By this point, this guy could go to a bunch of people who don’t know him and say “Hey guys, I found an endangered language, let’s all learn to speak it in order to keep it from dying” when in all reality it’s one of his conlangs
Seriously, the fact that he spent this much time making a naturalistic writing system that’s as infuriating and bad as possible just shows his dedication to realism.
Languages only have to be irregular and messy if they are pretending to be natlangs. A regular and aesthetically pleasing artlang (a language that is simply for the fun of it) is perfectly fine to.
Ananya Mukund man I love when someone tells a joke about something than someone who thinks they’re smart corrects the joke with information we all already know because we all watched the same video. That’s my favorite part of the Internet
when you’re bored so you create an entire naturalistic language family with each language having its own grammar, lexicon, and writing system. in all seriousness, this is impressive
I managed to make a language that turns /tɔtɔnytæ/ written as "Totonyta" into /ənæɹtɔtʔoʊ/ written as "eenartot'oo". I'm not even done with it and it's only gone through half the sound changes.
"the amount of characters was reduced from thousands, to only Thirty-six. The simplicity of this writing system made it spread like wildfire across the subcontinent" Me who's Korean: **looks at Hangul**
in all fairness i, an English speaker, have always thought we should adopt a writing system similar to Korean hangul. The only trouble would be that English has more consonant clusters than Korean, so we would find it difficult to squeeze the consonant clusters of the word "strengths" into Korean hangul, as it is pronounced /st͡ʃʋɛɪŋfs/ in my dialect
@@eagle0710 Alphabets are the most suitable writing system for English and Latin script just looks fine right? The only problem and the only true problem is awkward spelling. Just fix spelling and done. Also Latin alphabet is quite easy to learn as well. The only problem with English orthography is spelling.
@@yourowndealer Well there’s that but English just isn’t a Romance language and that shows, especially given that English actually has a much bigger inventory than the Latin alphabet does.
@@tfan2222 Sure sure English is a Germanic language but scripts are not limited to be used by some particular languages. Latin alphabet can completely represent all sounds of Māori which is a Polynesian language while Latin alphabet can't even represent all sounds in Spanish (Ch). Latin script can't represent the nasal vowels in French, so they ended up with spelling rules instead similar to English. Th, Sh and Ch can represent English sounds even if they aren't single letters. The real problem with English orthography is it's spelling and even if English adopted Hangul and then ended with awkward spelling then you can't blame Hangul, u need to blame scholars. If u know English history somewhat and knows how the orthography of languages like Latin, Greek, French etc works, then u can have a basic understanding of how an English word can be (ofcourse exceptions). The real problem is wierd spelling
Ah yes. The most natural a conlang can look is when it is all rational and logical to someone understanding linguistics as well as centuries of a fictional history and completely impenetrable to someone trying to learn it as a second language. So, a job well done.
Try learning Georgian, or Basque, or Navajo, or Arabic, or really any language outside of the Indo-European bubble. Languages get really freaking complicated when you describe them completely and they're totally alien to your mother tongue. While the average conlang does tend to be a little more interesting than the average natlang, this level of complexity is totally naturalistic.
Let me get this straight. So in order to write "to sell" you need to write "gold armor fish sun", in old Edun. And then a Tiben fuckery happened with the script. My brain can't take it. Mein gott
I do really like your historical approach to writing systems. I think most conlangers go in with "I'm going to make an alphabet/syllabary/abuguida/logographic system", but it looks like your approach is to let historical developments happen and not worry too much about classification.
@@AgmaSchwa I was rewatching some old Biblaridion vids and was scrolling through the comments looking for anyone I knew, and my search was rewarded. good day to you, kind sir!
Is there any way I could get my hands on the spreadsheet for the Edun script? That chaos looked so incredibly interesting, I'd love to take a closer look. As well, a video about the Edun script would also be incredibly interesting, getting your insight into how it works, since you were the one to make it.
this is just straight-up god tier conlanging, like seriously, incredible doesn’t even begin to describe it. also this is the only naturalistic conlang that has ever made me want to learn it, which is seriously saying something. you should put up a reference grammar or something somewhere
...Wow. I must have spent so much time putting the ligatures together that I forgot to rearrange them to go from right to left. Damn that's irritating. Well-spotted though.
cadr003 It’s not for a story, nor is it simply a world for langs to exist in, It’s a world that he made to simply build cultures, nations, histories, all that. Although originally he made the Refugium as a world for a dnd session
@@Ptaku93 Well, there's a distinction in Nekachti culture between birth names and adult/earned names, so are you interested in birth names specifically?
@@Biblaridion I'm interested in names in general :D so if that's not asking too much, could you please explain the differences between the 2 and provide some examples?
One of my greatest enjoyments in life is watching people working on their passions and showcasing their knowledge and abilities. The amount of hard work, detail and passion in your conlangs is truly captivating, thank you for your videos
I also love making many conlangs and they're all so different. From no time indication to 7 forms with another 3 forms to go in creating 21 forms which can go together in like 10 ways and you can glue on all 21 in theory. So yeh, difference
@@fienevandijk7224 that sounds so interesting do you speak dutch? have you native language influenced your conlangs? I have many questions for conlangers in general
@@popito8366 ask them! And yes, I am Dutch and I'm not very sure about how it has affected my conlangs. I do think that I'm pretty good at looking at language objectively. I'm also studying Japanese and French, Latin, ancient Greek, German and English so 😎 😁 I've made 3 so far.
I definitely see the influence of Latin with the two basic verb stem forms, the influence of Nahuatl with the agglutination system, and a little bit of Manchu as well. Good work.
I love how you put so much depth in the backstory of your conlangs, reminds me of how the virtual band Gorillaz has its own crafted storyline for the fictional band members
Wow! Nekāchti is magnificent - absolutely top marks, Biblaridion :) It's a real work of art, or possibly architecture, to sculpt such a rich naturalistic language like this. Their derivation of the Edun script is also excellent. I'd still call it an abugida, just a richly featured one. But it's such an elegant way to derive a sensible and comprehensible writing system from an orthography as horrifically anachronistic as Tibetan's. Apropos, CZcams even suggested NativLang's video on Tibetan in the side bar, almost as though the algorithm had a sense of humour...
I thought I was good at making writing systems before I watched this video. Now I'm getting the sudden urge to burn all my notes and try again. Well done
14:04 I like languages that include cases that can be used subjectively, which I surprisingly haven't seen very many of. I made a language (called "Chɪshinʌ" in case you were wondering) that has suffixes that are added to ends of words to determine quality, either negatively or positively. The word for dust is "xsh," but if someone was referring to "good looking dust" it would be called "xshpesi," while "xshpʌsʌ" means "bad looking/ugly dust." Some of these frequent attachments become recognized as words on their own. After many years, a certain mineral dust had come to be known as "xshpesi," so a particularly attractive sample would be referred to as "xshpesipesi." I still have yet to include a history/proto-language for it, and that is something I hadn't even considered until I started watching your channel. You have a lot of good ideas!
If you come to Ethiopia and say "ndendeu" in the Oromo language, people would say "what?" (maal?) because it is a faster way of saying "hindanda'u" by removing the h and i. It means "I can't" or "I'm unable". Pure coincidence, of course, but I thought it was interesting. Excellent creation overall. I'm impressed.
I get into a lot of conlanging blocks, but every time I watch one of your videos, whether it be a showcase of your own language or just a lesson, it gives me immense inspiration to get back into it. And for that, I commend you on the quality of your videos and hope you never stop making them :)
I have a question about the writing system. How would you write, for example, the word "Kaprilik"? Would you write it as "lik-ri-kap" or as "lik-pri-ka"? And also if there is a long vowel in the beginning of a word should you write it as V with V diacritic or as two V characters?
You are a brilliant language maker. Your visual aids have greatly improved over time, too. I think that you should publish documents for your languages alongside videos, but I know there are several reasons not to.
I love that you created a whole other form of writing… only to not use it (at least for these people) That's my kind of world building. ❤️ I'm currently creating an entire language from solely the phones and phonotactics in a collection of names I've made for people (with very specific spelling and pronunciation rules) that may never actually be used in the story being written. Not even once. But they must have language!! (Plus it's fun.) So away I go binge watching videos, and taking furious notes. 🙃
At around 14:00 you mention the tense suffixes having negative and interrogative forms, but what if you need to convey them both at the same time? For instance "isn't it big?". Would you take the negative form "hekra" and say it with interrogative intonation, or would you add the interrogative to the negative like "hekrō"?
I think that's coming at it from an English speaking perspective. The "is it not" in "isn't" actually is the interrogative. Breaking it down away from English idiosyncrasies, the basic sentence you made would be "INTER. Big?" If there's no combination of negative and interrogative, a language might have a series of binaries for that kind of thing. Like small/big, good/bad, light/dark, day/night. But I wouldn't want to come up with all of those, that sounds cumbersome. Or you might be able to use both. "Big -NEGATIVE-INTER?" Which would switch over to English as something like "is it not big?" Not big meaning something like small/medium in size/height/stature. So, thinking about it it makes sense to be able to have both a negative and an interrogative to ask a question about something NOT being true. However, this language is so very quirky they may have an entirely irregular form of that too. 😂
This is actually something I wanted to include in the video but decided to cut for time. There is no hybrid negative-interrogative verb form because the negative and interrogative auxiliaries of Proto-Thirean couldn't both be applied to the same verb. Instead you use the interrogative form and combine it with a negative adverb. So "isn't it big?" would be "che hekō?" I'll probably talk about this more when I do the Edun showcase.
Thank you so much for your excellent video! Though I’ve been conlanging for a while now, I’ve only just recently, thanks to you, decided to try to make Naturalistic conlangs. Some aspects are a bit difficult for me, especially developing adpositions and Head Parameters but this video actually clarified a lot for me! Thank you
Love the aesthetic and style of the script! And if that is a font it appears to be well kerned & to have an established vertical metrics system. Fantastic!
I suppose you could almost call Nekāchti a Syllabary Abjad- since it uses diacritics for vowels but the vowels *could* be ignored. Love the writing system though, and the in-depth history. Excellent work! Would it be possible to get a dictionary, vocabulary list or just some documents on/ teaching the language? o.O
SciGeoHistory what I meant is that reason Japanese and hangul were created was to simplify the complex Chinese writing system to increase literacy.Also, Japanese still uses Chinese characters in the kanji system
The Edun writing system looks really cool. I love that their contemporaries were all "writing is great but it's so harrrrrd" and then fixed it. That's a cool story.
Hey Biblardion! Love your work-you've actually inspired me to try making my own conlang :) I just had a thought: Can you do this for the English language? In the U.S., grammar has largely disappeared from the education system. So, for example, I can't tell you why one verb is conjugated differently from another (unless by chance I know its etymology, and even that isn't the full picture); I can only say that it should be conjugated this or that way. It would be so cool to see an exposé on the English language!
Compared to other conlanging videos, you've really helped me understand more of the ins and outs of conlang creation! Been "conlanging" for a few years and had some basics down, but after watching your stuff I've been able to actually have proper grammar and verb tenses and the like for the first time! I really appreciate you showing off your own languages too, it gives some really good insight as to how these things come together into a full(er) language! Do you have any advice for keeping track of sound changes across your vocabulary? So far, I've been manually going through every word in my 100+ vocab so far to do it, but I'm interested to hear if you have any tips for that.
Look up the language construction kit on zompist.com. He has a sound creation applier in java format. So you input your letters in categories (vowel, consonant, fricative, stop, etc) on one side, a kiiind of complicated sound change list in the middle (the help button takes you to a seperate page of how to use it) and then on the right you put in all of your initial words. It sounds complicated but is so so sooo worth it. If you click the right boxes it will show you the original word sound and the word sound after it changed. Has a list of what rules applied to what words on the bottom as well. So so sooo helpful. And also fun. He also has a page to get the sounds made into categories in the first place, and one to create words if you input the sounds the categories and your phonotactics for syllables. Highly recommend. I've spent hours playing with it.
NO! Use his wisdom to aid you in the creation of your own conlangs! Never put something off just because you think someone else is better at it than you!
If you can imagine someone trying to learn a language and hating that not everything is the way they hoped/predicted to be, you know that's a really naturalistic language. Amazing work!
I'd really love to see a video in this style but for a natural language, I think it'd be really interesting to see a breakdown of an actual spoken language in this manner.
The complexity of both this and Oqolaawak amazes me. How do you add all those extra features like limiting codas down to a few sounds, and making plurals only used for animates and stuff???
@@0Aquamelon I thought that he covered them but perhaps not, david peterson, ewa u. and artifexian have some good videos explaining all manner of conlang things, so I'm sure there's something about it (czcams.com/play/PLg1OMpL5Gt_UGiX-GDxiT_DcmDO12zw6Q.html czcams.com/channels/gJSf-fmdfUsSlcr7A92-aA.htmlfeatured - look in the playlists for more specific stuff czcams.com/play/PLduA6tsl3gygfiWmGAhhHb4-HAqP6I63l.html )
By this point, this guy could go to a bunch of people who don’t know him and say “Hey guys, I found an endangered language, let’s all learn to speak it in order to keep it from dying” when in all reality it’s one of his conlangs
Problem is most of his conlangs are for a world with a completely different biosphere, and they’d begin to notice something was up pretty quick.
@@NoxaClimaxX There's also no cardinal directions.
A buffer-busting joke!
Would you then call him.... a conman?
@@emilysoda4689 Oh my god, we could call people in the conlang community *CONMEN!* That is literally genius!
Edun writing: *looks at Chinese*, *looks at Tibetan*, "Hold my beer."
Don’t forget Japanese (cries in kanji)
@@emtheslav2295 Em if you’re talking about Kanji then it’s just Chinese
He gonna go throw fists with japanese kanji huh
Seriously, the fact that he spent this much time making a naturalistic writing system that’s as infuriating and bad as possible just shows his dedication to realism.
@卡比卡比 as a Korean idk the difference between Japanese and Chinese
*creates beautifully regular and aesthetically pleasing language*
Almost done - it just needs one more thing.
*cat walks over keyboard*
perfect
Purrrfect...
😂
"@[=g3,8d]\&fbb=-q]/hk%fg"
(followed by the delete key)
Languages only have to be irregular and messy if they are pretending to be natlangs. A regular and aesthetically pleasing artlang (a language that is simply for the fun of it) is perfectly fine to.
Ananya Mukund man I love when someone tells a joke about something than someone who thinks they’re smart corrects the joke with information we all already know because we all watched the same video. That’s my favorite part of the Internet
when you’re bored so you create an entire naturalistic language family with each language having its own grammar, lexicon, and writing system.
in all seriousness, this is impressive
395 likes and this is the first reply
@@JoshuaF. one like and this is the first reply
Go home, Edun writing system. You're drunk.
Fernando Banda it’s like chu nom but worse
Snovaltica Chu Nom is Vietnamese written with Chinese characters right? Or is it the current system
Emeraldstar_14 it’s Vietnamese written with chinese characters
Matthew Bitter thanks!
Chu nom is so much worse than kanji that you literally have to learn like 15 Chinese languages to write your own
Last time I was this early Nekāchti was still a dialect
Grétar Reynisson last time you were what?
Feanor of Sunspear he/she said early
Last time I was this early Nekāchti was still Hekantrian
No the last time you were this early you got your step sister pregnant
The last time I was this early, the Thirean peoples hadn't moved into the central reigion yet.
Not even Nekāchti has a word for how much I love these videos.
Well said
Irlutuv- "I really love these videos" with u's added. bam. New word.
Dautto Crecet damnedPurifier no no, it’s irrlutuv
So it will be "Tsirlutu" to say "I (usually) like this video"
Ser glian Nekāchti doesn't have u
Please, PLEASE make a video about the edun writing system
Yes.
this
Yes! What's harder? Edun or Kanji?
@@slamwall9057 Thandian.
@@rivenfish9725 no I mean which writing system is harder
Sounds like Greek and Nahuatl had a baby
I thought the same.
Yes!
Yes!
Yes!
Knowing he loves both languages, that’s probably the case.
I would LOVE to see that full list of sound changes that takes Edun 'thangqərkhiim' to 'dzvirzhã' that is radical
I managed to make a language that turns /tɔtɔnytæ/ written as "Totonyta" into /ənæɹtɔtʔoʊ/ written as "eenartot'oo". I'm not even done with it and it's only gone through half the sound changes.
My language had a change from Kāguránush to Kholaung
I managed to get *ʟo.cu.lim into ˈzɛʋ.lɛː
Novvain omg it u
Once I made it so an island's name was written as Jie Han but pronounced Vi Hu
The depth to the language and its history is truly amazing, and the presentation is as well! Great job!
H
I like how he finished with "in a nutshell" and I'm completely overwhelmed
I’m starting to learn chinese so I look at your name and be like :
yī de whatever the hell that is
@@user-kn8bu8ue6z haha, the last character is specifically japanese, pronounced "okami"
@@user-vt6rq9hb9h thank you for telling
"the amount of characters was reduced from thousands, to only Thirty-six. The simplicity of this writing system made it spread like wildfire across the subcontinent"
Me who's Korean: **looks at Hangul**
in all fairness i, an English speaker, have always thought we should adopt a writing system similar to Korean hangul. The only trouble would be that English has more consonant clusters than Korean, so we would find it difficult to squeeze the consonant clusters of the word "strengths" into Korean hangul, as it is pronounced /st͡ʃʋɛɪŋfs/ in my dialect
@@eagle0710
Alphabets are the most suitable writing system for English and Latin script just looks fine right?
The only problem and the only true problem is awkward spelling.
Just fix spelling and done.
Also Latin alphabet is quite easy to learn as well.
The only problem with English orthography is spelling.
@@yourowndealer Well there’s that but English just isn’t a Romance language and that shows, especially given that English actually has a much bigger inventory than the Latin alphabet does.
@@tfan2222
Sure sure English is a Germanic language but scripts are not limited to be used by some particular languages.
Latin alphabet can completely represent all sounds of Māori which is a Polynesian language while Latin alphabet can't even represent all sounds in Spanish (Ch).
Latin script can't represent the nasal vowels in French, so they ended up with spelling rules instead similar to English.
Th, Sh and Ch can represent English sounds even if they aren't single letters.
The real problem with English orthography is it's spelling and even if English adopted Hangul and then ended with awkward spelling then you can't blame Hangul, u need to blame scholars.
If u know English history somewhat and knows how the orthography of languages like Latin, Greek, French etc works, then u can have a basic understanding of how an English word can be (ofcourse exceptions).
The real problem is wierd spelling
@@eagle0710 what even is your dialect?
I have seen all of your videos and still only understand every fifth word.
I still love watching.
Same
Of only I? I don't get it
Same!
Me
Same here
Ah yes. The most natural a conlang can look is when it is all rational and logical to someone understanding linguistics as well as centuries of a fictional history and completely impenetrable to someone trying to learn it as a second language.
So, a job well done.
Try learning Georgian, or Basque, or Navajo, or Arabic, or really any language outside of the Indo-European bubble. Languages get really freaking complicated when you describe them completely and they're totally alien to your mother tongue.
While the average conlang does tend to be a little more interesting than the average natlang, this level of complexity is totally naturalistic.
I viscerally require the full lore of this world now
Let me get this straight. So in order to write "to sell" you need to write "gold armor fish sun", in old Edun. And then a Tiben fuckery happened with the script. My brain can't take it. Mein gott
I love myself some funk in conlangs... and this, my dear man, this has _funk_
i *love* that reference
@@Marjiance26 where's it from again?
Welp
*Throws miss matched conlang papers off table*
Jokes aside, that's just straight up amazing
I agree. His languages are amazing and so incredibly intricate that sometimes I wonder why I even try when I watch these videos
@@xgamerx360x it's hard to remember these are the culminations of years with of work
@@DTux5249 I’m still working on it and getting the hang of things. Most of the time I get very inspired by Biblaridion’s work
I gotta say, the script does indeed look a bit like what would happen if 한글 mixed with සිංහල over a long period of time. Love it! °෴°
underrated sinhala-using emoticon
I do really like your historical approach to writing systems. I think most conlangers go in with "I'm going to make an alphabet/syllabary/abuguida/logographic system", but it looks like your approach is to let historical developments happen and not worry too much about classification.
Biblaridion would make an excellent guest on Conlangery, don'tcha think?
This is one of the best conlangs Ive ever seen.
based and ə-pilled ;)
@@user-vc7ur1hd2s hahah, impressive that you found this comment
@@AgmaSchwa I was rewatching some old Biblaridion vids and was scrolling through the comments looking for anyone I knew, and my search was rewarded. good day to you, kind sir!
based and ɐ pilled
hi nguh man i luv ur videos
How do you make such beautiful scripts
keep trying
He said on the Oqolaawak video that he used fontforge
@@user-xc8nn4rc1j in Mongolian all you have to do is write something and you're looking at an amazing scropt
Sounds like Ancient Greek. My type of accent. Love this. I just subscribed.
I thought it sounded Greek aswell!!
It sounds like greek and nahuatl
Is there any way I could get my hands on the spreadsheet for the Edun script? That chaos looked so incredibly interesting, I'd love to take a closer look. As well, a video about the Edun script would also be incredibly interesting, getting your insight into how it works, since you were the one to make it.
^
this is just straight-up god tier conlanging, like seriously, incredible doesn’t even begin to describe it. also this is the only naturalistic conlang that has ever made me want to learn it, which is seriously saying something. you should put up a reference grammar or something somewhere
It's so irregular
@@myomyat2216yeah and its awesome! I love it when languages are hopelessly irregular. Like genuinely I actually do im not being sarcastic. Its great
Wait a second, isn't the final "Thanks for watching!" written backwards in Nekāchti? (shouldn't it be right to left?)
Maybe that's how the writing system is, like how Arabic is, but I honestly don't know as i haven't finished the video.
...Wow. I must have spent so much time putting the ligatures together that I forgot to rearrange them to go from right to left. Damn that's irritating. Well-spotted though.
@@Biblaridion Hello! Im currently making my own writing system for an Australian aboriginal language called Warlpiri!!
Biblaridion just claim that it was written by somebody whose primary language is Edun and had forgotten that it was explicitly right to left
Also at 6:54, the word is written as "eksetstri," not "epsetstri"
I just want you to know that sometimes I just put these on repeat for background, while I’m conlanging, because they’re super inspirational/helpful.
Is this conworld for a story or did it emerge to provide a backdrop for the langs to exist in? Very curious.
cadr003 It’s not for a story, nor is it simply a world for langs to exist in, It’s a world that he made to simply build cultures, nations, histories, all that. Although originally he made the Refugium as a world for a dnd session
Brilliant video. The Nekachti script is quite well done.
*Nekāchti
Thank you! That means a lot coming from you.
@@Biblaridion could you please say, what are some personal names that speakers of Nekachti give to their children?
@@Ptaku93 Well, there's a distinction in Nekachti culture between birth names and adult/earned names, so are you interested in birth names specifically?
@@Biblaridion I'm interested in names in general :D so if that's not asking too much, could you please explain the differences between the 2 and provide some examples?
This blows my mind. Definitely do more conlang showcase videos.
My life is simple. I see Biblaridion, I click.
saaaame
I love watching and re-watching these videos, because every time I watch it I understand more and more.
Seems like a mix of ancient Greek and Manchu with a Han inspired writing system turned abugida... Pretty cool
I' getting Mesoamerican and Dravidian vibes, as well.
This is the most complex abugida I've ever seen, I've been trying to understand it for half an hour
One of my greatest enjoyments in life is watching people working on their passions and showcasing their knowledge and abilities. The amount of hard work, detail and passion in your conlangs is truly captivating, thank you for your videos
I also love making many conlangs and they're all so different. From no time indication to 7 forms with another 3 forms to go in creating 21 forms which can go together in like 10 ways and you can glue on all 21 in theory. So yeh, difference
@@fienevandijk7224 that sounds so interesting do you speak dutch? have you native language influenced your conlangs? I have many questions for conlangers in general
@@popito8366 ask them! And yes, I am Dutch and I'm not very sure about how it has affected my conlangs. I do think that I'm pretty good at looking at language objectively. I'm also studying Japanese and French, Latin, ancient Greek, German and English so 😎 😁 I've made 3 so far.
5:11 holy shit what happened there. I want to see those sound changes. This is even more insane than aqua >> eau
I definitely see the influence of Latin with the two basic verb stem forms, the influence of Nahuatl with the agglutination system, and a little bit of Manchu as well. Good work.
literally he can just upload conlang showcases and i would still watch the hell out of it
I love how you put so much depth in the backstory of your conlangs, reminds me of how the virtual band Gorillaz has its own crafted storyline for the fictional band members
This is easily the most beautiful sounding language Biblaridion has showed us.
Your content is really helpful regarding a conlang of my own that I'm making for a friend
Wow! Nekāchti is magnificent - absolutely top marks, Biblaridion :) It's a real work of art, or possibly architecture, to sculpt such a rich naturalistic language like this. Their derivation of the Edun script is also excellent. I'd still call it an abugida, just a richly featured one. But it's such an elegant way to derive a sensible and comprehensible writing system from an orthography as horrifically anachronistic as Tibetan's. Apropos, CZcams even suggested NativLang's video on Tibetan in the side bar, almost as though the algorithm had a sense of humour...
You should write a novel for your languages! I would definitely read that.
I think I used "magnificent" for your Oqolaawak showcase, so this time I'm going to have to go with "masterful." Bravo!
Yes more content like this! But also like the older content. More!
"He's speaking the language of gods"
Anyway it would be really nice learning this foolish marvelous language
You're a genius and I love it
We need more conlang showcases PLEASE!
I thought I was good at making writing systems before I watched this video. Now I'm getting the sudden urge to burn all my notes and try again. Well done
This is so cool. This channel is helping with the construction of my own conlang
14:04 I like languages that include cases that can be used subjectively, which I surprisingly haven't seen very many of. I made a language (called "Chɪshinʌ" in case you were wondering) that has suffixes that are added to ends of words to determine quality, either negatively or positively. The word for dust is "xsh," but if someone was referring to "good looking dust" it would be called "xshpesi," while "xshpʌsʌ" means "bad looking/ugly dust." Some of these frequent attachments become recognized as words on their own. After many years, a certain mineral dust had come to be known as "xshpesi," so a particularly attractive sample would be referred to as "xshpesipesi." I still have yet to include a history/proto-language for it, and that is something I hadn't even considered until I started watching your channel. You have a lot of good ideas!
OMG You are here!
Yes, that is a spoiler. Make of it what you will!
Wait,Freezepond? Its interesting to see you here.
what software do you use to make your glyphs? just photoshop, or something else?
In his Oqolaawak video he said he used fontforge. Not sure if he used it for this writing system as well though
@@compressedzipfolder7089 oh cool thanks!
@@jaytea3085 photoshop is proprietary bloatware. Just use gimp or kitra
@@amanaje4743 thanks for giving your very opinionated stance on the issue
If you come to Ethiopia and say "ndendeu" in the Oromo language, people would say "what?" (maal?) because it is a faster way of saying "hindanda'u" by removing the h and i. It means "I can't" or "I'm unable". Pure coincidence, of course, but I thought it was interesting. Excellent creation overall. I'm impressed.
I get into a lot of conlanging blocks, but every time I watch one of your videos, whether it be a showcase of your own language or just a lesson, it gives me immense inspiration to get back into it. And for that, I commend you on the quality of your videos and hope you never stop making them :)
I have a question about the writing system. How would you write, for example, the word "Kaprilik"? Would you write it as "lik-ri-kap" or as "lik-pri-ka"? And also if there is a long vowel in the beginning of a word should you write it as V with V diacritic or as two V characters?
This is a beautiful piece of art you've created
You are a brilliant language maker. Your visual aids have greatly improved over time, too. I think that you should publish documents for your languages alongside videos, but I know there are several reasons not to.
This is well beyond magnificent! How do you make such perfection?
Having watched your video about your favorite languages, it's plain to see where you got inspiration for a lot of these features!
I love that you created a whole other form of writing… only to not use it (at least for these people)
That's my kind of world building. ❤️
I'm currently creating an entire language from solely the phones and phonotactics in a collection of names I've made for people (with very specific spelling and pronunciation rules) that may never actually be used in the story being written. Not even once.
But they must have language!!
(Plus it's fun.) So away I go binge watching videos, and taking furious notes. 🙃
I'm in love with this. I want to make my own now.
/a:/ in natlangs: [aː]
/a:/ in conlangs: [aːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːːː]
That reminds me of a song that I always forget the name of. You know, the one that goes AAAAAAAA.
@@masicbemester it's named "big enough" or smth, you can just search "aaaaaaa" and it'll show up
@@h-hhh how did I forget "Big Enough"? And how often does that happen? Also, thanks for reminding me
My mother tongue has vowel lenght, And I can Tell he's saying them for the correct amount of time.
This is absolutely AMAZING!!!!!! u are so talented holy cow
How the heck do you do such amazing conlangs!!??
At around 14:00 you mention the tense suffixes having negative and interrogative forms, but what if you need to convey them both at the same time? For instance "isn't it big?". Would you take the negative form "hekra" and say it with interrogative intonation, or would you add the interrogative to the negative like "hekrō"?
I think that's coming at it from an English speaking perspective. The "is it not" in "isn't" actually is the interrogative.
Breaking it down away from English idiosyncrasies, the basic sentence you made would be "INTER.
Big?"
If there's no combination of negative and interrogative, a language might have a series of binaries for that kind of thing. Like small/big, good/bad, light/dark, day/night. But I wouldn't want to come up with all of those, that sounds cumbersome.
Or you might be able to use both. "Big -NEGATIVE-INTER?" Which would switch over to English as something like "is it not big?" Not big meaning something like small/medium in size/height/stature.
So, thinking about it it makes sense to be able to have both a negative and an interrogative to ask a question about something NOT being true. However, this language is so very quirky they may have an entirely irregular form of that too. 😂
This is actually something I wanted to include in the video but decided to cut for time. There is no hybrid negative-interrogative verb form because the negative and interrogative auxiliaries of Proto-Thirean couldn't both be applied to the same verb. Instead you use the interrogative form and combine it with a negative adverb. So "isn't it big?" would be "che hekō?" I'll probably talk about this more when I do the Edun showcase.
Biblaridion thanks so much for the reply! Can't wait for the video on edun!
I'm glad I found this channel. I never thought I'd enjoy linguistics.
Stellar work again, Biblaridion. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for your excellent video!
Though I’ve been conlanging for a while now, I’ve only just recently, thanks to you, decided to try to make Naturalistic conlangs.
Some aspects are a bit difficult for me, especially developing adpositions and Head Parameters but this video actually clarified a lot for me! Thank you
You know what i would love? If you could make series on learning some of your conlangs. But I love your vids anyway!
That's just awesome! Great inspirational work!!!
From a fellow conlanger, you're so inspiring!
Love the aesthetic and style of the script!
And if that is a font it appears to be well kerned & to have an established vertical metrics system.
Fantastic!
I suppose you could almost call Nekāchti a Syllabary Abjad- since it uses diacritics for vowels but the vowels *could* be ignored. Love the writing system though, and the in-depth history. Excellent work!
Would it be possible to get a dictionary, vocabulary list or just some documents on/ teaching the language? o.O
Sounds and looks very beautiful!
Nekachti sounds like it would be fun to pronounce, ngl
Also, I have to say thanks for introducing me to Exit Plan-- Your taste in music is amazing
that's an absolutely beautiful script!!
i haven't seen a lot of conlangs with singulatives before. cool to see i'm not the only one to use them!
How the writing system came into being is like the story of Hangul or Japanese
Cubert The Grox Hangul and Japanese were both simpler than the ridiculously complex Mandarin systems they were already using, Nekachti fron Edun.
SciGeoHistory what I meant is that reason Japanese and hangul were created was to simplify the complex Chinese writing system to increase literacy.Also, Japanese still uses Chinese characters in the kanji system
The Edun writing system looks really cool. I love that their contemporaries were all "writing is great but it's so harrrrrd" and then fixed it. That's a cool story.
Really entertaining and interesting video, keep up the good work💪😁
Hey Biblardion! Love your work-you've actually inspired me to try making my own conlang :) I just had a thought: Can you do this for the English language? In the U.S., grammar has largely disappeared from the education system. So, for example, I can't tell you why one verb is conjugated differently from another (unless by chance I know its etymology, and even that isn't the full picture); I can only say that it should be conjugated this or that way. It would be so cool to see an exposé on the English language!
Compared to other conlanging videos, you've really helped me understand more of the ins and outs of conlang creation! Been "conlanging" for a few years and had some basics down, but after watching your stuff I've been able to actually have proper grammar and verb tenses and the like for the first time!
I really appreciate you showing off your own languages too, it gives some really good insight as to how these things come together into a full(er) language!
Do you have any advice for keeping track of sound changes across your vocabulary? So far, I've been manually going through every word in my 100+ vocab so far to do it, but I'm interested to hear if you have any tips for that.
Look up the language construction kit on zompist.com.
He has a sound creation applier in java format. So you input your letters in categories (vowel, consonant, fricative, stop, etc) on one side, a kiiind of complicated sound change list in the middle (the help button takes you to a seperate page of how to use it) and then on the right you put in all of your initial words. It sounds complicated but is so so sooo worth it. If you click the right boxes it will show you the original word sound and the word sound after it changed. Has a list of what rules applied to what words on the bottom as well. So so sooo helpful.
And also fun.
He also has a page to get the sounds made into categories in the first place, and one to create words if you input the sounds the categories and your phonotactics for syllables.
Highly recommend. I've spent hours playing with it.
You're so good at conlanging that I'm never gonna try to make one of my own.
NO! Use his wisdom to aid you in the creation of your own conlangs! Never put something off just because you think someone else is better at it than you!
Yeees. I want to see more content like this. Its the best
MORE CONTENT LIKE THIS PLEASE!!!
You have honoured us once again!
For anyone wondering, the background music is Double Drift by Kevin Macleod (od course).
You're back! Nice! Now let's see the video. I'm sure it will be great. :)
This is so cool, a lot of time and effort must have gone into this! Do you plan on doing anything with this/these languages, or is it totally for fun?
The Edun writing system sounds, at a glance, *more* complex and irregular than Kanji in Japanese. I'm both impressed and horrified.
It is exactly what happened to Tibetan
You did an oustanding job: congratulations!!!!
05:05
Were they conquered by Poland?..
They're going to have trouble getting into space...
I love the orthographies you’ve come up with. Will you do a video on those on a larger scale
If you can imagine someone trying to learn a language and hating that not everything is the way they hoped/predicted to be, you know that's a really naturalistic language.
Amazing work!
I love conlang showcases so much!
I can see how amazing this is, even if I only understand
5:10 Dzvirzhã xD Sound like Polish: zwirża!
Swirls
Waiting for the duolingo course
What type of monster makes a conlang with 560 combination of tense, aspect, and mood. That's... cray. Impressive, but cray.
I'd really love to see a video in this style but for a natural language, I think it'd be really interesting to see a breakdown of an actual spoken language in this manner.
'A' as a letter: *exists*
Biblaridion: You have lost your letter privileges
The complexity of both this and Oqolaawak amazes me. How do you add all those extra features like limiting codas down to a few sounds, and making plurals only used for animates and stuff???
he went over it in his how to make a conlang series on his channel
Beiji Guang I know, but he left out details in adding rules such as limiting codas to a few sounds, and vowel harmony.
Well you just sort of. Say they do. Like "this is a phonotactic now"
@@0Aquamelon I thought that he covered them but perhaps not, david peterson, ewa u. and artifexian have some good videos explaining all manner of conlang things, so I'm sure there's something about it
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