Apparently it is possible to get your money back in this case: www.lttstore.com/pages/statement-on-taxes-in-europe-uk-and-norway I've shot them an email. Let's see what they respond with.
I've been through that process before. On EU entry you have to pay VAT again which LTT has refunded me after I've given them proof of double taxing. It does take some time though.
@@BoyCcns Hopefully they will refund me and I can make a followup video. Those customs documents are not in English and I'm not sure if the guy from the post didn't mess something up, because if it was VAT it should've been around 55 EUR, but it was 123 EUR (import tax? random extortion tax? idk).
@@CrypticBore 9 days in and still waiting for a reply. Last I've heard they are busy with the holiday season and Black Friday sales. I'll definitely make a video when this concludes.
I would have brought one in a heart beat but the pricing is similar to get it to Australia....so it's a hard pass. Edit: I purchased a helicopter 🚁 instead
Was just looking for opinions on the LTT backpack and found your video. Just wanted to say, very well made and edited considering your subscribers! But would also recommend cutting the music when you are speaking. Best of luck with your channel.
Yea, I noticed the music too and it could definitely work it was just too loud and, as r1ch said, it also overpowered your voice completely. I'd recommend focusing on improving sound experience if you aren't/hadn't already.
Update on this: In a recent Wan show they said they might work with a company to keep some stock in the EU, this will cut down on shipping costs but he's not 100% sure if that shop will use the same prices as lttstore... I estimate that once they announce it, the entire stock will be sold out and they'll have to send wayyyy more over.
I feel you man. I ordered their backpack with a water bottle and a screwdriver in one order. I'm still waiting for it, but I already know I'll be paying around 15€ more for customs processing fee by the post office (after already paying one to the guys who shipped the thing for LTT, as part of the shipping cost on their end - seriously, how tf is this still legal?), and god knows how much more in taxes I'll actually pay once it's ready for pick up. Yes, I still don't have it. Worst part is, it quite literally might've been cheaper to make three separate orders and pay shipping three times... (GG Europe)
the netherlands (postnl) is super annoying with this. everything from aliexpress goes through fine with "customs", yet everything else i order anywhere else always goes "wrong" and they stick on the retarded handling fees... coincidence that postnl as a fixed agreement with aliexpress for the shipping
First video I’ve seen to actually compare it to the 5.11 backpack. I always assumed it was a lot smaller than my 5.11. Good to know that comparison now. Thanks!
I've also bought it with the assumption that it's going to be smaller. 5.11 gets a lot puffier if you stuff it and it can fit almost twice as much as LTT though.
I live in Germany and ordered a screwdriver and some other things. The package arrived two days ago without any additional costs. Guess I was lucky that the customs handling worked as intended. btw: 30 EUR for customs handling, that's insane. The German Post takes 6 EUR.
Well, it's 30 EUR for the first 4 items, if there are more it's additional 6 EUR per item. When I previously bought LTT deskpads everything went through smoothly without additional costs or fees. As far as understand LTT declares everything correctly for EU imports, it's just that sometimes the system doesn't understand the tariff codes.
On the side with the straps, left-bottom-cornor there is a RFID pocket. Also on the inside where you can store a water bottle, whereby there where the water bottle compartment is, there is the 'hidden' AirTag Pocket. ;)
Huh, crazy, it's like shipping large things around the world costs a lot of money. I've ordered many a thing from the EU/UK who's shipping costs more than the value of the item. It is what it is. Now the double tax thing or import fees, that really sucks.
Nice video was thinking about this, as I think quality would be pretty good from LTT. However, looking at your video does look a bit too big and I also don’t think it’s worth the import duties into Europe. Still might of considered it if they had a European store or had had it sold through Amazon in Europe I.e they could of just sent directly from china to Amazon warehouse and fulfilled by them.
I’m glad the video helped you with the decision. It’s a bulky backpack, but it doesn’t fit much inside due to padding. Just like anything, there’s a right tool for the job. LTT backpack is still my go to choice for carrying electronics and related equipment safely. If I need to bring 4 sixpacks from the store, or go camping - it’s 5.11 backpack all the way. And they’re both the same size from outside.
You’ll be surprised, but this video was shot on iPhone 12 Pro. Video quality is not too good compared to a proper camera when viewing locally, but after CZcams compression camera barely makes a difference (given the same focal length, environment, etc). My newest video at the moment is shot on Lumix S5 with kit lens if you want to compare. Or I could make a comparison video if you’d be interested
I've read that they might return the fees if you contact their support with the documents. I'd say it's worth a try, hopefully you'll get your fees back.
Yes do check out that link - the issue is that people in UK are being charged VAT twice, but LTT will reimburse this for you. But they will not reimburse import duties and fees, which is a separate fee.
Čia su muitine kažkas nepaėjo. LTT viską tvarkingai apiformina, tik pas mus pasipinigaut nori. Man LTT grąžino 63 eurus mokesčių kuriuos pas juos mokėjau. Po to rašiau prašymą muitinei, kad perskaičiuotu, bet atmetė.
i mean taxes arent ltt's fault... i gues if you know some one coming over from canada it would be worth asking them to bring the backpack over for you lol. but 500 is a lot.
I don't see any way to justify purchasing this backpack, even if they refund your double taxation. That they designed this purely for NA air regulations make it practically useless for the EU, because who would want to bring this big a pack on short trips or during commuting?
Carry on limits differ from US or North America and EU, or the rest of the world. This backpack is made for and in line with the requirements for NA users, not European ones. The fact that you did not mention this, is a bit idiotic. I like your production level, if you tone down the levels on those annoying music tracks, honestly, it makes your channel sound cheap and it's 101 in terms of what you should avoid on CZcams, you can garner some audience.
For 120 Euros you could have bought a nice Manfrotto or Targus, granted, smaller, but probably better quality and for sure better return policy and warranty.
Thank you for the comment. The carry on limits depend on the airline and I think I’ve mentioned that, and since Europe and NA have different airlines, that means that Europe and NA will automatically have different limits, but I guess I could’ve been more explicit. Of course LTT being a Canadian brand will mostly cater to the NA market / standards, and that is totally fine. In the end it’s not about buying the most cost efficient backpack (because there are many with better ROI), but more about supporting a brand that I love. It just sucks that the government also wants their cut. And yes, from the comments I can see that I will need to tone down the music; on my speakers the mastering level seemed fine, but I guess I should also check how it sounds on many different speakers.
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Apparently it is possible to get your money back in this case: www.lttstore.com/pages/statement-on-taxes-in-europe-uk-and-norway
I've shot them an email. Let's see what they respond with.
I've been through that process before. On EU entry you have to pay VAT again which LTT has refunded me after I've given them proof of double taxing. It does take some time though.
@@BoyCcns Hopefully they will refund me and I can make a followup video. Those customs documents are not in English and I'm not sure if the guy from the post didn't mess something up, because if it was VAT it should've been around 55 EUR, but it was 123 EUR (import tax? random extortion tax? idk).
@@ryt-is The paperwork I sent LTT was in Hungarian and they made it work, but yeah I only got back the taxes I paid in the LTT store upon purchase.
howd it go? anything?
@@CrypticBore 9 days in and still waiting for a reply. Last I've heard they are busy with the holiday season and Black Friday sales. I'll definitely make a video when this concludes.
It’s already a ridiculous purchase for us Americans. I have no idea how insane you’d have to be on to import it to the EU.
I would have brought one in a heart beat but the pricing is similar to get it to Australia....so it's a hard pass.
Edit: I purchased a helicopter 🚁 instead
Was just looking for opinions on the LTT backpack and found your video. Just wanted to say, very well made and edited considering your subscribers! But would also recommend cutting the music when you are speaking. Best of luck with your channel.
Thank you for the kind words! It sounded a bit dull without the music, but maybe I just have to get used to my voice.
Yea, I noticed the music too and it could definitely work it was just too loud and, as r1ch said, it also overpowered your voice completely. I'd recommend focusing on improving sound experience if you aren't/hadn't already.
as in 2023 my shiping cost was to Lithuania (EU)
Backpack= $249.99
Shipping = $49.99
Taxes = $63.00
Total = $362.98
and i recived in 15 days
Update on this: In a recent Wan show they said they might work with a company to keep some stock in the EU, this will cut down on shipping costs but he's not 100% sure if that shop will use the same prices as lttstore... I estimate that once they announce it, the entire stock will be sold out and they'll have to send wayyyy more over.
I feel you man. I ordered their backpack with a water bottle and a screwdriver in one order. I'm still waiting for it, but I already know I'll be paying around 15€ more for customs processing fee by the post office (after already paying one to the guys who shipped the thing for LTT, as part of the shipping cost on their end - seriously, how tf is this still legal?), and god knows how much more in taxes I'll actually pay once it's ready for pick up.
Yes, I still don't have it.
Worst part is, it quite literally might've been cheaper to make three separate orders and pay shipping three times... (GG Europe)
the netherlands (postnl) is super annoying with this. everything from aliexpress goes through fine with "customs", yet everything else i order anywhere else always goes "wrong" and they stick on the retarded handling fees... coincidence that postnl as a fixed agreement with aliexpress for the shipping
Great video! Might be an overkill backpack for me and the price tag is hefty. Leaving a like, gotta support that local business!
Nice overview! Considering the price, I'm sticking with my XD Design for now.
First video I’ve seen to actually compare it to the 5.11 backpack. I always assumed it was a lot smaller than my 5.11. Good to know that comparison now. Thanks!
I've also bought it with the assumption that it's going to be smaller. 5.11 gets a lot puffier if you stuff it and it can fit almost twice as much as LTT though.
I live in Germany and ordered a screwdriver and some other things. The package arrived two days ago without any additional costs. Guess I was lucky that the customs handling worked as intended. btw: 30 EUR for customs handling, that's insane. The German Post takes 6 EUR.
Well, it's 30 EUR for the first 4 items, if there are more it's additional 6 EUR per item. When I previously bought LTT deskpads everything went through smoothly without additional costs or fees. As far as understand LTT declares everything correctly for EU imports, it's just that sometimes the system doesn't understand the tariff codes.
@@ryt-is it would be a big ask for costums to know the terifs they should use /s
On the side with the straps, left-bottom-cornor there is a RFID pocket. Also on the inside where you can store a water bottle, whereby there where the water bottle compartment is, there is the 'hidden' AirTag Pocket. ;)
Huh, crazy, it's like shipping large things around the world costs a lot of money.
I've ordered many a thing from the EU/UK who's shipping costs more than the value of the item. It is what it is. Now the double tax thing or import fees, that really sucks.
Nice video was thinking about this, as I think quality would be pretty good from LTT. However, looking at your video does look a bit too big and I also don’t think it’s worth the import duties into Europe. Still might of considered it if they had a European store or had had it sold through Amazon in Europe I.e they could of just sent directly from china to Amazon warehouse and fulfilled by them.
I’m glad the video helped you with the decision. It’s a bulky backpack, but it doesn’t fit much inside due to padding. Just like anything, there’s a right tool for the job. LTT backpack is still my go to choice for carrying electronics and related equipment safely. If I need to bring 4 sixpacks from the store, or go camping - it’s 5.11 backpack all the way. And they’re both the same size from outside.
What camera and lens are you using?? Still love those lights!!
You’ll be surprised, but this video was shot on iPhone 12 Pro. Video quality is not too good compared to a proper camera when viewing locally, but after CZcams compression camera barely makes a difference (given the same focal length, environment, etc). My newest video at the moment is shot on Lumix S5 with kit lens if you want to compare. Or I could make a comparison video if you’d be interested
Germany its 250+50€ shipping
They should ship directly from china to some warehouse in the EU.
Linus talked on WAN show about it and that it would be extremely difficult given their small size
Glad to know I wasn’t the only one being bent over with customs fees. Paid £66.89 to import mine… 🤬
I've read that they might return the fees if you contact their support with the documents. I'd say it's worth a try, hopefully you'll get your fees back.
Yes do check out that link - the issue is that people in UK are being charged VAT twice, but LTT will reimburse this for you. But they will not reimburse import duties and fees, which is a separate fee.
I want one... I trust LTT, but that price tag :|
500€ of scam!
Holy shit! Planavau pats pirkti bet nesitikejau kad siuntimo kainos bus tokios milziniskos. Damn :(
Čia su muitine kažkas nepaėjo. LTT viską tvarkingai apiformina, tik pas mus pasipinigaut nori. Man LTT grąžino 63 eurus mokesčių kuriuos pas juos mokėjau. Po to rašiau prašymą muitinei, kad perskaičiuotu, bet atmetė.
Thanks for the video. For the next time, please, keep the music lower. Especially on mu phone, your voice is getting crushed.
Thanks. Yes, will definitely keep the music lower next time.
i mean taxes arent ltt's fault... i gues if you know some one coming over from canada it would be worth asking them to bring the backpack over for you lol. but 500 is a lot.
LTT just needs an EU warehouse to make their products worth buying outside of North America.
@@_GhostMiner I imagine that also comes with a new set of issues and challenges that they aren’t equipped to deal with yet
@@maxsinclair787 mayhaps.
just buy chinese copy and you pay 20$
I don't see any way to justify purchasing this backpack, even if they refund your double taxation. That they designed this purely for NA air regulations make it practically useless for the EU, because who would want to bring this big a pack on short trips or during commuting?
The biggest selling point for me is the easy access to the tech compartment. Taking laptop and iPad out for airport security is a breeze.
Carry on limits differ from US or North America and EU, or the rest of the world.
This backpack is made for and in line with the requirements for NA users, not European ones. The fact that you did not mention this, is a bit idiotic.
I like your production level, if you tone down the levels on those annoying music tracks, honestly, it makes your channel sound cheap and it's 101 in terms of what you should avoid on CZcams, you can garner some audience.
For 120 Euros you could have bought a nice Manfrotto or Targus, granted, smaller, but probably better quality and for sure better return policy and warranty.
Thank you for the comment. The carry on limits depend on the airline and I think I’ve mentioned that, and since Europe and NA have different airlines, that means that Europe and NA will automatically have different limits, but I guess I could’ve been more explicit. Of course LTT being a Canadian brand will mostly cater to the NA market / standards, and that is totally fine. In the end it’s not about buying the most cost efficient backpack (because there are many with better ROI), but more about supporting a brand that I love. It just sucks that the government also wants their cut. And yes, from the comments I can see that I will need to tone down the music; on my speakers the mastering level seemed fine, but I guess I should also check how it sounds on many different speakers.
Expensive? LV, Hermes, Balenciaga... Just laughed 😂😂😂 but I don't like the design so I wouldn't buy it also😔
Luxury brands are a scam anyways 🙂 At least this backpack is built like a tank, thoughtfully laid out, and supports a fellow creator