I was 10 years old in 1984 and loved watching Siskel & Ebert. Then I would watch The Benny Hill Show. Great times. R.I.P. To my favorite movie critics.
I was in college back in 1984. I remember after coming home for a very well deserved Christmas break, the first thing I did to unwind was to go to the theater. I decided to watch Starman even tho I knew very little about it (the intensity of my studies that year cut me off from most of the happenings of the world, including the reviews of this movie). I can.t tell you just how much of a pleasant surprise it was watching this film. Exactly what I needed to start off my Holiday Season at the time.
These guys apparently failed to notice this, or didn't think to comment on it, but it so happens we COINCIDENTALLY have TWO movies staring ROCKSTARS (Sting and Gene Simmons) in THIS one episode.
@Ian Findly: They both also gave them both Thumbs Down, but I liked them both better than they did, especially in the case of David Lynch's _Dune_ , while _Runaway_ is a great couple of hours munching popcorn at the movies. I have them both in my movie collection hehehehe Thumbs Up for them hehehehehe
@@jakesli9154 I duno what type of music he's been making RECENTLY, but he started out in a punk-type group (The Police "Roxane") then became a big Pop musician ("Every breath you take") in the mid 80's.
i was about 12 when Starman came out, and i have always loved this film. ive always wondered why it seems to be a mostly forgotten film and it warms my heart to see all the other comments about how good it is, all these years i thought i was its only fan.
I was 13 when this show came on. My parents and I had been wondering whether to see Dune or Starman. After seeing Siskel and Ebert's reviews, we decided on Starman. At the end, we walked out of the theater rubber-legged, amazed by what we'd seen. One of the best movies of the 80's.
lord I was just thinking I wished I had seen this before going to Dune on the first night it played in Boston - the audience filled with Dune fans was laughing out loud and booing by the end
Watching Dune as a viewer all of 11 yrs old, I was bored and hated it when originally released...viewing it a number of times since, it has improved quite a bit in my eyes and is one of my favorite cult and guilty Lynchian pleasures
It is so sad whenever I see the old episodes of Siskel and Ebert. These guys were such powerful institutions of the film industry when I was growing up and it was so weird when I first heard the news of Gene Siskel's death.
I'm SO glad they gave Starman a thumbs-up; that is one of my all time favorite movies! If you have never seen it, watch it NOW ...Jeff Bridges should have won an Oscar for that performance!! -He was robbed!
Ebert was right about Jeff Bridges in Starman - he apparently decided that since his character wasn't used to a human body, he'd move in a jerky fashion... and he studied birds to see how they moved around.
There's something they didn't mention about Star Man, that was especially poignant and sad. The alien that comes to earth wasn't originally human; he was an energy form of some kind; he created a human body for himself, out of the DNA from the woman's dead husband, from a strand of hair from an old brush he owned. Imagine being a widow and missing your partner terribly after grieving over them; and suddenly there they are, in front of you; the same face, the same body, the same voice; but a completely different mind. Imagine what that would do to you. That part of the movie was poignant and sad at the same time. Emotionally she got her husband back in a way; but yet she knows she didn't. To me, She was the most sympathetic individual in the film going through that, not the alien.
I'm certain that just about everyone who has seen this film found Jenny Hayden sympathetic firstly rather than the gun wielding, body double creep from outer space who kidnaps her. The film was designed that way. We warm to the starman just as Jenny does along the way.
Starman was John Carpenter's apology for The Thing. He was very bummed out about the critical response to the Thing and Starman came along and he jumped on it. He was something like the third or fourth director attached to the film. He did a great job. Awesome film!
No actually STARMAN was one of the best reviewed films of 84, unless you mean by horror fans. But the film even garnered respect by them because my gorehound friend at the time got caught up in the story.
@@bobrew461 I know but it is such an unsung movie now. The way it's internet popular for people to reference his "80's" soundtrack sound or the movies they mention like Halloween, The Thing and Big Trouble, just seems he never gets credit today for this movie.
Starman is one of those films I grew up with. Easily a personal favorite of mine. Dune, while a complete mess, is a film I feel the same way about. Nostalgia can be weird sometimes.
@ Ian Finlay: _Coincidently, we have TWO movies staring ROCK STARS ( Sting and Gene Simmons ) here in this one episode!_ You'll say that again in four years hehehehehehehe
Star man really was quite a beautiful film. I remember the tv series as well. This was a time when they tried to make tv shows after movies dirty dancing and ferris bueller m.a.s. h happy days was a spin off american graffitti indiana jones young guns. Jeff bridges was such an underrated actor until much later for crazy heart . He was in movie after movie with great performances. I love ehen siskel and ebert get excited about a movie
@@booknooky9436 😂 ... I actually love both of those movies. Starman is one of Carpenter's better movies ... up there with Big Trouble in Little China and maybe Christine.
@@kevinmcdonald4040 Big Trouble in Little China was a great romp ... It's a total classic while also being his best movie. There was nothing 'messy' about it ... good solid story telling, fun characters, good action and it's completely original. There'd be a lot of people who agree with me on that ... but what ever floats your boat.
I read Dune when it came out in 1966. When I saw the movie, I enjoyed it immensely. Kinda weird, but I was okay with that. I also knew that anyone who hadn't read the book would be, WTF? Siskel and Ebert were proved wrong in the long run. The film is now a classic.
I've seen Starman a couple of times, usually when it was already playing on Cinemax or something, anyway no matter how many times I've seen it, the music & the ending (together) will just pull the tears right out of me.
Siskel so often completely dismissed films like he did here with Dune. Even though Ebert didn't love it, he at least acknowledges the books, talks about what works and what didn't, and admits that he was entertained by some of it.
Ebert at least tried to usually find the strengths in a movie, even if he thought it wasn't the best. Siskel often just dismissed things whole cloth because one or two things turned him off, lol. I agree with you.
Yep. And his criticisms were more based on his personal taste. Eg If a movie was too gory and violent, or had children in peril, he gave a bad review. That has nothing to do with the craft of filmaking.
Don't know why they gave thumbs down for Runaway. It thought it was awesome and entertaining. Gene Simmons as Dr. Charles Luthor was intimidating and scary as hell. Thought Selleck and Rhodes has great chemistry as well as Selleck and Simmons have a great chemistry in rivalry. To me it's a great popcorn enjoyment film. Can't wait to get it on blu-ray.
I find it funny that they show a seemingly random scene from Dune that is actually the films climactic duel. Honestly, they weren’t wrong but time and retrospection has served the film well.
I remember I was watching Runaways on TV when I was like five years old and my mom came in and yelled "we're not watching this crap" and turned off the TV and like 30 minutes later I snuck into the TV room and the movie was now Boomerang with Eddie Murphy and I was confused because I thought it was the same movie and didn't understand why everybody now was black.
As someone who read the Dune books years before this movie came out I appreciated what Lynch tried to do even if he was only partially successful. It remains one of the hardest sci fi books to adapt and even the new version feels like it has less life than the Lynch version (but DID have a much more book accurate Baron Harkonnen) Starman was just too cheesy for my liking. I was reading a lot of sci fi back then and the story felt super lightweight compared to what was possible even back at that time
Starman was such a beautiful movie. Bridges deserved the oscar he was nominated for & really carpenters best & a complete turn from his others like Halloween & the thing . Not a gory horror film. The thing is another movie that became a classic same as blade runner is a hugely popular film today but I believe it was a bomb when it came out .
@@fyodordostoevsky9028 I'd recommend you find a more intelligent critique. The movie sucks and doesn't surpass the book by a longshot. In fact it doesn't surpass a See Dick and Jane book!
@@INFILTR8US Runaway ,Lassiter and An Innocent Man are Tom Selleck best movies. Runaway is a very fun imaginative sci-fi movie Gene Simmons is great as the villain.
Wonder what S&E would've thought with how simple Gene Simmons tech was compare to a Patriot Missle or the Drones that would rule the military world of the future. The heat seeking, DNA coded bullets are a cool idea, and they seem to be more of a drone than missiles.
Wow. Reviews for Dune, Starman, and Runaway, all in one episode. All sci-fi classics! 1984, baby!! Classics of any genre don’t come out like this everyfew YEARS now! This was just ONE WEEK!!
that knife fight in _Dune_ makes it look nearly unwatchable. good sound, though. David Lynch [a thoroughly BAFFLING choice to helm your studio's Big Flagpole Space Adventure] knows how to do that industrial drone thing, that's for sure.
I agree with Ebert's take on Dune, that it's an interesting bad movie. Thankfully it didn't destroy Lynch's career. Just two years later he bounced back with Blue Velvet using many of the same actors!
Well fortunately for Selleck, he would hit BIG with Three Men and a Baby with Steve Guttenberg of the Police Academy Movies and Ted Danson of TV's Cheers, Cynthia Rhodes who starred in the SMASH Film Flashdance scored BIG once again with Dirty Dancing and Kirstie Alley should've stayed with the Star Trek Movies as Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, The Terminator & Ghostbusters did better than the 3 films mentioned on here, but Alley would make up for it starring in the film Look Who's Talking? and she joined the cast of Cheers replacing Shelley Long and the ratings stayed intact which was still in the Nielsen Ratings Top 10 until 1993 with Season 9 becoming #1
The only question I have her is why would you bother going to see a film adaption of a book that you didn't like? The film on its own merit is a wonderfully strange and epic bit of fluff, I cannot speak from the books because I never read them but the movie on its own merit is an exceptionally well made an interesting oddity... Most people just didn't seem to get it.
I loved starman a fun movie. Runaway is good it's now out dated Tom Selleck made it entertaining. Dune is being remade in 2020 well see if it's any good.
At the movies intro was so second rate compared to the intro scene of sneak previews,which is arguably iconic. Is did not impact the substance of coarse but it is interesting that PBS had the better opening
I haven’t seen dune in years. All I remember is I hated it. I liked the tv miniseries from the early 2000’s. Starman is a classic. Different for master John Carpenter but still a classic. Never heard of the Jack Lemmon film. Runaway… was a cheesy film that I liked as a kid but probably wouldn’t like now, probably but who knows.
@@bobrew461 Hollywood makes this impression of him but he's not. His Canadian films are impecable, and unlike Lynch who has Dune as a low point in his resume, Villenueve hasn't made a bad movie.
Siskel really trashes Dune here, and rightly so. I think he should have blamed Dino DeLaurentis, though; he's the primary culprit here along with Lynch who clearly is just doing the film to have the experience of directing a big budget film whose story he could care less about. It's a tragedy we'll never get to see Jodorowsky's version which was completely story boarded, but never got the budget together.
Use any adjectives you like; the bottom line is the film doesn't work like the novel does. Personally, I think they should have done it in three parts like the Lord of the Rings trilogy. There is too much information in the novel about a completely different world and galactic political structure to convey in a two hour movie for the story to unfold gracefully (which is why with Lynch's version, they ended up resorting to noncinematic story telling methods like voice over narration).
Greg Holt I think it should be a Netflix or HBO Tcable series than a movie as it doesn't translate as a movie as i hated both the Lynch film and the 2003 mini-series.
Didn't even realize they tried to do Dune as a mini series. HBO would never touch it; it's jinxed. No, we are never going to see another film adaptation of Dune, and that's probably a good thing.
I don't think the whole story of the production of 'Dune' was well known at the time. And the film (as far as I remember) was marketed as 'David Lynch's', so initially it would have seemed as if he just made a mess of it. It was a crazy idea to cover the novel in one film though and Lynch should have known better than to get involved.
2:10 It always makes me sad when I see people saying something is "hard to understand and confusing." So many people out themselves as being far less intelligent than they believe themselves to be by way of insulting movies.
@@joefelice5062 It has its flaws, but it's perfectly understandable. When you have people saying they can't follow a film so simple, how can you claim they aren't just pompous fools with inflated egos? I won't hesitate to call it as I see it when people are so boldly stating their opinions as facts and judging others. Dune isn't perfect, no movie is, but it's a wonderfully imaginative and creative world. If they can't understand the film, I think that says more about them than the movie.
Nobody From Nowhere One comment does not define an individual. If you watch a hundred or more of their reviews and maybe read some of their writing, you would find they are very insightful, articulate, and intelligent. There are plenty of films that are far more complex than Dune that have received positive reviews from S & E. And surely you know that the creators of Dune probably had their own criticism of what the studio execs did to the distributed release of the film. Respectfully it is pretty myopic and small-minded to make a sweeping claim of a person’s intelligence because he or she said that a film you like is “confusing”. I hope for your sake that you don’t ever find yourself wholly judged by one uttered statement out of a million.
Christopjer Foote Im still fascinated by those who do. The only thing great for me is the score. Everything else is such a bore. Sting horribly overacts especially in that fight scene. The longer version is even worse.
Sting's scenes were the among the best thing in the movie ... he plays the cocky adonis with the over the top swagger very much like how Rutger Hauer played Roy Batty, its the kind of great cocky villain we hardly see anymore nowadays because of how people like you (Ruben) thinks such characters should not exist because they are "overacting" ... but for people like me I appreciate a good serving of such characters which is going extinct in movies ..
88feji uh Rutger Hauer performance as Batty the replicant is 10 times better. He kept Batty menacing but calm. It was terrifying when he did resort to violence such as the eye gouging. Sting however was just embarrasingly loud. "I will kill him!" just makes me cringe ugh terrible performance from a dud of a movie.
Though I wouldn't go as far as calling it "great", I do like the film overall, especially the set design, costumes, atmosphere and Lynch's style and surreal moments...I don't expect Oscar caliber acting in any sci-fi film so the slightly hammy performances don't detract from my enjoyment of it...NOW!!
the difference between siskel and ebert: ebert kind of guess there is something strange going on with dune, siskell gave up in 5 minutes... the difference between an average and a good critic
Siskel had stated on many occasions before that he didn't like SF. Also, the studio brass stuck their nose and ruined this movie. Had the director been allowed to do his job, it would've been a different reaction of the critics.
Dune needs a 21st century reboot with James Cameron or Ridley Scott at the chair. It could be so good. You'd think Hollywood would've thought about that instead of doing the 48th Spiderman of 52nd Batman movie. I'm so goddam sick of comic book movies that I could puke. Hey, btw, Hollywood.....we're still hanging on Danny Glover's last line in Predator 2. It set up a sequel better than any other movie line I can think of.
I used to respect Siskel and Ebert until this minute. Dune was a great movie, one of the greatest sci-fi movies of all time. These two blockheads want the story fed to them like pablum on a baby spoon. if they didn't get it tough luck for them.
I was 10 years old in 1984 and loved watching Siskel & Ebert. Then I would watch The Benny Hill Show. Great times. R.I.P. To my favorite movie critics.
I was in college back in 1984. I remember after coming home for a very well deserved Christmas break, the first thing I did to unwind was to go to the theater. I decided to watch Starman even tho I knew very little about it (the intensity of my studies that year cut me off from most of the happenings of the world, including the reviews of this movie).
I can.t tell you just how much of a pleasant surprise it was watching this film. Exactly what I needed to start off my Holiday Season at the time.
These guys apparently failed to notice this, or didn't think to comment on it, but it so happens we COINCIDENTALLY have TWO movies staring ROCKSTARS (Sting and Gene Simmons) in THIS one episode.
You said that four years ago, lol.
@Ian Findly:
They both also gave them both Thumbs Down, but I liked them both better than they did, especially in the case of David Lynch's _Dune_ , while _Runaway_ is a great couple of hours munching popcorn at the movies. I have them both in my movie collection hehehehe Thumbs Up for them hehehehehe
@@jakesli9154 I duno what type of music he's been making RECENTLY, but he started out in a punk-type group (The Police "Roxane") then became a big Pop musician ("Every breath you take") in the mid 80's.
You're forgetting. This is from 1984, several years before Sting or Simmons got the big time in the music business
@@MarvinMonroe both Simmons and Sting were huge before 1984
Always loved the score from Starman.
as much as i absolutely love the film, i love the score just as much.
star man...one of the best movies ever
i was about 12 when Starman came out, and i have always loved this film. ive always wondered why it seems to be a mostly forgotten film and it warms my heart to see all the other comments about how good it is, all these years i thought i was its only fan.
I was 13 when this show came on. My parents and I had been wondering whether to see Dune or Starman. After seeing Siskel and Ebert's reviews, we decided on Starman. At the end, we walked out of the theater rubber-legged, amazed by what we'd seen. One of the best movies of the 80's.
lord I was just thinking I wished I had seen this before going to Dune on the first night it played in Boston - the audience filled with Dune fans was laughing out loud and booing by the end
Watching Dune as a viewer all of 11 yrs old, I was bored and hated it when originally released...viewing it a number of times since, it has improved quite a bit in my eyes and is one of my favorite cult and guilty Lynchian pleasures
It is so sad whenever I see the old episodes of Siskel and Ebert. These guys were such powerful institutions of the film industry when I was growing up and it was so weird when I first heard the news of Gene Siskel's death.
I'd happily let Virginia Madsen explain anything to me that David Lynch asked her to explain.
I paid $ for it and no
God I loved Runaway as a kid.I would love a remake.What a week for movies Starman,Dune and Runaway .
Good news their a new dune movie gonna be faithful to the book
@@Dim4323 Too bad it sucked. Give me Lynch's car wreck any day before that sterile safe movie.
@@Dim4323 The new Dune is awful. Zendaya? Really? She cannot act at all.
I'm SO glad they gave Starman a thumbs-up; that is one of my all time favorite movies! If you have never seen it, watch it NOW ...Jeff Bridges should have won an Oscar for that performance!! -He was robbed!
The review of Dune is very funny.
The penis references were hilarious!!
Starman is probably the best film on this. In fact, it is.
Ebert was right about Jeff Bridges in Starman - he apparently decided that since his character wasn't used to a human body, he'd move in a jerky fashion... and he studied birds to see how they moved around.
Two awesome Sci-Fi films and then Dune... Starman is one of the most beautiful movies I have ever seen.
There's something they didn't mention about Star Man, that was especially poignant and sad. The alien that comes to earth wasn't originally human; he was an energy form of some kind; he created a human body for himself, out of the DNA from the woman's dead husband, from a strand of hair from an old brush he owned. Imagine being a widow and missing your partner terribly after grieving over them; and suddenly there they are, in front of you; the same face, the same body, the same voice; but a completely different mind. Imagine what that would do to you. That part of the movie was poignant and sad at the same time. Emotionally she got her husband back in a way; but yet she knows she didn't. To me, She was the most sympathetic individual in the film going through that, not the alien.
Excellent points. I strongly agree.
Husband, not partner.
@@DeltaAssaultGaming , I used the word "partner" to imply it could be a husband or a wife who died.
I'm certain that just about everyone who has seen this film found Jenny Hayden sympathetic firstly rather than the gun wielding, body double creep from outer space who kidnaps her. The film was designed that way. We warm to the starman just as Jenny does along the way.
Starman was John Carpenter's apology for The Thing.
He was very bummed out about the critical response to the Thing and Starman came along and he jumped on it.
He was something like the third or fourth director attached to the film.
He did a great job. Awesome film!
The Thing requires no apology..
There's no way in hell Carpenter apologized for The Thing. He simply needed a commerical success after The Thing underperformed.
@@ricardocantoral7672 Starman was not a blockbuster either.
What are you talking about The Thing is amazing
Jeff Bridges acted his @$$ off!!!
Yet another slept on John Carpenter movie that now people love.
3rd Gunman i know the thing was also john carpenter . Big trouble in little china too
No actually STARMAN was one of the best reviewed films of 84, unless you mean by horror fans. But the film even garnered respect by them because my gorehound friend at the time got caught up in the story.
Starman was a box office hit, and proved to critics that Carpenter was not just a "Master of Horror!".
@@bobrew461 I know but it is such an unsung movie now. The way it's internet popular for people to reference his "80's" soundtrack sound or the movies they mention like Halloween, The Thing and Big Trouble, just seems he never gets credit today for this movie.
@@The3rdGunman He's played his music all around the world! His concerts always sell out. I mean, how much more credit can the guy get?
Siskel and Ebert, Lifestyles of the rich and famous were Sunday shows i miss sentimentally watching.
Starman is one of those films I grew up with. Easily a personal favorite of mine. Dune, while a complete mess, is a film I feel the same way about. Nostalgia can be weird sometimes.
I love dune. I love the book and I love the movie. I really don't mind that most people seem to think it's shit because it makes me so happy.
Starman was awesome!
I prefer Dune more than all the today's sci fi movies
And I am totally agree with Roger!
Coincidently, we have TWO movies staring ROCK STARS ( Sting and Gene Simmons ) here in this one episode!
I think the 80s was a unique decade for all this crazy celebrity casting.
@@brettwyatt7165 Disagree. You can find examples in most decades, and not meaning stuff like Elvis movies, musicals, or celebrity vehicles.
@@brettwyatt7165 another great one is Lee Ving in Clue. Was so surprised not only him being it but also the character he played as well
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Ian Finlay: _Coincidently, we have TWO movies staring ROCK STARS ( Sting and Gene Simmons ) here in this one episode!_
You'll say that again in four years hehehehehehehe
Right. And hard as it is to believe Runaway was better. Not much of a complement though. It is like comparing a pile of shit to five piles.
I miss Jack Lemmon SO MUCH!
Star man really was quite a beautiful film. I remember the tv series as well. This was a time when they tried to make tv shows after movies dirty dancing and ferris bueller m.a.s. h happy days was a spin off american graffitti indiana jones young guns.
Jeff bridges was such an underrated actor until much later for crazy heart . He was in movie after movie with great performances. I love ehen siskel and ebert get excited about a movie
Love that 'yellow light go very fast'
Just beautiful
Kate Capshaw got Temple of Doom, Karen Allen got Starman. Karen Allen won. It is a great movie, sort of an E.T. for grown-ups.
Oh yeah Temple of Doom faded into a memory, Starman is beloved by all mankind
Kate Capshaw got Spielberg. And still has him.
@@booknooky9436 😂 ... I actually love both of those movies. Starman is one of Carpenter's better movies ... up there with Big Trouble in Little China and maybe Christine.
@@Fiveash-Art Starman is way better than those two. Christine was OK. Big Trouble in Little China was a complete idiotic mess.
@@kevinmcdonald4040 Big Trouble in Little China was a great romp ... It's a total classic while also being his best movie. There was nothing 'messy' about it ... good solid story telling, fun characters, good action and it's completely original. There'd be a lot of people who agree with me on that ... but what ever floats your boat.
I read Dune when it came out in 1966. When I saw the movie, I enjoyed it immensely. Kinda weird, but I was okay with that. I also knew that anyone who hadn't read the book would be, WTF? Siskel and Ebert were proved wrong in the long run. The film is now a classic.
They were the best- So much fun to watch!
6:15 Click here to skip directly to the STARMAN review.
I've seen Starman a couple of times, usually when it was already playing on Cinemax or something, anyway
no matter how many times I've seen it, the music & the ending (together) will just pull the tears right out of me.
Sting's winged underpants.
Can't unsee that shit!!!
Jeff Bridges deserved his Oscar nomination
He deserved to win...
2:57. Patrick Stewart doesn't age.
Yes he's great
Reading GOD EMPEROR OF DUNE NOW!
The worst one..... But Heretics and Chapterhouse are the best two, so power through!
Siskel so often completely dismissed films like he did here with Dune. Even though Ebert didn't love it, he at least acknowledges the books, talks about what works and what didn't, and admits that he was entertained by some of it.
Perhaps. It's still a crap film.
Ebert at least tried to usually find the strengths in a movie, even if he thought it wasn't the best. Siskel often just dismissed things whole cloth because one or two things turned him off, lol. I agree with you.
i disagree with a lot of Ebert what he said about film, but he brings a lot of nuance to the discussions, im the same way being a gemini too lol
It was a gimmick for the TV show. People liked it when they disagreed and argued with each other.
Yep. And his criticisms were more based on his personal taste. Eg If a movie was too gory and violent, or had children in peril, he gave a bad review. That has nothing to do with the craft of filmaking.
I do like Runaway more than they did
Don't know why they gave thumbs down for Runaway. It thought it was awesome and entertaining. Gene Simmons as Dr. Charles Luthor was intimidating and scary as hell. Thought Selleck and Rhodes has great chemistry as well as Selleck and Simmons have a great chemistry in rivalry. To me it's a great popcorn enjoyment film. Can't wait to get it on blu-ray.
I find it funny that they show a seemingly random scene from Dune that is actually the films climactic duel. Honestly, they weren’t wrong but time and retrospection has served the film well.
RIP to Kirstie Alley from Runaway.
Loved Starman.
I saw Runaway in the theater...I enjoyed it.
I remember I was watching Runaways on TV when I was like five years old and my mom came in and yelled "we're not watching this crap" and turned off the TV and like 30 minutes later I snuck into the TV room and the movie was now Boomerang with Eddie Murphy and I was confused because I thought it was the same movie and didn't understand why everybody now was black.
technology.... actually that sounds like a great idea for a movie
I'm guessing neither a TV Guide or an onscreen guide was available.
As someone who read the Dune books years before this movie came out I appreciated what Lynch tried to do even if he was only partially successful. It remains one of the hardest sci fi books to adapt and even the new version feels like it has less life than the Lynch version (but DID have a much more book accurate Baron Harkonnen)
Starman was just too cheesy for my liking. I was reading a lot of sci fi back then and the story felt super lightweight compared to what was possible even back at that time
Starman was such a beautiful movie. Bridges deserved the oscar he was nominated for & really carpenters best & a complete turn from his others like Halloween & the thing . Not a gory horror film. The thing is another movie that became a classic same as blade runner is a hugely popular film today but I believe it was a bomb when it came out .
They missed it on Runaway. It's a good movie. Not great but definitely worth seeing 80s movie.
Dune is brilliant, it surpasses the novel
If you really think that, I'd recommend giving the book another read.
@@fyodordostoevsky9028 I'd recommend you find a more intelligent critique. The movie sucks and doesn't surpass the book by a longshot. In fact it doesn't surpass a See Dick and Jane book!
Runaway should be re-made.
runaway owns
Yeah all of Micheal krighton films should be remade
Nope.
Runaway is a bad remake of Blade Runner.
@@INFILTR8US Runaway ,Lassiter and An Innocent Man are Tom Selleck best movies. Runaway is a very fun imaginative sci-fi movie Gene Simmons is great as the villain.
RUNAWAY was great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Starman is a masterpiece. Better than Dutch apple pie.
I really liked Starman.
..Runaway is still 80's fun lol.. Gene is funny
I couldn't believe that was *the* Gene Simmons! 😛
Kirstie Alley, as the partner of Gene Simmons, guessed wrong on her "insurance policy".
Dune 2021: hold my spice
Wonder what S&E would've thought with how simple Gene Simmons tech was compare to a Patriot Missle or the Drones that would rule the military world of the future. The heat seeking, DNA coded bullets are a cool idea, and they seem to be more of a drone than missiles.
Lynch wasn't made for mainstream hollywood movie making. It just wasn't his thing. He was too much of a creative genius for It
Should've let Ridley Scott take it.
MASS Appeal is underrated movie. Jack Lemmon last three major films : Tribute, Missing and Mass Appeal underrated great movies.
Wow. Reviews for Dune, Starman, and Runaway, all in one episode. All sci-fi classics! 1984, baby!! Classics of any genre don’t come out like this everyfew YEARS now! This was just ONE WEEK!!
Runaway is still a really fun movie
Starman is a bit sad but a really great movie.
Dune wasnt the best movie ever , now the reboot look better
that knife fight in _Dune_ makes it look nearly unwatchable.
good sound, though. David Lynch [a thoroughly BAFFLING choice to helm your studio's Big Flagpole Space Adventure] knows how to do that industrial drone thing, that's for sure.
Siskel was right about Zeljko Ivanek.
He was. Ivanek is a terrific actor.
The penis joke from Gene about the worm from Dune is absolutely hilarious. 😂😂😂😂
I agree with Ebert's take on Dune, that it's an interesting bad movie. Thankfully it didn't destroy Lynch's career. Just two years later he bounced back with Blue Velvet using many of the same actors!
My Roomba went nuts so I blasted it with my phaser.
Well fortunately for Selleck, he would hit BIG with Three Men and a Baby with Steve Guttenberg of the Police Academy Movies and Ted Danson of TV's Cheers, Cynthia Rhodes who starred in the SMASH Film Flashdance scored BIG once again with Dirty Dancing and Kirstie Alley should've stayed with the Star Trek Movies as Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, The Terminator & Ghostbusters did better than the 3 films mentioned on here, but Alley would make up for it starring in the film Look Who's Talking? and she joined the cast of Cheers replacing Shelley Long and the ratings stayed intact which was still in the Nielsen Ratings Top 10 until 1993 with Season 9 becoming #1
All in all I really liked this movie, however it is one of those rare movies where it goes down hill when the plot kicks in.
Uh, which movie?
Dune was one of four movies I ever walked out on. Even worse than the book, which I also walked out on after 100 pages.
The only question I have her is why would you bother going to see a film adaption of a book that you didn't like? The film on its own merit is a wonderfully strange and epic bit of fluff, I cannot speak from the books because I never read them but the movie on its own merit is an exceptionally well made an interesting oddity...
Most people just didn't seem to get it.
I had almost exactly the same experience. The movie is crap, the book derivative of much better books.
@@KarstensCreationsKC Forced into it by relatives who hadn't read the book.
It's too bad they didn't live to see the 2021 version of _Dune;_ I have a feeling it would be much more up Roger's alley.
I wonder if Gene and Roger would've Thumb-ed up Denis Villeneuve's version of Dune.
Yes, I'm curious to know what they would have thought. My own reaction was mixed but it thankfully wasn't as campy as the 1984 version.
What were they thinking when they hired David Lynch to direct _Dune?_
good question.....
I loved starman a fun movie. Runaway is good it's now out dated Tom Selleck made it entertaining. Dune is being remade in 2020 well see if it's any good.
Hate Dune, but I like RUNAWAY. Love STARMAN....the movie not Bridges
I don't care I love Dune lol.
dune is incredible. Starman in hindsight seems like the prequel to Guardians of the Galaxy 2
At the movies intro was so second rate compared to the intro scene of sneak previews,which is arguably iconic. Is did not impact the substance of coarse but it is interesting that PBS had the better opening
Dune C for me
11:00 I wish this were still true about Jeff Bridges
I haven’t seen dune in years. All I remember is I hated it. I liked the tv miniseries from the early 2000’s.
Starman is a classic. Different for master John Carpenter but still a classic.
Never heard of the Jack Lemmon film.
Runaway… was a cheesy film that I liked as a kid but probably wouldn’t like now, probably but who knows.
Would have been better if the aspect ratio wasn't skewed. Still nice to watch.
2018, I feel offended as a Fremen.
Starman: B+
Wow!! Siskel & Ebert hated Dune, lol !!!
It's not a good film. They are right. It's a clunky cinematic disaster.
A LOT of people Hated Dune
Dune is a mess, worst Lynch film ever. I hope Villeneuve's remake to get better than this.
@@SuperRod88 Villeneuve is over-rated...
@@bobrew461 Hollywood makes this impression of him but he's not. His Canadian films are impecable, and unlike Lynch who has Dune as a low point in his resume, Villenueve hasn't made a bad movie.
I Think Dune is actually a great movie.
why doesn't she drive?
Notice Kirstie Alley is in the clip for Runaway as one of the hostages?
they were both wrong about runaway.. awesome flick
Siskel really trashes Dune here, and rightly so. I think he should have blamed Dino DeLaurentis, though; he's the primary culprit here along with Lynch who clearly is just doing the film to have the experience of directing a big budget film whose story he could care less about.
It's a tragedy we'll never get to see Jodorowsky's version which was completely story boarded, but never got the budget together.
Agree and do you agree that Dune is just a joyless and overlong mess?
Use any adjectives you like; the bottom line is the film doesn't work like the novel does.
Personally, I think they should have done it in three parts like the Lord of the Rings trilogy. There is too much information in the novel about a completely different world and galactic political structure to convey in a two hour movie for the story to unfold gracefully (which is why with Lynch's version, they ended up resorting to noncinematic story telling methods like voice over narration).
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I think it should be a Netflix or HBO Tcable series than a movie as it doesn't translate as a movie as i hated both the Lynch film and the 2003 mini-series.
Didn't even realize they tried to do Dune as a mini series. HBO would never touch it; it's jinxed. No, we are never going to see another film adaptation of Dune, and that's probably a good thing.
I don't think the whole story of the production of 'Dune' was well known at the time. And the film (as far as I remember) was marketed as 'David Lynch's', so initially it would have seemed as if he just made a mess of it. It was a crazy idea to cover the novel in one film though and Lynch should have known better than to get involved.
Who watches Starman now? The 1984 Dune has become a cult classic
2:10 It always makes me sad when I see people saying something is "hard to understand and confusing."
So many people out themselves as being far less intelligent than they believe themselves to be by way of insulting movies.
These guys are not unintelligent, far from it. Dune was and is a poorly executed, meandering mess of a film.
@@joefelice5062 It has its flaws, but it's perfectly understandable. When you have people saying they can't follow a film so simple, how can you claim they aren't just pompous fools with inflated egos? I won't hesitate to call it as I see it when people are so boldly stating their opinions as facts and judging others. Dune isn't perfect, no movie is, but it's a wonderfully imaginative and creative world. If they can't understand the film, I think that says more about them than the movie.
Nobody From Nowhere One comment does not define an individual. If you watch a hundred or more of their reviews and maybe read some of their writing, you would find they are very insightful, articulate, and intelligent. There are plenty of films that are far more complex than Dune that have received positive reviews from S & E. And surely you know that the creators of Dune probably had their own criticism of what the studio execs did to the distributed release of the film. Respectfully it is pretty myopic and small-minded to make a sweeping claim of a person’s intelligence because he or she said that a film you like is “confusing”. I hope for your sake that you don’t ever find yourself wholly judged by one uttered statement out of a million.
I thought Dune was a great film.
Christopjer Foote Im still fascinated by those who do. The only thing great for me is the score. Everything else is such a bore. Sting horribly overacts especially in that fight scene. The longer version is even worse.
Sting's scenes were the among the best thing in the movie ... he plays the cocky adonis with the over the top swagger very much like how Rutger Hauer played Roy Batty, its the kind of great cocky villain we hardly see anymore nowadays because of how people like you (Ruben) thinks such characters should not exist because they are "overacting" ... but for people like me I appreciate a good serving of such characters which is going extinct in movies ..
88feji uh Rutger Hauer performance as Batty the replicant is 10 times better. He kept Batty menacing but calm. It was terrifying when he did resort to violence such as the eye gouging. Sting however was just embarrasingly loud. "I will kill him!" just makes me cringe ugh terrible performance from a dud of a movie.
Boring.
Though I wouldn't go as far as calling it "great", I do like the film overall, especially the set design, costumes, atmosphere and Lynch's style and surreal moments...I don't expect Oscar caliber acting in any sci-fi film so the slightly hammy performances don't detract from my enjoyment of it...NOW!!
too late to mention, but please read the book. dune was a great book. the movie, as florid as it is, was not as good as the book.
Dune cost 40 million. The Terminator cost a whopping 6 million and Siskel couldnt be bothered to actually watch the movie.
the difference between siskel and ebert: ebert kind of guess there is something strange going on with dune, siskell gave up in 5 minutes... the difference between an average and a good critic
All 3 are cult classics
Siskel had stated on many occasions before that he didn't like SF.
Also, the studio brass stuck their nose and ruined this movie. Had the director been allowed to do his job, it would've been a different reaction of the critics.
After this, i'm ready to hurl watching their review of "Blade Runner"
Depends on which review. They liked the 1992 Director's Cut a lot.
I was not pleased with runaway as well it reminded me of a mechanical version of gremlins which I did not like
Dune needs a 21st century reboot with James Cameron or Ridley Scott at the chair. It could be so good. You'd think Hollywood would've thought about that instead of doing the 48th Spiderman of 52nd Batman movie. I'm so goddam sick of comic book movies that I could puke. Hey, btw, Hollywood.....we're still hanging on Danny Glover's last line in Predator 2. It set up a sequel better than any other movie line I can think of.
Scott was going to direct Dune back in '84, but the financing fell thru, and he decided to go with Legend...
I used to respect Siskel and Ebert until this minute. Dune was a great movie, one of the greatest sci-fi movies of all time. These two blockheads want the story fed to them like pablum on a baby spoon. if they didn't get it tough luck for them.
The book was shit, and the movie much worse than that.