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- Does Gareth Southgate get unfairly criticised? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Alex Crook have their say!
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Unbelievably he will go down as one of the best managers we have had when the reality is very different. Watching England under Southgate is soul destroying.
Simon gets it. I feel the same. I really don't relate to this england team at all
No, one, cares
â@@joestuttard1495 i do
@@joestuttard1495 Obviously some do as the comment at this time has 25 likes, 24 more than this comment. Just saying.
Some feel the same from the same womb, so U can turn off the TV đ€·ââïž
Relate to them? It's football not politics.
Christ, that Southgate interview, i almost fell asleep faster than watching England play
If you're falling asleep don't watch him or England
@@user-kg9rt3jh1z calm down bro, Southgate isn't going to sleep with you, you don't have to defend him
@@guitaringjarmin I am calm pal I just dislike fans like yourself, if you think it's boring turn off your TV instead of moaning
@@user-kg9rt3jh1z I bet you sit in the corner watching your wife
You have no business watching a game of football. This is adult stuff. Go do your homework.
Comedy should be banned it's upsetting to Gareth.... according to Jim
There is obviously concerns when the ai is so realistic and it is saying something damaging, but these gareth clips can clearly be seen to be fake and a joke straight away, it's just a digital version of spitting image.
@@HaroldSeamanđ Jimâs just an old todger, he needs to be in a nursing home not on live radio
If England can win this tournament playing the rubbish we have seen so far, it will be a sad, sad day for football..
The quality of football in this tournament has been the worst Iâve ever seen, absolutely awful apart from a few games.
Simon, played a blinder there. Best English performance at the Euros so far!
I cannot stand Southgate
Why, whatâs he ever done to you?! Idiotic comment
He probably wouldn't like you either.
Southgate has had the best squad of players of any England manager, yet he thinks it is all down to his tactical nous.
@@user-ug1cj2nd8y Are you his lover??
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Absolutely spot on Simonđ I am getting frustrated how the players and Gareth are going on to the English fans.
Poor you đ you felt the need voice your opinion but the the England manager and players getting real abuse canât say anything. The media have got right where they want you đ€Ą
He gets an easy ride compared to England managers of the past. He needs to grow a pair.
You can't hide the wokeness.............................
He should be in Parliament, saying a lot while not saying much.
In YOUR opinion.
@@thewomble1509 Southgate not Simon Jordan.
@@willow666able Sorry, my apologies. I agree, he would make an ideal back bench yes man.
Southgate is not willing to drop Kane whoâs not performing, and is reactive rather than proactive when making substitutions. Weâve gotten away with it so far, but as we start to face tougher teams, Iâm not feeling confident.
Kane and Southgate are both the problems. Kane has a history of bottling: failed to score to make it 2-0 v Croatia in 2018, ghosted in 2021 final, failed to score the pen in 2022. They're both allergic to winning trophies.
The other national teams are not as dominant as their results may suggest⊠Netherlands donât have top players in the best leagues âŠ.Spain is intense but similar to the Dutch the core of the group are not in the best teams and that leaves FranceâŠ.they are waiting to get flogged, whoâs there to flog them?
@@Redandwhite_bluesuedeshoes At least theyâre playing with 11 men that are all positively contributing to the team. Unfortunately, Kane has been playing in a way thatâs detrimental to the team. Players like Saka constantly find themselves not having someone to pass to, or they pass to him and he easily loses the ball - which then gives the opposition an advantage. The past few games England found themselves having only 10 minutes or so to quickly score because they were losing. Thatâs a risky way to play.
Out of all the teams left in the competition I think that England have the strongest individual players, but as a collective Team it doesnât look good.
@@RA-wp6th playing with Kane is like playing with 10 men...and no left side as well
I'd bench Foden too (Doesnt play for England like he does for Man City). Start Palmer or Eze
Some people think they are worth ÂŁ5 million a year,I don't think they are.
unacceptable to have anything thrown at him but the âgolden generationâ faced prime brazil, portugalx2 and germany in tournaments⊠southgate has only beaten teams were expected to
Heâs a bloody tube. Whyâs he even listening to the media as England manager get on with the job (possibly pick players in their correct position and even push the boat out and make a sub or two!)
Win or lose, we will always remember that Southgate had no positive influence over the football these players exhibited. We will always credit the players for their individual performances because we cannot praise the team's performances.
That AI video was hilarious, get a sense of humour.
Resign, Southgate.
Listening to Southgate is like listening to Keir Starmer. ZZZZZZzzzzz...
Or any politician, they are all the same.
Well ones a politician and the other is the leader of the labour party
@@theoneandonlygus1 Farage is the same as Sunak? or STARMER?! can I have what your taking?
@@user-ug1cj2nd8y Yip they are all liars, do you believe in any thing they say.
@@user-ug1cj2nd8y yes because they are all fecking liars, Capeech? đ Do you believe in what any politician says? Your not really a sheep are you?
How does Jim white not understand what theyâre saying lol
if he agrees with them, then there is nothing to talk about and the show is boring lol
Because dark times create dark humour and no-one knows less about dark times than an overpaid subservient media type
Totally and utterly agree with everything Simon says. We havenât played a decent team yet but weâve stumbled and bumbled through.
Iâm just waiting for the inevitable England defeat when we come up against a half-decent side.
As a West Ham fan it's like David Moyes all over again, inching out dreary wins at the expense of my sanity. I hope now so people can appreciate what watching 38 games of football like this over the course of a season can be like.
So pleased the don Simon Jordon is back we missed him đ
Gareth takes all the credit for "getting to 3 semi-finals in 4 tournaments"
...now name the teams we beat to get there
Excellent point đŻ
Imagine Man Utd playing Brentford, Stoke, Luton, Sheffield Utd and Crystal Palace to reach a semi final. Is that a great achievement by Ten Hag???
People should also question why he couldnât reach the semis of the 2022 wc if he could reach the semis in the other three tournaments
@@yoshiwoollyworld exactly, France was their first real test of the WC and they lost. Now they seem to think they can get past Holland and Spain or France
WGAF
He get pay 5 million year for 12 game and he crying and moaning
Stop being so wet Southgate!
The bottom line is: if Southgate is still manager for the World cup campaign, I won't be watching England any more. I've watched 8 years of boring anti-football, playing not to lose. I've got better things to do with my time that watching that. Everyone else is free to make their decision, but mine is already made. If England can't play more attractive, front-foot football, I'll do something else when they are playing.....
The early Southgate teams were actually good to watch! And youâve only just started watching England 8 years ago if thatâs the case đ when did England ever play attractive football on a regular basis? Iâll wait đ„±
Bye Bye
Southgate never heard of Spitting Image?
Iâm very confident we will get past the Dutch but if we donât I also wonât be gutted as itâs obvious weâve been lucky so far. Really really obvious
Southgate got an easy run to the semis in every tournament except the last World Cup, you play a good team in the quarterfinals and guess what happens, get easy games and the semi finals are achievable. Southgate has been lucky in 3 out of 4 tournaments with the draw and ending up on the easy side
If people throw 12Euro beer at you then think why?
No you don't, they are prats.
Try letting the players of the leash Southgate, it's painful .
Hope Holland triumph. England have been awful.
Holland have been shite too, in all fairness
â@@user-ug1cj2nd8y- The whole tournament's been shite. Snoozefest.
My god Southgate's voice is the cure for insomnia
Southgate keeps going on about 3 semi finals in 4 tournaments. Is it an achievement to get top 8 when you're ranked top 5?? Is it not like pep or arteta bragging about a europa league spot??
Football isn't about reaching your third semi final Gareth. It's about winning the FINAL. Who the phock remembers if we reached the semi final three times in a row.....stuepssssssssssssssssssssssss
The most unlikeable set of players that England have ever had. It will be a sad day if they somehow manage to win this tournament
Makes me laugh all these people going on about being entertained...If your Club won the Premiership playing shite football most wouldnt care...Its a Results driven business im afraid...If ya dont want to support England against Netherlands dont bother but stop trying ti make a Big Think About it đ
We haven't won anything...so your point is...
5 million a year. Cry me a river Gareth
7:05 "I sit in the media but I'm not of the media" I'm sorry Simon but you ARE of the media. You might see yourself on a higher pedestal but thats what you've chosen to do here on Talksport.
He doesn't talk like Lineker etc in that he doesn't need to praise the players. He says exactly what he thinks.
He also hates being called a journalist đ
He revels in the praise he got when he reached a semi final and a final yet at the sniff of criticism he throws his toys out the pram. You cant have it both ways and if youre too weak to take stick you shouldnt even be in football, as a manager or player. It comes with the territory and its been like that since the beginning of time.
Dont accept the plaudits either, though, Gareth, if you cant accept criticism when you fail.
He hasn't failed though. He's reached another semi final
Jimâs definitely had a tipple or two in Germany
but Jim don't drink though
@@zachoonsbeen sober a long while.
He doesn't need alcohol to have fun
Itâs all irrelevant now, you simply have to just get behind the team and accept the same dross will occur from here till the end and hope for a miracle.
However if the fa renew southgates contract after this tournament the entire board should be stood down. His tactics have been found out and in 4 years nothing has changed. The same type of players benefit from Garethâs system and the ones with creativity play 2 minute cameo roles.
They are such an unlikeable team...I'm honestly not bothered if they win or not.
"We wanted to give people nights like tonight" - another terrible performance and lucky not to get knocked out by a mediocre team, just like in the last 16!
Theyâve been dog all tournament⊠heâs on 5 mill a year ⊠the rest of us are struggling. Deal with it!
Jordan is right, the manager is chairman of the lucky club and the players are totally unrelatable and hard to like.
Remember when roberto de matteo won the champions league trophy but didnât do anything because lampard, terry and drogba were running that team.
We play such poor football, that I almost feel asleep watching the Switzerland game. This is an entertainment business, of course it's a balance with getting results but we've been dreadful.
I've almost got to the point where I don't care, because it's so dull. Beating Slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland doesn't thrill us, when we struggled in every game. I know that some teams are resilient, but we are getting 3-4 shots on target in 120 minutes, we are not peppering the goal and the keeper is nothaving a worldie
When have England ever played Tiki-Taka or jogo bonito? đ
We are not peperring the goal and no goalie is having a worldie against us. Where are you getting that from? You said yourself we get 3/4 shots on target in 120 mins.
Southgates had the easiest possible pathways to those semi-finals and then lost in a poor fashion on each of those times
I think Simon misses the point a little bit in the way society has changed. His generation of âsuck it upâ and take abuse with a stiff upper lip is not the way younger generations have been taught to approach life. They push back and give their thoughts and feelings. Itâs not to say one is right or wrong but thatâs the reality
The Monty Python referenceđđ
Southgate is a victim and he's made the team feel like victims too. Our captain and manager have never won a trophy in a colleted 45+ career. Cant believe how quickly Spain turned it around when we took 8 years to develop this kind of football.
Look at Ericson's three quarter finals in a row. Regardless of whether or not they should have done better, look at all the misfortunes.
2002. Pre tournament injuries to Gerrard and Neville. Beckham broke his metatarsal in April ( is that why he bottled it for Brazil's equaliser?)
04. No Rio due to the drugs test thing. Rooney breaking his foot against Portugal. Campbell's perfectly good goal being disallowed.
06. Rooney injured before the tournament. Owen limping out during the group stage. Beckham went off early during Portugal game, before Rooney followed him for the stamping.
Bobby Robson, Hoddle and Fabio could point to similar moments.
Southgate has suffered no significant injuries (depending on your view of McGuire), no sending offs, no dodgy refereeing decisions. In 4 tournaments!! I'm standing next to that man in an electric storm!!
Don't forget Glenn Hoddle's 1998 team we had a player sent off in the Quarter finals against Argentina (Beckham). Scored in extra time (Sol Campbell) that was chalked off incorrectly imho. And for me that was our best and most balanced team I have ever seen in my lifetime.
I remember Italy in a world cup ,didnt win 1 group match drew all 3 was even defensive in the qfs and managed to get to the semis ,basically was a lot worse then england ,then turn it on in the semi and final and won the thing
" ...we got to another Semi Final " - what a low bar.
4 games poor =criticism
Match against Switzerland much better =praise
The criticism was fully deserved theyâre too soft
Most media-protected England manager in the history of football management.
Iâm starting to believe until we get found out
There's nothing to find out, sometimes teams just find a way to get over the line and that's what we've done so far.
Spot on Iâm the same if u play in this manner u best win
Is Southgate married? Can't his wife phone him and tell him to stop going on about media criticism. It's sounds dreadful. Parents, brother, sister anyone give him kick up the backside and tell him to concentrate on getting the team playing better
Cant see us getting past holland with how we play either we step it up or we're out. Holland are better than the swiss.
So many parallels with West Ham under Moyes. Everyone gave Hammersâ fans hassle for moaning about crappy winning football, so be careful what you wish for? đ
Gareth is a liberal what do you expect.
At least weâve shut the Scots up thereâs no shame in getting knocked out a Semi Final.
1 win in 5 games Southgate is deluded quite honestly. Heâs the David Moyes of international management.
Strong delusions of grandeur and too arrogant to change players or formation at the correct time.
That is seriously harsh on David Moyes who has had a very good career.
Moyes levels above tbh
David Moyes is a far better manager than Southgate tbf
Howâs France getting on btw?
Just listening to him bores me and is like uninspiring.
My eyes don't lie and watching his brand of football going on 6 games now is actually dreadful
Exactly Gareth! 3 semi finals out of 4 is great but we are still classed as losers when this squad can be winners this time round and Iâm not convinced so far.
Regarding the Jude Bellingham comments. Heâs right Jude hasnât been great. He scored a goal in first game but was fairly anonymous in that game, did nothing in the other 2 group games. Then a world class goal against Slovakia but didnât know he was on the pitch for 90 mins and an average performance with little hints of class.
Love Jude and a lot of other players in that group but by no means no one has been great this tournament apart from guehi, in which konsa stepped up when called in.
The press in England never sport their teams
When these players are at their own FC's they are SURROUNDED by mostly WORLD-CLASS Players but....... when in their England shirt/team, they are SEPERATED FROM the world class players and then HAVE to Work together, mostly ALL STRANGERS in a common cause, PLAY BRILLIANTLY NOW FOR English FANS and Media or Risk their WRATH !!!!!!! Southgate is up against It for sure.
Same as all people in high places.. They start off saying the right things ..But time proves their arrogance and inability to be the real person they started off with they loose all sense of proportion
Southgate is genuinely pathetic. wtf was that interview. Grow a pair. Youâre the England coach ffs, if youâre performing badly and the team are performing badly, then you deserve criticism. Iâm sick of this team throughout this entire tournament moaning that the criticism theyâre facing is unfair. And i feel similar to Simon, I canât get behind this team because they donât deserve anything.
Lol i dont think jim will understand what AI is. Hes thinks its a single individual making contenet đ
Replace Southgate with AI Southgate
The Talksport mob are desperate for this England team to loose... you've heard it đ đđ
I like Simon but Wanting England to lose is disgraceful, weâve had 17 different managers since we won the World Cup & none of them have done any better
imagine if we got an all or nothing on the england squad
You've not mentioned the Bus Parade Timetable yet.
Shame on you .
Crook; "The media isn't against the manager, but we'll win beside him" yeah okay mate bit of a contradiction in terms, given these players are the ones who have been under performing. Can't win!
Simon is defo a reform voterđ
It's quiet funny that Simon says he's an "outcome" business now that it's england and Southgate but, he campaigns ETH sacked at Man united for the same outcome the latter produces.
The players and coach need to realise they are in the entertainment business
Simon absolutely spot on
He's not alone....
Dark times create dark humour
It does seem strange that we are now somehow in the last 4. Its like we've just ghosted our way in.
It also seems strange that we've played better football for decades in previous tournaments and fallen short, and now we are playing terribly and we may actually win this.
It's because safegate has had the flukiest draws ever and still fails every time we play anyone
As we keep saying, nice guy who is completely out of his depth.
It's a one game tournament for England
We aren't playing as well as we could be, and Southgate has made some judgements regarding player positions and substitutions
But stop all this moaning. It is tiring and completely unnecessary at this point.
We are in the semi final of the tournament
Keep your glass half full ffs
At this point, I don't care how much Gareth and the players get paid for what they do. That is not their fault.
I don't care how we win games or get through them
We haven't won anything for 58 years. We have never been that good and never as good as we seem to think we are!!
The other nations qualify for a reason and they have set themselves up well against us. It's a tough tournament.
I don't care if Gareth sticks up for himself at press conferences and says he doesn't beer thrown at him.
That's not unprofessional.
Just moan if or when we get knocked out
Southgate has had the best squad of players of any England manager, yet he thinks it is all down to his tactical nous. Get out of here Southgate!
Anyone with a brain knows southgate plays boring football and has got incredibly lucky with EVERY draw he has had in international football. We would have got knocked out by anyone decent! That being said we can win these euros because there are NO elite teams - Netherlands and France are doing the same as us, playing defensive football and getting through. Spain are playing best football but poor defensively. This is another GOLDEN opportunity to win a euros and if we don't it will be a waste.
Id rather stink the gaff out and win than lose in a epic 4-3
If football was about winning titles and trophies then why does Simon support Crystal Palace????
Maybe that's his local club ? Like I support Newcastle cause it's my local club, not because they win trophies
No definitely doesn't deserve it decent manager I think personally you can only beat whats in front of you & he has.
I think Frank Lampard should get the job, at least he would get England playing Attacking football
What do you want gareth to do...boot up and get on the pitch? Of course it's because of the players...the way it's always been about the players. Do you think Phil scolari used to have to tell Ronaldo, rivaldo and Ronaldinho how to play....they scuffed a free kick and knocked england out in 2002....was that the manager or pure luck?? The argument is a non argument when it comes to fine margins that settle international football.
Well said, Simon....I totally agree..
To many players are entitlement kind of players.
Zero battling for a place in the team.
Seems like Southgate aims for heroic failure, that to him is success.
Jim is so daft
we still remember the boring greeks