How to Change Your Vortec 8.1 / 8100 Engine Oil & Oil Filter on A Workhorse Chassis and Much More
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- Not your standard oil change video, We will be discussing 5w30 vs 10w30 Different Oil Filter options
Oil Filter bypass Check Valves and how they work, Normal oil pressure along with tips on changing oil and filter with out making a mess.
Wix 1 quart Oil Filter # 51060 amzn.to/3NjhapV
Mobil 1 10w 30 amzn.to/3pe2noF takes 6.5 quarts prox
Motor Oils Viscosity vs Fuel Economy vs. Engine Wear a great read see link below
www.machinerylubrication.com/...
Omey's Web site For Workhorse cross references
www.oemys-performance.com/whpa...
This work was performed on a 2005 Winnebago Voyage 38J on a w24 Workhorse Chassis
Btw....oil fill with cut off oil bottle: Genius!!! Can't count how many expletives have been spilled along with oil trying to get it in that fill spout.
Thank you for the kind words Dan, I enjoy solving little annoying problems like that..lol
Thanks!
Good video. I especially like the punctured oil filter trick. I use the 2qt Wix filter and fill it up before installation. I attached a big zip tie above the oil fill to hold a funnel when putting in new oil from the 5qt jugs. It just stays attached for use the next time.
Thank you for contributing.
Great tips like the ideal of the hole in the filter,always have filled the filter with oil .
Kevin, you are amazing! Thank you for this video (and your other videos)!
Your to kind,, thank you
So helpful! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this!
I use a fumoto drain valve on my pan. Just slip a clear plastic tube on it and insert into my oil drain pan. Makes for a really clean job.
I have seen those I just don't have the courage to trust one...lol
@@ktoutdoor I struggled with it for a while as well, but it is spring loaded AND has a safety clip that locks it closed. Just seeing that oil running down that clear tube instead of my arm made it easier!!!
Great tips. Especially about adding oil in the new filter before installing. Thanks you Kevin.
Thanks for watching Dave PS I watched your Plane ride in the 1928 ford tri motor, did you know they used those engines in M4 Sherman Tanks
On the 4wd truck we have to run the short filter because of the front driveshaft. I use the WIX XP though, it says right on it that it's for 8.1 4wd applications! For what it's worth, I used to swear by Mobil 1. I always had oil pressure problems in an old 90s chevy with 360k miles running Mobil 1 high mileage 10w40. I switched to Redline 5w30 and the oil pressure is so consistent and perfect that I thought the gauge was broken and attached a mechanical gauge to double check. Redline oil is made in a completely different process and doesn't use viscosity modifiers to stay thick at high temps, it's just better oil. If that's too exotic for your taste, the hot stuff right now is the Shell Rotella Gas Truck. It blows Mobil 1 away in every test I've seen. Note also that these engines don't burn so much oil around the rings, they drink it though the PCV system. One day I'll modify my intake, but mine does not use oil very bad.
great info
thanks
Thanks for the tip looks like I got some reading to do. I came across this about testing
www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/auto-care/all-about-oil/ask-our-auto-experts/oil-film-strength-of-mobil-1-compared-with-royal-purple
enjoy learning from your videos. just bought a 2004 33' class A on the P32 chassis last year and am learning quite a bit.
Thanks for letting me know ..
Stay tuned more to come.
Have a blessed day.
I've always used a Klein #1 Phillips screwdriver to punch a hole in the oil filter. I think that's what I han at the time, and have used one every time since. The center of the filer is where the bypass valve is located so it might not be as easy to put a hole at that point as it is closer to the edge.
And you never told me!! lol I just learned this trick...
Another great video, I always learn something new!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is very good thank you
Thanks for watching
We have some 8.1 in fleet...450+K and still strong.
~6500 miles per change. Wix Regular or Napa Gold (same filter,) and full synth.
Seriously? What chassis are they in?
Wow that is some good news can you imagine 450,000 mile on a RV ? That would be a lot of traveling.
Really should run DexOs branded 5w30 synthetic oil in this engine to prevent the dreaded lifter tick. You don't really benefit from using 10w30 as the oil passages in the lifters are tiny and it takes longer for the oil to fill the lifter. Retired GM Master tech 40 years in service bay.
I have never heard of that brand before I will have to check out.. I did see this
Dexos® oils are formulated exclusively with synthetics or synthetic blends. Better antioxidant technology that keeps oil from oxidizing. Dexos® oils generally have a drain interval of up to 15,000 miles. Lower viscosity that holds up to engine combustion and heat better and longer than other oils on the market.
I cant imagine putting 15,000 miles on my oil and what would the filter look like after that many miles?
Hey Kevin. So many times I feel I owe you money for the time and aggravation you have saved me on my W24 RV. Hopefully, one day we'll cross RV paths and I can buy you dinner and a beer, at least. My two cents of feedback: I feel your pain watching you try to do so many things one handed and give us a good video. Time to fire up a go-fund-me page so all us grateful folks can donate to your head-camera fund so you'll have two free hands going forward.
Glad to hear My videos have been helpful I got full hookup waiting for you if your ever in Kentucky, we also winter form Jan till April in Kissimmee Florida.
I have thought about those head mounts but I would always worry if what I was working on was in the shot. If you have any questions about anything my cell is 606-875-0125 Kevin
After watching this video, and reading thru the comments, I am wondering if you have decided on using motor oil that meets the dexos requirements? I, like you, change oil regularly, but in an effort to prolong the engine's life the dexos formula seems like it might be beneficial. I have learned so much from your videos, thanks again.
Thanks Larry I did some research and I'm not convinced that this oil would be good for our large 8.1 watch this czcams.com/video/gMHZd4SykhU/video.html
Also read this about the march to thinner oils vs engine ware www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/518/motor-oils
In fact our service manual tells us we will have less oil consumption if we use a straight 30w oil in our 8.1 as long as the temperature is above 40 degrees
Let me know what you think.
@@ktoutdoor I agree with your logic that sticking with the factory recommended oil make sense after reading Machinery Lubrication article. How did you come to using Wix filters in lieu of AC Delco or Napa? All seem to have a good, better, and best style.
@@larryv4249 Long time habit I think, It has consistent good reviews. I remember many years ago consumer reports did a study and the Fram filter rated very poor do to the fact it filtered to good and would stop up and go into bypass mode, not sure if that's still the case. But I still like my 1 quart Wix filter
Great video Kev!! You want to do another video on the Power Steering filter?!? Hahaha
I’m not a mechanic so your video was especially helpful to me. The parts store sold me a 1/2 quart filter 😖, glad to know what you use. Punching the hole to drain will make it much easier.
I have a question maybe you’ll help with. I recently noticed my 2004 w-22 leans . I measured the rear and it’s several inches off side to side. The spring shop wants to add a leaf to the bottom - both sides. I’d rather replace the springs but I’m told they are not available. I opted against “blocking”? What would your suggestion be? By the way , my fault , I stored it full of gas and water 🙄. I didn’t know better but I do now.
Many Thanks
Jack&Molly
Good news you can still buy those leaf spring for your RV
www.ultrarvproducts.com/W0012886-Leaf-Spring-Asm-Parabolic-Rear,-RH
www.ultrarvproducts.com/W0012885-Leaf-Spring-Asm-Parabolic-Rear,-LH
Let me know what you end up doing 606-875-0125 Kevin
Ya take the old stuff out and put the new stuff in. Works every time.
So is it better to use the 5w-30 that’s on the oil cap or this oil?
I prefer the 10w 30 read this story. Let me know what you think. www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/518/motor-oils
The manual will also tell you it's fine to run straight 30w in warm climates
is that the Allison transmission on your motorhome? how long is your motorhome? i noticed it has a grade brake.
Yes Allison 2100MH 38 foot 2005 Winnebago 38J
@@ktoutdoor Gas?
Yes 8.1 vortec
I use the Ac oil filter that's what it came with from GM
Great video Kevin. In fact all your videos are quite good. Do you know what size of thread is on the oil plug? I saw someone else who installed Fumoto Series Drain Valve with Short Nipple with Lever Clip. This allows for attaching a drain hose and directing the oil to a pan. I have the same engine on workhorse chassis. Thanks
Great idea but they scare me just a little watch this czcams.com/video/Dm6Tq0nBQeU/video.html
The 8.1 Vortec uses a M12 X 1.75
Shouldn't use a 180 degree thermostat either. Running below 195 degrees causes the engine computer to add fuel trying to bring the engine up to temp. Run the 195 degree thermostat to ensure quick entry into closed fuel loop control.
They recommend thinner oil 5w30 due to closer engine tolerances. The info you are quoting on oil viscosity is hopelessly out of date information.
Thank you for contributing but unless things have changed they sometimes do I was going by the Workhorse service manual that states 10w-30 is fine as long as temperature is above zero degrees I got this info from page 17 of the workhorse chassis guide I can email you a copy if you like. I should have pointed that out in the video. It also states to run a straight 30 weight if your having problems with oil consumption, I also monitor my open and closed loop and it goes closed at around 130 degrees.
PS: I would like to pick your brain about the GM tech 2 if you could reach out to me by phone or email,, my cell is 606-875-0125 My email is kc5210@gmail.com
Have a blessed day. Hope to hear from you.
Quality Filter. 21 microns compared to the XP at 30-35. (Moving target and constantly changing on most brands of extended mileage filters)
That is how they make them last longer.
That's good to know and scary at the same time.
To reset the oil, with key on, just go to the percentage. Press and hold the arrow/reset till it flashes reset oil meter. Press again and done.
That gas key gas key etc etc is not needed.
GT could you please explain this further. Just changed my oil yesterday. I know what Kevin is talking about, I have done that before when the change oil sign appears on dash. I am not sure what you are saying I should do. Or how to do it. Please be more specific.
Please clarify I don't see that option on our 2005 W24 Workhorse
There is no Comparison to have here with regard to the 5/30 10/30 debate. Use 5w30 even if the model says 10w30. The oil moves quicker when it's cold. End of debate
GM uses the 1/2 qt oil filter so the total fill is 7 qts instead of 7.5 with the larger filter.
No real benefit from using the incorrect filter.
I know 1/2 is most likely fine I just like the ideal of the more surface area of the filter media with the 1 quart filter, I know a lot of 8.1 owners that run the 2 quart version