward performance trend since end of last season. Tuchel did not have a plan to stop and fix the poor performances.
Thereâs a difference between having a say and giving insight than having to be a very active in a specific role. Thatâs what Petr Cech was therefore. People really overlook the context of the inconsistency Chelsea have had this calendar year
It isn't a five second work as many assume it to be. These are dedicated roles for a reason. And it was not only about recruitment of players, but also things like advice on who to bring on as director of football. That's a whole different thing to what most coaches train for. But that's the void Potter is seen as more capable of filling. It's a new structure/role. The 'holistic' approach as some are saying.
Tuchel is still a fantastic coach, just a victim of circumstance. The sacking wasn't based on just results.
Does David Ornstein not realize he's on camera while looking at his phone throughout the whole conversation? Disrespectful to say the least, if not to the audience then to his colleagues
I thank Thomas Tuchel for everything he has done for Chelsea, long reign Graham Potter.đ
can't wait to see how he handles that fool Aubamayang and his antics.
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Tuchel was wasting a lot of talent out of his inability to take advice or listen to the players input besides his and his only, he was wasting talents like lukaku etc
Reading the "Welcome to Chelsea Graham Potter" has given me the worst feeling I have ever experienced within
over 50 years supporting Chelsea!. Not just the what has happened in the last 24 hours but the how.
Get therapy then.
@@Agtsmirnoff đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Potter is a downgrade no doubt
Yeah that is a really sheltered and good life if this is the worst feeling in 50 years. I donât understand how many fans werenât seeing the disaster that tuchel had become
@@pabis6817 so you think Potter can win the UCL, super cup and club world cup?
Hahaha
The striking force apparently did not enjoy TTs tactics
It's all very sad to the honest. This Tuchel situation reminds me of Mourinho taking over at Chelsea the second time round and pushing Mata out. It was an extremely unpopular decision at the time but it ended up being the right one in the long term. Hopefully, Potter is able to silence the naysayers and be a success at the club for many years to come.
If anything, most are saying Potter has earned the right to be in this role. And I agree as a Chelsea fan.
Disappointed to see TT leave, specially so early in season. But I also realise it was something that had to be done. It could have been smoother for sure, but the owners are new too so we'll have to excuse a bit. Hopefully this is the start of an upward trajectory.
How was pushing mata out the right decision?
@@viceversan1 I don't believe it was although others may argue otherwise since Chelsea won the league title the season after.
Simon Johnson actually chats such pure shite at time.
Doesn't want to play young players? oh but he introduced Broja, Gallagher and Chalobah already (the youth to experience balance is already pretty steady, doubt potter will disrupt that)
Players seeming sad after the Zagreb loss? obviously they probably got a bollocking for losing to the worst team in the group.
Completely ignoring the fact that Tuchel went through a divorce, stress of holding the team together, having to manage the media and not having a summer off?
Finding it weird that Tuchel doesn't want to be in charge of transfers, despite making it clear from the start that he doesn't want to be in charge of it.
Not questioning that the ownership made a decsion based off football results, without a director of football, despite it being agreed that they have no knowledge of football or the english game
Liam Towney is so much better when it comes to Chelsea news as he leaves his biases at the door.
Club pr puppet
Love this content guys.
The new owners were looking for a collaborative manager which Tuchel really isn't and Potter is. They know how important this is. The LA Dodgers are by far the best team in baseball and it's not just this year. The whole organization thrives because of this collaboration. And they've seen this in other organizations like the LA Rams who just won the Super Bowl.
Collaborative in what aspect?
Submissive to the owners
How many World Series have the dodgers win? I believe one?
@@rastaman7140 Actually they've won 7, but 1 lately, although it would have been 2 as the other team cheated. But no other teams have won more than 1 lately. Their team this year just won their division with 42 games left to go. No other team ever did that. They're 55 games over .500. And 6 games better than any other team in baseball and 10 better than the next team after that. My point was about how great the management is. They're doing what Todd is going to do. They hire the very best people for various jobs and then support them fully. That's how any sports team or business excels.
A lot of people are already hating on Todd I think a lot because he's American. And also they fired TT. TT did great the first 50 matches of his tenure. But not that great the last 50. People love him because of the championships, which is understandable. But look at the play lately. Give Todd a chance and time to implement his vision. You'll love the long-term results. Actually, people should be thrilled he's the one who bought the team.
@@BCE-111 under TB they have won one. And he the way he is operating is wrong and the team is not any good with the new manager who no experience in big competitions, did you see the lineup today? Iâm assuming Potter is safe bc he collaborates with TB. Chelsea wonât be the same anymore.
Tuchel sacking was wrong.
Incorrect
This Americans are going to run Chelsea to the ground
This should have been known and now its inevitable...
Lol what? Tuchel had a horrible start to the season. Humiliated in Europe. And lost the dressing room. Only shock about the sacking was Tuchel wasnât given time after the transfer window. But the writing has been on the walls for months now starting back from last season.
Americans are winners, period. They know business, money, etc. Thereâs no owner thatâs a âfootball personâ
@@DiegoMartinez-or4sc Humiliated? 1-0???
@@abiodunodeleye7984 Glazers, Kroenke, and currently FSG again..
Yup they know things alright.. đ
Tuchel is suffering burnout
sounds right :/ may he use the time well to relax and recharge.
i wish they wouldn't have sold Werner.... could have been great with a little more confidence
Tuchel needed new coaching staff. He was completely lost on what to do tactics wise and players just didn't like his style of play.
TT's style made them champions of Europe and the World. What more do they want ?
Imagine being the club owner having a coach who made a 100 million striker want to leave, getting loaned out and ending up with a team that has no striker and more players wanting to leave. No investor wants to see the capital (largely player value) get halved by the stubbornness of a coach. From a business perspective every other day under Tuchel the owner was starting to figure out he increasingly overpaid for the takeover.
Boehly I bet asked Tuchel to give Pulisic a run of games to see what they had. Tuchel then spit in his face and gave Ziyech the start and brought Pulisic in as wing back in second half. Nobody deserves a start but they were awful and Tuchel could of played Pulisic and I believe intentionally chose to stick it to Boehly. You can think whatever you want about Pulisic but business is business and weâre talking $100âs of millions with American audience coming up to World Cup. Iâm not saying play him just for that but give him a couple games see what you got. And if nothing there loan him out or sell him.
Tt wonât try it under Roman
wtf, you expect them to be having a karaoke party after losing or something
Naw, but u have insight as to what hay have happened. Complete silence, is a complete break down of a team
Tuchel to Brighton..
pulisic needs to be shown the door,he is not a top team striker,i feel he would do better in a midtable team where he is the main man
The whole thing is senseless to me and such a great manager blamed for for a few bad prefomances?? And hes replaced by graham pottrer from Brighton?? Iv got to be in some hideous nightmare ??? He could of turned this round then planned out his strat for the season ,,,,, terreble waste?? Our loss will inevitably be
Man utds ,gain that wont hurt much will it?? DW NORFOLK U.K.
I think the main reason of sacking Tuchel is Christian Pulisic and not signing Ronaldo. The media wonât tell us about it
All he had to do was play the kid since the others were not performing. Instead he started Ziyech who flew to Ajax for a move and brought on Pulisic for Wingback. Thatâs a slap in the ownerâs face, he canât try it to Roman.
Since so many coaches at Chelsea left, is it not time to look elsewhere?
5 yr deal to Potter doesnât give me Roman trigger happy vibes. Why give the guy a 5 yr deal if they werenât looking to build long term? Heâd had gotten a 2 yr contact. I also think Potter is the best English manager out there right now. Heart Attack FC changes owners, but my blood pressure remains the same đđ€Șđ
Potter probably wouldn't have moved for a 2 year contract. He wanted to move to a big club but he needed some sort of assurance he wasn't just a placeholder they could ditch at minimal expense. With 5 years they're showing their commitment.
That's the thing, they offered him a 5 year contract for the long term. They have a plan and to them, Graham Potter is the person to lead Chelsea, they already had a lot of information on him even when Chelsea made an approach for Cucruella . He's not getting sacked even if Chelsea don't make the top 4, it's all part of the long term plan in their vision. Boehly has made a success out of the LA Dodgers and the LA Lakers and have a plan for Chelsea, some of you guys just don't see it yet
@@reignofcreed9878 lakers havenât won anything under TB who is a minority owner and the dodgers have only won 1 WS with all the money spent.
@@reignofcreed9878 also contracts no mean anything anymore, I give him two years, most likely they will be In Europa league and if they win that and canât qualify for CL the pressure is on.
He has at least one thing going for him - the subtitle generation spells "Too Cool" when Simon says Tuchel.
Edit: okay, his name apparently is Thomas Tucker when Adam speaks.
I think Brighton though Potter would be offered the England job after the World Cup. The list of English managers in Premiership is not not long, Lampard and Gerard are not having much joy and Potter looked a shoe in. If he was offered the England manager Brighton would have to release him perhaps without the high level of compensation. That said it leaves Brighton with a huge hole in its coaching staff as other members will also leave. As 2 years is about as long as you get at Chelsea I would not be surprised to see Potter back at Brighton as he was the perfect fit for Brighton with its enterprising recruitment of young players
Poor owners looks like Chelsea gonna be a middle table team no more trophys while potter is in charge poor owner at Chelsea now with no clue
Cry harder
Spot on mate ! Iâm agree with you
about 15min video which would only need about 1"shorts" to get the info accross
Lol these guys make it sound as though they know everything but get so many calls wrong & in truth donât know much about how a football club works.
The air of intellectualism on these specific types of channels gives them a sense of legitimacy (valid or not) when they speculate, compared to other channels and commentators who are a little less eloquent and professional.
they called Lampard's sacking before anyone else. Also Ornstein is one of, if not the most reliable out there for transfers. They're better than most journalists or the dreaded Twitter ITKs, so I think your comment is way too harsh
Isnât it part of the managerâs job/ mandate to dictate transfer? Tuchel not wanting to be part of this decision making is odd to me.
It was not just that. His new role also required him to give input on other things such as whom to take on as sporting director. A role no coach trains for.
He was very happy with Roman's structure where he felt he had the right support and input balance.
Tuchel had lots of bad luck with injury but I find sometimes when you've been staring at a problem to solve for too long it becomes unsolvable and fresh eyes and ideas need to be brought in to figure it out, Like an old cold case that ends up being solved by new detectives years later going over the same evidence that led nowhere years prior. Not saying that Tuchel wouldn't have been able to eventually find a solution but I definitely felt we still had a ways to fall before any potential upside, and I really wasn't enjoying the style of football we were playing. If nothing else I hope Potter can play more attractive football that's a joy to watch win or lose. COYB up the bloody chels
Well the recruitment did not work out to well for him when he told the septic tank he didn't want the Portuguese 'er yanks get upset
Thinking about it. Just how many Chelsea signings were more Graham potters selections? Graham will have known this for a while. Mark cucurella is Graham potterâs number 1.
I wouldn't be surprised if Pulisic becomes a starter under Potter. USA owners sack coach who didn't want to start USA player. I smell a conspiracy.
The job of a football manager is fickle to say the least........he is & always will be a world class manager and he wonât be out of work for to longđŻđđŸâœïž
Thank you Thomas..
Simon needs to get his points delivered way faster, man is digressing every each 2 sentences.
How an elite coach got treated like that is beyond me especially with the state there in now.... Potter for tuchel is the biggest step. Down in history of football I would imagine
Ornstein bloody rude man
The big issue here .it politics boehly wants to bring english coach so that he can be please FA and to removing all people of the former boss to conntrol the club easily
Shame bcuz long term he would have been good , came across as nice passionate man
He was losing it so he added to go he's a very good coach but he loss it
Had no plan to fix things
Tuchel will find a club like Chelsea because he is an outstanding coach but Chelsea wouldnât find a better coach than Tuchel. He is one of the best there is.
With all due respect to Potter. This gives me avb vibes
AVB won Europa treble with Porto before arriving. This is more like Sarri, just that Potter at least has Swedish Cup to his name.
American owners⊠what could go wrong
2:18 he has done enough to earn one more season for sure
The tunnel cam visuals of Chelsea players and Man City Players in CL Final was Prime Tuchel Drilled Psyche.
Tuchel lost Rudiger, Lukaku behaved like a nostalgic pisshead, Alonso, Azpi all wanted to leave. The defence needed time to get used.
Probably the pressure post new ownership was still same as it was since Russian Intervention in Ukraine and players wanted more rest also since it's a WC Year.
Well, well, well
The loss of Rudiger was huge..
After his comments re Mendy I find it difficult to be sympathetic
Tuchel clearly lost the plot. Constant changes in formation and players doesn't help form/rhythm!
How would YOU deal with players downing tools, Mr Genius?
@@BinkyTheGoddessDivine it's the manager who has to keep them on their toes. He has to keep them motivated. Keep their desire to win and play 100% throughout the squad.
They could see his decisions weren't right and evidently the results proved this!
@@JPzizou if it had happen just to Tuchel, I would have agreed. But it has happened Lampard, Conte, Jose. This clearly indicates the blame should be on players.
@@JPzizou my guy ,this Potter also like to change his formation and plays player out of position đ€Ł
@@hazard1one let's see what happens. He's getting sacked or winning titles
We need to root out the player power at Chelsea and I can assure you, potter will be a success! There are players who do think they are bigger than the club and hence when they want someone out, they make sure they get it done!
Live by the sword die by the sword.
New owner same old Chelsea.
This is what happens when non football owners gets involved
Typical boogierization of TT like Chelsea has done to all managers
Let's be honest, tuchel inherited a squad that had already been built and blooded by previous managers and staff. He inherits great teams or teams on the verge of greatness. He hasn't built or maintained one.
He's clever but he isn't a level of manager that can build, maintain and control an entire club.
So Tuchel just wanted to manage the team...he didn't care who came??? That's stupid from Tuchel if it's true.
Chelsea will regret this move. Tuchel did so much
Chelsea owners now have 'yes' man they wanted but sacking TT has to be a 'sore wan' ffs! Fans will not be happy. ps Not a Chelsea fan đ đ
all just allegations, who knows for sure? From next week G. Potter will have to deliver, otherwise Mr. Poccetino will come .... The new management is poor, their recruitment also, thatÂŽs the truth.
Bad mistake by potter - the new owner looks like its his train set and he wants to be station master, driver and guard all in one. Get experts in.
Tuchel over paid Marc Cucurellla same as Lukaka last year,
No players want to play for him after 1 to 2 years, unable to or donât want to keep big payers like Rudiger and Christensen and let them go for free, I donât think the club like any of those transactions, sold good player like Alfonso, sold or loan good players like Hudson Odoi, Tammy Abraham, bench good players like Pulisic, ZyetchâŠ. Loosing or tied games to teams from MLS and in EPL like Everton, Leads,South Hampton and weak team in Champion league,
He is a big club spender (over paid)
Most player do not happy with him after over a year playing
Him,
Inside Tuchel's sacking is a couple of nuts - hopefully
If you're not gonna win anything, might as well do it playing Potter's beautiful football than Tuchel's boring football.
On the other hand, Potter could possibly win something with a better squad than Brighton.