I think Bird, the basketball genius that he is, already saw in a rookie Jordan, what we know now as the GOAT and wanted to send a message and take on the challenge of going head to head against him.
Jordan looked like a rookie in these highlights. Also he changed his shooting form by the end of his career. Just another example of a great player always adding and working on their game.
When you look back at what shoe technology was like, the floor construction, you get an even bigger appreciation of how incredible MJ was. It was really hard on their knees/feet compared to today, and body recovery tech wasnt nearly as good yet he only got hurt once and came back quicker than anyone could have.
Hey! Marty Glickman is announcing this game. He was the first legendary voice of the NBA. This guy helped along Johnny Most and Marv Albert in their careers. Also of note, Marty was a track and field star. He and another Jewish member of the U.S. Team were removed at the last minute from the 1936 Olympics in Berlin (the Hitler Olympics) and he was replaced by Jesse Owens.
If Michael jordan had a hakeem olajuwon he would of won about 5 more championships....he was basically alone in the first pro years..Celtics pistons lakers were loaded
MJ is #1. Bird may be #2. he was a great shooter and had exceptional b-ball IQ. but MJ was faster and stronger in his prime and developed a fadeaway that was unstoppable. It's hard to rank all-time greats with the different eras that are played in.. the game was played different in almost every era, which sometimes caused an inflation in certain stats. Also, as time has gone, players gradually are getting bigger, faster, stronger. the game is also officiated much different now. the 80's officiating, coupled with his never ending work ethic, an not to mention natural athletic ability sat 6'6 is why he is GOAT. The players now, physically are superior, but as far as fundamentals and the WILL to win, the 80's and 90's NBA is also the GOAT. The NBA now is a joke. a lot of it is how it's officiated, but the players just aren't the same. these are regular season games that had a playoff type atmosphere. sorry to say, NBA will never be the same.
- today's game is just commercialization. It has some merits but overall, the product sucks and that's evident in the arenas alone. It was better before - period.
@@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t 3 point contest with less defensive work now more than actual rivalries and wars on a basketball court in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's. Yes friends teaming up now and everyone looking for money here and there. Its only better for players today but in the past it was better for the fans.
As great as a defender as Celtics guard Dennis Johnson was, he could not guard Michael Jordan. Jordan kept blowing past Johnson. Man, MJ was quick as a cat off the dribble...he was explosive 😳
@@arvinsosmena1086 what are you on about, not from the start of their careers. Celtics had a 29-53 record the year before Bird came, bottom of the Eastern Conference. They only had a winning record only against the Pacers and the Knicks that year (with Tiny, Cornbread, Cowens). He took that same team and turned them into a 61-21, top of the Eastern Conference. Bird had the most points, made the most FGs (47% shooting), shot 40% from the 3P line, had the most rebounds, most steals, second in assists (behind Tiny), second in blocks (behind Cornbread and Cowens tied for first) and had the most turnovers. That's how good Bird's rookie season was.
Counter Strike, not sure about smarter. Bird was a better three-point shooter, I’m quite sure about that. As for passing, Jordan didn’t need to pass as much since he could he could easily beat the defense with his speed, athleticism and highly developed fadeaway and mid-range jumper. But other than that, like I said, they were both equally competitive.
@@theephraimite Most experts would agree that Bird would be smarter than just about any, and yes he was a better passer than Jordan, even Lebron has said that Bird had no flaws in his game. Bird did things that no one did, Jordan was yes more athletic and could palm the ball, and was also a decent shooter. Pat Riley said, if I had to pick a player to win a game, I'd choose Jordan, if I had to pick a player to save my life, I'd choose Bird. I grew up watching Bird, so I saw games that are not available on youtube, he did something astonishing every game. His hand eye coordination was insane, he could just flick and touch passes where ever he wanted. Even Magic didn't quite show this kind of dexterity. czcams.com/video/wwo4vtaZmsY/video.html
Kareem: Larry Bird may have been the best player I ever played against, czcams.com/video/rbVJAp7Mg1U/video.html Kareem: Larry Bird could do anything. Oscar Robertson was scary. Wilt Chamberlain was unbelievable. czcams.com/video/D13Jlm8EQjU/video.html "Larry, you only told me one lie. You said there will be another Larry Bird. Larry, there will never, ever be another Larry Bird." - Magic Johnson, 1992 speech made in Boston in honor of Larry Bird “Larry has a way of making everybody he comes into contact with a better person. A pure American of the highest character as reported in Sports Illustrated: "Bob Woolf, Larry Bird's attorney, brings out a hotel bill dated April 6, 1979. .... Now, the most illuminating thing in this whole saga is that hotel bill from 1979. You see, except for the basic room charge and the tax, there was nothing else on it. No room service, no restaurant charge, no long-distance phone calls, no nothing. Having dealt with many other athletes, Woolf naturally assumed that the kid would charge at will. But that wasn't how Larry Joe Bird was raised back in French Lick, Indiana. ‘Larry has a way of making everybody he comes into contact with a better person,’ Woolf says. ‘If you think the Larry Bird on the court has character and is unselfish-well, off the court he's even more so.’ Among those who know Bird well, the same catalog of qualities is cited again and again: honest, loyal, steadfast, dependable-his existence shaped by the contradictory, almost mystical ability to be the cynosure, yet always to contribute to those around him. Mel Daniels, who was an assistant coach at Indiana State when Bird played there, said it best: ‘It's like a piece of Larry goes to each player by the things he does.’ Tony Clark, a Terre Haute radio executive who grew up with Bird, says, ‘Larry epitomizes the word friend. Do you understand that?’ Yes. ‘Then you really don't have to know anything else about him.’” (Sports Illustrated 1988, Frank Deford, “A Player For The Ages,” Sports Illustrated, Time, Inc., New York, New York, March 21, 1988) "The guy was a basketball genius who had a mask of "a hick from French Lick" out as his calling card. But if you believed that for one second, you were going to get beaten." - Dr. Julius Erving, Televised interview published September 12, 2011, czcams.com/video/uxbDdnm3F1A/video.html Larry Bird - The Greatest, czcams.com/video/rgPpTvX86n8/video.html Larry Bird Greatest Passer of All Time czcams.com/video/CExjzyTRxnQ/video.html Larry Bird: The Art of Passing czcams.com/video/C727koGJaPo/video.html Career Retrospective- Dennis Johnson, Lone Star Outlaw, Feb 24, 2007, czcams.com/video/n8sAyIZiPJ0/video.html Dennis Johnson's Basketball Hall of Fame Enshrinement Speech, OfficialHoophall, Feb 17, 2012, czcams.com/video/SlYYZTQpdAk/video.html Dennis Johnson to Larry Bird Tribute - Basketball Chemistry (The Secret Play), The Book of Basketball, Oct 6, 2015, czcams.com/video/tQYs5rsSud0/video.html Larry Bird 1985 Interview, Just Win Today - Daily Motivation, Sep 10, 2017, czcams.com/video/dcJCybL6jgg/video.html
I keep saying there is no way I would pick prime LBJ vs prime Larry Bird!! the guy was hustler, a fierce competitor and a great shooter. He would be my small forward on the greatest team of all time. No disrespect for LBJ, Scottie or other great players that I might forget but Larry was something else.
Jordan always beat bird one on one even in college while bird was NBA but there's this team factor and even though Jordan was one of the best passers bird had a complete team and that team factor comes into effect. But had the Celtics run into the bulls from 1988 threw 1990 Jordan wins one on one and has the team factor on his side. Bird and Celtics couldn't beat Jordan when Pippin and Grant played even there rookie season
I love me a Bird but you gotta understand that Jordan was in a different atmosphere than any of these dudes.BUT he couldnt get it done till pippen learned defense and fast breaks. bird/parish/mchale/DJ the greatest defender of MJ and still MJ shined like a diamond but in 48 minutes it wasnt even celtics was superior...Jordan/woolridge/corzine/oakley LUL
@@arvinsosmena1086 You are HIGH! Birds Celtics were LAST in the league when he joined! It was LARRY BIRD HIMSELF that brought that team up! No Parish, No McHale, No Ainge or DJ! Bird turned that team from a 29 win team to a 61 win team BY HIMSELF!! Magic had Kareem from the gate.
Bird owned Jordan 23-11 in total Celts/Bulls matchups. Boston had a much better team the first three years, and the Bulls had a championship team at the end.
TheRattler33 Bird came in and won a championship with the prior years worse team. How long did it take Jordan? And ONLY once the likes of Larry retired. I lived it...we were never worried about a player like MJ because he hadn't learned to be a team player. In contrast, both Bird and Magic knew how to win in a team atmosphere. Bird and Magic made their teammates better than they may have been without.
And to add on, as great as people wanna perceive George Gervin to be, he wasn't an All-Star in 1986 as the 1985-1986 Bulls were 21-43 without Jordan. And before Jordan's 3rd season in the league kicked off, the Bulls lost George Gervin, Orlando Woolridge, Sidney Green, Quintin Dailey and Kyle Macy and didn't sign anyone close to those players they lost. The best players they managed to signed that played 60 or more games were rookie Brad Sellers, Mike Brown & Elston Turner and all the other players they signed played around 44 or fewer games that season, namely Cureton, Threatt & Waiters. And even with a depleted roster, the 1986-1987 Bulls went 40-42 and made the play-offs. The Bulls were ECF contenders for two consecutive seasons before Pippen became an All-Star and even after he was selected as an All-Star for the first time in 1990, he didn't play anywhere close to an All-Star level in the post-season overall, especially during the 1990 ECF, where the Bulls got eliminated by the Pistons in game 7. Pippen is one of the two NBA players who got selected into the Dream Team years before he even won his first All-NBA First Team selection. And he was given the nod in the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996, while players like Bob McAdoo & Dominique Wilkins were not selected. Jordan was the only player on the Bulls that was a perennial All Star/All NBA/All Defense when the Bulls made it to 3 CONSECUTIVE ECFs, 1 Finals & won an ECF & a championship title. And that's a fact, going on a really low standard of defining a player as perennial All-Star/All-NBA/All-Defense. One with higher standards or one that goes by the book & the true definition of the word 'perennial', will never consider Pippen as a player that was a perennial All-Star/All-NBA/All-Defense when the Bulls made it 5 CONSECUTIVE ECFs, 3 CONSECUTIVE Finals & won 3 consecutive ECF & 3 consecutive championships, simply because he had only 2 All-NBA selection by the end of the 1993 play-offs.
***** You seem to forget Bird's first year, The celts went from 29 wins to 60. No parrish/McHale etc. Did Jordan ever get 60 wins with the nobodies he had in 85-87?
acorn sucks Bringing up Larry Bird's rookie season and giving him all the credit for his team transformation is ridiculous and shows how much knowledge you lack. The Celtics had Tom Sanders as head coach, who was fired the same year he was hired and then they had Dave Cowens take over, and if you didn't know he was trying to be a coach for the first time on the NBA level WHILE he was still on the roster as a player for the Celtics. That team didn't have a legit head coach to begin with and to compare their regular season record to the very next season where they had a legit head coach in Bill Fitch and claim the disparity in wins is due to Larry Bird's insertion into the roster, shows much ignorance. Bird was drafted into a team that had two active and current All-Stars and played during a time where the league has fewer talent and cocaine addiction was more prevalent. Larry Bird, was drafted during the 1978 NBA Draft as the 6th pick. No one on that draft is a Hall-of-Fame inductee or one of the 50 players chosen as the 50 greatest NBA players of all-time during the NBA 50th Anniversary celebration, besides Larry Bird himself. Bernard King, Earvin Johnson & Adrian Dantley were the peers who made their debut a year before and after Bird's debut that were of Hall-of-Fame caliber but only Magic was top 50 greatest & Hall-of-Fame caliber. Now go compare them with the top talents from the '83, '84, '85 NBA Draft. There's Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley John Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullin, Karl Malone, Joe Dumars and many others are not inducted into the Hall-of-Fame who were All-Star talents at some point. It's not even close. It's absurd for anyone to claim Jordan didn't do as well as Bird just based on the fact that Bird's team had more success in relation to his respective competition. Both of them started their careers in vastly different scenarios & different competition. That's why Bird's team never even came close enough to win 70 games in a single regular season with the Celtics. His team's highest single regular season record was 67-15 and that was during Bird, McHale, Parish & Ainge's prime with multiple other Hall-of-Fame talents who were serviceable. The 1979-1980 Celtics was vastly inferior in comparison with the 1985-1986 Celtics and yet the Celtics were able to win 61-21 in 1979-1980 season.
It is pointless enough to bring up a team's record from one season and compare it to the next or previous season without addressing any key differential factors. And to go beyond that and use that analogy to form another one by comparing a different team from a different time, makes even less sense.
I think Bird is 2nd best ever but I can’t put him over MJ. But it’s pretty close, you’ll get several chips with both. MJs athleticism is just ridiculous though.
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 I have Magic, Bird, Chamberlain, Bill Russell, John Hondo ahead of MJ. There’s a ton of athletes in the game but none other like Wilt !
@@southwest1988 I think it depends on the team. I would put MJ over anyone on a team that is already good but needs a scoring closer and defensive stopper. But for a team that is bad and wants to make the playoffs I'd say the players you mentioned have a case. Wilt was a freak but he was also not clutch. Still one of the goats.
All the Bird fanboys can make themselves feel better about defeating a team with a losing record. Because we know what happens when Bird has to face teams that are as stacked as his. He gets his ass handed to him. >Couldn't knock Dr. J off of the ladder from 1980-1983, had to wait until he was on the decline. >Couldn't defeat Magic in college when both had the best teams in the league. And couldn't win a feud against him in the NBA finals when they both had the top teams in the league. >Couldn't maintain his spot at the top of the conference against the Bad Boy Pistons. Struggled to defeat them in 7 games Makes sense you would want to applaud him for feasting on weak team. How else could you justify your likability to your white GOD. lol
@@x-man9473 Try harder. Jordan AINT ALL THAT. “Defeating a team with a losing record” 😂😂😂😂 He did it when he had a mushy spine & Jordan had Pippen too! And Larry handed EVERY superstar their ass! Including Dr. J & Kareem! Cry a River douchebag.
Jordan could not win shit, till bird magic, and the great left, or got old, 80s teams to good, and the Jordan rule in 1991, because the bad boy pistons, he cried got the rules changed
You realize the teams like the Knicks were starting to out pistons them with violent and injuring causing play. The league would have turned Bush league with violence as the method of play.
@@theephraimite I will help you out, goggle NBA RULES CHANGES.COM, If Jordan played today there be no hand checking,Read you might learn something, I got to watch the NBA, games, IN the 60 they made rules to make it harder for The Great WILT
Chris Roberts, there is just one rule because of Wilt, which ain't much. Same thing with Jordan. You could still drive, dribble, dunk and shoot, which Jordan could beat all at.
Gosh, how Bird shoots so smooth from everywhere on the court
Larry Bird is the Greatest SF of All-time.
Michael Jordan is the Greatest player of All-time#23#33
FACTS
Dirk nowitzki & Nikola jokic& luka doncic would've score 50s points playing against Larry bird especially broken back Larry bird
String music???(for a swish shot).. dude called it string music. I've never heard that one before. Love it!
I think Bird, the basketball genius that he is, already saw in a rookie Jordan, what we know now as the GOAT and wanted to send a message and take on the challenge of going head to head against him.
Ok so what if Bird saw it , can’t u see and make your own decision ? We don’t give a flying freak what Bird thought 😂😂
@@donbutler149 "We"???
My two GOATS.
Pro tip: watch series at kaldrostream. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies these days.
@Damian Preston Yea, I have been using kaldroStream for months myself =)
Jordan looked like a rookie in these highlights. Also he changed his shooting form by the end of his career. Just another example of a great player always adding and working on their game.
he is still indeed a rookie in this game. He was drafted 1984 . His first game was on Oct 26, 1984.
2:19 "Blocked by the rim!"
Ahhh yes, good old 80's NBA basketball 😝😆
Jordan hold his own rookie against a super team LeBron James couldn't do that
U got that right
What does Lebron gotta do with the video, he must live rent free in your head
Fact
He has done that
@@setira8081 Bull! LeBron had help
When you look back at what shoe technology was like, the floor construction, you get an even bigger appreciation of how incredible MJ was. It was really hard on their knees/feet compared to today, and body recovery tech wasnt nearly as good yet he only got hurt once and came back quicker than anyone could have.
I played with the o.g. Jordans and on 1980s floors. The shoes were slightly heavier; the floors were the same.
I want to see college player play with the NBA superstar and see what they can do, Mj is exceptional that's why he's the GOAT
Hey! Marty Glickman is announcing this game. He was the first legendary voice of the NBA. This guy helped along Johnny Most and Marv Albert in their careers. Also of note, Marty was a track and field star. He and another Jewish member of the U.S. Team were removed at the last minute from the 1936 Olympics in Berlin (the Hitler Olympics) and he was replaced by Jesse Owens.
If Michael jordan had a hakeem olajuwon he would of won about 5 more championships....he was basically alone in the first pro years..Celtics pistons lakers were loaded
MJ is #1. Bird may be #2. he was a great shooter and had exceptional b-ball IQ. but MJ was faster and stronger in his prime and developed a fadeaway that was unstoppable. It's hard to rank all-time greats with the different eras that are played in.. the game was played different in almost every era, which sometimes caused an inflation in certain stats. Also, as time has gone, players gradually are getting bigger, faster, stronger. the game is also officiated much different now. the 80's officiating, coupled with his never ending work ethic, an not to mention natural athletic ability sat 6'6 is why he is GOAT. The players now, physically are superior, but as far as fundamentals and the WILL to win, the 80's and 90's NBA is also the GOAT. The NBA now is a joke. a lot of it is how it's officiated, but the players just aren't the same. these are regular season games that had a playoff type atmosphere. sorry to say, NBA will never be the same.
Derek McFarland NBA better nowadays and it's not even close
- today's game is just commercialization. It has some merits but overall, the product sucks and that's evident in the arenas alone. It was better before - period.
@@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t 3 point contest with less defensive work now more than actual rivalries and wars on a basketball court in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's. Yes friends teaming up now and everyone looking for money here and there. Its only better for players today but in the past it was better for the fans.
@Rap Lawyer Bird had faster hands than Jordan, and mind.
Bird was rare and air was pure*
Dave Corzine highlight reel
Damn,bird was a beast,too bad for his back problems.Jordan roty no doubt!
As great as a defender as Celtics guard Dennis Johnson was, he could not guard Michael Jordan. Jordan kept blowing past Johnson. Man, MJ was quick as a cat off the dribble...he was explosive 😳
I was born the same year, Michael Jordan was drafted.
06:58 the missed alley opp was incredible.Watch it in slow motion to see better how High it was.
Nobody threw the full court football pass better than Larry Bird !!
Jordan and Bird are both legends. The only difference is Jordan was more athletic. Other than that, they were equally fierce competitors.
The difference is their team Jordan has shit team from 84 to 88!Bird and Magic had a great team from the start of their careers!
@@arvinsosmena1086 what are you on about, not from the start of their careers. Celtics had a 29-53 record the year before Bird came, bottom of the Eastern Conference. They only had a winning record only against the Pacers and the Knicks that year (with Tiny, Cornbread, Cowens).
He took that same team and turned them into a 61-21, top of the Eastern Conference. Bird had the most points, made the most FGs (47% shooting), shot 40% from the 3P line, had the most rebounds, most steals, second in assists (behind Tiny), second in blocks (behind Cornbread and Cowens tied for first) and had the most turnovers. That's how good Bird's rookie season was.
Bird was smarter than Jordan, a better passer, and better shooter.
Counter Strike, not sure about smarter. Bird was a better three-point shooter, I’m quite sure about that. As for passing, Jordan didn’t need to pass as much since he could he could easily beat the defense with his speed, athleticism and highly developed fadeaway and mid-range jumper. But other than that, like I said, they were both equally competitive.
@@theephraimite Most experts would agree that Bird would be smarter than just about any, and yes he was a better passer than Jordan, even Lebron has said that Bird had no flaws in his game. Bird did things that no one did, Jordan was yes more athletic and could palm the ball, and was also a decent shooter. Pat Riley said, if I had to pick a player to win a game, I'd choose Jordan, if I had to pick a player to save my life, I'd choose Bird. I grew up watching Bird, so I saw games that are not available on youtube, he did something astonishing every game. His hand eye coordination was insane, he could just flick and touch passes where ever he wanted. Even Magic didn't quite show this kind of dexterity. czcams.com/video/wwo4vtaZmsY/video.html
Bird was terrific!!!
Why did they play this at the Civic Centre?
They played there several times a year every year.
i was in army at that time
9:40 its 1985 it sounded like somebody yelled T-Mobile 😂
R Marley 😂😂😂😂🤣
@@danielrosario1703 you heard that bro? I think we caught another Glitch in th Matrix 😭🤣😂😭
Kareem: Larry Bird may have been the best player I ever played against, czcams.com/video/rbVJAp7Mg1U/video.html
Kareem: Larry Bird could do anything. Oscar Robertson was scary. Wilt Chamberlain was unbelievable. czcams.com/video/D13Jlm8EQjU/video.html
"Larry, you only told me one lie.
You said there will be another Larry Bird.
Larry, there will never, ever be another Larry Bird."
- Magic Johnson, 1992 speech made in Boston in honor of Larry Bird
“Larry has a way of making everybody he comes into contact with a better person. A pure American of the highest character as reported in Sports Illustrated: "Bob Woolf, Larry Bird's attorney, brings out a hotel bill dated April 6, 1979. .... Now, the most illuminating thing in this whole saga is that hotel bill from 1979. You see, except for the basic room charge and the tax, there was nothing else on it. No room service, no restaurant charge, no long-distance phone calls, no nothing. Having dealt with many other athletes, Woolf naturally assumed that the kid would charge at will. But that wasn't how Larry Joe Bird was raised back in French Lick, Indiana. ‘Larry has a way of making everybody he comes into contact with a better person,’ Woolf says. ‘If you think the Larry Bird on the court has character and is unselfish-well, off the court he's even more so.’ Among those who know Bird well, the same catalog of qualities is cited again and again: honest, loyal, steadfast, dependable-his existence shaped by the contradictory, almost mystical ability to be the cynosure, yet always to contribute to those around him. Mel Daniels, who was an assistant coach at Indiana State when Bird played there, said it best: ‘It's like a piece of Larry goes to each player by the things he does.’ Tony Clark, a Terre Haute radio executive who grew up with Bird, says, ‘Larry epitomizes the word friend. Do you understand that?’ Yes. ‘Then you really don't have to know anything else about him.’” (Sports Illustrated 1988, Frank Deford, “A Player For The Ages,” Sports Illustrated, Time, Inc., New York, New York, March 21, 1988)
"The guy was a basketball genius who had a mask of "a hick from French Lick" out as his calling card. But if you believed that for one second, you were going to get beaten."
- Dr. Julius Erving, Televised interview published September 12, 2011, czcams.com/video/uxbDdnm3F1A/video.html
Larry Bird - The Greatest, czcams.com/video/rgPpTvX86n8/video.html
Larry Bird Greatest Passer of All Time
czcams.com/video/CExjzyTRxnQ/video.html
Larry Bird: The Art of Passing
czcams.com/video/C727koGJaPo/video.html
Career Retrospective- Dennis Johnson, Lone Star Outlaw, Feb 24, 2007, czcams.com/video/n8sAyIZiPJ0/video.html
Dennis Johnson's Basketball Hall of Fame Enshrinement Speech, OfficialHoophall, Feb 17, 2012, czcams.com/video/SlYYZTQpdAk/video.html
Dennis Johnson to Larry Bird Tribute - Basketball Chemistry (The Secret Play), The Book of Basketball, Oct 6, 2015, czcams.com/video/tQYs5rsSud0/video.html
Larry Bird 1985 Interview, Just Win Today - Daily Motivation, Sep 10, 2017, czcams.com/video/dcJCybL6jgg/video.html
Jordan's greatest contribution to basketball was making those short shorts go away.
They weren’t guarding each other 😂
I keep saying there is no way I would pick prime LBJ vs prime Larry Bird!! the guy was hustler, a fierce competitor and a great shooter. He would be my small forward on the greatest team of all time. No disrespect for LBJ, Scottie or other great players that I might forget but Larry was something else.
then you would have lost.
People forget how great Bird was
feliz bautizo al novato.
Zero free throws for Bird in this game.
Full games pls
Why was this not in Bawston Gawdens?
Celtics used to play about 3 of their games in Hartford at the civic center. I’ve seen them play the knicks there before since I’m from CT
If you ask me bird was lighting Jordan up this game
2021
Jordan always beat bird one on one even in college while bird was NBA but there's this team factor and even though Jordan was one of the best passers bird had a complete team and that team factor comes into effect. But had the Celtics run into the bulls from 1988 threw 1990 Jordan wins one on one and has the team factor on his side. Bird and Celtics couldn't beat Jordan when Pippin and Grant played even there rookie season
2:12😂😂😂
first of all IMO everyone who says bird is GOAT is wrong MJ is GOAT but GODDAMMIT ill take Bird over Lebitch anyday of week
Jorden looks like he was nervous
I love me a Bird but you gotta understand that Jordan was in a different atmosphere than any of these dudes.BUT he couldnt get it done till pippen learned defense and fast breaks. bird/parish/mchale/DJ the greatest defender of MJ and still MJ shined like a diamond but in 48 minutes it wasnt even celtics was superior...Jordan/woolridge/corzine/oakley LUL
Agree on that MJ had a shit team from the start of his career unlike Bird and Magic who had a great team with allstars from the start..
He couldn’t get it done until Bird retired. Get it right.
@@arvinsosmena1086
You are HIGH! Birds Celtics were LAST in the league when he joined! It was LARRY BIRD HIMSELF that brought that team up! No Parish, No McHale, No Ainge or DJ! Bird turned that team from a 29 win team to a 61 win team BY HIMSELF!!
Magic had Kareem from the gate.
@@irishgrl boston was stacked ..pippen a baby. but yeah ok i get it.
@@irishgrl If I remember correctly Bird retired in 1992. The league back in late 70s wasn’t as good as mid 80s. This is another fact.
Bird owned Jordan 23-11 in total Celts/Bulls matchups. Boston had a much better team the first three years, and the Bulls had a championship team at the end.
TheRattler33 Bird came in and won a championship with the prior years worse team. How long did it take Jordan? And ONLY once the likes of Larry retired. I lived it...we were never worried about a player like MJ because he hadn't learned to be a team player. In contrast, both Bird and Magic knew how to win in a team atmosphere. Bird and Magic made their teammates better than they may have been without.
And to add on, as great as people wanna perceive George Gervin to be, he wasn't an All-Star in 1986 as the 1985-1986 Bulls were 21-43 without Jordan. And before Jordan's 3rd season in the league kicked off, the Bulls lost George Gervin, Orlando Woolridge, Sidney Green, Quintin Dailey and Kyle Macy and didn't sign anyone close to those players they lost. The best players they managed to signed that played 60 or more games were rookie Brad Sellers, Mike Brown & Elston Turner and all the other players they signed played around 44 or fewer games that season, namely Cureton, Threatt & Waiters. And even with a depleted roster, the 1986-1987 Bulls went 40-42 and made the play-offs.
The Bulls were ECF contenders for two consecutive seasons before Pippen became an All-Star and even after he was selected as an All-Star for the first time in 1990, he didn't play anywhere close to an All-Star level in the post-season overall, especially during the 1990 ECF, where the Bulls got eliminated by the Pistons in game 7. Pippen is one of the two NBA players who got selected into the Dream Team years before he even won his first All-NBA First Team selection. And he was given the nod in the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996, while players like Bob McAdoo & Dominique Wilkins were not selected.
Jordan was the only player on the Bulls that was a perennial All Star/All NBA/All Defense when the Bulls made it to 3 CONSECUTIVE ECFs, 1 Finals & won an ECF & a championship title. And that's a fact, going on a really low standard of defining a player as perennial All-Star/All-NBA/All-Defense. One with higher standards or one that goes by the book & the true definition of the word 'perennial', will never consider Pippen as a player that was a perennial All-Star/All-NBA/All-Defense when the Bulls made it 5 CONSECUTIVE ECFs, 3 CONSECUTIVE Finals & won 3 consecutive ECF & 3 consecutive championships, simply because he had only 2 All-NBA selection by the end of the 1993 play-offs.
***** You seem to forget Bird's first year, The celts went from 29 wins to 60. No parrish/McHale etc. Did Jordan ever get 60 wins with the nobodies he had in 85-87?
acorn sucks Bringing up Larry Bird's rookie season and giving him all the credit for his team transformation is ridiculous and shows how much knowledge you lack. The Celtics had Tom Sanders as head coach, who was fired the same year he was hired and then they had Dave Cowens take over, and if you didn't know he was trying to be a coach for the first time on the NBA level WHILE he was still on the roster as a player for the Celtics. That team didn't have a legit head coach to begin with and to compare their regular season record to the very next season where they had a legit head coach in Bill Fitch and claim the disparity in wins is due to Larry Bird's insertion into the roster, shows much ignorance.
Bird was drafted into a team that had two active and current All-Stars and played during a time where the league has fewer talent and cocaine addiction was more prevalent.
Larry Bird, was drafted during the 1978 NBA Draft as the 6th pick. No one on that draft is a Hall-of-Fame inductee or one of the 50 players chosen as the 50 greatest NBA players of all-time during the NBA 50th Anniversary celebration, besides Larry Bird himself.
Bernard King, Earvin Johnson & Adrian Dantley were the peers who made their debut a year before and after Bird's debut that were of Hall-of-Fame caliber but only Magic was top 50 greatest & Hall-of-Fame caliber. Now go compare them with the top talents from the '83, '84, '85 NBA Draft. There's Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley John Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullin, Karl Malone, Joe Dumars and many others are not inducted into the Hall-of-Fame who were All-Star talents at some point. It's not even close.
It's absurd for anyone to claim Jordan didn't do as well as Bird just based on the fact that Bird's team had more success in relation to his respective competition. Both of them started their careers in vastly different scenarios & different competition. That's why Bird's team never even came close enough to win 70 games in a single regular season with the Celtics. His team's highest single regular season record was 67-15 and that was during Bird, McHale, Parish & Ainge's prime with multiple other Hall-of-Fame talents who were serviceable. The 1979-1980 Celtics was vastly inferior in comparison with the 1985-1986 Celtics and yet the Celtics were able to win 61-21 in 1979-1980 season.
It is pointless enough to bring up a team's record from one season and compare it to the next or previous season without addressing any key differential factors. And to go beyond that and use that analogy to form another one by comparing a different team from a different time, makes even less sense.
BIRD over Jordan any dam day!!! Especially In their prime!!!
Jordan was a rookie on this vid.. His prime was 91-98.. Are you sure about what youre saying??
@@alikbey yes I’m very sure basketball is a team game and none of the Jordan bulls teams would beat the 80s Celtics !
I think Bird is 2nd best ever but I can’t put him over MJ. But it’s pretty close, you’ll get several chips with both. MJs athleticism is just ridiculous though.
@@dfdfdgggjhjjh5081 I have Magic, Bird, Chamberlain, Bill Russell, John Hondo ahead of MJ. There’s a ton of athletes in the game but none other like Wilt !
@@southwest1988 I think it depends on the team. I would put MJ over anyone on a team that is already good but needs a scoring closer and defensive stopper. But for a team that is bad and wants to make the playoffs I'd say the players you mentioned have a case. Wilt was a freak but he was also not clutch. Still one of the goats.
Jorden passed alot I think he was scared of Larry
5:37 faul???
who won
115-105 Celtics.
Bird won, the end
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Bird was an all around player, Jordan wasn't. Bird was a leader; Jordan was not. Jordan got his fall away shooting from LARRY LEGEND.
Larry Bird Would Strongly Disagree With Your Point. And Would Question Your B Ball I.Q.....
And here Jordan was a rook, and Bird was not. Jordan was indeed a leader as Bird was. And Jordan is the G.O.A.T, and Bird is not....just sayin
Jordan beat bird while he was in College during the 8 games they played USA vs NBA all stars in 84..
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Wanna bet?
Bird swept Jordan twice the playoffs. And was a superior player to Jordan in many areas of the game. Just sayin
LeBron and Jabbar co #1s
Chamberlain 3rd
MAGIC 4th
Russell5th
Oscar6th.
Larry Bird much better than Mikael Gordon at this point.
, I'm the best fucking shooter in the LEAGUE , Larry Bird
bird papa de jordan jajajajajajjaj
All the Jordan fanboys can console each other about their hero LOSING. BWAHAHAHAAAAAA
All the Bird fanboys can make themselves feel better about defeating a team with a losing record. Because we know what happens when Bird has to face teams that are as stacked as his. He gets his ass handed to him.
>Couldn't knock Dr. J off of the ladder from 1980-1983, had to wait until he was on the decline.
>Couldn't defeat Magic in college when both had the best teams in the league. And couldn't win a feud against him in the NBA finals when they both had the top teams in the league.
>Couldn't maintain his spot at the top of the conference against the Bad Boy Pistons. Struggled to defeat them in 7 games
Makes sense you would want to applaud him for feasting on weak team. How else could you justify your likability to your white GOD. lol
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Try harder. Jordan AINT ALL THAT.
“Defeating a team with a losing record” 😂😂😂😂
He did it when he had a mushy spine & Jordan had Pippen too!
And Larry handed EVERY superstar their ass! Including Dr. J & Kareem!
Cry a River douchebag.
Jordan could not win shit, till bird magic, and the great left, or got old, 80s teams to good, and the Jordan rule in 1991, because the bad boy pistons, he cried got the rules changed
You realize the teams like the Knicks were starting to out pistons them with violent and injuring causing play. The league would have turned Bush league with violence as the method of play.
Chris Roberts, what rules were changed?
Look them up, are you 4 real,
@@theephraimite I will help you out, goggle NBA RULES CHANGES.COM, If Jordan played today there be no hand checking,Read you might learn something, I got to watch the NBA, games, IN the 60 they made rules to make it harder for The Great WILT
Chris Roberts, there is just one rule because of Wilt, which ain't much. Same thing with Jordan. You could still drive, dribble, dunk and shoot, which Jordan could beat all at.
Larry bird was shit compared to Jordan. Jordan was a rookie and better.
Bird > Jordan
therealist811 clearly, you are.
Playoff record, head-to-head: Bird 6, Jordan 0.
We practically watched the whole game and Bird was clearly better,. And I’m a Jordan fan.
@8:42 Larry bird talking to trash to Michael Jordan but can’t tell what he’s saying
just little comfued MJ in the first against celtics..larry smooth shooter