The Helldiver Corps - Helldivers Lore

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  • čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
  • Join us on a tour of the Helldiver Corps and Super Earth in this Helldivers lore video. Learn more about the world and story of Helldivers 2 and the brave soldiers who fight to protect Super Earth!
    From the rich history of the Helldiver Corps to the current state of affairs on Super Earth, this video will give you a deeper understanding of the world of Helldivers. This tour is a must-watch for anyone interested in Helldivers lore!
    0:00 Intro
    0:32 Flight
    1:11 Super Earth
    1:45 Managed Democracy
    2:25 Culture
    3:51 Cyborgs, Bugs, Illuminates
    8:18 The Helldivers
    11:00 Galactic War
    11:40 Are We The Baddies?
    14:00 Outro
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    Twitter: @lore_tours / lore_tours
    All music used comes from Epidemic Sound www.epidemicsound.com
    Stock Imagery and Footage is from Unsplash
    Video title: The Helldiver Corps and Super Earth - Helldivers Lore Tour #Helldivers #Helldivers2
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  • @LoreTours
    @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +594

    Who wins in a fight, a team of Helldivers or an ODST Squad?

    • @collinthegamer510
      @collinthegamer510 Před 4 měsíci +150

      The helldivers obviously

    • @k_balu-8104
      @k_balu-8104 Před 4 měsíci +76

      Helldivers quite easily

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 Před 4 měsíci +242

      That depends on if one of the Helldivers accidently drops a call in on their squad at the start.

    • @BoyBacon5051
      @BoyBacon5051 Před 4 měsíci +148

      I think ODST's. I don't know much about the universe but it looks like Helldiver's are the basic ground forces that are meant to be expendable. Seeing the large numbers in Helldiver deaths. ODST's arnt called Imps for nothing.

    • @collinthegamer510
      @collinthegamer510 Před 4 měsíci +162

      @@BoyBacon5051 Helldivers are the most elite unit in the SEAF, but there is a huge amount of them so they’re considered expendable.

  • @clfcks
    @clfcks Před 4 měsíci +3218

    Very good video, but the "Are we the baddies" section seems very undemocratic .. filing a report to ministry of truth as we speak

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +351

      😟

    • @somethingspecial6255
      @somethingspecial6255 Před 4 měsíci +229

      just filed a report to my local Democracy Officer myself, just to be safe of course.

    • @multiversepatriot3148
      @multiversepatriot3148 Před 4 měsíci +179

      Citizen, your vigilance is appreciated, but you need to file with the Ministry of Humanity, Department of Internal Affairs.
      So I am filing a report on you now for suspicious ignorance of Super Earth protocols.

    • @AC-iz7eh
      @AC-iz7eh Před 4 měsíci +25

      This is treason! 😂

    • @peterjohnstone7867
      @peterjohnstone7867 Před 4 měsíci

      Good call, clearly LoreTours needs a round of reeducation

  • @donk8961
    @donk8961 Před 4 měsíci +1562

    The best thing about being a helldiver is imagining my character as a white collar worker who went through a midlife crisis and believes he's invincible after clearing helldiver training in only 2 minutes.

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +170

      Ultimate self confidence

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Před 4 měsíci +84

      In defense of midlife crisis commandos everywhere....Johnny Rico's dad did join the Mobile Infantry after the bugs pasted Buenos Aires and his wife. In Heinlein's canonical book version, obviously.

    • @EchoLeague2
      @EchoLeague2 Před 4 měsíci +20

      Lmao I imagined mine as a disgruntled school janitor

    • @ZCid47
      @ZCid47 Před 4 měsíci +14

      and then he gets shoot in his first or second diving, like a real helldiver

    • @anthonyortiz350
      @anthonyortiz350 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThingWait his dad survived 🤯 did they at least find each other again?

  • @youthoughtaboutit6946
    @youthoughtaboutit6946 Před 4 měsíci +3383

    Get the feeling that the vast majority of politicians in present day would absolutely support officially instituting a “managed democracy” if they could get away with it.

    • @GusOfTheDorks
      @GusOfTheDorks Před 4 měsíci +136

      Eh, wouldnt be that bad. 90% of this video was actually law shortly after basically everyone was given the right to vote in the 20s and 30s.

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +397

      Feel like the devs realised that and really leant into it haha

    • @dominator146
      @dominator146 Před 4 měsíci

      America is a managed democracy. We only have two choices when voting red or blue

    • @HateMailPersonified
      @HateMailPersonified Před 4 měsíci

      I got news for you - we already live in a managed democracy.

    • @adammauer6424
      @adammauer6424 Před 4 měsíci

      Democrats been doing it for some time now , although most of us just consider it communism with a touch of authoritarianism

  • @dahSweep
    @dahSweep Před 4 měsíci +1005

    I feel like you missed some important parts here, mainly that Helldivers 2 takes place a century after the first game. After the events of the first game, Earth won against the Illuminates, "liberated" their technology, and used it to colonize the galaxy using FTL travel. At this time the Helldivers where disbanded and no longer deployed. It was only much later, when the previously thought to be defeated cyborgs came back (now as fully mechanized automatons) and the terminids escaped the oil farms and started wreaking havoc, that they were reinstated and brought back into action.

    • @MisterZimbabwe
      @MisterZimbabwe Před 4 měsíci +209

      Damn, the super advanced aliens with shield tech and ftl tech lost to a bunch of poorly equipped, barely trained, brainwashed space-americans?

    • @dabbingraccoons6416
      @dabbingraccoons6416 Před 4 měsíci +31

      Exactly

    • @AC-iz7eh
      @AC-iz7eh Před 4 měsíci +96

      The aliens weren't a warring species like humans are so them losing is lore accurate I guess?

    • @codyraugh6599
      @codyraugh6599 Před 4 měsíci +102

      @@AC-iz7eh also you can infer that their government is more insular and they are actually from another galaxy, so this is more or less their frontier rather than the core of their empire.

    • @fashionsuckman4652
      @fashionsuckman4652 Před 4 měsíci +60

      ​@@MisterZimbabwethe power of democracy baby

  • @ribsi85
    @ribsi85 Před 4 měsíci +2370

    I like to imagine the 5 minute tutorial at the start of the game is the actual complete training for helldivers.
    They're given a vague idea of how to use their equipment, told they're invincible and basically the best recruit ever by some mindless recording, and sent out to uhh... Be heroes.

    • @OnionThyme
      @OnionThyme Před 4 měsíci +356

      To be fair, that is all the training the player gets, so in a meta sense, yeah, that's all the training helldivers get

    • @someidiotnamedtricks6397
      @someidiotnamedtricks6397 Před 4 měsíci

      Also to be fair, it's stated they are recruited from the other branches as well

    • @lolroflroflcakes
      @lolroflroflcakes Před 4 měsíci +287

      Technically if a helldiver is trained on the job the government can boast about the length, difficulty and comprehensiveness of the helldiver training program.
      "The Helldivers comprise only the top 1% of all applicants." The public doesn't need to know that the training program is actually just being deployed into actual combat, hopefully alongside a more experienced diver, an arbitrary number of times before you are consider to have "graduated" from the program. Plus it would be hard to train them for the sheer variety of tasks and environments they may be required to attend to in an interstellar war, its easier to just let nature take its course and you've clearly failed because you lack the qualities Super Earth expects of its sons and daughters if you get eaten.
      The cryogenic storage is definitely because of the sheer value of each individual helldiver and definitely not because the public should be kept in the dark about their untrained and inexperienced nature. After all look at how cool they look in the posters they couldn't possibly be cannon fodder.

    • @dxun7596
      @dxun7596 Před 4 měsíci +159

      After starting the game, post tutorial you step out of a cryopod, when you join another squad you step out of your cryopod. Each time a reinforcement is called a new you is defrosted and dropped into the battle. That means there are thousands of copies of "you" in storage. The tutorial can be thought of as your first defrosting, to remind you of the basics. Each time you die you retain your memories and, are effectively an immortal being. dive, die, dive again, and again, and again until liberty is spread across the galaxy.
      My headcannon is that each "player" is an elite helldiver who has seen thousands of battles. Unless you didn't play the first game, and answered the recruitment call. Then you're a hero in training.
      I love democracy.

    • @scoutwaffle6125
      @scoutwaffle6125 Před 4 měsíci +210

      ​@@dxun7596 Nah dawg every helldiver deployed is a different person, u arent a single guy, u are an army

  • @nonyabeeznuss304
    @nonyabeeznuss304 Před 4 měsíci +183

    General Brash told me automatons keep eating his helldivers so I asked how many helldivers he has. He said he just goes down to the shelter and gets a new diver afterwards so I said it sounds like he is just feeding shelter divers to automatons and his democracy officer started crying...

    • @maplemayhem1988
      @maplemayhem1988 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Reminds me of a funny story about my neighbors cats

  • @chumby2447
    @chumby2447 Před 4 měsíci +892

    One of the main reasons I’ve fallen in love with Helldivers 2 and Helldivers as a whole is because I KNOW that there’s more to it then is led on and that we aren’t the main character and just another cog in the machine, that’s why there’s no character creation, you don’t “respawn” another Diver is just sent to replace you.

    • @heliveruscalion9124
      @heliveruscalion9124 Před 4 měsíci +89

      honestly with the cryo tubes i like to think there's a cloning system where you "are" the same person, which is why you have the same gear

    • @seth12786
      @seth12786 Před 4 měsíci +102

      ​@@heliveruscalion9124if u leave everything default,you get a random voice from the 4 available every death

    • @loganroderick4539
      @loganroderick4539 Před 4 měsíci +93

      @@heliveruscalion9124 I think of it more like your ship is like a regiment of Divers so you all wear the same gear.

    • @barnstormer546
      @barnstormer546 Před 4 měsíci +76

      ​@@heliveruscalion9124It's so sweet that you think they care enough to clone you

    • @TexGaming
      @TexGaming Před 4 měsíci +12

      It's the same appeal that 40k has

  • @bumboy5348
    @bumboy5348 Před 4 měsíci +364

    I feel like the Liber-tea line gets played 10 times more than any other voice quip

    • @OPTIMUMELITE
      @OPTIMUMELITE Před 4 měsíci +23

      LIBER-TEA

    • @dabbingraccoons6416
      @dabbingraccoons6416 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I have played 8 hours and have not heard it yet

    • @azulovesyou2
      @azulovesyou2 Před 4 měsíci +11

      I get it EVERY TIME I throw a grenade. It's so funny

    • @itsniko9561
      @itsniko9561 Před 4 měsíci +9

      It’s a grenade specific line
      So, respectfully, if you don’t like it: stop throwing grenades all the damn time

    • @bumboy5348
      @bumboy5348 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@itsniko9561 who said i dont like it?

  • @k_balu-8104
    @k_balu-8104 Před 4 měsíci +303

    The end seems quite undemocratic, i think the Ministry of Truth would like to see this

    • @boxlions2073
      @boxlions2073 Před 4 měsíci +4

      1984?

    • @NekoLilium2012
      @NekoLilium2012 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@boxlions2073 Yup, and the game entry cinematic scene is supported by Super Earth ministry of Truth. It even showed it upfront in the very beginning.

    • @hydradiagonal3404
      @hydradiagonal3404 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@boxlions2073the devs set the year setting to 2084 (I guess that’s the first game so,Helldivers 2 is in 2184?) yep they know what they’re referencing

  • @jakejohnsen8626
    @jakejohnsen8626 Před 4 měsíci +688

    "Super earth is just propaganda" My brother in christ it worked, triple the defense budget

    • @phiality9070
      @phiality9070 Před 4 měsíci +27

      based

    • @codylujan
      @codylujan Před 4 měsíci +23

      when 4chan gets ahold of a game that is making fun of them

    • @jakejohnsen8626
      @jakejohnsen8626 Před 4 měsíci

      Leftists be like "you don't relate with the brain sucking genocidal bugs? You're literally a nazi"

    • @odsttrooper3724
      @odsttrooper3724 Před 4 měsíci +24

      @@codylujanCry about it

    • @Ben-ek1fz
      @Ben-ek1fz Před 4 měsíci +51

      You’re both wrong^ lol - it’s not ‘making fun of 4Chan’ and there’s nothing to cry about. It’s literally making fun of US Military industrial complex and Military systems as a whole.
      Starship Troopers figured this out 70 years ago as a novel and 20 years ago as a movie

  • @boltodj
    @boltodj Před 4 měsíci +276

    Feels like the love-child of the govt from Starship Troopers and 40k's Imperium of Man.

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju Před 4 měsíci +33

      Politicians starting a 3-front war for personal gain, that is so absurd it is immersion-breaki... (looks at current government) oh wait... governments are that stupid and selfish. This game is completely plausible.

    • @outrider8569
      @outrider8569 Před 4 měsíci +5

      It pretty much is. It so could be a battalion of the imperial guard.

    • @arfbark3924
      @arfbark3924 Před 4 měsíci +8

      It's actually really far from being the Starship Troopers Federation. The Federation is Libertarian.

    • @PaleCrestedWolf
      @PaleCrestedWolf Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@arfbark3924well, yeah, but I think he means the overarching design.
      Watching the video, watch when they try to ram a flag into a bug dome. It’s basically like watching the extras do stuff from starship troopers.
      100% this game is lowkey poking all the fun at the united snakes of America

    • @arfbark3924
      @arfbark3924 Před 4 měsíci

      @@PaleCrestedWolf I absolutely agree but it falls flat at the same time unless you acknowledge the inversion. Super Earth is Space China and Russia stacked up in a Space America trenchcoat.

  • @nathangarcia2356
    @nathangarcia2356 Před 4 měsíci +424

    With birth permits only being for the most patriotic of citizens, I wonder if those chosen for helldivers are cloned en masse and that’s why they are so expendable. Also makes sense why they would freeze you rather than continuing to train their soldiers

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +151

      Good theory, would explain why so many identical troops can be dropped into the battlefield after getting killed by the enemy. Each super destroyer could just contain a giant fridge of frozen clones ready for deployment

    • @PrimusValsar
      @PrimusValsar Před 4 měsíci +46

      A breeding permit is like the 1 child policy in china, but on steroid.

    • @tristanschmidt1239
      @tristanschmidt1239 Před 4 měsíci +17

      I assumed the freezing was for intergalactic travel though I didn't know how there space travel is

    • @justaguy577
      @justaguy577 Před 4 měsíci +40

      @@tristanschmidt1239 faster than light instant travel, you can see it when chosing a mision in other planets

    • @izaiaholer9876
      @izaiaholer9876 Před 4 měsíci +45

      That theory is my head Canon lore. They'd have to flash clone soldiers at the rate they get killed then send teams to recover equipment if possible. Maybe the memories are uploaded in real time to a system on board our super destroyers so the clone remembers what's going on

  • @brutalchaos92
    @brutalchaos92 Před 4 měsíci +222

    Been loving helldivers 1&2 but this makes me want a helldivers RTS

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +61

      Seems almost the perfect universe for a Halo Wars type game, or even a turn based game like XCOM

    • @JH-gu4hj
      @JH-gu4hj Před 4 měsíci +32

      Helldiver's 2 is definitely an RTS, the only thing that makes it different to others is you're the soldier and not the one controlling the army lol..

    • @explosivelemon8261
      @explosivelemon8261 Před 4 měsíci +8

      @@LoreToursbro I want a halo game thats like this! All the enemy types are there, grunts, jackals, elites, brutes, phantom drop ships and wraith tanks. Drop in as a team of odsts or Spartans? Idk I think it would be so sick

    • @WeeWeeJumbo
      @WeeWeeJumbo Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@LoreTours Helldivers is XCOM in real-time

    • @Kyinuda
      @Kyinuda Před 4 měsíci +4

      Its not a rts in any shape or form ​@@JH-gu4hj

  • @Alpha00Fox
    @Alpha00Fox Před 4 měsíci +44

    Just a heads up: Talking with the engineer tells us lots of lore.
    The Illuminates were sent to the far reaches of the galaxy, assumedly without any of that dangerous technology, because they lost and were pacified, the cyborgs were sent to the space mines to work forever, and the bugs were being cultivated on a farm until recently. These past 100 years since the war, with our breeding and experiments, has caused themt to be rather developed. They broke free. Now we have A.I. Atomotons, completly seperate from cyborgs, and the Neo Bugs.
    *ENLIST NOW TO PROTECT FREEDOM!*

    • @sussysam2000
      @sussysam2000 Před 4 měsíci

      It’s only a matter of time until those illuminate bastards return I reckon!

  • @theshitbagsoldier1169
    @theshitbagsoldier1169 Před 4 měsíci +83

    “This channel is being investigated for treason”

  • @prastagus3
    @prastagus3 Před 4 měsíci +263

    I think "oil" in Terminids was retconned in HD2 to a rare resource that were used in Earth's FTL travel engines instead which makes more sense.

    • @codyraugh6599
      @codyraugh6599 Před 4 měsíci +57

      Space oil

    • @dahSweep
      @dahSweep Před 4 měsíci +74

      Yes and no. The oil is indeed used for that purpose, but it still comes from the decomposition of terminids. That is why they farmed them in the first place, and it's from these farms where the terminids now have escaped.

    • @codyraugh6599
      @codyraugh6599 Před 4 měsíci +29

      @@dahSweep before anyone "ats him" as has been proven recently it actually only takes minutes, somewhere between 8 and 30 for fossils to form under naturally occuring conditions such as those seen at a dam break, or sweeping flood.
      oil likewise actually takes a very short time to form, but we've all more or less been lied to about what Oil is (it isn't liquid dinosaur) it's liquid Coral Reef. The armor and excess meat on these bugs if it forms from something similar and they could grow, kill, bury and turn the bugs over "naturally" in a process that could likely start producing oil in as little as a hundred years... Add in sci-fi BS and all the bugs we see on a Helldiver difficulty drop could be made into enough fuel to supply a Super Destroyer for a few months to a year (assuming a similar mass conversion rate and that all the bugs are viable) within as little as a decade.

    • @melonman2064
      @melonman2064 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Plus they look like shrimp and make me hungry, so I wouldn't be suprised if meat is used somehow.

    • @SolyTheGreat
      @SolyTheGreat Před 4 měsíci +5

      i dont believe it has, think it was stated somewhere that once your done with a bug mission a cleaner crew is sent in to collect all the bug bodies for the production of that sweet sweet E-710 at all those refineries the divers helped to get back online

  • @Ashy_Slashy3
    @Ashy_Slashy3 Před 4 měsíci +56

    Never trust the traitorous hippie talk. For Super Earth!

  • @franciscoflorez1051
    @franciscoflorez1051 Před 4 měsíci +49

    This game is literally starship troopers, the video game, and im soooo down for it

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju Před 4 měsíci +9

      Politicians starting a 3-front war for personal gain, that is so absurd it is immersion-breaki... (looks at current government) oh wait... governments are that stupid and selfish. This game is completely plausible.

  • @cadendains8106
    @cadendains8106 Před 4 měsíci +160

    Ah, yes, the Starship Troopers method of not even trying to hide the real life comparisons with that CyberSTAN. XD

  • @taalus2592
    @taalus2592 Před 4 měsíci +56

    Apart from the treasonous sedition at the end of the video, a great watch, especially for someone new to the Helldiver games. Thanks!

  • @OmusKnowsAll
    @OmusKnowsAll Před 4 měsíci +20

    Lore! I don't need to know lore. All I need to know is that, "I'M DOING MY PART!"

  • @A.Musing.Streamer
    @A.Musing.Streamer Před 4 měsíci +468

    Super Earth is 100% the actual Baddies...I love the Satire oozing from this franchise sooooooooo much.

    • @fireball4429
      @fireball4429 Před 4 měsíci +192

      You seem quite undemocratic. might need to report this.

    • @codyraugh6599
      @codyraugh6599 Před 4 měsíci +64

      I'm hoping for a fourth enemy race, a sort of mirror match foe that are just rebel humans, or aliens who fight in a very similar manner to super earth, using chaff infantry and drones to try and pin the helldiver's before their own helldiver equivalents come up from under the ground all decked out in specialized gear

    • @Brotatoooo
      @Brotatoooo Před 4 měsíci +14

      ​@@codyraugh6599 or how about some rebels from super earth or even rogue helldivers

    • @codyraugh6599
      @codyraugh6599 Před 4 měsíci +22

      @@Brotatoooo well rebel humans, since all of humanity belongs to super Earth, that would automatically qualify. But the rogue helldiver's would mean they'd have to have their own super destroyers, which while space station or ship battle maps where you drop onto that sort of terrain would be awesome. Giving them an alternative to recreate the super destroyer effect without having their own super destroyers. both to avoid "well why not just PVP" and to add a narrative feel that these guys are a truly rebel force using creative measures to stand up to the Super Earth government. It also lets the programmers narratively limit the abilities and animations of the Rebels to prevent any system errors and just the hassle of programming AI that is aware of and avoid bombing themselves like players do. Probably by limiting the support abilities to summoning turrets, weapons, gear, and assuming they already have them out by such a point, vehicles.

    • @A.Musing.Streamer
      @A.Musing.Streamer Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@fireball4429 the SES Beacon of Self-Determination is not Undemocratic.......................................... would a bribe keep you quiet? lol

  • @THE_Dildozer.
    @THE_Dildozer. Před 4 měsíci +22

    At 16 you get a Bolt Action rifle in a ceremony? Badass.

    • @Karlach_
      @Karlach_ Před 4 měsíci +8

      Freedom knows no age, only patriots!

  • @LoreTours
    @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +70

    Are ready to enlist with the Helldivers?

    • @cams7757
      @cams7757 Před 4 měsíci +4

      I ready to enlist

    • @NeocrimsonX
      @NeocrimsonX Před 4 měsíci +3

      I'm doing my part and angel's venture has been liberated excellent work divers.

    • @chengdong4124
      @chengdong4124 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I served the Super Earth from the HD, enlisting meself when the HD 2 released!!!!

    • @thegreatoffendo4532
      @thegreatoffendo4532 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Freedom isn't free

    • @congnghequansuvn474
      @congnghequansuvn474 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes, for Space America, I mean Super Earth

  • @slymnasln
    @slymnasln Před 4 měsíci +42

    I'm doing my part!

  • @jacknagel9387
    @jacknagel9387 Před 4 měsíci +253

    Helldivers after watching this video: "Hans...are we the baddies?"

    • @Castitalus
      @Castitalus Před 4 měsíci +73

      That sounds like Treason to me.

    • @jacknagel9387
      @jacknagel9387 Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@Castitalus Have you looked at our capes recently? I've noticed they have Skulls on them.

    • @k_balu-8104
      @k_balu-8104 Před 4 měsíci

      "Don't listen to him Jürgen, he is just a socialist bug lover"

    • @comet3969
      @comet3969 Před 4 měsíci +23

      Did I just read *T R E A S O N*

    • @icecream3265
      @icecream3265 Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@jacknagel9387 That's for protection. Because THE EMPEROR PROTECTS

  • @Kingedwardiii2003
    @Kingedwardiii2003 Před 4 měsíci +19

    Feels like if America went full warhammer mode

  • @knpark2025
    @knpark2025 Před 4 měsíci +28

    Raising this question might send me straight to a MoT black site, but hear me out: Super Earth has FTL. But when Helldivers enters the bridge for the first time they do so by exiting a cryo pod. Why does my character stagger out of a cryo stasis pod if my character doesn't have to wait long for the super destroyer to reach the frontline? Why are there so many cryo pods in the ship? Why can my voice randomly change between two female and two male voices, as if the person inside the suit is chosen randomly from just four phenotypes every time my character is redeployed?
    Is Mars tutorial just a quality control procedure?
    Is a super destroyer secretely a clo-
    [message terminated - Ministry of Truth]

  • @TheCowboyMartyr
    @TheCowboyMartyr Před 4 měsíci +18

    We can’t be the bad guys because is we are then we’re on the bad guys side making us our own good guys

  • @warneverchanges1114
    @warneverchanges1114 Před 4 měsíci +9

    I’m soooo happy someone finally made a video ab this

  • @Agimam
    @Agimam Před 4 měsíci +5

    Helldivers is the Child of Starship Troopers and ODST

  • @3f4gs4s
    @3f4gs4s Před 4 měsíci +5

    *You had me at Democracy*

  • @Mestari1Gaming
    @Mestari1Gaming Před 4 měsíci +65

    Are the Automaton the next evolution for the Cyborgs?

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +53

      Could be a situation where they became more machine than man, and as a result could no longer be classed as a cyborg. Or could just be the Devs fancying a name change for them.

    • @willvermillion1025
      @willvermillion1025 Před 4 měsíci +39

      @@LoreToursi mean its said in hd2 that the terminids are an evolution of the bugs from hd1 so its not a stretch to say the automatons are “evolved” cyborgs.

    • @TheCRAZYEYES1000
      @TheCRAZYEYES1000 Před 4 měsíci +24

      My guess is that the automatons are the cyborgs but after being beaten in helldivers 1 the "human" element was no longer allowed to breed leaving just the robots struggling to cope fully (probably why they seem more genocidal and dark now) @@LoreTours

    • @justinroberts1290
      @justinroberts1290 Před 4 měsíci

      Yes, one line from the on ship NPCs in helldivers 2 talks about this, referencing the first game as the first galactic war, taking place a 1000 or more years ago if I remember correctly. Bugs are the same, just a little more evolved

    • @Alien-oi7zm
      @Alien-oi7zm Před 4 měsíci +8

      It's heavily implied - in the steam update by the devs. They state that the logo is very "familiar"

  • @leesnotbritish5386
    @leesnotbritish5386 Před 4 měsíci +5

    “Their bodies make oil” oh ofc they do that’s perfec

  • @Lightwolf234
    @Lightwolf234 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Man the commentary of this series is just beautiful

  • @drysocks4412
    @drysocks4412 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Those cyborgs seem like my kind of droids! The flesh is temporary, steel eternal.

  • @adrianl415
    @adrianl415 Před 4 měsíci +14

    I'm not an American but God dam this is how I see the world in the next 1000 years and it's glorious and funny at the same time.

    • @TheNamelessTwo
      @TheNamelessTwo Před 4 měsíci +3

      i am an American and god damn is it simultaneously hilarious and terrifying how many present day parallels you can see😭

    • @nilodelmundo
      @nilodelmundo Před 4 měsíci

      It's either this or the empire of man. Id rather have this

  • @ADB_UWIM_2807
    @ADB_UWIM_2807 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Nice channel. Like the tour aspect as well as the narration tone. Ez sub

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks! Glad you like all the theming :)

  • @SweebyMignonne
    @SweebyMignonne Před 4 měsíci +20

    I hope the luminids take inspiration from lovecraftian eldritch horrors when they come out in hd2

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +5

      That'd be a pretty awesome path for them to go down

    • @alol441
      @alol441 Před 4 měsíci +1

      how many enemy factions are there

    • @fashionsuckman4652
      @fashionsuckman4652 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@alol441there are currently 2 in game, I don't know if they are going to introduce more, but I Believe it's likely

    • @snowtrooper1188
      @snowtrooper1188 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Look at the map, there’s enough room for two more fronts

    • @InspiringBard
      @InspiringBard Před 3 měsíci

      I don't think we'll be seeing the Iluminids again. But I suspect that whoever is responsible for these bots will come to fight their own battle soon enough.

  • @tevin4006
    @tevin4006 Před 4 měsíci +15

    Managed democracy sounds like if you suggest politicians to be represented by an algorithm off a social media website...Still democracy, just a messed up form of it.

    • @maplemayhem1988
      @maplemayhem1988 Před 4 měsíci +2

      The potential for corruption is staggering. Good thing my vote was cast with those questions in mind.

    • @desertdude8274
      @desertdude8274 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I'm going to report you for undemocratic thought.

  • @oniemployee3437
    @oniemployee3437 Před 4 měsíci +34

    I've had my fill of "humanity is actually evil" With 40k. Idc who we have to curbstomp, humanity in Helldivers is awesome! Especially compared to the hivemind stomach and the unfeeling robots.

    • @jamesmoist1184
      @jamesmoist1184 Před 4 měsíci +15

      "Oni employee" yeah that checks out

    • @effive7817
      @effive7817 Před 4 měsíci +8

      40k humans arent really evil... just a bit stupid and forced to fight a losing battle. Grim dark yadda yadda.
      Fundamentally humanity here is pretty similar in lore(delusional,manipulative,warmongering), it's just the universe is much less pessimistic.

    • @72skci72
      @72skci72 Před 4 měsíci +3

      40k humanity arent evil. It is just that 40k galaxy is so f'ed up.

    • @romanscum5678
      @romanscum5678 Před 4 měsíci +19

      @@72skci72 No they very much are evil, they really don't need to be as cruel as they are, to say nothing about the fact that the Imperium's own cruelty and ineptitude is the sole reason they still struggle.

    • @blank4227
      @blank4227 Před 4 měsíci +1

      humanity isn't evil in 40k, just because they make mistakes or have to do "bad" things to survive a worse fate

  • @dmaa88
    @dmaa88 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Very nice production bud, you got yourself a subscriber.

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

  • @user-dz5ne5vx7l
    @user-dz5ne5vx7l Před 4 měsíci

    Lolol love how you just take there side completely. Really get a feel for that lol gj

  • @warmasher
    @warmasher Před 4 měsíci +10

    its funny the difference between the game and the book. The book is post apocalyptic war torn eradiated earth with only a 1000 souls left floating through the sky. And then we have the game where everything dies with Democracy lol.

    • @WertzMS
      @WertzMS Před 4 měsíci +3

      hey man, i don’t think they’re related whatsoever

    • @warmasher
      @warmasher Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@WertzMS they are not. Pretty much the jumping out of a ship to a planet is the only thing. And well thr armor looks very similar.

  • @katanafourzeronine
    @katanafourzeronine Před 4 měsíci +14

    Mom, can we have ODST?
    We have ODST at home.

    • @dabbingraccoons6416
      @dabbingraccoons6416 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Very different lore and purposes but definitely inspired by the drop pods

    • @katanafourzeronine
      @katanafourzeronine Před 4 měsíci

      I mean, Helljumpers, Helldivers, there's clearly some inspiration@@dabbingraccoons6416

  • @ZenLopez
    @ZenLopez Před 4 měsíci +1

    I loved this video and the theme of your channel!

  • @condescendedwow4546
    @condescendedwow4546 Před 4 měsíci +5

    "'Are we the baddies?" That is seditious speech, I'll have to report you to the nearest Truth Officer

  • @levibloong
    @levibloong Před 4 měsíci +19

    helldivers is the most american game to ever america

  • @nycto5335
    @nycto5335 Před 4 měsíci +22

    The more I think about it the more the flash cloning theory makes sense tbh. The math doesn't math super well when you try to come to the conclusion every single Helldiver is a different person. Like take into account the procreation permits and how depending on the requirements to qualify it could partially cripple the creation of new people to recruit. But the math not mathing is probably just a me thing.
    But yeah I wouldn't be surprised if this new Galactic War was just self inflicted. Perhaps in the 100 years of peace the Super Earth Council/AI saw more people "wake up" and what's better than a war to go through the youth population which usually is the most rebellious, stoke some renewed toxic patriotism, etc. "Nobody knows how the Terminids go from one systems to another" hints at the fact the Termininds don't do any travel and that every outbreak is just a Terminid farm messing up. This big Terminid infestation implies a lot of farms fell at the same time and all hell broke loose... but is it really that likely? I think the Super Earth government caused it all on purpose.
    Soon they'll do something similar with the Automatons (assuming they're definitely not the Cyborgs).

    • @HongKongPhooey89
      @HongKongPhooey89 Před 4 měsíci

      The Ministry of Truth has been informed of your comment and it is under review for TREASON.

    • @nairocamilo
      @nairocamilo Před 4 měsíci +1

      Citizen, be mindful of what you say...
      You know what, now I'm kind of on the side of the cloning theory...
      Although I still think the Federation might be overpopulated (based on nothing whatsoever XD), with the restrictions on procreation the numbers would immediately dwindle during any kind of War

    • @what4521
      @what4521 Před 4 měsíci +2

      "I'm telling ya, the bug-farm breakout is an inside job!"

  • @samuelmartinelli7730
    @samuelmartinelli7730 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video. Well researched

  • @Ghosties_Toastie
    @Ghosties_Toastie Před 4 měsíci +3

    As a warhammer 40k fan i enjoy the lore of the Helldiver games

  • @TeeTerr
    @TeeTerr Před 4 měsíci +12

    For Democracy!

  • @TrilogyIV
    @TrilogyIV Před 4 měsíci +9

    The satirical and hilarious narrative of this game harkens back to the Bush era. The parallels….“Hypothetical WMD’s”. (The invasion of Iran) “Terrorist cyborgs attacking our country” (9/11 inside job theory) and even the bugs being the enemy (yet they turn out to provide a vital natural resource…Oil. I love this game and I’ve only played it for an hour. Starship trooper vibes all day.

  • @Burningpaladin
    @Burningpaladin Před 4 měsíci

    Mr. LoreTours you have shown some veerrrrrrrryyyy undemocratic motives with that ending, I'll have to show this the the Freedom and Democracy Intelligence and Investigation Committee!

  • @flaviusiacob1558
    @flaviusiacob1558 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @axelramirez7919
    @axelramirez7919 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Pure Comedic ODST's, Good Shit

  • @noah5664
    @noah5664 Před 4 měsíci +8

    If only humanity could be this organized haha

  • @dilophosaurusking7437
    @dilophosaurusking7437 Před 4 měsíci

    This is gold content

  • @novAviator01
    @novAviator01 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for the video

  • @quarkedbutt3957
    @quarkedbutt3957 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I really need a novel accurate game of Starship Troopers.

    • @Al-fp7tx
      @Al-fp7tx Před 4 měsíci +2

      The starship trooper power armour fucks

    • @blank4227
      @blank4227 Před 4 měsíci +1

      that would be fascist propaganda ackshually

    • @Al-fp7tx
      @Al-fp7tx Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@blank4227 you can make it accurate to the universe without glorifying the ideals of the author

    • @blank4227
      @blank4227 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Al-fp7tx That's nonsensical. It literally makes no sense- you cannot accurately depict the universe without endorsing it. You HAVE to change things about it or the author wins.

    • @Al-fp7tx
      @Al-fp7tx Před 4 měsíci

      @@blank4227 the starship troopers universe is a place were the government is ran only by veterans of an organization that effectively indoctrinates all of its members into having a very similar ideology a system that Robert A. Heinlein glorifies you can keep that system and explore its very obvious flaws (namely your not a citizen a person with a say in their own government, unless you participate in the military at some point) while having kickass lore accurate power amour without being as you say fascist propaganda.

  • @Elzippo1
    @Elzippo1 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I thought the devs said that the Automatons have nothing to do with the Cyborgs and are completely separate...

  • @babygorilla4233
    @babygorilla4233 Před 4 měsíci +3

    That's really cool they remind me of the Sardukar from dune. Just complete warrior madman fanatics but these are being produced on a much more industrial scale. I wonder what the hell diver shelf life is if they use them as suicide squad vanguard then as long as they manage using and making them the stores could always be growing.

  • @firesocius9309
    @firesocius9309 Před 4 měsíci

    Man, democracy is really the best. Thank you for sharing this video about the brave men and women currently fighting for the freedom of the people!

  • @OziumG
    @OziumG Před 4 měsíci +3

    Spreading Democracy one payload at a time

  • @icelltroo
    @icelltroo Před 4 měsíci +4

    the video made me think about what is happening in the world of the game. What scares me the most is Helldivers' unhealthy attitude towards democracy and freedom. they extol Freedom and Democracy as a kind of religion and worship it. What if this is all a cover for something more sinister and darker in the future?

  • @Michael-mc4hm
    @Michael-mc4hm Před 4 měsíci

    Great video 👍

  • @charlesgrove6905
    @charlesgrove6905 Před 4 měsíci

    Great vid.

  • @JoseTorres-ry9qe
    @JoseTorres-ry9qe Před 4 měsíci +7

    I did, in fact, liked to know more.
    You _KNOW_ PvP is coming right off that "Reproduction Permit"
    4th Faction: The Insurgency

    • @hunter2818
      @hunter2818 Před 4 měsíci +3

      The Devs have said they won't be doing PvP but I would bet money on an Insurgency faction in the future, Helldivers versus other humans would be cool.

  • @zintosion
    @zintosion Před 4 měsíci +12

    HUMANITY NUMBER 1!

  • @Samunation973
    @Samunation973 Před 4 měsíci

    The video I was looking for

  • @j_rhyan1577
    @j_rhyan1577 Před 4 měsíci +1

    this one right here commander

  • @s13g1313
    @s13g1313 Před 4 měsíci +5

    The video was so good, but then you ended it that way... I gotta report you to my local freedom officer

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +3

      It was all a test! You passed citizen!

  • @someguyusa
    @someguyusa Před 4 měsíci +7

    Honestly, a voting system that used AI questioning to determine what a person values and desires in their government in order to identify which vote would most closely match their needs and wants would be pretty awesome - if it could be designed to prevent manipulation, fraud, or whatever other forms of interference. There is certainly a lot of smoke & mirrors involved in the way current politicians try to gain votes, and the amount of information and topics to address are overwhelming for the average person that isn't dedicated to following current news, events, and politics - and that's to say nothing of the individual's ability to reason and think critically about topics while weighing social, moral, practical, economic, and philosophical matters simultaneously.

  • @thedango6890
    @thedango6890 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Very well made, and scripted! Subscribed

  • @melnaisb6686
    @melnaisb6686 Před 4 měsíci

    Glad to hear that there exists atleast a single sci fi setting where the protagonists are fighting for the good guys! For liberty and for democracy!

  • @WertzMS
    @WertzMS Před 4 měsíci +5

    I love Helldiver’s world because I hate super earth on principle and want to see them lose, but if they do lose it means there’s more missions to play through. I win both ways, like a true warmonger

  • @Cyberdemon-9001
    @Cyberdemon-9001 Před 4 měsíci +5

    So, the devs confirmed that in the 2nd game the automata are not the cyborgs. The machines we fight are not cyborgs. They are a separate faction

    • @Lazarultos
      @Lazarultos Před 4 měsíci

      Did they confirm it in an "out of character" talking to players as developers kind of way or did they confirm it "in character" talking to Super Earth citizens/soldiers kind of way? Because I've been theorizing that labelling them as Automatons is just Super Earth propaganda to hide their real origins and connections to the Cyborg Rebels 100 years ago and the devs are just rolling with it to manipulate our beliefs the same way the Helldivers' fanatic patriotism is manipulated.

  • @rinardis6020
    @rinardis6020 Před 2 měsíci

    its just so grimdark to see the number of several million dead helldivers on the bug side of the map, just for oil. disposable as the astra militarium from warhammer. but it also gives goosebumps ofc.

  • @paulglass7921
    @paulglass7921 Před 4 měsíci

    Fun !!

  • @tomxaider2058
    @tomxaider2058 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Imperium of Man: Geez! These guys don’t even know the art of cannon folders

  • @SizzleCorndog
    @SizzleCorndog Před 4 měsíci +7

    The one thing I really appreciate about the helldivers is how macho they are, like these dudes are a perfect parallel to the marines after 9/11 when we went back to the middle east

  • @benracer
    @benracer Před 4 měsíci

    I'm doing my part! *Super earth salutes*

  • @ThatDarnRedKhezu
    @ThatDarnRedKhezu Před 4 měsíci +3

    Comment under review for treason.

  • @justrobin8155
    @justrobin8155 Před 4 měsíci +16

    You were getting dangerously close to un-democratic thought at the end there, citizen...

    • @OPTIMUMELITE
      @OPTIMUMELITE Před 4 měsíci

      Super Earth must be destroyed.

    • @Alien-oi7zm
      @Alien-oi7zm Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@OPTIMUMELITE ah a robo commie

    • @dabbingraccoons6416
      @dabbingraccoons6416 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@OPTIMUMELITEthat’s very undemocratic of you. I am reporting you to the ministry of truth. They will liberate you communist traitor.

  • @CharinVZain
    @CharinVZain Před 4 měsíci +2

    My personal interpretation is that Helldivers are just footsoldiers recruited en masse with minimal training

  • @SigmaForgeAlpha
    @SigmaForgeAlpha Před 4 měsíci +3

    "The terminids are sentient"
    Dissenter propaganda

  • @omegablackzero7951
    @omegablackzero7951 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Automatons are not the same faction from the first game.

    • @danielhardman234
      @danielhardman234 Před 4 měsíci +1

      they are, theyre an evolution of the cyborgs, they even use the same flag

  • @Mark-in8ju
    @Mark-in8ju Před 4 měsíci +2

    Politicians starting a 3-front war for personal gain, that is so absurd it is immersion-breaki... (looks at current government) oh wait... governments are that stupid and selfish. This game is completely plausible.

  • @AphroLatinX
    @AphroLatinX Před 4 měsíci +14

    Love the video about super earth and its enemies but don’t appreciate the propaganda towards the end tho, you sound like a socialist bug-lover

    • @LoreTours
      @LoreTours  Před 4 měsíci +12

      Ermmm.... it was all just a test! And you passed Citizen!

  • @maggot9572
    @maggot9572 Před 4 měsíci

    Nice reading of the wiki

  • @NaughtiusMaximu5
    @NaughtiusMaximu5 Před 4 měsíci +1

    really feels like a mix of Starship Troopers and 40k
    even the symbol on the armor looks similar to the Imperium of Man
    it really feels like its the start of 40K's Imperium of Man

  • @solidboss1000
    @solidboss1000 Před 4 měsíci +4

    So super earth is basically north korea, and the illuminate is iraq war 😂

  • @sethraelthebard5459
    @sethraelthebard5459 Před 4 měsíci +13

    "Managed Democracy" is just a fluffed-up word for "Communism"

    • @NCRVeteranRanger
      @NCRVeteranRanger Před 4 měsíci

      How dare you compare our fine civilization of Super Earth to those sinister cybernetic commies? I should report you for such vile unpatriotic slander!

    • @someidiotnamedtricks6397
      @someidiotnamedtricks6397 Před 4 měsíci

      That's not very democratic of you

    • @NCRVeteranRanger
      @NCRVeteranRanger Před 4 měsíci

      @@someidiotnamedtricks6397 Agreed. We should report him for comparing our fine Super Earth to those sinister red cyborgs.

    • @headphonedust
      @headphonedust Před 4 měsíci

      Congratulations on having not only zero media literacy but also zero political literacy

    • @kylerfox7177
      @kylerfox7177 Před 4 měsíci +19

      Nah, its quite the opposite. Managed Democracy is more akin to fascism. Military focused government that motivates its citizens with patriotism and an us vs them mentality. Dissension is punished harshly to force people in line.

  • @TotalGamer-gv4mc
    @TotalGamer-gv4mc Před 4 měsíci +1

    Can't wait for the third faction to make it into the game, and perhaps vehicles for the helldivers to pilot.

  • @blackjack5908
    @blackjack5908 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Remember: Service Guarantees Citizenship! Would you like to know more?

  • @JohnELPadrino33
    @JohnELPadrino33 Před 4 měsíci +1

    “they are not all that bad though”
    *raises super earth rifle*
    “as their bodies yield a high quantity of oil”
    *lowers super earth rifle*
    6:48

  • @uhhhcam
    @uhhhcam Před 3 měsíci

    ykw i was looking this up bc a boy i like is obsessed with this game but the lore is actually interesting

  • @byronhenry6518
    @byronhenry6518 Před 4 měsíci +1

    “Every Citizen is given a bolt action rifle at age 16”
    Americans: HELL YEAH BEST SOCIETY EVER

  • @alexer52
    @alexer52 Před 4 měsíci

    I love the smell of democracy in the morning