FX Impact Regulator (AMP) regulator creep fix.
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- čas přidán 5. 02. 2022
- Here is my procedure on how to completely eliminate regulator creep on the FX AMP regulator.
I have fixed and resolved many AMP regulator issues including the commonly know reg creep.
Watch and learn how I do it to achieve best possible results.
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Thank you Steve appreciate all you do for the community.
Thank you for the comment 🙏
Brilliant work, great tutorial 👏. I love the idea of how to up the reg pressure by taking a dry shot and quickly give a small turn so they’re not touching yet 😉👍👏
Thanks pal, glad it helped you out 👍🏻
great vid Steve. A little effort always pays a massive reward. I get reg creep if I fill too quick. She will get the SB treatment next time shes in bits. 🤣
Awesome. Worked perfectly. Thank you.
Very informative and clear.
Many thanks 🙏👍
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for sharing, great info.
Keep it coming :)
Thank you!
lol good idea of dry firing and then increasing the reg pressure . i do the exact same procedure but my reason was that there is less pressure in the plenum hence leading to less strain on the surfaces.(same idea though)
Perfect video mate thanks a lot 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Appreciated mate 👍🏻
Outstanding video, nice detail, quality at its Best! Great advice as well on it’s just not a good idea to adjust any airgun under such high pressure and brilliant on the quick adjust immediately after firing! Thanks buddy!
Your very well mate 👍🏻
Great video thanks.
Brilliant Video, it's answered a lot of questions about Reg creep on my sub 12 Maverick, i have wondered about fitting the adjuster screw with new O'Rings fitted going through the threads of the Reg body causing damage to the O'Rings, i have 11 washers in my Maverick Reg, 6x 0.5 4x 0.4 and 1x 0.5 is there any particular order in size they should go on the shaft.
Thanks buddy, glad the video helped you out. Just try and match the washers in pairs as best as you can.
Nice vid mate thanks 🙏🏼
Thanks for the comment, glad you found the video of interest 👍🏻
Nice video spot on.
Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Great vid,
I see some vids they grease up them belvil washers,
Surly polishing is better than covering them with silicone grease.
Great Video, did it some time ago, and never ever had creep againg, reg set @ 160 bar
Awesome man
Thanks a lot ❤
I just rebuilt my old Crown reg. Those small 2X1 mm O-rings are difficult to work with; it definitely requires patience.
Good job
Hi ,like how you adjust the reg screw (firing a shot off) so No damage to the reg /piston ,this must work for Decreasing reg pressure (turning screw clockwise) ?
Be good to know your thoughts on that !
What a detailed explanation and tutorial on Regulators! Thanks, PA!
what should be the highest reg pressures (first reg & second reg?) FX Maverick can handle shooting at, in .177 (FAC)? i'm using 16gr JSBs, with 13gm hammer, PW 2, Screw 0.
I figured out my Maverick had most O-rings dried, and after a day of shooting it developed a leakage coming out of barrel...
waiting for the O-rings kit for now...
Thank you. You are most welcome 🙏
Any suggestions on Reg Pressures I should stay below?
I was running at 170/150 bar with 13gm hammer weight on this 500mm barrel… was that a lot than what the setup can handle?
@@SoulSniped for .17 pellets id be looking at running around 140 bar 1st reg and 100 bar second. Try around there 👍🏻
@@precisionairguns5553 got it. should have the o-rings by weekend, have additionally arranged silicone grease, hex keys, O-rings hook and pick kit and polishing papers... Weekend's gonna full service Days :)
Your videos have build this confidence... can't thank You enough...
can you please show us how fast plenum filing after this Polishing?
this is the best reg video ever I've done my reg on my mk1 before but when I took my piston out it had 16 belville washer in it from the factory ,ever heard of that ? I put them all back maybe a mistake but I'm doing the rebuild again should I just put 11.the new reg i bought has 15 why?
Hey buddy, if it is working then put it back together as it was. Its not then amount of washers necessarily but more to do with the thickness of the washers. Thanks for you comment 🙏
Good afternoon, I clean the same as yours, but this is for what fine brass sandpaper to sand, do you want flat or slightly conical?
Brilliant tutorial, everything explained very clearly, thank you for sharing your knowledge. You mentioned Maverick regs, my .25 sniper secondary reg has 12 washers, surprised to see 5 x .45mm, 4 x .35mm & 3 x 0.52mm.expected them to be all the same is this normal in your experience? Thanks in advance.....
Thanks you for your kind words and comment, it is much appreciated.
As for your Maverick regulators, I’ve seen them with 10,11 and 12 washers on the stack and also of various thickness.
If it works and recovers normally then consider them good buddy.
@@precisionairguns5553 that's interesting, thanks for that. I've got mine bits today to try & improve recovery time, hence came across your tutorial. Taking well over a minute to recover, sometimes 2 mins, but has barely any creep over night, 0.2 of a bar if that, with digital test gauge in place. May purchase new set of washers or replace with huma.
@@pcppestcontrol9420 feel free to join my group on Facebook Precision Airgunning. We can discuss your gun issues on there. I’ve also experienced similar recovery issues on dual regulator systems and slow recovery before.
Feel free to join and we can help sort you out 👍🏻
@@precisionairguns5553 thanks once again, off to checkout Facebook now.......cheers
Hi mate awesome vid by the way I've a fx M3 in .25 my first reg keep creeping a little should I polish it the same way as u did to cure it, thx
Thanks for the comment matey, much appreciated.
As for your front regulator, exactly the same procedure and process 👍🏻
By the way thanks for the video.
Thanks you for your comment, please like and subscribe 👍🏻
Thanks for the vid, think my regulators could do with some tlc. My M3 first reg seems to go down in pressure from 180 to 160 bar, have you seen this reduction before?
My second reg sometimes creeps from 150 - 153bar and causes the fps to increase and reduce after quite a few shots (~100)
What grit paper were you mostly using? Were you going up in stages through all 6?
Thanks.
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Great vid. Is this a service you can provide, I'm in the UK and been having creep issues with my sub 12 impact .177
Yes sure thing. Contact me on my Facebook group Precision Airgunning and we can sort it out 👍🏻
Great info, me I know kind of micropaper you used?
3m polishing cloths pal
👍
Thanks for the video, some great tips. Do you lubricate the belleville washers when you install them like most other videos I've seen?
Thanks buddy. Yes just a light greasing 👍🏻
I know this is a little odd, but how are you making sure the angle of your parts is perpendicular? Also, do you not use any lapping fluid?
Both parts are convex and the sealing face is only the very very centre of the parts.
No need to use any lapping paste or fluoride is you use the polishing cloths.
I have problem finding the kind of microfiber cloth in 3M range, can you advise part number?
Link for the 3m sanding cloth is in the description
Could you describe how to remove regulator from the block?
I remove the rear reg gauge and use LP air in the reg gauge hole to blow the piston out while maintaining pressure and control on the reg piston, so that it doesn’t shoot out. Hope that helps 👍🏻
My Mk2 just blew all its pressure in one hit upon firing, blowing at my cheek, now it will not fill with air. Everything looks ok upon stripping but havent touched the reg... is this the area I should be looking at would you know? Can't think what would cause a catastrophic leak and air coming out barrel when trying to fill.... thanks in advance bud.
@@gordy1961 join my group Precision Airgunning buddy and ask on there 👍🏻
At the end of your video you say your a fan of using higher regulator pressure. So you set the reg a little higher (how much higher?) and then use the micro/macro to adjust the the pellet speed down?
My example, I can shoot my chosen ammo at 975fps using 115-120 bar regulator pressures and increasing hammer force.
However,
I shoot my ammo at 975 fps with 140 bar regulator and less hammer force, so a short sharp burst of air instead of a lower prolong burst of air. The gun shoots, handles so much better, it is much more quieter with less recoil and it actually uses only uses 1 bar per shot instead of 2-3 bar per shot on the lower reg settings.
How this helps you out and answers your question.
That is very helpful information. What percent below the plateau velocity do you like to be at? Lots of people say 3-5% is good for a consistent and flat shot string and reduces lower velocity first shots. But at that range the gun does use a lot of air.
@@garrettlutzow1732 pretty much anywhere just below I test for groups to find the most accurate node. More often than not it is 10-15fps below peak. 👍🏻
@@garrettlutzow1732 can you please explain it to me what is plateau velocity?
This a brilliant video on an Fx regulator, very informative and gives a good explanation , feeling of how it works and how to get the best from it. Thank you.
Dear Brother,
After endless search, l guess l have found a probable solution outhere..My brand new FX Impact M3 .177 1st Regulator creeps between 155-175 bar quite frequently. Now the issue is, l live in the country where neither FX provide services nor dealers have spare parts. It's quite risky to try fixing on my own(as of now..lol)..So do you think 20bar creep will have drastic effect on accuracy?..would really love to hear from you..
Thanks
Yes, 20 bar creep is massively unacceptable and will need fixing
@@precisionairguns5553 Then the final hope is your tutorial..thanks once again..
Hello, many thanks for your video. I am desperate as I am stuck with my Impact MKII; since 7 days I can't use it. My problem is I can't reach 150Bars into my plenum, I installed the regulator 11washers, regular set up )()()()()() but even opening quite much the set screw I can not reach the 150Bars. Why? If I unscrew more the regulator set screw it vents and blow out all the air of the plenum. Can someone help me? Many thanks.
Join my Facebook group Precision Airgunning and you will find you answer there.
Make sure you complete all the joining questions to get it.
@@precisionairguns5553 I don't use Fb since long. But thanks anyway :))
@@MrLlosent then your missing out on the best airgun group there is.
Hi. You should try using slightly thicker washers.
Tenes un correo electrónico??? gracias
Hello, sir. After a few hours of storage, my first bullet slowed by 30 fps. What should I do about it
That is either regulator creep or regulator settle pressure
I'm having a nightmare with my Dreamline, always had bad creep, couldn't fix it, got a Huma reg, same thing. fps spread is all over the place, the creep is so bad I have to have the gun at around 9 ft/lbs because the first and second shot will go over 12 otherwise
Sorry to here that. Join my group Precision Airgunning and we will help you get it sorted.
@@precisionairguns5553 where do I join the group mate? Is there a forum or something?
@@doomfathertm8771 Facebook
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@@precisionairguns5553 Ok thanks, got it, submitted to join (y)
can you use wet and dry paper to do this?
As per what I said in the video, DO NOT use wet and dry paper!
Just checked your video as I've developed reg creep 'brilliant' searching but can't find those microfibre clothes you're using. Can you put me on the right track plz 🙏
Thanks for the comment, much appreciated.
Have a look for the 3m micro fiber cloth kit from Stewmac
www.stewmac.com/luthier-tools-and-supplies/supplies/sanding-and-polishing/sandpaper-and-finishing-papers/3m-flexible-polishing-papers/
@@precisionairguns5553 many thanks got some
Can you please tell me the oring size of the reg screw.
Yes sir, sure thing. They are both 2x1mm
@@precisionairguns5553 thank you
What happens when the c1 brake
The gun wont shoot or fire the projectile
@@precisionairguns5553 C1 5.5mm ó 6mm medida?
@@daiwangel 6mm
@@precisionairguns5553 thanys you
At what the price is with this gun the regulators should be polished and bullet proof. I have only had my gun for a little over a month and have already had to replace the first reg. Now I am sending the gun for gun creep because I really do not think its okay to have two problems in less than a month. It better come back with a good tune and no problems as to ship the gun will be $100 Fedex that I have to pay.
Bullshit.
Sorry to hear you have had problems, thats a bummer. The regulators are not as bad as people make out tbh, when set up correctly they work perfectly. Mine can sit with full bottle pressures and not creep at all. The issues arise from it being a fully adjustable regulator, people like to over turn to often, this is what causes the damage and the problems.
Best advise I can give anyone, is do the work and set reg and never touch it, if if you have to adjust like I mention in the video.
Hope you get yours sorted
Had mine 3 years and it’s just started to creep, all parts polished as per video. It’s an impact Mk2 .177 what reg pressure do you find best in your experience. Factory setting was 45
What is the cause when your reg pressure is the same as your bottle pressure
That problem is a result of damaged contact faces or a failure of the lower 2x1mm oring on the brass adjuster screw.