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  • Until recently a planet-wide state of quarantine seemed almost unimaginable, but in the future could entire planets be quarantined from the rest of space, and what dreadful causes could necessitate such measures?
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    Quarantined Planets
    Episode 433a; February 11, 2024
    Produced, Written & Narrated by: Isaac Arthur
    Graphics:
    Apogii.uk
    Darth Biomech
    Jeremy Jozwik
    Ken York
    Real Courte
    Music Courtesy of
    Epidemic Sound epidemicsound.c...
    Stellardrone, "Ultra Deep Field", "Red Giant"
    Sergey Cheremisinov, "Labyrinth", "Forgotten Stars"
    Taras Harkavyi, "Alpha and ..."
    Miguel Johnson, "So Many Stars"

Komentáře • 329

  • @janomacko5764
    @janomacko5764 Před 6 měsíci +70

    Gee, I wonder what it would be like to live on a planet you can't leave.

    • @arcadiaberger9204
      @arcadiaberger9204 Před 6 měsíci +5

      "I wouldn't know." [said with a John Wayne sneer.]

    • @smittyjohnson9554
      @smittyjohnson9554 Před 6 měsíci +5

      It sucks, life would be much more interesting and inspiring if humans were on multiple worlds.

    • @rickwrites2612
      @rickwrites2612 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@smittyjohnson9554 assuming we could move between them, yea

    • @thepsion5
      @thepsion5 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Ugh, THE WORST

    • @georgekessler390
      @georgekessler390 Před 5 měsíci

      Lmao smartass

  • @oliverlaw02
    @oliverlaw02 Před 6 měsíci +86

    Ripley had the right idea when she said, "I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

    • @arcadiaberger9204
      @arcadiaberger9204 Před 6 měsíci +13

      One of the most quotable lines ever.

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Před 6 měsíci +8

      meanwhile the miles of egg tunnels she didn't know about survive unharmed.

    • @VainerCactus0
      @VainerCactus0 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@kingmasterlordIf that fusion reactor exploded it would have killed the eggs. Even if it didn't, at least there is no tech they could use to escape anymore.

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@VainerCactus0 no I'm saying that hypothetically those things could have tunneled miles deep and no one would know. with that birthing rate the hive definitely needed more than one egg chamber

    • @VainerCactus0
      @VainerCactus0 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@kingmasterlord That is true, I never thought of that. Nuking the base to destroy any technology is still a good idea imo. I don't know what you could do about any deeply buried enemies.

  • @barryon8706
    @barryon8706 Před 6 měsíci +83

    They sabotaged Arecibo to prevent our one recourse: filing an injunction with Alpha Centauri.

    • @seriousmaran9414
      @seriousmaran9414 Před 6 měsíci +1

      And I thought it was to stop NASA listening in to their TV soaps for free...😂😂

    • @AnimeSunglasses
      @AnimeSunglasses Před 6 měsíci

      ...look, I'm just glad it's not at Barnard's Star, that would... Not be a great omen, y'know?
      Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go make sure there aren't any filing cabinets with signs saying "beware of the leopard"

    • @michaelpettersson4919
      @michaelpettersson4919 Před 6 měsíci

      And they did it by persuade people to cut maintenance founds.

    • @linz8291
      @linz8291 Před 4 měsíci

      Alpha Centauri is our candidate constellation to terraformed settlements. But we still need more neighboring extroplanets to launch some space projects.

  • @David9660523
    @David9660523 Před 6 měsíci +56

    Man. As someone attempting to write a sci-fi novel, this channel has been BY FAR the most invaluable resource on the planet. It has changed and modified my story in ways I could not have imagined.
    Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the work you put into these videos. Keep it up 👍

    • @NatrajChaturvedi
      @NatrajChaturvedi Před 6 měsíci +5

      Yeah this guy goes DEEP into sci fi topics like literally no one else atleast none that I have seen on CZcams.

    • @Grinningfartking6969
      @Grinningfartking6969 Před 6 měsíci

      Just read a codex from 40k and you will have the same energy. You clearly haven't done much research into science fiction

    • @David9660523
      @David9660523 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Grinningfartking6969 You would be correct. I've only read about 90 sci-fi novels in the short time I've been reading. I need more.
      In my comment, I praised Isaac's presentation of the 'science' rather than the 'fiction' aspects of futuristic speculation. I can read a thousand SF novels and only get a fraction of the science properly explained as it is on his channel. Praise where praise is due.

  • @johnniewoodard648
    @johnniewoodard648 Před 6 měsíci +95

    "...this isn't a space opera, so we don't have to assume villains doing evil things for the sake of twirling their mustaches..."
    Hey, I like twirling my mustache.

    • @hemidas
      @hemidas Před 6 měsíci +12

      Some people just want to see the world burn

    • @carno.5911
      @carno.5911 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@hemidas As long as the fire don't ignites there mustache.

    • @ThirtytwoJ
      @ThirtytwoJ Před 6 měsíci +1

      My ex uses wax to remove the mustache.

    • @carno.5911
      @carno.5911 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ThirtytwoJ Good that it is your ex then. All mustache oweners shall give such specimen a cost-free swimming course in the shark-tank muahaah

    • @Pyxis10
      @Pyxis10 Před 6 měsíci

      So you ARE a villain!

  • @Mythilt
    @Mythilt Před 6 měsíci +16

    One of the short stories I started writing back in college had as part of the premise that all new colonies on worlds with an existing biology would have a minimum of a 75 year quarantine. Colonists could arrive and land would be cheap, but almost all travel off world would be prohibited for 75 years as a buffer against an unknown disease / contagion getting off the planet before it was fully studied.

  • @strife9878
    @strife9878 Před 6 měsíci +56

    Could you do a take on the mass relays ? Always loved the concept of bridges being left around inactive

    • @isaacarthurSFIA
      @isaacarthurSFIA  Před 6 měsíci +42

      Stargate episode late April, though no discussion of inactive ones, might be a fun one to do

    • @TheArtofFugue
      @TheArtofFugue Před 6 měsíci +5

      I believe there’s already one.

  • @seanhewitt603
    @seanhewitt603 Před 6 měsíci +22

    I just began to understand Herberts use of the worms and spice as a mcguffin. It represents a world changing invention or discovery that reshapes human society and even causes evolutionary pressures to be exacerbated, much the same way the disovery of the properties inherent in crude oil, and how the pursuit of the resource can be both bane and boon to mankind, the sword of damocles (?).

  • @Azilythe
    @Azilythe Před 6 měsíci +33

    Cognito hazard has breached containment, planetary quarantine in effect.

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 Před 6 měsíci +40

    A most informative look at another popular sci-fi topic and trope. Good work as always Isaac.

    • @post_singularity
      @post_singularity Před 6 měsíci +2

      You must be his biggest fan. I have been watching him for years and I always see your comments lol

    • @cannonfodder4376
      @cannonfodder4376 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @post_singularity Gotta show support for the algorithm and its nice to get the hearts too.

  • @beskamir5977
    @beskamir5977 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I'm surprised subnautica wasn't mentioned when talking about pathogens. The Architects had a biolab on 4546B where they were trying to find a cure for Kharaa and one of them messed up badly enough that the bacterium got out and the entire place had to be locked down under quarantine.

  • @xyreniaofcthrayn1195
    @xyreniaofcthrayn1195 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Containment barrier 1: District and sector the planet.
    Containment barrier 2: Orbital ring dependency.
    Containment barrier 3: Shield array around planetary system.
    Containment barrier 4: System wide area of denial.
    Last ditch effort barrier 001: One way ticket to new nebula or black hole purge.
    Deep space stations: Every door is an airlock, built in sectors and wards easy to purge the quarantined viruses and detain undesirables.

  • @johndoe7270
    @johndoe7270 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Nursing a dog with cancer at the end of his life. Your voice is a pleasant distraction from the hell I am currently in.

  • @dariustiapula
    @dariustiapula Před 6 měsíci +20

    "Its an ugly planet. A bug planet"
    - Unknown Soldier

  • @erichtomanek4739
    @erichtomanek4739 Před 6 měsíci +11

    On AquaTerra, we quarantine primatives from the bulk of humanity. The two most famous are the Uncontacted Tribes of the deep Amazon Rainforest and the natives of North Sentinel Island.
    An example of self quarantine is North Korea.

    • @dansmith16
      @dansmith16 Před 6 měsíci

      North Korea didn't have any outbreaks.

  • @shadow4002
    @shadow4002 Před 6 měsíci +11

    The plot of Symphogear is a quarantine scenario as well. Containment of a memetic/information contagion

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Před 6 měsíci +3

      aka human cognition. imagine that's why the psychopaths are losing, we adapted immunity.

    • @sonwig5186
      @sonwig5186 Před 6 měsíci

      Wait what the fuck I must have completely missed that. I thought the plot of it was like old mesopotamian gods coming back and alchemy or something.

    • @shadow4002
      @shadow4002 Před 6 měsíci

      @@sonwig5186 go to the last season, the purpose of the tower of Babel was to prevent the emergence of a god who wrote themselves into the DNA of humanity. The moment humanity is able to come together as one, it would be like the processors of a supercomputer synchronizing and coming online

  • @topogigio7031
    @topogigio7031 Před 6 měsíci +8

    What great timing, I've just started another stay at Planet 4546b

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Před 6 měsíci +5

      **booboop** _oxygen_

    • @marcelgrabowski5939
      @marcelgrabowski5939 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Huh, considering this debt survivor have, he may as well turn back and re-enact quarantine 😂

  • @lancerhalsey4816
    @lancerhalsey4816 Před 6 měsíci +173

    ""Oh no it caught the Human!'"

    • @seanhewitt603
      @seanhewitt603 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Because monkeypox was already taken...😮

    • @scurvydog20
      @scurvydog20 Před 6 měsíci +13

      @@seanhewitt603 I'm still concerned how the dog and child got it

    • @MR-vi9lm
      @MR-vi9lm Před 6 měsíci +5

      It's called cooties 😆 🤣

    • @seriousmaran9414
      @seriousmaran9414 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Aliens fly flag at half mast after finding Earth has caught humans... 😢

    • @SickPrid3
      @SickPrid3 Před 6 měsíci

      @@MR-vi9lm coochies ? 😐

  • @Zarcondeegrissom
    @Zarcondeegrissom Před 6 měsíci +5

    13:20 "chip everyone", wasn't that part of the backdrop to an old game called Syndicate Wars. fun game with cool human augmentations, however, it's so old the graphics would be shunned today. I would so love to get a replacement back for my aging one, oh well, lol.

    • @gabrote42
      @gabrote42 Před 6 měsíci

      A spiritual successor exists, I think it was called Satellite Reign. It's not as deep but much better looking. There was another but i never played it.

  • @zyfigamer
    @zyfigamer Před 6 měsíci +18

    That AI generated office at the beginning is a good example of "worse the longer you look at it"

    • @owenbelezos8369
      @owenbelezos8369 Před 6 měsíci +2

      even then just the illusion of it looking good is amazing, and it makes it easier for artists because they'd only have to clean up the image, rather than create the whole thing.
      but that'll only happen under anarchism:
      czcams.com/video/sMoTWFZjoYA/video.html

    • @WaterPickle
      @WaterPickle Před 6 měsíci

      😂

    • @rRekko
      @rRekko Před 6 měsíci

      @@owenbelezos8369 i hate this 2 sides take. Nothing is stopping artists to keep drawing and rendering stuff by themselves. Being an artists turned into a profession very recently and now every artist feels threathened because their self imposed livelihood is on the line, despite being told over and over being an artist shouldn't be your career path because of how unstable it is.
      Hot take, freelance/comission drawing and rendering should've stayed a hobby. Art is fed by passion, but passion fades when your life depends on that one hobby you turned into a job. Right now we have a massively saturated market in this category and these people living off of donations fearing for their livelihood are the ones pushing the hardest against AI art, claiming it will kill creativity and will remove our "biggest purpose in life", they should maybe return to religion if they really need a purpose.
      Anyways, nothing stops artists from continuing their hobby. Despite automation there are plenty of woodworkers with passion for their craft, and they even sell their stuff for a very good price thanks to their honed skills and the fact that everything else lacks personality because it is mass produced. AI art is here to stay.

    • @just_a_rock
      @just_a_rock Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@owenbelezos8369 "cleaning up" an existing image is much harder than making one that just doesn't have any mistakes in it. That's why commercial photography & drawing are such different fields. In commercial photography you spend days processing tiny details of images in editing software. In drawing you make a sketch in an hour & spend the next three hours coloring & shading it. Cleaning images is much more time consuming than making them.

    • @zyfigamer
      @zyfigamer Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@owenbelezos8369 learn better advertising methods. don't just point people to an essay. anyone who'd go through that is already convinced capitalism stinks.

  • @erichtomanek4739
    @erichtomanek4739 Před 6 měsíci +6

    In relation to pocket universes for quarantine, or at least something like a zoo exhibit, is the trilogy of the Time Odyssey by Arthur C Clarke in conjunction with Stephen Baxter.
    Lots of magic there!

  • @miltenignis1017
    @miltenignis1017 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Catches Covid (again) -> looks through notifications -> notices this.
    On point as always Isaac, lol. Thanks for brightening up my personal little quarantine with your videos.

    • @dansmith16
      @dansmith16 Před 6 měsíci

      Another successful application of va\/\/\/

  • @JosephKano
    @JosephKano Před 6 měsíci +6

    Lord Nurgle in the corner taking notes on a SFIA video.

  • @bobjonson143
    @bobjonson143 Před 6 měsíci +9

    It would be nice if he mentioned that we should get a drink and a snack more often

    • @rRekko
      @rRekko Před 6 měsíci +1

      Why would you put coke in the chips?

  • @avishalom2000lm
    @avishalom2000lm Před 6 měsíci +2

    Just to point out, at the risk of sounding like a broken record: "USE THEM TOGETHER, USE THEM IN PEACE" does NOT appear in the novel. It was in the movie. That was a Hollywood concession to the "benevolent aliens" trope of wise elder races coming to save us from ourselves. The imminent war between the US and USSR also was not in the novel, but was thrown in as a dramatic flair so that everyone back on Earth could hold hands in a "kumbaya" moment while watching the new sun in the sky.

    • @xXx_Regulus_xXx
      @xXx_Regulus_xXx Před 5 měsíci

      not terrible tropes inherently, but I hate deviations from the author's intent for adaptations. If you want to push a different message, make up your own damn story.

  • @NikolaiManning
    @NikolaiManning Před 6 měsíci +2

    There was an old Orson Scott Card book (Not a part of the Ender series) called Treason or A Planet Called Treason, that talks about an entire civilization that was quarantined on a prison planet. All of the founders had been convicted of treason of some kind, and ditched on the planet and were forced to survive. The inhabitants of the planet had been there for generations and had formed civilizations based entirely around the culture or profession of the founders of their family lines. It quickly delves into science fantasy, body horror, and moral/ethical questions, but was a really good read when I found it twenty odd years ago.

  • @cavemaneca
    @cavemaneca Před 6 měsíci +3

    I was expecting more references to well known examples in fiction, like Alastair Reynolds's Melding Plague, or the Library from Doctor Who. Still a good episode, but I guess I also wanted a little bit of analysis on how realistic some examples were too.

  • @danielefabbro822
    @danielefabbro822 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I had this idea of putting Earth in quarantine after the exodus of mankind... In one of my background stories for possible novels.
    The point of the quarantine was that of preserving life and the planet entirely from being destroyed by natural or by artificial hands.
    Some drastic solarpunk stuff.

  • @ramuk1933
    @ramuk1933 Před 6 měsíci +5

    21:10 I really like that picture.

  • @chessoc7799
    @chessoc7799 Před 6 měsíci +4

    The Alien homeworld would be a good candidate :) Before Ridley Scot made them into a modern creation anyway.

    • @linz8291
      @linz8291 Před 4 měsíci

      lol...what's your preference for the candidate alien homelands?

  • @Crustpope
    @Crustpope Před 6 měsíci +10

    Within the first 20! New record!

  • @emmettobrian1874
    @emmettobrian1874 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Maybe our local cluster is the subject of a very long running court case where no one is allowed to land until it's settled

  • @batskink533
    @batskink533 Před 6 měsíci +1

    "Malady of mind body or ethics" is a great name for a sci fi story

  • @Sebby_75
    @Sebby_75 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Love the channel and I try to listen to episode every week, either when I go for a walk or before the bed...
    I have only one complaint, background music being same between most of episodes is slowly driving me nuts.
    Especially "Stellardrone - Ultra Deep Field" being in basically in every single episode. Is there any chance for more variety in the future?

    • @isaacarthurSFIA
      @isaacarthurSFIA  Před 6 měsíci +7

      I was switching it up but got some negative feedback on some choices so went back to a few prior scores till I come up with some new safe picks, I'll rotate some new ones in for march

    • @brunocesarcerqueira2525
      @brunocesarcerqueira2525 Před 6 měsíci +4

      ​@@isaacarthurSFIA Perhaps the community could submit suggestions and vote together on new soundtracks. (although I don't see any problems with the current trails). Just as the episodes are voted on.

    • @chickennugget481
      @chickennugget481 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@brunocesarcerqueira2525 i like that idea

  • @cavetroll666
    @cavetroll666 Před 6 měsíci +6

    salute from Toronto love your content :).

  • @ACFoxeye
    @ACFoxeye Před 6 měsíci +1

    If you want a thorough example of planet-wide quarantine, Armored Core VI's own Planetary Closure Administration plays a major part in that game's story. Don't know if you play many games yourself, but I think you'd enjoy the narrative around the Coral substance as a general science-fiction reader.

  • @Civil_Maniac
    @Civil_Maniac Před 6 měsíci +1

    The Cytonic series by Brandon Sanderson is about aliens trying to contain humanity. 9:15 basically describes the setup for the first book

  • @Myria83
    @Myria83 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Our species being (partly) quarantined on Earth without knowing it is the premise of my first two hard sci-fi novels.

  • @808bigisland
    @808bigisland Před 6 měsíci +1

    Quarantine-, prison- and farming-planet describes exactly our situation

  • @arjunsajith2198
    @arjunsajith2198 Před 6 měsíci +12

    Can you do pleasure planet next

    • @isaacarthurSFIA
      @isaacarthurSFIA  Před 6 měsíci +15

      Paradise planets are on an upcoming poll :)

    • @spiffygonzales5160
      @spiffygonzales5160 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Sir you're watching Isaac Arthur, you already know what it's like on a pleasure planet. :)

    • @arjunsajith2198
      @arjunsajith2198 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Paradise planet, so that's the more correct term

    • @seanhewitt603
      @seanhewitt603 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@arjunsajith2198 unlike threedice....

    • @DanielGenis5000
      @DanielGenis5000 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Pleasure planet sounds much more seedy and therefore more interesting; staffed by clones, every sexual experience and drug, or is the whole thing in virtual?

  • @JohnSmith-yp2nt
    @JohnSmith-yp2nt Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love that you invoked the term of "glassing" a planet. I know this is the right place to ask this question, is that just a term from the Halo universe, or has it propagated elsewhere?

  • @jamesm2577
    @jamesm2577 Před 6 měsíci +2

    An advanced enough space power could use kessler syndrome could be deliberately put in place to aid a long lived quarantine blockade. If anything coming up/going down needs to thread a needle it leaves a lot less chances for a ship to slip unnoticed past or survive a blockade fleet.

  • @Bitchslapper316
    @Bitchslapper316 Před 6 měsíci +2

    It's looking like earth will be a quarantined planet again just before November.

  • @mario9318
    @mario9318 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Isaac's videos are the only ones that I have to watch at 0.75x, way too many mind-blowing ideas at a too fast rate for my stupid silly brain.

  • @frisianmouve
    @frisianmouve Před 6 měsíci +1

    Having seen some subnautica speedruns being stuck on a quarantined planet is really just a minor inconvenience

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard Před 6 měsíci +4

    Dont worry it will only be for two weeks
    that last for two years somehow
    galactic years

  • @MARILYNANDERSON88
    @MARILYNANDERSON88 Před 6 měsíci

    Very important considerations!
    Thanks for teaching the latest awesome discoveries.

  • @GreeseMonkie1998
    @GreeseMonkie1998 Před 6 měsíci +1

    First thoughts i had was. Simply induce a Kessler syndrome event to quarantine a planet

  • @jacejan3128
    @jacejan3128 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Space Australia. Nuff said.

  • @Datan0de
    @Datan0de Před 6 měsíci +1

    This episode made me keep thinking of Sentinel Island.

    • @xXx_Regulus_xXx
      @xXx_Regulus_xXx Před 5 měsíci

      that's not quarantine, it's a strictly patrolled border

  • @liamredmill9134
    @liamredmill9134 Před 6 měsíci

    Getting into some deeper layers of sci-fi,I enjoyed this one

  • @DanielGenis5000
    @DanielGenis5000 Před 6 měsíci +4

    The truth seems to me that physically quarantining is incredibly difficult while putting subjects into a virtual life without their knowledge would be just fine according to a morality that’s evolved with the capability for centuries. As life in Virtual might be preferable for a majority, as it promises godhood to everyone, removing a population from the physical universe might be considered a gift. What’s interesting is that this could happen in layers; imagine an already simulated society evolving to the point where they can be Space Nazis or something, and then uploading Space Mud People from within a simulation… and again, and again. In an infinite universe that would have to be the case, among the other possibilities!

  • @alphadraconis9898
    @alphadraconis9898 Před 6 měsíci

    I think there is a great episode idea in Botworlds such as Stanislav from OA, i.e. machine ecosystems left from some form of non sentient but self replicating machines intentionally or unintentionally left on a world by another agency.

  • @huntera123
    @huntera123 Před 6 měsíci

    Vernor Vinge explored the dangerous meme concpt in great depth in "A Fire Upon tge Deep"

  • @ts25679
    @ts25679 Před 6 měsíci +2

    What do you think, would you be more curious if the aliens had just told us "we are sheltering a new species that has emerged on Europa, do not interfere with their development." As opposed to just leaving the reason a massive ?

  • @rustymustard7798
    @rustymustard7798 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Skibidi toilet doomed us to another millennia of planetary quarantine.

  • @JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579
    @JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thanks for another great video!

  • @zsoltsz2323
    @zsoltsz2323 Před 6 měsíci +1

    We might just build gigantic ringworlds to sterilize the galaxy, but make it so that only a race of apes can activate it, who has never heard of the rings.

  • @anvos658
    @anvos658 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Not really sure you'd want to accelerate something to interstellar speeds within your planet's atmosphere, given that likely causes something far worse than a sonic boom. Plus the fleet quarantining a single planet has access to the resources of the rest of that solar system, and their infrastructure can be mobile.

    • @chickennugget481
      @chickennugget481 Před 6 měsíci

      of course not! you'd want to build a vacuum sealed mass driver that extends into space to minimize air resistance and the unnecessary weight of added fuel

    • @Bitchslapper316
      @Bitchslapper316 Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah that seems right. The only exception it seems is if the planet is so technologically advanced it acts like a giant starship. Like it can change it's orbit and move around the solar system.

  • @ramuk1933
    @ramuk1933 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Here's this for an idea: The humans are dangerous. Devastating, even. Why? Well, you see, they are incredibly magical beings. Why do you think there was so much worry about Voyager? We knew we should have put the anti-magic field outside the Oort Cloud, but that's expensive. We didn't know what chaos the miniscule residue of the humans' magic on Voyager would cause when it breached the field, but, luckily, it ended up being manageable.

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Před 6 měsíci

      I like the D&D take that our Earth is in an antimagic field. we could be a race of Archmagus juggernauts and not even know it. 999 in Arcana is useless if your MP is always 0.

  • @jonsel27578
    @jonsel27578 Před 6 měsíci

    This channel really is something special... great episode, as always

  • @sevex9
    @sevex9 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The video didn't really talk about methods on how to quarantine that much.
    I think it would have tied in to the whole stealth in space episode.
    I think another reason to quarantine a planet, which may have been touched on, would be for terraforming. Like perhaps it's a delicate and violent process, megastructures and processes literally reshaping the planet, and you would really rather not have people trying to settle on it or interfering. Maybe the planet is simply slated to be terraformed in the future and you don't want cities sprouting up.
    That's something about terraforming Mars that I see not working out. We're going to establish colonies on it long before we consider terraforming and once we do we could have millions on the planet that would have their homes underwater or otherwise destroyed if we tried terraforming.

  • @michaelmcchesney6645
    @michaelmcchesney6645 Před 6 měsíci

    I actually reread David Weber's Dahak trilogy just last week, which has planetary quarantines as a significant plot point. Spoilers for a trilogy that was originally published from 1991 to 1996). In Mutineers Moon, an astronaut named Colon MacIntyre is flying a solo mission on the dark side of the moon when his ship is captured and taken inside what he originally thinks is a base built inside the Moon by extraterrestrials. He learns that the Moon is actually a warship of the 4th Imperium named Dahak, which has been orbiting the Earth for 51,000 years. He also learns that the chief engineer had created a fake drive failure as part of an attempted mutiny. The captain order Dahak to flood the ship with poison gas and radiation causing the crew of 250,000 to escape in lifeboats, while the 3,000 mutineers escaped in sublight warships. All modern humans are descendants of Dahak's crew. As the first descendant of the crew to return to Dahak, Colon is made Captain and given the mission of subduing the mutineers who have remained alive through a combination of stasis and brain transplants. There is a clock because an extraterrestrial threat that periodically sweeps through the galaxy and was responsible for destroying the first 3 Imperiums has been detected and will reach Earth in less than 3 years.
    In The Armageddon Inheritance, Colon takes Dahak to find out why they can't contact the 4th Imperium so that they can get help. They ultimately discover that the 4th Imperium had become the 4th Empire and that it had been destroyed 45,000 years ago because of the accidental release of a bioweapon designed to exterminate all life on a planet. Because the Empire had developed a mat trans that allowed near instantaneous travel over hundreds of light years, it had spread throughout the Empire, apparently killing all humans everywhere but Earth. When the weapon was discovered, all planets deactivated their mat trans, and most set up weapons in their solar systems to prevent a ship from either entering or leaving their system. Colon ends up going to the capital system of Birhat, where a computer charged with controlling Battlefleet and guarding the succession makes Colon the new emperor because he is both the highest-ranking Battlefleet officer and civil official. He had declared himself governor of the "colony" of Earth so that he could pardon mutineers who had assisted him and had pledged (under an imperial lie detector) to help defend Earth. As Emperor, he is able to reactivate the Emperor's personal fleet of planetoid warships (that are larger and more powerful than Dahak) and save the Earth.
    In Heirs of Empire, Colon's twin children survive an assassination attempt that leaves them stranded with 3 friends on a sublight battleship hundreds of light years from either the Capitol or Earth. With no way to contact help, they head for the nearest star hoping to find Imperial technology they can use to build a hypercom. What they actually discover is an inhabited planet with an active quarantine system. They survive the missiles fired at them and reach the planet, where they discover an agrarian theocracy. The religion bans any technology powered by anything but muscle, water, or wind. When the computer speaks, they think it is the voice of God, and their holy days are things called Fire Tests and System Check. The kids need to get to the computer in the temple but can't use Imperial tech within 100 kilometers of that temple because of the weapons systems controlled by the computer. (The book doesn't explain why the Empire used the Metric System 45,000 years ago.) The kids need to equip and train an army to overthrow the temple so that they can get home. Fans of David Weber might recognize this book as where he got the idea for his Safehold series.

  • @enklaev1465
    @enklaev1465 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Can anyone tell me has isaac commented on the use of navies for interplanetary or interstellar civilizations, would species capable of leaving and entering a planets atmosphere still maintain dedicated navies? (The water kind)

    • @808bigisland
      @808bigisland Před 6 měsíci

      The answer is no because our resident alien factions don’t use boats.

    • @enklaev1465
      @enklaev1465 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @808bigisland its just strange to me its never depicted im sure they would still be more convenient than purely airborne vehicles

    • @Democlis
      @Democlis Před 6 měsíci

      Would they? I can see trasport ships being used but an actual navi? If you have thousands of satelites surveying the planet 24-7 with som strategic weapons plataforms you can snipe any potential pirate or rogue ship on the sea in minutes, no need to complicate things with navie fleets. Although i can see a very niche use for navies in subsurface ocean conditions. Basically only subs for deep sea exploration and combat given how much less efective orbital weapons would be on those cases.

  • @TheLamingtonDrive
    @TheLamingtonDrive Před 3 měsíci

    The Urantia book posits that we are a quarantined planet.. but that fact is about to change

  • @DanielGenis5000
    @DanielGenis5000 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Oh good one!

  • @UpliftedCapybara
    @UpliftedCapybara Před 6 měsíci +4

    Sci-fi Sundays are the best Sundays

  • @HobbesNJoe
    @HobbesNJoe Před 6 měsíci +1

    26:57 A quarantine would answer the question of the Fermi Paradox.

  • @legi0n715
    @legi0n715 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If you look at North Sentinel island and everything that goes with it you find all the answers to our own fermi paradox.. some people care, more people dont, nobody bothers them, theyre protected, if we uplifted them what good would it do for them.. all the answers are there

  • @scottthomas3792
    @scottthomas3792 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Maybe aliens look at Earth as the interstellar equivalent of Gary, Indiana...how many tourists do they get? Not a quarantine as such, just not a pleasant place to stop...

  • @puck61luck64
    @puck61luck64 Před 6 měsíci

    Not sure about this channel but this has made me wonder. Well See! Thank you.

  • @theOrionsarms
    @theOrionsarms Před 6 měsíci +1

    Quarantine is only if you speak about a infection or transmissible diseases , informational quarantine is actually censorship, sometimes is necessary(you don't want good people to supply with information a hostile enemy), but usually is a bad idea, whole this arguing about banning ideas is under umbrella of "ignorance is bless" and big brother knows better doctrine.

  • @HiphopRelated
    @HiphopRelated Před 6 měsíci

    The planet MIranda in Serenity. Wipe the records

  • @Raycloud
    @Raycloud Před 6 měsíci

    Episodes on Homesteading and Quarantined planets and no mention of Pern. :(

  • @doge4818
    @doge4818 Před 6 měsíci

    As the days go on, i really start to think earth is quarantined from the rest of civilation

  • @MinerBat
    @MinerBat Před 6 měsíci

    2:17 so what you are saying is that amogus could be the solution to the Fermi paradox...

  • @zombiebullshark3834
    @zombiebullshark3834 Před 5 měsíci +1

    So that's why aliens abduct cows. They want to take some of that prion disease 😂😂😂

  • @matthewbagley2590
    @matthewbagley2590 Před 6 měsíci

    Would you ever do a video on traveling to other universes?

  • @jonmichaelgalindo
    @jonmichaelgalindo Před 6 měsíci +1

    "Caring about evolution is like respecting a pair of dice." In an episode of StarTrek Enterprise, the ship's doctor argued they had to genocide a race because evolution was revealing its divine intent to do so. The captain's like, "that's just a theory", and the doctor fires back, "It's not just a theory, it's a fact of the universe!" Ended with, "I agree", and they did it.

    • @codys447
      @codys447 Před 6 měsíci

      Natural selection is a tautology. And regardless, the current theory is whole genome-centric neutral theory of molecular evolution.

    • @jonmichaelgalindo
      @jonmichaelgalindo Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@codys447 No, I'm pretty sure humans have replaced natural human selection with intelligent human selection though... And to some extent most intelligent species have done that. That's what mate selection is all about. Bringing intelligence into the selection process.

    • @codys447
      @codys447 Před 6 měsíci

      @@jonmichaelgalindo "Natural selection" was formulated before the modern scientific standard of falsification by Karl Popper in the 1930s. Before this science was based on verificationism. Ultimately when evolution and natural selection are treated separately (rather than shifting around the definition, which is a classic red flag of pseudoscience), it is circular reasoning that natural selection is the CAUSE of evolution. Of course, we can still verify ("prove") it in our minds, but not rigorously falsify it. Many people like Jerry Fodor and Karl Popper himself have written on this.
      We might argue still that it is useful even if it is not falsifiable... but the thing is the empirical evidence indicates that most evolution is neutral.
      Why are anti-creationists holding to a tautological form of natural selection when the predominant theory in biology for the last 50 years has been the neutral theory of molecular evolution? You have probably figured out that humans are not especially honest... biologists won't acknowledge this publicly because it would give ammunition to creationists.

    • @codys447
      @codys447 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@jonmichaelgalindo Karl Popper, Jerry Fodor, and others have pointed out that natural selection is circular reasoning. It's a product of the verificationist standards of the 19th century, rather than the modern standards of falsification. It would not be accepted if it were proposed today. We might still argue it's useful... but the thing is the empirical evidence of the last 50 years is that evolution is mostly neutral.
      Artificial selection has consistency problems, but sexual selection holds up quite well.

    • @codys447
      @codys447 Před 6 měsíci

      @@jonmichaelgalindo Computational theology of mind (CTM) consumed the cognitive sciences for 60 years. Don't doubt something like that is impossible in the life sciences too just because they are "natural sciences". Jerry Fodor and Massimo Piattelli-Palmarini wrote a pretty good book on it.
      I agree though that sexual selection is true. Artificial selection should be reduced and changed to "fast" selective breeding, which has been deliberate only in the last few centuries, while the "slow" domestication of plants and animals is instead an extremely high rate of adaptation in response to predatory pressure.

  • @Gregemio
    @Gregemio Před 6 měsíci

    Ah yes good old 4546B, Ive been stranded in planet wide quarantine before so Ill be ok

  • @AndrewJohnson-oy8oj
    @AndrewJohnson-oy8oj Před 6 měsíci

    😂 "Killamagig" 😂

  • @mikolajtrzeciecki1188
    @mikolajtrzeciecki1188 Před 6 měsíci

    10:40 Can there be a quarantine against the pandemic of stupidity, servility, and general pointless panicking?

  • @dermeistefan
    @dermeistefan Před 6 měsíci

    Sometimes you have to quarantine planets... wouldn't want the tribbles, scourge of the universe, to escape!

  • @Tora-no-shi
    @Tora-no-shi Před 5 měsíci +2

    I wonder why a advanced intelligence would quarantine humans?
    I have too many answers to write here.

    • @timedeathe
      @timedeathe Před 3 měsíci

      Because of us. We could be a threat if we got out

    • @Tora-no-shi
      @Tora-no-shi Před 3 měsíci

      @@timedeathe one of the too many answers I didn't write down.
      I mean we are already destroying this planet why give us more.

  • @kennethlandert8350
    @kennethlandert8350 Před 6 měsíci

    Are we quarantined now? This would be a worth while show.

  • @robertoliver2651
    @robertoliver2651 Před 6 měsíci

    How would space shipping/trucking/trains work realistically?

  • @digigeek19
    @digigeek19 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Of course earth is quarantined. As we all know, much like a group of lions is a pride or a flamboyance of flamingos, or even a murder of crows, a group of humans is referred to as an infestation.

    • @erichtomanek4739
      @erichtomanek4739 Před 6 měsíci +2

      There's a short story by F L Wallace, Big Ancestor, that refers to that.

    • @HisCoconutGun
      @HisCoconutGun Před 6 měsíci +1

      Self loathing is a symptom of mental illness

  • @thick45
    @thick45 Před 6 měsíci

    When I saw the title, immediately thought about Planet 4546B!

  • @AEB1066
    @AEB1066 Před 6 měsíci

    Prison colonies may be unethical - as an Australian I felt that!

  • @timothyfoster6215
    @timothyfoster6215 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Nothing's as permanent as a temporary government program.

  • @Eldagusto
    @Eldagusto Před 6 měsíci

    Another fantastico episode! Let us not quarantine it like a dangerous memeplex. Let us spread it through the internet!🧐

  • @Jaggerbush
    @Jaggerbush Před 6 měsíci

    I bet we've BEEN uder a universal quarantine.

  • @ecogreen123
    @ecogreen123 Před 6 měsíci

    excited for some good old, lithoids

  • @dansmith16
    @dansmith16 Před 6 měsíci

    Dark Forest Theory sounds more favorable as time passes.

  • @tcray8599
    @tcray8599 Před 6 měsíci

    Earth and humanity has been quarantined since the events of...

  • @Thecrucialdruggy
    @Thecrucialdruggy Před 6 měsíci

    What kind of time passes outside the atmosphere of planets?

  • @jonskowitz
    @jonskowitz Před 6 měsíci

    "Human thought is so primitive it's looked upon as an infectious disease throughout the greater galaxy. Kinda makes you proud, doesn't it?"
    Kay, 1997

  • @constantinethecataphract5949

    There has been recent evidence to support the existence of an Earth sized planet deep in the kuiper belt most likely a captured rogue planet. It would be really interesting to see whst terraforming a planet like that would be like. Can it be pushed closer to the solar system? Can Neptune capture it and turn it into a moon?

    • @Emdee5632
      @Emdee5632 Před 6 měsíci

      You are probably mentioning hypothetical Planet Nine. We just don't know at all if it exists or not. It is a good explanation for the weird orbits of several Kuiper belt objects. Terraforming it? it's likely just above the absolute temperature of zero degrees. Pushing it closer to the inner solar system? We won't be having that technology for centuries. P9 is not just a bit outside Pluto's orbit at 50 or 60 AU, it's at hundreds of AU...

  • @aftabansari9723
    @aftabansari9723 Před 6 měsíci

    How about planetary Nature Reserves.

  • @scorinth
    @scorinth Před 5 měsíci

    Mmmm, fresh, ovem-baked robots!