Masahiko Kimura's GENIUS solution for guard pullers
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That's a good technique and it works, kimura was a brilliant judoka and this is brilliant for us jujutsuka and judoka
Indeed
@@Chadi il have to show my old jujutsu instructor that technique he'd definitely recognise it
Kimura was a real professional.
Of course he also knew all the tricks outside the ring (corruption included) with the big mouth (compare Muhammad Ali).
Bluming did not talk about Kimura but about Mas Oyama and the other Japanese legends. Bluming meant that the Japanese believe all what somebody says. I think they just have respect and say 'hi".
Yamashita (128 kg) had a conversation with Kimura (89 kg) in Maastricht where he became world champion and accepted all what he told him. Kimura said that he threw a 180 kg opponent out of the ring with his sumo trick. Leaving the ring means loss.
Kimura beat the crap out of Gracie in their Rorion Gracie declared “Jujutsu” contest. A guy I did Judi with in 1990s said there was Gracie Judo on 1960s.
@johnm249 and now I'll blow your mind, go get a scraper for that wall cleaning. Jiu-jitsu and Judo used to be one martial art called ju-jutsu. Then under the influence of Japanese rightwingers it was changed to ju-do. Then the first guys that came to teach in Brazil, they did not have the blessing of their Japanese judo organization, so they circled back to the old name, then Gracies, and others came along and started focusing more on the ground game and the Gracie jiu jitsu/BJJ was born and since then we have two martial arts, aikido used to be judo as well. The highest belt used to be the blue belt. And let's see, what else, nah that's pretty much it for now. (I train judo and bjj in Brazil, in a school founded by a Takeo Yano student and currently ran by his sons [rest in peace and glory, Grande Mestre Sá] and I also love history a whole lot).
Outstanding educational video Chadi.
I just learned something new from this.
When I did Gracie jiujitsu in the early 90s with my brothers at home they were dirty fighters so when I pulled guard one liked to stomp or drop his knees into my groin.
The other liked to grab and twist testicles.
So I learned the guard position had it's vulnerabilities when fighting those whom are not playing a sport and are sadistic.
I really like Masahiko Kimura's attack upon guard pullers.
I saw a retired catch wrestler, Billy Robinson of Japans infamous snake pit grappling school, once show how Karl Gotch use to leg lock guard pullers by attacking their knee.
That sounds extremely painful and dirty
HAHAHAHHAHA wtf
@@Chadido a video on how catch wrestlers deal with the guard.
ayooo?
Bro freaking ball twisters ought to get kicked out of the gym wtf
In our sambo, we were taught to do something similar. I had a many a bruises from landing after being airborne in sambo. More than I will ever give someone with the technique.
As someone already commented, that's the wrong way to pull guard. Normally you'd either put the foot on the hip, or you'd do a cross step and rotate into a De La Riva guard, on the hiki-te side. And even then, you don't just stay centered to your opponent but always try to create an angle. This isn't to say there aren't ways to pass when someone's pulling to guard but there are much easier options if someone's pulling guard the wrong way.
Facts. This guard pull was 🗑️
But how are the Judo lovers supposed to feel better about themselves?
Exactly... this video is goofy. He's not even taking away a posted leg like they are claiming in the video because the "guard puller" already jumped his other leg in the air.... You can maybe call that jumping guard but even then it is not good technique from the one pulling/jumping guard. Funny how so many comments are going on about how great this is...
I love how you dive deep into the history of judo/grappling and what we can learn from it. Love your content. Thank you sir
Can't wait to work on this one.
Have fun!
Another excellent presentation with analysis, the only additional comment i could/would make is that if you look closely you will see that Kimura also lands with his reaping knee on his opponent's chest/abdomen (not only does it appear to be uncomfortable, but i can't help but think it also stuns His opponent enough to give Kimura an opportunity to position Himself in a more advantageous Kesa Gatame) !
You’re right. Also, I might be wrong but to me it appears Kimura also gives a slight hop with his left leg just after reaping with his right. I think that helps him control his trajectory so he lands more straight down on his opponent. So his opponent hits the ground harder than he expected, then has a man land on his ribs-gotta be distracting.
Man, I love both Judo and BJJ. This system indeed works miracles.
Another one for outside competition that also works is when they engage the guardpull with 1 foot on the ground. Just step on and keep standing on the ankle, while sinking your but straith into the ground while he falls backward. Itwill shred the ankles ligaments.
Again, do not use it in competition, but when you are attacked for real... It will be very hard for the other guy persuing you with a snapped ankle. Self defence is awesome.
I've never had an attacker pull guard on me, though.
@@asengeorgiev7848 Some folk find out after engaging in combat that their mouth wrote a cheque their body could not cash…
Sally, this is 90% of people initiatief a fight outside a fighting ring.
Great breakdown and post, as always! Thank you.
The guard puller is falling straight backwards which most modern guard pullers don't. In this instance he would fall towards his right, maybe 45 degrees to Tori's line. It would possibly reduce Tori's ability to move to kesa gatame in this fashion. He would need to pass to the other side. Not sure without trying it.
This would make it easier as more weight is planted on the leg, regardless if passed or not, if you hit this off of the guard pull this is an automatic 2 points per IBJJF.
guard pulling is dead. There was a time like 10 years ago where it was okay. Where you could attack from your back and do okay. Now it's been solved and now you pretty much always want to be on top.
@@tgo007agreed. There isnt a top level competitor anymore who doesnt train anti-BJJ to some extent. It workes back when you would have zero resistance from a confused opponent
@@tgo007 Not even close. Guard pulling is prevalent at every level of competition at every weight class. Gordon Ryan pulls guard regularly.
@@egdm1235 modern no gi is more like wrestling. Ryan hasn't competed in forever. Low level you can do w/e sure. If you pull guard, you're immediately trying to sweep.
Very educational and very informative, thank you 🙇🏾♂️
All ways ae pleasure to see Kimura content 👌 OSSS
Very good content. Good video, thanks Chadi.
An excellent video. Thank you for widely sharing your work.
Many thanks!
All this old footage is excellent, nice video mang
Great video, very informative
I will be trying this move for sure. Great find, I hope you have more to share with us!
Excellent video and explanation. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much love your content always learning and appreciating with every video have a great new years! 🎉
Same to you!
that's really slick! thanks!
You bet!
Beautifull Video !
Beautiful simple effective technique .
The man had reflexes like a cat. Legend
Thanks for info
Great video!’🥋🤙🏻😎
Amazing that this is observed from a very old clip. Still learning from the greats!
I have this entire DVD series and it's worth getting.
O-uchi gari on the supporting leg and Kimura landing on him as an added bonus... This uke must have hurt !
That IS brilliant
That’s really awesome
Badass. I'm gonna work on this in the gym
BRILLIANT
This was what i was waiting for.
Thank you so much sir.
From india🙏
Most welcome!
BEAUTIFUL!
Great counter
Love the low key hips to face smash😂
wow... pretty cool, damn
Judo - The art of throwing you to the ground. BJJ - The art of lying down and inviting you.
Great breakdown - take out the support, and their ground game gets neutralized quickly.
Este excelente Judoka marco un antes y un después dentro de esta disciplina,con el respeto que merece el creador del Judo el Gran Jigoro Kano,me gustó este este especial,saludos desde Venezuela
Brilliant throw i never would have thought of that. Got to try that this evening
did you knock someone out? that's a dangerous move, if you do it in a bjj class people will for sure be pissed.
@Ema-nuel just with my buddy who is a judo brown belt, who cross trains BJJ. just drilling it not sparring and We both do judo and BJJ so know how to fall safely. My motto in training is if you break ur training partner you should get a new one
So simple 😂 Im testing this!
He was innovative and enhanced the sport
It’s hard to say definitely. He was prize fighting for a time. In fact, the kodokan kicked him out and revoked his rank because of that. But the money for prize fights under those rules wasn’t very much. So he slid over to professional wrestling. Fortunately a few years before his death, the kodokan brought him back and promoted him to 9th Dan. Sorry this was for a different person
@@Mtripp005 This is misinformation. Kimura was and remained all his life a 7 dan. They refused to promote him. But they never revoked his rank. The person who before his death became a 9 dan was Ushijima (sensei of kimura). He was the one who started the professional Judo League and the one who asked kimura to participate.Kimura enhanced Judo 100 percent. If there is one place which is poison for judo than its the kodokan. Not for having issues with people fighting for money(this was against kanos will). But for being hypocrites and no real values.
@@simbabwe2907 I have no idea where you're getting this falsehood, but you are dead wrong. Do you actually have Kodokan rank? Ever been to the Kodokan? How much Judo have you done in your life? I stand behind everything I have said. Kano Shihan was against professional fighting, and Kimura was kicked out. Look up Gene LeBell sometime and see what happened when he got into professional wrestling. Sorry, no soup for you!
@@GospelConjurer-sc9yr That Kimura never was kicked out can easily be proven by him being Professor and Coach of Takushoku University in the 60s. He also never was 9 dan but remained 7 dan all his life. My Kodokan critic is about the Organisation not about judo as such.You just need to go the Kodokan as a foreigner. Disgusting hostel where you can life. The Senseis in the clinics speak 4th grade english.... and this is the place which is sopposed to spread judo..... i can talk more about Belt politics etc. But no interrest. Lets just say this... a Organisation were Isao Okano is 6 dan must be corrupt .
@@simbabwe2907 I noticed that you didn’t answer any of my questions, then YOU spewed more misinformation. In point of fact, I have been to the Kodokan. The Tokyo police academy as well. I actually have Kodokan rank, unlike you. I’ve been in Judo since I was five years old. I vividly remember when the Kodokan brought him back in, because that was major judo news and put out in several places. You would know that if you were a legitimate judoka. But if you’re not going to answer my questions, then this is not an adult discussion. Whining about the dorms at the Kodokan is childish at best I suspect you never were in the military and never had to live in a barracks. Warriors don’t care about that. I have no idea what you are, but I know what you are not.
Dude blocked the Guard Pull and passed with a hidden Ouchi Gari!
Surreal.
Beautifully brutal
Did Kimura had a challenge match with a Karate martial artist? Were there any matches between judoka vs Karate during or before his time?
He had a striking match with one of the Gracies
@@kieranhimself3655 Which Gracie? That was a modified Judo/jiu-jisu match.
I heard an interview that he was forced to do a vale tudo match with Waldemar Santana in Bahia. He expected a jiu jitsu match. Durinho the 59's Brazil tour a catchwrestler Fell on His leg. Só His leg was Very injured. His opinion on vale tudo was too Savage/barbarian match. But when he arrived to the stadium restroom his promoter/manager Yano told him that it was going to be a mma fight. He refused, but he told him that as per the crowd had bought the tickets for mma fight they would not allow him to leave the stadium without fighting. He Said that Waldemar was covered of oil, só Very sliopery. He couldn't work on judo. Waldenar used a Lot of old martial capoeira (kicks, punches and strong headbutts). As per the leg injured and oil, Kimura was a Easy fixed target. Kimura got punished and got so angry that he fought using basic karate technics. There is no video.
Link of Interview
czcams.com/video/1-seK9I4QbU/video.htmlsi=uM8VCU__Yw2p1bbn
I would love to see a live demonstration of this on the msts
He is passing the guard as uke pulls guard. It is a hybrid guard pass technique. It is a hybrid of the cartwheel pass and the outside knee cut pass.
Excelent
yes
So Ouchi gari on the leg they are standing on, then jumping over the legs to pass?
I do similar things when someone pulls guard - going into and through it, rather than allowing them to lock their legs onto my inside position. Getting a knee in there is probably what I find myself doing most times, which turns into a pass into scarf hold, unless they really telegraph the pull and I can just let them slam themselves by pulling away at the right time.
Did Kimura ever train with Mifune?
Interesting insight but not applicable nowadays , you can do O uchi gari correctly when your posture is not broken, against a dynamic guard pull this will get you caught into close guard for sure . the good counter is to block Uke's extended leg with the right timing in order to pass the guard .
Would like to see this done/trained at speed and then in a quasi-live environment. Likely possible, but I wonder what the probability of it is--you'd have to be pretty proficient, one would assume, to accomplish it. One detail perhaps of note: He deliberately "'makes himself skinny" affording only one possible foothold on the hip and then passing the hip through the gap rapidly. This in theory could be offset by a De la riva approach on the part of the guard puller, but it's an interesting tidbit nonetheless. Intriguing video.
Unfortunately, it wouldn't work because modern guard pullers will come in at an angle. The Uke in this video sat straight back. Also, no guard player is going to ever let you simply jump over their guard into kesa-gatame.
This video is a strawman.
Chadi has a great disdain for BJJ. You can see the under current in most of his videos.
"Disdain" might be a little strong, but yeah, would need to see it under live (resistance) conditions...
Guard pulling is a cancer on grappling and I support any technique to stop it. This is a neat version of a flyover pass, but most guard pullers actually "pull" guard, they dont jump open guard like uke did in this video. It's never how it's taught but some do jump guard and when they do, they close their guard right away and count on the mat for a soft landing. When someone decides to start on the ground instead of standing this pass could work for sure.
I do jiu-jitsu but I never willingly pull guard. I train with the mindset that I always want to remain standing while my opponent is on the ground. If I do utilize guard, it's because I was brought to the ground against my will. I also always put an emphasis on standing up where possible/regaining top position. I think if practical defense is the goal for anyone, they have to play this way instead. What do you think though?
I practice BJJ . If you're relying on the mat for a soft landing you're jumping guard incorrectly.
This dude looks like he's going for an overhead sweep.
Pulling guard is fast btw. That's how you're supposed to pull guard.
Looks awesome! Thanks for sharing this! One concern though, what if the opponent was going for a Tomoe Nage? I think in that case, this could be risky...
You’ll feel it coming, a cartwheel ride is better
I thought it's sacrifice throw. Kimura hook his leg to opponent leg to stop the momentum.
You can’t even see it; it’s so subtle and before you know it you’re in scarf
I remember somewheres on the Collier Brother's channel they have a throw that is done when someone pulls guard- like the guard puller gets lifted and returned to the mat. If I find the link I will post it here. Another neat trick.
Those guys are pretty amazing.
It seems to be important for this to work that the inner reap (I forget, ko uchi?) sweeps the support leg before the foot is firmly planted in the stomach. Once the foot plants, there is tension between he foot pushing, and the hands pulling, and a sacrifice throw (Tomoe nage) can still be finished. As a defense to a guard pull in bjj, this could work if the guy didn't just throw both feet up.
I think that was major reap, o uchi gari
I agree. This technique looks deceptively easy. It would take a ton of practice to land it in the very short window of time. That being said, I hate guard pullers, so I got to get training on this!
Watched it twice.
Hi chadi is long time I don't see you vd
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I heard he learned catch wresting as well. I believe it was the late Billy Robinson spoke about it.
Masahiko is a gigachad
Guys. This isn’t how you pull guard. No rotation, no pull, legs on the wrong side. If you’re defending against a new blue belt then I guess, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone with color on their belt pull guard like this.
So do I understand correctly that the reason he's able to pass I'd due to the shock effect, which makes the bottom player open their guard momentarily?
Is there a chance that I'd does not open?
Not shock. Zero support of the takedown. With no foundation, the Judoka passes a non existant guard now, and is free to submit the BJJ opponent.
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Pulling guard is when people do not have takedown skills, or do not feel confident to attempt a takedown on their opponent in a match or a fight.
The only good reasons for pulling guard are:
-to learn the flying triangle choke (which can be a dangerous move)
-to learn the flying armbar (which can be a dangerous move)
-to work on your guard in class when your teacher ordered you to roll starting from the kneeling position
If I was pitted against an opponent in a tournament and did not feel confident to attempt a takedown because of his superior throwing or takedown abilities, one thing I would do is squat down really low like a sumo wrestler. (Semi-dirty "trick")
Was the caucasian in that last clip legendary Canadian Douglas Rogers?
Was this Kimura that gave the name to the BJJ move 'kimura'? the move used to break Helio gracie's arm? :D
Yesh.
You won't make many friends in a BJJ class passing the guards like this. The guy doesn't land on the mat,he lands on your face.
Don't pull guard like the dude in the video. Kimura is standing tall with total mobility of his hip. First break his posture with a sleeve and lapel grip,one foot pushing the hip vigorlously,.If you control his upper body like this,it will be very difficult for him to execute the reap and if he tries to jump on you,he will fall inside your guard. So before you pull guard,break his posture and get him out of balance.
Does it Work no Gi also ?
どうもありがとうございます! Sorry, I meant to right you a thank you note in English but couldn't help it.😊
With guard pulls being so prevalent in today's so called BJJ, can we see have we seen this technique being used?
Yeah we sometimes see the flyover pass but not normally when someone poulls guard because they dont pull guard like uke in the video did. They either jump guard and close their legs right away or actually "pull" guard by breaking their opponents posture first. People dont normally pull open guard.
I would still like to see the Full 12 minite fight of Helio Gracie vs. Kimura. All the Gracies show is about a one minute
Because it exposed them...
@@IHaveTheSchwartz I agree 👍
Majora people will pull guard like that but there are some that will just jump up pop up simultaneously so there is no way to pull off that move... he is a master
Bro had a bad dream about guard pullers and tried to warn us
My favorite part is when uke flails his legs around while stuck in kesa gatame to sell it.
Kimura destroyed Helio Gracie tore his shoulder to pieces. Tossed Gracie around like a rag doll. Kimura was the best of Japans Judoka. Both in Kodokan and Kosen Judo. Also trained with Mas Obama learning Karate from his friend the Legend Otsu
"Don't fight the feeling"
BJJ pull guard is abit different since the legs will mount the body in closed guard not sure if Kimura's technique can handle it or not
Caraca dá pra usar isso pra se defender de balão no bjj
I'd be a bit scared to try this, pulling guard like that puts a lot of weight on you and I'd worry for the knee of my supporting leg.
Am I blind? From what I could see the guard puller completely failed getting his heels attached to the hip. When people pull guard on me they’re certain to connect their feet before their ass hits the mat
he is basically hitting a ouchi gari before the other guy can pull guard ?
Is this applicable in a real roll? It does not seem so to be honest
Thank you for sharing, but I'm concerned you could injure yourself if the opponent tries to jump guard while you attempt to reap the leg. Thoughts?
So a modified Ouchi gari.
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Almost nobody just "pulls guard". It almost always involves a sacrifice throw submission failure of some sort.
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i feel for the shoulder of uke
This is more of a counter to traditional lapel side tomoe nage.
Bruh, landing on a guys face like that is brutal. That’ll learn them not to pull guard on you.
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I’d take judo 🥋 over BJJ any day, but that’s just my personal preference
Has anyone actually done this in competition? Looks real easy to have your back taken.
With no-Gi and some sweat it is way more difficult I think
0:44 the floor in 9 month 🤰
I do this all the time, I remember once when the guy just jumped guard, It was awkward. We looked like an erotic novel cover.