Exploring Cultural Vs Universal Beauty Standards
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âBeautiful people are a race of their ownâ. Damn that hurts more than necessary ...
It was a quote, not his wording. Don't feel bad!
Salam Rouabhia nah, i was just joking. I know he holds no ill intentions. Iâm beautiful in my own eyes, thatâs all i need. Thanks man
philip Trevor thatâs racist
philip Trevor what does negenotropic even mean?
@philip Trevor "Orderly" faces?? Like closer to a baseline of "normal"? I would say health is the biggest indicator.
So what you're saying is that I'm universally ugly
In the nicest way possible.
Hey, youâre not alone đ
I think you really pretty !
When I see video like this, beauty is not a big deal rather than feel bad being ugly. It is better than "everyone deserve to feel beautiful" which simply telling lies to yourself.
Olivia Moten no shit
hey can you also explain why some faces look more attractive when you get to know the person owning it, or if you keep seeing it at different moments in time; but you didn't find it attractive when you first saw it?
The mere exposure effect
Maham Zaidi itâs a term learned in psychology. Look up âmere exposure effectâ
Its different for me i found familiar faces unattractuve ...
Happened in several cases..... especially Benedict Cumberbatch...I didn't like his face at all...I don't know why but as much as watched him more I started liking even his face.. that's weird
literally all of my crushes looks lik a certain celeb
I would love to know how âexpressionâ plays into attractiveness , example being Adam driver isnât really physically attractive unless youâve seen how he expresses himself in face and body and voice.
I agree! Just by how you carry yourself, your posture, the way you smile and interract, it can make me change completely my view on someone.
Some people I find very attractive in pictures and not so much irl, and some that don't have the typical flawless face, can become very attractive, just by their "body language"
Yes! This! Same with Benedict Cumberbatch....that voice.....
Gosh I always had a crush on him even though he isn't even that conventionally beautiful. People always told me I have bad taste in men and I thought there was something wrong with me... :(
@anonymous user I don't want an army guy, I just like his voice, it has nothing to do with anything else really
@@lo4568 you just like galactic bad boys
Beauty standards are becoming more universal as the world becomes increasingly "global". The main issue is what the research is based on. The "golden ratio" was created through Greek beauty standards and then used on different ethnicities. Their was a recently a ranking of the most beautiful women and most of the top ranked women were white. The defense was that scientist used the golden ratio, but the golden ratio wasn't meant for non Greek or Euro features. African women aren't inherently less attractive than European women but "science" and "research" would suggest otherwise.
@@QOVESStudio the average caucasian face is closer to the golden ratio than the face of any other ethnicity. of course women of other ethnicites that kinda match the golden ratio exist, but the golden ratio was specifically made with caucasians in mind. edit: the golden ratio mask**** of course i know what the golden ratio is and i thought most people did too, hence why i thought not including 'mask' would still get my point across, which was quite ignorant and stupid of me. sorry about that! will try to not make that mistake again lmao hope no one took my comment too seriously. kinda worried that it has this many likes. :^)
@@QOVESStudio While there are some non-white women who come close to having the golden ratio, like Lupita I believe, it's far more common for white women to have features that match up with it. It's just because the original models used to calculate this ratio were white.
This is a golden comment. One cannot infer on cross-culture agreements about beauty standards in today's or even yester-year's world. The world has been globalized for over centuries, and the beauty standards of European culture (through dominance of media and colonialization) is masqueraded as the universal standard. In other words, universal beauty standards would mean an INNATE standard in humans (LMAO). In an absence of societal influences, beauty is likely subjective. The scientific references made in this video give little justifications for the claim made in the video. It is unfortunate that the sciences will eventually replace religious conjectures that it so criticizes. Making it hard to distinguish between true practice of science and scientism.
*FINALLY* somebody says it! The colonialism runs deep, smh.
The golden ratio is *not* a template for âuniversalâ beauty, itâs a template for âuniversalâ beauty based on Eurocentric standards.
The golden ratio is from nature lmao but ok
Im still gonna be in love with Cillian Murphyâs beautifully feminine eyes
Whatever ,the truth is Youll love him nore if he be more mascline
Cillian Murphy is beautiful.
Heâs really representing us Irish đ
Nah, he's creepy
I think that Paolo Maldini looks like a more masculine (and older) version of Cillian Murphy.
Iâm a Korean-American and itâs absolutely wild how different beauty standards are. I have more masculine features, with my squarish jaw being the biggest one. Growing up my mom always told me to not chew gum, as apparently a square jaw does not look good. I also saw a lot of the Korean male celebrities had narrow, v-shaped jaws. I was always envious of it, but then when I got a bit older (about 20) people started to compliment me about my jaw, saying that it was masculine. I learned to accept it and now I like the fact that I have a wide jaw. Itâs just crazy how different the standards are tho, and how much it can shape perception
Sorry to correct you but at 0:33 they are not South East Asian men but South Asian men. South East Asians are different ethnicity of Asians and not same as South Asians. Anyway, great episode and amazing work! Iâm excited and looking forward to watch for further next episodes!
There's only one human race tho. The correct word is ethnicity.
Katia Del Rio human is a species not a race. shush.
Actually there are places in the grey area where they are technically SEA but considered south Asian because they look Indian and not oriental.
@@iSundae17 But Sendhil is of Indian origin
@@iSundae17 Which countries are those? Not including multicultural countries like Malaysia and Singapore?
People say I'm *attractive*
and by people I mean my mom
If itâs you in your profile pic then you are attractive
Oh bitch please you're here to fish compliments you know that you're attractive, i bet you get atleast 20 compliments per month and 15 approaches from girls, i don't understand it you get attention and validation already why do you do want more?! Are you addicted to it or what
@@agentsmith9858 Calma calma, it's just a joke.
Now if you'd excuse me, I have to go receive my daily compliments from all those women you told me about.
@@coralbow LOL mate that was some clickbait!!!
@@coralbow pls record it for us average and below average guys so we can see reality, cause most of these social Experiments are fake, i really wanna proof if looks do 90% of the "success"
If you're an honest real man then i wanna bet with you for 100âŹ
You're in? Let's make this also viral if you want! I will fail in both results anyways. I even take the emberassment for the incel and normie world
"Beautiful people are a race of their own." So are average/ugly people a race of their own too?
You're smarter than we think
@@QOVESStudio why model boys men look good on instagram and tiktok but when we see their original pic why do they have lots of imperfections ??? Is there anyone in this world having an extremely rare beauty!!!
Josh Fernandez perfection doesnât always mean beautiful, being too perfect looks strange to humans because it doesnât appear real to us. The social media guys are already good looking but they use editing tools and filters to appear âperfectâ. The rare beautyâs are usually in the modeling or entertainment industry.
"My race is beauty"
-cracked, if advertisement were honest
Little Reuby thats true, I often had the feeling of my looks already beeing enough. Its hard to open up your heart, the fear of beeing liked mainly for your looks is real, and it hurts. Getting compliments/ validation and all that can feel nice, but beeing admired just for your outer Shell is not fullfilling, even so to atracting sexual partners. Not many People will experience this, and thus not sympathise or understand. I often experience envy or overly dominat behauviour from other men and its hard to find real friendships.
"Straight women preferred more masculine features; bisexual women preferred more feminine features."
Me, who likes feminine features : *wait a damn minute*
Us bestieâŠ
It's a generalization
This goes for the majority, not every single woman
lmfaaaoo
@@KK-oh2ot oh yeah. I guess so. That makes sense.
Beauty isnt universal but ugliness is if you are ugly in ur own culture there is high chance u ll be everywhere eless but if you are attractive in ur culture u can be average elsewhere
This !
Itâs not always true. For example there are a lot of kpop idols that are considered ugly or not attractive in Korea, but are considered attractive in America.
@@Lolpov2711 I dont think they are considered ugly but just not attractive enough to be entertainers from Korean perspective so they just call them ugly if they were just normal people they wont be called ugly koreans have different standards for celebrities
clearly you've never heard of colorism
i do agree so much. i was never considered pretty growing up in russia but in Europe im the bitch
I'm not bi I just don't find rough overly masculine men attractive. I'm straight and like clean, "pretty boys". Overly masculine men of any race honestly just scare me.
Edit: if I had to say any really masculine men I like would be like ones that looked like Jason Momoa, Channing Tatum, Johnny Depp.
What kind of pretty boys do you like? Harry Styles? Tom Holland?
Teresa Davis I honestly can relate w this alot. Thatâs why I sometimes feel more attracted to some East Asian men, as they are not afraid and tend to be more comfortable with being a bit more feminine. And thatâs super attractive to me.
You're young.
So u like kpop boys
@@IushIy in terms of Asians I like men like Song joong ki. White boys I like ones like josh hutcherson or Chris hemsworth. Black men I like ones like Michael Ealy, Roshan fegan
I'mma be honest, I never even searched for this, but damn this video is informative
The golden ratio confirms proportionate features. However, it doesnât mean someone feels attracted to a person with a face that is perfect to the golden ratio. Everyone has their own taste. Some people like people with certain âimperfectionsâ that may not meet beauty/cultural standards. But, if someone does meet a perfect golden ratio, most people will see them as pleasing to the eyes even if they may not be attracted to them because science lol.
Finally someone with logic......half the comment section is some libtard calling this video racist.......
This is circular logic. You're defining proportionate features to mean features following the golden ratio, then saying the features following the golden ratio confirm proportionate features. You should question your definition of proportionate.
fangiscool1 Yeah, I could have cut my comment in half. Iâm half asleep most the time so, I tend to ramble.
@7 violett as long as they are healthy or have a good personality
@@rainyw1nd that's bullshit. If that was true there wouldn't be "cheating" or "breakups". Most of the times these happen because someone "healthier" showed interest.
Before I say anything, im not an expert or a scientist (also english is not my first lenguage, so I apologized for any mistake). Having stating this, how much of a role does colonialism play? For example, in Mexico, before colonization, the beauty standars were very different, now Mexico is filled with the idea that the more white you look, the more attractive you are (idea reinforce by soap operas), when a century ago it wasnt like that. I ask this in a very honest way, not trying to start a fight
This is honestly a good point, the beauty standards of prehispanic Mesoamerica were way different from Europe's. If you meet people from the indigenous communities (I think some people call them pueblos) it's easy to tell there's some distinct features that not all mestizos have. I think it's non-problematic to point this out. Imperialism and colonization have altered the genetic and linguistic landscape of the Americas etc. It's sad to think the beauty of our ancestors was eradicated and we, their descendants, are still consuming the standards of their invaders
@@MrAlexanderrangel " It's sad to think the beauty of our ancestors was eradicated and we, their descendants, are still consuming the standards of their invaders" damn, that is powerful, tragic and very true
Xander R we donât actually know what indigenous people wouldâve thought about beauty standards. You can look through hundreds of photos online taken of indigenous peoples in the 1800âs and can see that there quite a few conventionally attractive men and women, especially considering traits like symmetry, high cheekbones, full lips, strong jaws, and almond shaped eyes. What we donât know is if those people were considered the most attractive in their worlds.
@@cj48 You do realize there's countless examples of Mesoamerican art that deliberately depict the most common phenotypes of those times right? Just look at any of the Mayan bas reliefs or the literal Olmec Masks that detail important features like almond eyes, upturned lips, a forehead cleft, and broad nose. Mesoamerican art shows a consistent standard / ideal for facial and bodily features that aren't necessarily universal. Have you ever heard of "the mayan nose" lol. Or the fact it was considered beautiful to have an elongated skull and crossed eyes?
These are features the artists clearly noticed and reproduced over and over. Sure there are universal standards of beauty, but let's not allow that to erase obvious cultural distinctions.
@@cj48 And I mean, there ARE Still indigenous communities all over mexico and the USA, so asserting we can never know what they think is just untrue
you are the first youtuber that successfully pointed out the problem i have with my eyeshape which is a semi negative canthal tilt and the (to me) aesthetically unpleasing side effects it brings. moreover it is something i noticed through out my whole life and not just because of current beauty standards hence i always wore and still wear an eyeliner
That's funny because I have a straight/positive canthal tilt, but my eyelashes are really long, so they kinda drag my eyes down. I think it looks cute though
@@lo4568 completely different lol
@@lo4568 yeah, that makes a lot of sense, i notice that as soon as i wear too long lash extensions my eyes get dragged down aswell which is actually because my eyes are already deep set + i dont have a lot of space between my eyes & eyebrows. maybe thats the case for you too
@@aylin1759 Yes, haha! I have very low eyebrows and deep set eyes too! We're twinning
@@lo4568 damnnnn we're twinning forreal đđđŒ
As far as beauty science goes, I'm most fascinated with the phenomenon of people being more attractive in person than in photos. Not universally true, obviously, especially if you put a lot of effort into getting the right angle, lighting, etc for the photo, but on average people will be more attractive in videos or in person than in photos. I know I am.
i look so ugly in photos but irl i look decent
Ok. Question. In another video you said being able to find someone attractive was based on repeated exposure to certain groups of people i.e whites in South Africa found African women attractive at a higher percentage than whites who lived in more white majority countries. If that's true then how are certain features universally attractive? If I find a certain type of face more attractive based on my exposure to it then doesn't cultural standards of beauty and attractiveness outweigh universal ones?
Beauty is subjective and objective. We don't have solid answer
This video is establishing universal beauty while youâre talking about preferences. The basic point of this is that some features are considered good looking across the world.
They've just averaged preferred fautured across the world and found which ones are universally preferred.
@@abraham8565 How can both be true? No disrespect when I ask but what axioms do you hold that allow for the concept of beauty to both be objective and subjective?
@@coolfear360 usually it depend on ur culture
"There's no point in bringing race to every single discussion"
Louder for the people in the back
*edit: my comment is in regards to general conversation about random things, not specifically this.
@@jessicamappless4024 Unfortunately, quite often it doesn't, yet it's still brought up. Sometimes it seems just for the sake of bringing it up.
@@jessicamappless4024 I do understand. My comment was in regards to more general settings/conversations.
@@jessicamappless4024 No, race doesn't fit in there at all. It is just used by people who *feel* unattractive to blame and accuse whoever *they* find attractive to not like them back. Seriously. Beauty is found everywhere and each nation/ race has their own opinion about what's attractive and often it is the exotic they like. But are there some things that are generally true? Yes. A straight, slim nose will always be more beautiful than a crooked one or a bulbous one or a very wide one or a flat one with very little bone to it. That just simply is. Does it mean all people with wide noses or bulbous noses or flat noses are ugly? Of course not! You can be very pretty with a bulbous nose. You *might* be prettier with a slim one but then who is perfect anyways. The trick is to be able to accept that there are features that are universally considered beautiful and that one might not have all of them and not get offended. It just simply is. Roses are usually considered one of the most beautiful flowers. Does it mean a daisy is ugly? Of course not. Does it mean we only want roses and despise the daisy? Of course not. And luckily we are allowed to admire the rose without the daisy getting offended by it. Most of us humans are no roses. Only a few are so breathtakingly beautiful and why not admire them without feeling less ourselves? Daisies are lovely, pansies are lovely, all kinds of flowers are. With roses only the world would be dull, indeed.
@@Mameha4 I like what you said about the noses. I grew up in Kenya and idk about other African countries (I know Ugandans have this too though, and I think TZ as well), but Kenyans do tend to not all the time but quite often have the thing with the nose being flat with little bone to it, yet that doesn't detract at all from their overall beauty. đđ
@@marynazure Precisely. Often it is the little "flaws" that make a face strinking. Perfect beauty can get boring quickly and it can fade fast. But a "statement nose/ mouth/ cheekbone" etc will very likely last you throughout the aging process and make you interesting.
Why are your videos so calming to watch??
I was pissed off about some shit that went down today and this video helped stabilize my mood.
DAMN.
as a straight girl, over time iâve become more attracted to traditionally masculine facial features (sharp jawline, big and sculpted nose, high cheekbones)
that's exactly typical (explained by science lol) whether you're straight/bi, as girls get older, they prefer more masculine features.
sholos i didnât know that it was the case for bi girls too
Well either we are talking about Eurocentric "BS" or world conventionally beauty, I'm still ugly to men, so Yay to me for being constant!!!
Omg this comment hits hard đđ
It can be your forte as well, my "beautiful" friends always fall for the bullshit of some boys / men who would say things like 'don't you dare cut your hair short" ...
you keep that constant!
Fussel I donât think so! List all the things men donât like on a woman and you have âmeâ ! I know itâs not all easy everyday for pretty people. I donât hate them, Iâm just disappointed with my own look. But Iâd rather be pretty with some problems than being ugly in the same situation for sure!
Honestly, I know people say it is essentially cat fishing, but makeup can really enhance your look. The whole point of makeup is to mess with contour, I.e. lighting on your face. You can give yourself a more defined jaw, make your eyes angled more upwards, make your face look slimmer, define cheekbones. Itâs crazy to see some before and after makeup pics
I find pretty boys way more attractive than masculine guys.
A M bleh, not me. Itâs too feminine.
maybe itâs because iâm bisexual, and i find myself more attracted to feminine people? eh, everyone has their preferences:)
A M I see. That may be why.
And I love masculine ones.
same, and iâm bi too. iâm more attracted to feminine girls than masculine girls as well
"Beautiful people are a race of their own"
Yes! Yes they are
Adding my preferences into the pot: Iâm bi and I prefer feminine men and for women itâs much more open. Iâve always wondered if my bisexuality contributed to my attraction to feminine men!
Julia Iâm straight and I like very feminine looking men. Sexuality doesnât mean anything in my opinion.
yknow iâve seen a lot of bi people say theyâre attracted to feminine guys and masculine girls, but iâm not really into masculine people of any gender. is that weird?
@@turnleftaticeland I have the same thing
True!
it also depends on your age!
having all the features considered as universally beauty standards might not make someone a 10/10
agreed. look at Olivia Wilde, a strong jaw, squared face on a women. still above average. it's mostly about harmony and complementary I'd say
Have you looked at the methodology behind these studies that you linked to? I'm not trying to say that you are wrong or trying to force racism into the topic you are discussing; but, I've recently done some reading about how data - as unbaised as it may seem - can have underlying skews due to the methodology and data sets used. I was just wondering this about the studies you referenced as a genuine question.
Youâre right.
When it comes to issues of beauty race is very relevant . Along with culture and societal standards .
Absolutely
so basically, this video is to get ppl stop commenting hate on your vids. No content of different beauty standards w respect to different cultures whatsoever.
yup
The Age of Instagram Face - "There was something strange, I said, about the racial aspect of Instagram Face-it was as if the algorithmic tendency to flatten everything into a composite of greatest hits had resulted in a beauty ideal that favored white women capable of manufacturing a look of rootless exoticism. âAbsolutely,â Smith said. âWeâre talking an overly tan skin tone, a South Asian influence with the brows and eye shape, an African-American influence with the lips, a Caucasian influence with the nose, a cheek structure that is predominantly Native American and Middle Eastern.â Did Smith think that Instagram Face was actually making people look better? He did. âPeople are absolutely getting prettier,â he said. âThe world is so visual right now, and itâs only getting more visual, and people want to upgrade the way they relate to it.â - Interesting read from the New Yorker By Jia Tolentino December 12, 2019
i immediately thought of this quote from that article as soon as i clicked on this video! honestly, the western standard is straying further from the blue eyed, blonde hair, slim woman. itâs definitely shifting to the more mixed, curvy instagram model woman IMO.
I'm curious about how hatred can also make a person appear less attractive. For example, an attractive woman with a bad attitude becomes less hot. People that hate a certain racial group think of everyone in that racial group as unattractive.
I think he has a video on the difference between social attractive/charisma and physical attraction
This is good content. Very valuable for an artist. The fact that some people feel bad about the info presented is more a reflection of their own insecurities.
I love how he uses so much science. It's why your videos are much more interesting than other youtubers.
I think im an attractive person
@ayush tomar yeah howd you know?
@ayush tomar I forgot to mention it was your grandma
@ayush tomar cos you said she mislead her grandchildren, not cool bro.
Good for you
Ali Al-omari yes, you are
first i believe the golden ratio was eurocentric then believe it wasn't and that it's universal, but i changed my mind. I thought the golden ration was just about how the facial features are set up and face shape, but it's also the dept and sizes of the features which I find unfair because it leans heavily to white people and not other race. The nose in the golden ration is especially the most unfair and eurocentric. imo the nose is one the biggest indicator that makes someone look a certain race cause there is more overlap with skin color, face shape, the way the features are set up and eye sizes but noses are more unique with each race, both in the front and the side of the nose. it kinda make sense too that it's the most unique feature imo cause that's where we breathe through lol and prehistoric humans were in very different type of environments from one another.
I disagree. Iman Bowie (90s supermodel) is pure Somalian and is beautiful by any standards. I'm not sure about the mix Naomi Campbell must have genetically, but I think anyone will agree on how stunning she is. Aishwarya Rai is one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen. Lupita Nyong'o, from 12 years of slavery, is beautiful too. Beauty is international. I think attractiveness goes beyond beauty, and that's why I think there's always going to be that dispute with these types of videos talking about attractiveness when really we're talking about beauty. I have been attracted to typically "ugly" people, and it has more to do with their presence and what they represent than only their beauty.
@@guesswho5790 I think people are misunderstanding the real issue here. Lupita Nyong'o, Iman Bowie, ... may be beautiful by European standards. But would they be seen as beautiful in any society/tribe around the world? This is the real issue.
European standards of beauty can be applied to people of any ethnicity. But it doesn't mean that every culture would judge beauty with the same criteria as European culture.
@ I differentiate true beauty from "beauty standards". What I meant by my comment is that when someone is drop dead gorgeous... It's not a secret. There are things that everybody can agree on. And I did not specify width of nose, skin color or anything like that. As long as a face has proportionate, symmetrical features, there is a high chance they will be considered beautiful. I once heard a guy say that he didn't find Rihannah attractive because he didn't like her nose and I was like... Boy you wish! She is very beautiful I don't care what he says. That's his preference and bias and covert racism.
But I agree that there are "beauty standards" that are imposed in a specific culture in a specific time and place. And they bring up a whole other discussion because it usually involves the body, and I was mainly referring to facial structures. A very clear example is the old Chinese tradition of having higher class ladies bond their feet... It was horrifying and yet in time it was considered attractive because they associated it with power and wealth. Or that tribe in Africa Jessica Simpson visited where obese brides were considered attractive. None of these things are beautiful, at least to me, because they are unhealthy, but it made sense to them, in their time. Just like now inflated, fake everything, corseted waists and stretched out facial skin (lest we have an expression line, God forbid), are today's Instagram standards, then you have the fitness ideal body, then you have fashion runway "beauty", and still there are girls who don't fit into any of these molds and I find them extremely beautiful and attractive, and surely won't be alone in that.
Edit: sorry for the loooong comment!!
@ Naomi has some Chinese blood I believe
The golden ratio it's not something that has been created, it's a mathematical equation that is found in every symmetrical thing created by nature (flowers, shells, trees...). What scientists did is apply that to the human face to find the most perfectly proportionate face possible, not the most attractive. People got the idea that, just because it's proportionate, it has to be the ideal of beauty, and even though more proportionate faces than average are considered the most attractive, those faces still have certain imperfections as it is impossible to have the exact measurements as the perfect ratio naturally.
With that I should add that east Africans have also a very similar face proportions to the Golden ratio, yet they are black. The same with middle easterns.
0:31 Southeast asian man? I thought it was more south asian... Southeast asians are thais, malays, filipinos...
You're right but I'm here , waiting for Filipinos say that they're not Asian :)) đ
@@MrPimka wE aRe PaCific isLanDers
There are Indians in South East Asia too
@@craz4jaymz that does not make them southeast Asian though
Khanh Pham Iâm Filipino and Iâve never seen another Filipino call themselves ânot Asianâ đđđ
Fun fact: Nefirtiti has the golden ratio.
Really? Wow! I've never find her attractive.
@Tara Lang it's just maths
The scientist said that she was ugly but with a very attractive personality
@@cerdocapitalista3905 Where did you get that information?
@@cerdocapitalista3905 Literally her bust has the golden ratio.
The problem people had with the previous video was that the word Eurocentric was used in the video to describe all of the universally desirable features, despite some being more pronounced in non-Europeans. It was (perhaps unintentionally) implied that the only reason we are not attracted to Aziz is because heâs not European looking. Iâm glad you clarified. I was getting really tired of people in the comments telling me Iâm not attracted to regular East Asian men when Iâm literally married to one, lol.
This might sound weird but I read an article several years ago (unfortunately I cannot find a reference) that stated that the modern fashion industry had changed the view on what's considered classical feminine features. The face of a model today has more masculine features: strong jaw lines and bone structures and the bodies are skinny, flat small asses, narrow hips, no chest etc. The theory was that the fashion industry employs a high ratio of homosexual men (very generalizing!) who are not attracted to female features and promotes younger boyish looking features in female models. True or not, Victoria secrets models have pretty faces but you can't really call them feminine in a classical sence. And their bodies are not very feminine either. I believe cnon western cultures still celebrate classical feminine features, the one evolution choose for us to survive.
Whats being pushed nowadays in the mainstream is actually "fat acceptance", but only for women. Curvy in todays sense means overweight usually. The reason models are usually skinnier, male and female, is that the designer clothes fit better. I doubt it has something to do with homosexuality.
very interesting, i had noticed that but never put it together. totally makes sense
What kind of face (masculine vs feminine) a woman finds attractive changes throughout her cycle
no
Only in term of "technical" aspects : I've always felt like having well defined features is the most important thing in term of beauty. Other things can vary, like having no symmetrical eyes but high cheekbones can work. A nose that is quite big according to standards but sharp jaw line... Things like that. It's all about balancing things...
Gaze also, is so important no matter the culture. Unexpressive eyes are considered unattractive (I said unexpressive, not jaded).
It's very hard to define but those series are definitely interesting, keep going mate you're doing a great job ! âđ»
Good video. Although North East Asians like Koreans, Mongolians or even Native Americans (whom are descendants of NE Asians) have prominent cheekbones and wide jaws naturally. So they do try to reduce those through surgery regardless of gender. So I don't think the idea that "strong/wide jaw is always good" is universal in that case.
There are 2 aspects of beauty. One is aesthetically pleasing, the other is what attracts the opposite sex. For example, babies are aesthetically pleasing to look at but I am pretty sure they are not attractive (sexually). Strong jaws aren't "always good" but they are mostly sexually appealing. Then there are "cute" aesthetically pleasing jaws. Then there are universally ugly recessed jaws. Most poeple like a combination of "aesthetically pleasing" and "sexually appealing" features.
I hate when people complain and shame others for liking Euro-centric beauty. This political correctness has gone so far that we think it's very reasonable to control what people are allowed to find beautiful.
I'm 6'2", have white skin and brown hair. My eyes are icy blue so I'm a basic Icelandic person. Still many of my favorite looking girls happen to be of mixed race like Zendaya. It's very common to be attracted to what you don't possess yourself. My point is that we NEED diversity. I'm very ''conventionally attractive'' but if all the women looked like me with similar features then I would lose all my interest in women, so boring! Some call it flaws but we need diversions from the norm. Show me your freckles, gap teeth, ununiform complexion and curly hair and I will be incapable of resisting you.
Girls here on CZcams hate when I say that I love when girls use minimal makeup and/or go for a natural look. I appreciate good makeup like I do a nice painting but I don't wanna kiss a painting. Wear your imperfections with pride and it will drive guys like me crazy. What matters the most is that you are comfortable with how you look and sometimes that means caking on makeup and wearing ugly clothes. It's a sensitive subject and many girls watch this channel so keep in mind that this is just one guy's opinion. I'm just some guy on a tiny island in the Atlantic Ocean so don't let my opinion hurt you. You're an amazing creature and I respect you. Thanks for reading this.
Theres nothing wrong with someone liking people who look "white." The problem is the history of white people indoctrinating minorites into thinking their features are ugly. I don't expect you to know that, but plenty of places that have been colonized by Britain, for example, have huge markets for skin bleaching products. Theres people who hate their afrocentric features because of it. Basically the world's been taught to hate anything that doesn't look white.
overall, balance is the key here such as symmetrical features/faces. Time also plays a role because beauty preferences changes with time. What is undesirable now might be desirable in the future and vice-versa.
In my opinion, in the video @ 7:28 the most beautiful face is on the right - the darkest skin wearing an orange scarf. Her facial features are perfect! A flawless beauty! She looks beautiful even without make-up.
I'm female and I find androgynous men with more female face features more attractive :D
it also depends on how old you are :P.
Mickybo Yakari I'm 21 and I'm not attracted to women at all. I just have my individual preferences :)
@@pyromaniac3098 All right. Have a good night.
Mickybo Yakari thanks, you too!
@@pyromaniac3098 Thanks. I am rather manly, so I'm not going to undertake anything. :)
I honestly love your channel. Been watching vids from it the whole day. I draw and mostly i draw portraits and I do part time editing jobs, so alot of this is very relatable and noteworthy. Im glad you back everything up with research and not just spew discussions based on your opinions. I really like when you discuss specific facial features and how light naturally touches them, and their overall impact on a face.
I wanna hear about noses and also what makes a person photogenic please
I think this completely disregards the role of white supremacy in shaping global beauty standards
Exactly
I like the extensive research put in making this video out there which is why I find it to be such a disgrace that people always have to make it about themselves aka their ethnic insecurities. This is clearly a video series trying to explain beauty from a scientific perspective. It's based on biology and maths, and not on your ego.
I felt one factor is overlooked in the studies claiming to have gathered mass-approved attractive features. We are living in a time where everyone is connected with each other and exposed or potentially influenced by the same beauty standard society fed us from an early age. This means that there is a higher likelihood that the majority of us find the same features attractive, which in turn also means that we are not necessary attracted to a feature for biological reasons.
Why I'm feeling like you are from India?!?
He is, he did a face reveal in one of the older videos, he lives in Australia hence the accent
I'm pretty sure anybody who knows about fair and lovely is from the indian subcontinent
@@jyotisen6283 right
Beauty is a very interesting topic. Thank you for making that very obvious. Love this channel.
I once read an article regarding a study on heterosexual women's preference in terms of how much a masculine-looking face they found the most attractive. The findings were that heterosexual women's preferences vary depending on their hormonal cycle. It looks like more or less masculine traits are preferred depending on estrogen levels.
Actually there are studies showing that people have a hard time evaluating whether other races are attractive or not, because they haven't yet been "told" what the "benchmark" for beauty is among that race. You seem very defensive with people who bring up race, for some reason lol.
he is correct
Thatâs what I was saying
interesting video!
do you think the studies results are majorly influenced by war propaganda of strong/secure looking men and obedient/emotional looking women in the western world? especially after spreading over the media and internet for other cultures to pick up?
especially wondering about that since european beauty standarts for a long time have been what we consider feminine for men.
also, are you planning to go beyond biological facts in future videos? i dont mean cultural viewpoints, i mean aesthetical composition. you're obviously smart, and i'd be sad to see that wasted on just recounting biological basics already mentioned in other videos. i think taking it a step further and exploring humanities big brain skills would be great! i hope you won't let it sit on 'ugly features are cute' because that is an oversimplification that missed the mark by far.
@@QOVESStudio yay!
Something that bothered me is how some people call poc who don't have stereotypical features as having white features. I'm not talking about white passing poc, that's a different topic but I'm talking about simply poc who don't have stereotypical features of their race but they still look like their race. A lot of the times people who say that think they're enlighten or woke but it's little ironic, cause why do they revolve it around white people and they lowkey believe white people are the default or they have the neutral features. I don't see that many people saying that a white person look like a poc, it likes they gave white people privilege to be diverse in their features more than poc.
Waouh...I thought I was the only one noticing that...Had to point out many times that my features aren't "white" or caucasian but East African....
When presented with two choices like in your examples, I usually find the less masculine man more attractive (though I'm sure on a broader scale my preference would be somewhere in the middle). I think because in my mind it corresponds with a kinder, more emotionally open and agreeable person (this is obviously not true, but it subconsciously signals it to me). I grew up with a very masculine looking type A alpha male who was controlling and made my mother miserable, so I think I'm seeking the opposite.
"Beautiful people are a race of their own" , damn, I feel this HAHA
I loved this! Can we see maybe different types of ethnicities and examples of attractiveness on each race/ethnicity?
That's because beauty is influenced by society. If I society deems a certain way too look is beautiful then the great majority will pick that type of face. The world is increasingly global and European standard of beauty is what is the most broadcasted to us . Let's not present that's not a thing. In the early 2010's when Leonardo DiCaprio and Giselle Bundchen visited some secluded tribe in Brazil. The tribesmen were as sked if they found them beautiful and all them responded by saying they were ugly. Yet these two people in western society were deemed as universally beautiful.
Is this true
@@legolover6619 no
Science says, the best "face" for someone is actually, the aggregate of all the faces he/she has seen in their life. The "average" face. Thats because, the average individual of a society is usually a healthy individual. The odd one out must be different, because of a deformity.
In fact, if you approach an infant, with a vampire mask or a scream mask, they won't cry. Thats because they're still taking in all the faces around them, and they don't know what is a healthy face, and what is a diseased face. These infants finally learn this by the age of three years.
So... A good looking face is not decided because the "society" taught the kids. The kids look around and decide for themselves. They learn by themselves, what is healthy and what is not.
Small difference.
For those tribesmen, the faces of the actor/actresses were far away from the average, and thus their minds told them it was a deformity, abnormality.
If you want a better explanation, watch the related episode of Brain Games, a show that used to air on the National Geographic channel.
Idk, I think it's deffinately depends on WHO looks. Like, the examples shown I didn't find beautiful at all. Just avarage faces with make up on but potrayed by media as "Perfect, attractive".
Bradd Pitt is known as sex-symbol, but look closely and...meh, could've been better. Scarlett Johansson recently being called super hot, but again her face is plain avarage.It's their deamenor and represantation that makes them attractive.
So I think all those beauty standarts and "top 10, ratings etc" are just another way to make people feel bad and insecure.
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I suffer from the homer simpson mirror syndrome, when I look at some photos I think wtf do I look like that.
you should do a video on why feminine men and masculine women are attractive
S Dexter-Boone feminine men like a recessed small chin and jaw, big eyes with long eyelashes and sclera showing, pink pouty lips, tiny nose, arched eyebrows, skinny lanky body with pronounced hips, skinny delicate hands? That is so unattractive on a man
Just a minor correction. At 0:34 none of them are South East Asian. They are South Asian. Subcontinental origin people are categorized into South Asia as opposed countries like Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia and more who are South East Asian. đ
Could you go a video on why androgynous features tend to be appealing to teenage girls across the world? Pretty much every country with a prominent enough pop culture will have boy bands.
Do a video about facial asymmetry
Your videos are so well researched and over all so aesthetically pleasing! I canÂŽt imagine the hours of research and editing! Thank you!
Greetings from Germany!
I don't know how I found this channel but it's my favourite now! So informative
I love your videos. They are so educational and u talks about subjects people on CZcams dont often talk about. Your vids are also well edited and serve as a wonderful visual aid. I appreciate that you understand the importance of presenting what beauty is from a global standpoint, and what u said is quite factual which i value. U dont try to push an agenda with the research u have found which i find refreshing
You seem to be overlooking the cause of beauty ideals, not just being from inborn natural preferences, but also developed from early cultural conditioning.
All beauty is subjective, by definition.
(and by "subjective" I mean dependent on an individual subject, and not existing independent from our perception, even if all individual shared the identical beauty preference.)
Whether my attraction to a certain aesthetic quality/feature is instinctually hereditary, or conditioned socially, it doesn't necessarily change the fact of my preference. And I may be perfectly fine with that.
But it may be more significant to recognize the cause and nature of our beauty preferences, especially on a societal level, but even individually to be self aware so we may have a healthier relation to our personal relation to our own and others' bodies.
This actually makes a lot of sense. I always believed there is "beautiful" people, and that doesn't have to do with stereotypes and specific traits.
would you please make a video about "Lee Taeyong" face analysis cus i still cant beleive he's real actually i think he's an angel or maybe he came out of animation.
He's a celebrity artist (rapper,dancer model,visual...and he's known of his ethereal and outstanding beauty .
"Beauty is not as subjective as we once thought it was." When I said this sentence to people, they re always angry with me and didn't accept this. I always say "your personal taste or liking is relative.
If so, why people do nose job to have the straight and pointy noses, plump lips, high cheekbones or anything else. I never saw an odd human wants to having a big bony nose or a big mouth.
Poker Face people get upset with the truth. This is facts, that they donât want to accept. Funny because they themselves do the same thing
@@madisoncontroversial7348 yeah, because everyone wants to be liked by the other people as physical appearance.
In the end 99% of times we prefer a woman with
- oval shape
- medium to full lips
- small nose ( button nose or thin and sharp it depends) but still small
- skin without imperfections
- full brows more or less arched
- long eyelashes
- big and large eyes ( more cat eye or roundish it depends)
Small ears and shiny medium- long hair
Straight, white teeth
Then the details are different race by race and culture by culture but the base is always this
No , not the oval shape.
I prefer round face
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Yeah, those videos put me off plastic surgery indefinitely. My undesirable eyes hurt just by remembering them
I think if youâre going to generalize studies to all people or all women, you should cite ones that actually had diverse samples. For example, the Holzleitner and Perrett (2017) paper specifically excluded all people who were not white and only recruited women who are cisgendered and prominently were attracted to men. That is not a sample representative of all women in the United States and certainly not in all the world. If youâre going to make the point that culture doesnât matter and some traits are universally considered beautiful, itâs best to cite papers that have a sample representative enough to justify that claim.
those research didn't take time into consideration. beauty standard is never gonna be time invariant... it has so much to do with environment and a lot other stuff. and btw correlation does not mean causality...to make any definitive conclusion is ridiculous. Being in the research community myself, honestly the last thing I trust is the those fancy "papers"...
Stop hiding the subscriber count. Your content is pretty great !
Wha does he hide it?
4:47 I donât think so tho.... some of loved male celebs have feminine features and they have tons of fangirls
B T Timothee chalamet isnât really masculine also most Kpop idols have feminine features due to the beauty standards for men there and they have tons of fangirls
It's mix actually
Some people derive purpose through offense and they will simply make it up so they can live another day
I'm high key obsessed with this series. Like I truly want to know how if I can portray these attractive features with makeup
The first 2 men are not south east asian they are South Asia. SE is Korea , Thailand etc. South Asia is India
am i the only female who is attracted to v-shaped jaw rather than square? square jaws and hollow cheeks are really a big turn off for me.
Fun fact: generally speaking, we as humans find pugs cute because of something called "epimeletic behavior" which is the instinct to nourish and protect puppies. It works on most mammals, even between different species, because all puppies share some common characteristics such as a bigger head in comparison to body, bigger skull in comparison to muzzle/face, big round eyes and soft, round features in general. Young dogs have rounder and shorter muzzles than adult dogs, pugs and similar breeds retain those features even growing up and we like them because they remind us of babies.
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Question: having a straight nose is a universal beauty standard yet some ethnicities have higher percentages of hooked noses... why? And does that mean that they are on average less attractive than ethnicities in which hooked noses are less common?
"With a not conventionally attractive SOUTHEAST ASIAN man"
*shows indian guy who is basically a SOUTH ASIAN MAN*
That was the point. Both men are Indian i.e, south Asian..
Tao Okamoto (the thumbnail) is so beautiful.
There is a point to bringing race into every discussion. Your videos do display information that includes universal standards, but your slideshow examples are NOT racial inclusive. All of the pictures chosen are predominately of people that could pass the archaic "paper bag test" from early American segregation times.
Your videos are logical, but showing examples of more people in the African diaspora can further prove that these are universal standards. Black people often have completely different feature shapes outside of the mainstream beauty standards, but showing a lot more examples of us who apply would add depth to your videos.
Physical attributes such as height are universally attractive, even till this day, even though human beings haven't lived in the savannah's of africa for atleast 50,000 years.
Im afro latina and I freaking agree we dont need to bring race into EVERY discussion. Damn!
Since you're eventually gonna talk about east asia beauty standard. I wanted to say that in asia, most high fashion asian models are considered ugly. There are few cases like Tao Okamoto who is featured in this video and is considered pretty but not a good example of their beauty standard, she's a little too angular and masculine for a woman in their eyes. Their top actors are more accurate--and not talking about asian americans/international asian actors, they also find them ugly. Only actors that started their career in mainland asia or mainly based in asia then later transition to hollywood that are considered goodlooking like Daniel Wu and Claudia Kim. I can't think of any asian american hollywood based actor they find goodlooking. There was even a hot topic about this with simu liu(asian american actor) who will star in a marvel movie, Chinese people were saying he wasn't handsome enough and that westerners like a specific "asian look".
Here few actors considered to be the most good looking in Asia: (imo Kim Tae-hee & Won bin are the epitome)
women: Song Hye Kyo, Liu Yifei, Kim Tae Hee, Ishihara Satomi and Haruka Ayase
men: Won Bin, Toshiro Mifune, Yang Yang, Hu Ge, Takeshi Kaneshiro and Haruma Miura
There was another one too where a asian high fashion model had freckles and chinese people freaked out! they said it was a bad representation of chinese people and that the model was ugly. It's not just chinese, korean people always go on about how hollywood and fashion industry likes ugly asians because it's more exotic to them.
I think the only asian celebs that nonasian/westerners consider goodlooking, and mainland asians can also agree with are Im Jin-ah and Godfrey Gao.
I find it great that you cover that topic with scientific facts. Maybe you can react or take a look at the video from Vegan Gains about the game Mass Effect Andromeda? Many people disagree with him but I think he talks the truth.
may be your analyses is quiet true but some people (men or woman) don't have these standards beauty with precise dimensions but they are attractive ! in my north african culture we call this "a mystery" or we said he or she is salty , i think in this case is more powerful because we can not understand or mesure why he or she is attractive
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As a bisexual I agree, I never knew that was a thing. I'm attracted to femininity in both men and women :)
Fair and lovely is basically Racism in a tube..... sad but very true
No, it's not.
@I'm done When I was in France during the summer, I remember all the Asian girls avoided the sun like the plague ,Koreans, Japanese and Chinese. You could see them always wearing a parasol and Solar cream, Italians and Spanish girls on the other hand didn't give a fuck. I asked a Japanese classmate why she was so scared of the sun and she told me that men in Japan prefer girls that have fair skin.
I'm done did you forget that India was colonized by europeans..? do you know what colorism is?
@@F.A.-- YES it is!!! as an indian i know how it has been harming the self esteem of millions so girls in India
@I'm done it maybe a sweeping statement for u my man but it is the ugly truth of the Indian society and their obsession with having lighter skin ....
My life is blessed with this face