4K Gaming & KODI Mini HTPC | Zotac EN1070 with Intel Core i7 6700T Upgrade
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Replacing the stock Intel Core i5 6400T CPU with the Intel Core i7 6700T and demonstrating performance, noise and disassembly of the Zotac EN1070.
Credit to the following Japanese blog for giving me the inspiration to attempt this CPU change.
ZOTAC ZBOX MAGNUS EN 1070 CPU was replaced with i7 6700T.
bit.ly/2fWJTDh
CPU-Z
Intel 6400T - valid.x86.fr/vz...
Intel 6700T - valid.x86.fr/qh...
3DMark Firestrike 1.1
Intel 6400T - www.3dmark.com/...
Intel 6700T - www.3dmark.com/...
3DMark Firetrike Ultra 1.1
Intel 6400T - www.3dmark.com/...
Intel 6700T - www.3dmark.com/...
3DMark TimeSpy 1.0
Intel 6400T - www.3dmark.com/...
Intel 6700T - www.3dmark.com/...
I've changed the thermal paste for the CPU and GPU on these little beasts along with some fan cleaning without having to take everything apart as you've done here and the process is very very simple.
You can keep the warranty sticker intact and the motherboard can reside in it's position without having to remove it.
To begin there are 4 smaller screws that hold the top cover down and are located in the little gaps between the motherboard and the case when looking from the bottom so you'll have to shine a torch in there to see them plus you'll have to use a thinner screwdriver to remove these.
There are 2 on each side and not in the front/back location.
Then you'll have to take the centre large chrome screw in the centre of the motherboard out (it also holds the top lid down) plus unplug the black wireless card cable as it's attached to the top lid.
Undoing the front panel makes it slightly easier as well as sometimes it has to be loosened a bit for the top lid to be lifted off much more easily.
Just undo the little black screws 4 in total 2 on each side at the front side end of the case plus the single little black screw at the top rear of the case (middle one) and the top comes off without removing the motherboard or voiding your warranty.
These little black screws are located outside of the case.
It might sound a bit tedious in explanation but believe me it's much much easier than it sounds and takes a couple of minutes.
It's a simpler process and the warranty sticker stays intact, the motherboard stays where it is, surrounding panels stay where they are, everything can be accessed/removed with ease and putting it back together is a breeze!
You've gone far and beyond with your upgrade and have done very well so I thought I'll give you an easier alternative if you were to work with these again in the future.
Anyway great informative video and keep up the good work ✌️
I wish I read this before I started the disassembly. However, I am a moron, who forgot to plug GPU fan back and I nearly fried the thing. So the second time I had to open it your method spared me some agony. Thank you.
@@griimae8022 any idea on how thick the thermal pads are? Did you replace them?
@@griimae8022 No problem as long as it helped someone 😁
We've all forgot to do something when putting things back together, after all we're human ✌️
Thank you! This was useful to help me upgrade my Zotac. I got it up and running and everything is working well. Thank you Toonz FM and Paul!
it is possible to upgrade the gpu?
I just completed the 6700T swap tonight. It’s like the system is reborn! I’m no longer CPU bottlenecked in Battlefield 1. Previously, I would see frame drops into the 20s, even with low settings at 1080P, on 64 player servers. With the 6700T I can now play at Ultra settings, 1080P at a smooth 80-100 FPS with no frame drops.
Revenant That’s awesome, glad to hear it went well and you are happy with it.
I really want to build an i7 1070 mini pc, but none of these components are available off the shelf!
Amazing what zotac have done.
So wait.... I can put a i7 6700T in this!? Holy crap, I'm loving this little box. Before getting this, I was literally considering building a rig with an i7 6700k and a GTX 1070 but needed something with a low power draw so I went with this. Knowing that I can do this makes me happy. Sure the 6700T isn't in the same league as the 6700k, especially when overclocking, but it's still a dang good CPU and it's pretty stinking close to what I wanted initially. I'll probably be doing this down the road.
I would personally put in an i7 6700TE instead for better temps. You could also disable speedstep, so the i7 6700T stays at just 2.8 GHz max.
just put an i7 6700t in my en1070, disabled turbo and adjusted fans - it now runs cooler than the stock i5! With turbo enabled it did spike to 81C briefly during some 'the division' play but mainly hovered around 75C. Thanks for the video, it's why i got the en1070 and i7.
Kenny Freeman That's awesome, I hope you are happy with it. I have everything enabled on mine and occasionally hit spike to high 70's but since that is still well inside the thermal limits of the CPU I'm happy enough for now.
Out of interest what fan profile configuration did you end up using?
I've set the fans to 45c - 70c for temps and 20% - 100% for both gpu and cpu fans. Have noticed The Division seems to be cycle hungry on all cores and tends to push temps much higher than eg. GTAV. btw from the intel spec sheets the 6700t package temp seems to be rated at 66c max (though the die max temp seems to be 100c) - have opted to disable turbo based on the 66c spec.
Kenny Freeman Thanks for the info, I had missed the Tcase value was 66C and will keep an eye on that. So far I'm happy to continue running the system as is but will bare that in mind should I encounter any issues.
Sometimes the weirdest games drive the CPU temps up. FIFA 17 is a prime example for me.
An interesting article on CPU temp and Tcase temps. www.overclock.net/t/973756/clarification-tcase-max-and-core-temps-dts
Very cool! Is it hard to replace/upgrade a CPU? Thanks
Is it possible to swap the MXM nvidia gtx 1070 with a newer one in the future?
I know it is a bit late, but i have upgraded my zotac magnus 1060EN CPU.
i5-6400T -> i5-6600T
I tried to find the i7 you used in the video but i could not find it anymore, so i chose this faster i5.
I followed your steps and it went great. Thanks!!
I had to source my last EN1060 upgrade CPU from eBay. If you have updated to a newer Zotac BIOS, you can put in a Kaby Lake T-series CPU, up to the i7-7700T. That said, your i5-6600T is good for +500-700 mhz over the i5-6400T, which is quite noticeable. Good job.
@@MattPritchardOfficial I will change my EN1060 i5 7500T to a i7 6700T, in a few days - i hope i didn't get temp problems
@@moorgogel - Just use good thermal material (like Noctua NT-H1) and take your time and you should be fine.
Also remember to go into the BIOS after the swap and reset the system to optimized defaults - otherwise it will still have some clock limits for the previous CPU. I am a community mod in the red it Zotac forum where you can ask for help if needed. Good luck with the upgrade.
@@MattPritchardOfficial thanks for your answer, that was very helpful! I didn't know the forum, i will take a look
it works! took me a bit of time, but now the i7 is running in my EN1060 :)
you've done pretty good here as i have the base model without your upgrade and i get over 160 watt power draws at the wall after a couple of hours of casual 1080 gaming and then the unit would shut down randomly on occasions which is really irritating as I'm not even pushing the thing and it's cold weather out.
now it's starting to do it more often than not.
now i wonder why the new 1070k kaby lake version has the 230 watt adapter as zotac must be aware of this issue and contacting them they just answer back with the power supply sounds fine look elsewhere for issues.
what kind of response is that?
do they not know that power supplies are not 100% efficient i mean reaching those wattages is very concerning but now I'm getting random shut downs until by the looks of it will shut down for good!
sorry bout that but it seems like zotac don't really care of the issue but it's all fine when you pay a small fortune for the thing.
good informative video by the way!
Its been 2 years but maybe you still want to hear it. I have the Kaby Lake Version and I am also suffering from sudden powerouttages. Seems like the 230 watt adapter overheats and then you get the problems. I monitored everything and came to conclusion, that the GPU gets 0 Volt for 2 seconds (while frozen) and then the sudden restart happens. The new versions from the EN2080K uses a 330 watt adapter, but support says they aren't compatible with the old en1070k...:(
@@Schiemanskie Been a long time and I got rid of the thing but I think they realised the units require more power than once thought.
They get a little too hot for my taste too with little usage.
Good little product but their support really put me off.
Makes sense to use the 330 watt adaptor plus they have much better cooling on the new mini PC's so it should help with things ✌️
Thanks for the guide man! Currently running an I5-7500T and I'm upgrading to an I7-7700T, I really want to cool the CPU separately from the GPU if you have any ideas but thanks for helping out where you can!
A great breakdown. What a brilliant little PC! A true jack of all trades. 👍😁
Thanks. I pretty happy with it overall.
So it is easy in a way to replace the processor because i have been thinking of getting the Zotac EN1060 instead but replacing the 6400T to the 7500T since the base clock on it is at 2.70 GHz turbo's to 3.30GHz which for me i would mainly play my games at 1080p still and also find that having a smaller system would give me a lot more desk space (well that and the fact i could bring it to my friends place for fighting games and such).
Ecks™ The problem is whether the bios supports the Kaby Lake CPU's. It might required a modified bios as it's unlikely that Zotac would offer any support. If you do go ahead I'd be interested to know how you get on.
i would love to see if the 7700T Kaby Lake is supported
So would i. I think it is supported, because it uses the same socket, arquiteture and tdp. Would be really cool to see how it peforms over the I5-6400T.
naznaz86 probably would but would be risky as it has a higher clock speed than this model here and this is pushing the boundaries as it is with thermals and power draw at the wall as it is even though one could step down the multipliers a tad but then what's the use.
interesting though is they released a bios update that have the same id for this unit and the new kabylake en1070k 7500t but that has a 230 watt power supply compared to this 180 watt one
Would it be possible to install either an i7-6700T or a 7700T on a Zotac SN970? It has a very similar overall design to this computer and it also uses the i5-6400T.
no way to downvolt .... 1.18V is way too high for skylake. They do that only so that it always run stable out of factory. But usually it can have an offset of -0.18V
Hi, I was enthusiastic about your work. And I bought a Zbox en1060. And For this the i7 6700t. When opening the zbox everything ran well until I came to the Fans .In your video, you do not show how to get the fan sensibly and also not the CPU fan is screwed from below. Or you have to pay attention to the WLAN antenna. The antenna is demolished and I have soldered it again . With a lot of patience and try and error I have done everything. If you already have such an elaborate tutorial then please show us all the steps and not just the simple part.
it's 2 years too late for this answer, but here is a good tut :D
translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=blog.livedoor.jp/wisteriear/archives/1061669565.html
did your zotac still ran well?
upgrade starts at 1:20:30
FYI, with the new bios (I am using April one), you can install a Kaby Lake CPU. I just put an i5-7600T into my en1070. I initially tried an i7-6700T but was defective and had to return to eBay seller so I picked up a new i5-7600T from Amazon. The i5-7600T is fast but hot. Running TimeSpy and FireStrike getting peak temps of 88. The 3DMark scores were about the same as reported with the i7-6700T.
Nice one, thanks for the update. How are you finding the performance and temps?
Performance is good but it runs very hot. It was peaking at 90 when running VR games. I am going to try turning off turbo to see how much that helps with temps.
Wow that is hot. Is that benchmarking the CPU? What thermal paste are you using?
Noctua NT-H1paste...works well in my other builds. I even took the en1070 apart again to try repasting but no diff in temps. The high temps were playing Project Cars with HTC Vive headset and G-29 wheel so USB ports and two HDMI ports were in use. I wanted to get a faster CPU to see if VR games ran a bit better but with those temps may need to put the i5-6400T back in.
I wonder if the majority of the heat is coming from the GPU then having to render Project Cars in VR and this is spilling over to the CPU on the copper heatsink.
What if you delid a 7700 none T or a 7700k, add some liquid ultra and put it in. Would it work? How would the temps be?
Hey Paul:) i've 2 questions. 1) what is the chipset of the board and is kaby lake supported (i5-7700T)? 2) is it possible to swap 1070 with 1080 mxm card?
Erman Can Yelekçi Unlikely to support Kaby as doubt Zotac will update the bios to support the chip given that to upgrade it breaks the warranty.
It may be possible to swap the MXM cards but heat would again be the issue.
You think an upgrade to i7-7700t be similar but better results?
Yep the 7700t is fine and the Max this machine will handle
Super awesome video!
Did you had temerature problems
this looks cool but these things don't last very long and fail and good luck getting your unit repaired even within your warranty period.
zotac has pathetic customer service but this build looks cool but the customer voided the warranty anyway lol but I'd suggest to go with a company that stands by their brand and not leave you out of pocket and a useless brick
Ko Dee nope they don't hence the name SOCRAP but the enthusiast in this vid should be the one who puts em together as he's done a good job.
even with the warranty sticker SOCRAP don't want to know your problems so trust me stay away
Ko Dee Still working!!! 😂
@@diddler1979 have there been any other newer possible upgrades? I still have the i5 7500T, with 32gb ddr, soon a samsung black sn850 1tb and want to see what else i can upgrade, any ideas?
thanks for the video, great stuff .. im considering getting a zotac magnus system or a similar mini itx build (currently considering this and the msi trident 3 but seeing how zotac has a bit more graphical firepower and, apparently, even some upgradeability to it, it might be a bit ahead in the race).
im looking for something portable and still upgradeable in the long run; wouldnt want to be stuck with what is essentially a horribly over-priced console..
if you were to build a custom mini itx pc yourself, how low do you think you could get weight to be? is under 5kg possible?
Hi Paul, I really liked your review about this pc. The question is:is it worth buying or should I buy Alienware alpha r2 with a graphics amplifier
Thank you. I wanted the most powerful and easily portable system possible today that functioned of a single power supply and nothing touches this in my opinion. Instead of relying on an external graphics solution I would just build a miniPC with something like the Fractal Design Node case with an even better CPU than what the Zotac or Alienware could offer.
Do you think this same upgrade would be possible with the ZBOX SN970? They have the same CPU after all.
sure
Warranty, what you could do to still have a warranty if you break the seal is purchase a separate desktop insurance like (amazon, square-trade these pricks are expensive) they will honor your parts as long as you show that you get the insurance within 30days of purchase of the hardware and so on. Im not trying to sell these but if your worried about the manufacturer being a d1kbag about there warranty (which usually means they rather you spend another 1200 or 1400 bucks on next years unit).
Greetings Paul! Can you please add the name of the thermal paste you used in your description? Or as a reply? Thanks!
Hi Emanuel, I have been using Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.
I know this vids a year old but... I got this ZBOX EN31050 and was wondering if I could upgrade it to an I7 6700T and a 1060 or 1070mini?
Hi Paul ,do you know if the motherboard is replaceable and where I could get one in the UK? I've damaged my product and it's out of warranty. Please help, thanks.
Is there a reason why you're not recording this properly with software or an hdmi passthrough device?
Do you know if the en1060 can support 2400mhz ram with a kaby lake 7600t cpu? Is the memory speed locked or is it possible to flash an en1060 with en1060k bios to unlock 2400mhz?
The ram automatically clocked to 2400mhz. The 7600t ramps up to 77c by adjusting fan curves. Have you ever removed the top and bottom panel dust filters? I am wondering if it would make any temp differences.
would I be able to put the 7700T into the Zbox Magnus en1070?
Elo reemer It's unlikely without a bios update from Zotac and given changing the CPU breaks the warranty it's probably not a priority for them.
Elo reemer couldn't you do a bios hack to get it to upgrade to the 7700T Kaby Lake. Seen Zotac are upgrading these machines but still only i5
So all my previous temperatures with the i5-7600T were wrong. I must have been using an old version of HWMonitor or something. Anyway uninstalled and reinstalled CPUIDs HWMonitor and I also installed HWInfo64 to compare. Currently I am getting high temps of 73/75 at 3.5Ghz on all cores (temps are off by 2 degrees depending on app). Since I think 80 degrees is supposed to be max, the temps are still on the high side so I will still repaste when I get the Kryonaut this weekend. And highest pull from AC adapter I've seen is 142 Watts.
Teresa Selling That's pretty good. I have the same usually with the four cores and eight threads of the 6700T. The theoretical limit is 90c so you are well inside that. Also, check out OpenHardwareMonitor as a free alternative to stats monitoring.
I left project cars running in steamvr for over an hour and temps crept up to 77/78. The temps are showing up in red in HWINFO64 since it says 80 is max. OpenHardwareMonitor isn't working with the i5-7600T. The temps are not showing. I like HWINFO64 the best of the monitoring software I have tried.
So the Kryonaut paste arrived. The smallest tube of thermal paste I have ever purchased. Anyway repasted and temps only decreased by maybe 2 degrees. So pretty disappointed by the paste. I just used the NT-H1 paste for the gpu since its highs are about 65 degrees C. But seeing a high of 76 degrees C on the CPU cores.
Teresa Selling I took the 6700T out earlier and delidded it. Cleaned everything up and used Grizzly Conductonaut liquid metal on the CPU and GPU. It dropped the CPU temps down 10-12 degrees. The GPU temps stayed consistent with the Kryonaut. m.imgur.com/a/VPSNo
That's a nice drop in temps, but I really don't want to try delidding the cpu so I think I will keep mine as is.
I'm about to get this for my build abit wonder if it can get like 90% same level as the 6700/6700k ? I will use it with 1080ti at 1920x1080 144,hz set up
very good video thx.
Question? i tried the same with i7 7700t on the en1070k. with the 6700t wich temperature you have for CPU in normal use. for me it is usually between 55_60°C on normal desktop use, and going up to 70-80°C on Benchmark test unigine or video games. do you have about the same readings? wich are your bios settings? thanks
Sébastien Sainte-Marie I opened two holes on the top of the chassis just above the CPU and GPU fans as the tightness of the chassis was starving the fans of airflow. Also I disabled the CPU turbo mode but kept all of the threads active. Having an eight thread CPU sticking to 2.8Ghz hit the sweet spot for gaming performance whilst maintaining a gaming temp of between 55 and 65 degrees. Activating the turbo mode would shoot the temps up to the 80’s without a major increase in gaming performance.
Paul LastLevelTech Thanks! could i ask you pictures of the holes? Havn’t seen them on your video. Thx for the bios tip!
Sébastien Sainte-Marie Here is a pic. I rushed it a little when doing it so didn’t get the offset done great but it does the job when sat in the cabinet under the TV. m.imgur.com/a/UUP62
No worries on the bios tips. Hopefully it gives you years of good service.
Paul LastLevelTech thanks a lot!
Paul LastLevelTech I have the EN1060K version. Would you recommend cpu upgrade to i7-7700t? The gpu I have would hopefully produce less heat than 1070. Do you have turbo boost disabled? Did you cut holes in your case for better air flow? Would love to hear from you.
Do you think it would be possible to install a i7-6700 non-T? Where did you buy your i7-6700t. Having trouble finding them. I saw some people installed a i7-6700 in the Alienware Alpha R2, and it just downclocked/undervolted it.
IronPudge I bought my 6700T off Ebay but you are right they are difficult to find.
You'd have to be carefully with the 6700 seen as it's a 65w TPD part compared to the 35w TDP of the 6400T & 6700T. Make sure you strike the balance of the undervolt, temperature and performance as don't forget the CPU and GPU heat sinks in the Zotac share a common heat pipe.
Anyone have considered the idea of using this zbox as a portable video editing machine? Could it be a good option (maybe upgraded with a 7700T)?
Lorenzo Vannucci you can put the 7700t in there with the latest bios but editing really tries the pc and it's the temps that would be the problem here but it would be a great mini editing rig with 32gb ddr4 ram, a samsung 960 pro and even better if your software can utilise the nvidias cuda cores
Hey I added this processor but on my bios it says the clock speed is at 2800MHZ
Thats correct. ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/88200/intel-core-i7-6700t-processor-8m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz.html
Anyone using a more recent bios than Nov 2016? there is one for March and April 2017. Was wondering if the i7-i6700t still works with the newer bios or if should stick with Nov 2016 if we want to upgrade cpu.
Teresa Selling Hello, I updated to the latest bios yesterday and it worked fine with the 6700T. When I first turned it back on it took a while to sort everything out and boot but after a minute or two it booted just fine.
ok, thanks!
my pc with the same specs and playing games triple A titles te temperatures dont climb to much about 25C idle.... 45 50 stressing the cpu
Vitor Hugo No doubt but is it in such a compact portable form factor running off a 180w PSU?
So it's pretty much ok to change the cpu? Is there a bios in your way or does it recognize it and carry on? also is it worth it? im asking this because I am thinking of buying one of these later down the road and want to see how degradable it is (i don't mind the gpu 8gb goes a long ways) if you stated it before sorry im just skimming through the video so seeif it was possible...
Silver Arrow Hi, yes it is a simple socket swap of the CPU and then the bios picks up the change automatically. I've been using it on a 1080p TV in the living room and it's been perfect. Sat through a lot of Watch_Dogs 2 without issue.
Paul LastLevelTech thanks I was worried because I thought that the stuff behind the warranty void would only be used to the cpu even though you can get to it
Hello, could you see how many fps you get in Overwatch? My stock EN1070 is being bottlenecked by the processor and can't push 144fps for my monitor, no matter what graphics settings I set.
+Iron Pudge Afraid I don't play Overwatch. Sorry.
I can't see the i7 6700t for sale anywhere. I'm gonna guess it's a specialized CPU that can't easily be bought?
So my question is, could I install a regular i7 6700 in it instead? Or hell, even something like an i5 6600?
The Dead Immortal I'm afraid not. They are 65w parts that would get way to hot for the cooling solution to cater for.
I did, but I had to delid the CPU. But the motherboard limits the max wattage to 40w. So I could only get my 6700(non-k and non-T) to max out at 3.7ghz. so it's better than the t varriants. Temps are in the mid to high 70's when I cut a hole in to top of the chassis to allow fresh air (like OP did in his later video)
can it be replaced with normal i7 6700 or even 6700k?
Hi! Upgrade gpu to wx7100mxm is possible?
does throttlestop work for undervolting?
Hi How much Cost The i7 6700t That You buy in eBay ?
dirt rally game , why jus the gpu speed 1300 mhz?
So the new bios for the en1070 seems to have upgraded the bluetooth to 4.2. Isn't that the only real change for the en1070k other than 7th gen CPU and 230w power supply? And the last 2 bios updates for the en1070 seem to have the same changes as the en1070k. Just wondering if the new bios might allow for 7th gen CPU.
Teresa Selling Funny, I was running CloneZilla on my EN1070 yesterday and noticed that it picked up the system as an EN1070/EN1070K after I updated to the latest bios. I would probably say it would support the Kaby Lake CPU's but I would be only guessing.
Teresa Selling look at these pics with the bottom cover off the en1070k here www.onlineshopcomputer.com/product/zotac-zbox-en1070k-u-magnus-gaming-mini-pc-intel-kaby-lake-core-i5-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-vr-ready-barebone/
it seems they added a couple of riser boards on the m.2 slot and underneath the cpu bracket with the addition of a cooling fan.
it seems they are aware these systems can get very hot but what that little fan can do is beyond me.
better to drill out some plastic with a bit of style and finesse of course from the bottom cover and place some grill type mesh on there and have a mini laptop cooling pad pull air out of the bottom case and blow it out the back.
will definitely help lower those hd temps and most likely the mb, ram, cpu as well.
zotac have stated they have changed the cpu fan as well and it's possible to place the i7 7700t in the k and non k version with the latest bios updates but one would void the warranty lol
Wow a 3rd fan... maybe that's why they upgraded the power supply too. Would be interesting to find out the temps a stock en1070K runs under full load.
I've been playing around with mine a bit more and noticed something odd. Even when power is off and the power plugged in there is 5v still going to all of the USB ports and also the heat sinks are warm too. Only when I pull the power out completely from the unit do they cool off completely.
I noticed it before I opened the case that there appeared to be a small amount of heat on the top of the chassis even when left off for hours.
Paul LastLevelTech it only blows air on the ssd area but still has that tiny space between the board and the bottom cover.
could've went with a slightly larger bottom cover though.
apparently they changed the cpu fan as well but that little fan won't draw much at all to warrant the bigger supply but the kaby lakes seem to run a bit warmer and use slighter more juice than the skylake so a little head room won't hurt plus they can be used with these units as well.
they can add fans but the small area inside these units doesn't help.
some more ventilation, below the unit and maybe some subtle inlet vents above the cpu and gpu area would help but raising the top cover and bottom cover bout 10mm with larger inlet vents will still make this unit a compact sff while improving temps and most importantly longevity.
yeah Paul these things get very hot and balmy to touch even with HD streaming and with a couple of hours gaming they take a while to cool down.
they need to improve the ventilation and cooling that's for sure but i guess that's why they have the en1080 if you want more performance and cooling but the size is the trade off
dude.. need to see gpu usage??? without that we can't see if the cpu upgrade really made a change as a bottleneck!
will a 6700 work or even a 6700k? Also wonder if the BIOS could be modded to take advantage of the 6700k's oc ability?
Christopher Ryan The 6700 and 6700K are more than the 35w TDP of the 6400T and 6700T so would output way to much heat for this cooling solution to cope with.
Paul LastLevelTech If a 6700T would output way too much heat for the cooling solution then why did you upgrade from a 6400t to a 6700t?
Also any updates? How has this been long term? How is the reliability?
check the difference between the K and T.
I did, but I had to delid the CPU. But the motherboard limits the max wattage to 40w. So I could only get my 6700(non-k and non-T) to max out at 3.7ghz. so it's better than the t varriants. Temps are in the mid to high 70's when I cut a hole in to top of the chassis to allow fresh air (like OP did in his later video)
IMHO it's not worth it. anything specific you couldn't do with the i5 6400T ?
I wouldn't break the warranty and possible wear down the rig faster.
Arda Karaduman Absolutely a fair point and certainly wouldn't recommend this for everyone. Only really for the enthusiastic nut cases like myself. 😀
Should I do this?
Emerged Birch Only you can really answer that I'm afraid. I put in about 35 hours of Watch Dogs 2 over the holidays without issue on mine so very happy with the upgrade.
Hi. I'm about to buy a pre owned ZBOX EN1070K mini pc unit. It comes all naked, without cpu and gpu.
I want to know if I'm able to run it using only the original CPU (core i7 7700t), as I don't want to spend more money with the original gtx 1070 mxm graphics card.
Anyone tried?
Victor, You must have a GPU on this unit for it work, it can't output the built in iGPU (intel HD 630 etc) as they aren't hooked up to the ports, and getting a MXM GPU that will work correctly (correct BIOS, etc) may be difficult and very expensive.
Right now Zotac is closing out the EN1060-i3 model on their store (go to their website) for $499 w/ free shipping and no tax outside of CA, It comes with 8GB RAM and 2c/4t 3.2Ghz CPU. If you just need a portable unit, purchase a cheap 250-500GB SSD and you are complete except for OS for well under $600, or use it as as a starting point for a CPU upgrade mod. You can upgrade it to 16GB RAM for under $50 also.
@@MattPritchardOfficial Thanks for the response. Im not in US, but thanks anyway for the tip. I decided to go with a regular mini itx build, so I can postpone the GPU unit order.
@@victor.boechat Sounds good. Just didn't want you getting stuck with a lemon. Lots of good ITX options out there.
@@MattPritchardOfficial Yes, you did just it! I was very close to buy a pre-owned EN1070K (motherboard and case only). I got no response from Zotac Support and Reddit Forums. Thanks again!
is it possible to replace the en1060 models i5 6400 with an i7 4790?
No way. Despite the fact it is from a different generation, it is an 84w TDP part and would just over heat inside this case.
Paul LastLevelTech allright, thanks for the reply!
No worries.
Is itworth changing the cpu in this build? And isnt it getting overheated?
NykerC Depends on your outlook on breaking your warranty. Personally I'm happy with the performance increase and because I use 1080p60 with Vsync on the temps are usually kept within an acceptable heat to noise fan ratio. I played through hours of Watch_Dogs 2 without issue but have noticed some games that seem to hit the CPU harder, like FIFA 17 weirdly, so the fan can be a bit louder.
Thanks for the reply so the heat wouldnt be a big deal then i guess. I would like to buy one to play some Minecraft, Diablo 3, League of Legends, Dota 2 etc, would be enough with the given i5 i think but an i7 seems to be better for future upgrades... and which other processor would you recommend (for some budget)?
NykerC my mates system was still under warranty and SOCRAP will not honour the warranty and the unit doesn't start up at all anymore and has only had ram and a hard drive installed.
hasn't been opened like in this vid and the sticker is intact so the owner did good here and to think i was about to get one of these.
definitely not now that's for sure but if you do don't say i didn't warn yah
thanks for your advice i really appreciate it :)
Coffee lake?
Vs n100/n200? But, yeah, 8-9 years old gtx1070 *****s all that crappy igpus, even most powerful amd 680 7840 and so...
Much better! That's why I wouldn't trade my EN1070 for any other current Mini PC with APU. Especially since I upgraded CPU to the 7700t. APU's CPUs improved a lot, but the GPUs, despite having improved significantly, are not at the same level.
haha forget about warranties my friends unit shut down and never started again and zotac doesn't want to know about it and the unit has never been apart only to install the ram and hard drive.
i was actually interested in the en1070k but hell no not with this company I'm going with the new asus with the full 1080 card and 7700.
their warranty is bogus so you did good here but these units are priced ridiculously and forget about warranty claims.
they definitely should be called SOCRAP lol
And the unit has never been apart? what are we looking at?
An en1060 and it would become a hot box within a couple of hours game play.
Never been apart meaning only to install ram and ssd and not like this vid where it's a teardown, voiding warranty and my friends only saw a few months use.
Socrap won't honour their so called warranty.
Warranty sticker intact but a bogus warranty at that.
That's what we're talking about.
Buy one if you like but better spend the 20 dollars on a toaster at least it does it's job
What's the model number on that Asus with full 1080 card and i7?
fan high temp is 90? why to high. 60 C batter.
i7 7700,1070 geforce ,16GB ddr4 3000
You did that upgrade?
Can I install 32 gb ram?
What for, no game would ever use that much ram, and I definitely would not recommend video editing on this
@@fewik8567 why not, i edit on mine.
not bad , you can change CPU . and memory not bad. Very good price, becuse the gamer laptop gtx 1070 3000 dollar price but this just 1500 dollar. www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16856173138
Too long
Lol, thanks.