Siskel & Ebert: THE WORST FILMS OF 1984
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- Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel stick it to DUNE, CITY HEAT, BOLERO and other classic turds.
Recorded off-air to VHS, 1984
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Wonderful. These guys were irreplaceable. Miss them beyond words!
+purpletoe101
I agree 100%...I didn't always agree with them...But their discussions did convince me to take a look at certain films that I may not have watched if not for these two guys...I will miss them dearly....
Old-Guy-Rants Me too.
@@TheGimpPimp1 Yep. Siskel was particularly bad and non-sensical with his reasons for not liking some movies. But I didn't care. I loved watching them.
Elitist douchbags.
@@AGoat1971 and one was an oil driller
Never will I ever forget either of these two, some of the best film critics who ever lived.
Me neither.
Yeah they were really good critics.
Strongwind l also remember when S & E were on PBS before "regular" TV
@@jacknakash2677 Me too.
S & E were the best. Even though there were many times I did not agree with them. If they gave a film thumbs up, I didn't like it. If they gave a thumbs down, I liked it. And of course there were many times they couldn't agree with each other on liking a film or hating it. But I always gave S & E a lot of respect. They were the Kings of movie reviews.
God, I'm a lot older than I thought I was. This was 35 years ago.
Now, almost 40 years ago. I was 22, young and full of promise. Now, I'm 62, and the promise has been ground to dust.
When I was in eighth grade, my best friend and his family were constantly winning radio contests. It was uncanny. His mom won tickets to the local premiere of Sheena. It was rated PG, but it showed Tanya Roberts' exquisite bare breasts, and we could not have been happier. He died a few years ago, and when I think of Star Wars, Sheena, Eye of the Tiger, Mickey (Toni Basil), and a few other fond memories from the early 80s, I often think of him.
I remember cataloguing all the PG movies that cable channels would show during the day which had topless scenes in them. My friends and I had a list, and let each other known when they were going to be on.
Those were the days...
Our childhood friendships are memorable beyond compare.
Tenderfoot prepper so sorry for ur loss the death of a friend who is irreplacable is impossible tocomprehend let alone recover from may he rip
I'm sorry for your loss. And also, RIP Tanya Roberts.
I love the time before they changed the ratings to include PG-13 because of Indians Jones.
The good days when films were 5 bucks a ticket!
They still are if you hit matinees
That was a lot back then. Unless it was a $1 it was a lot.
Nobody went to Bo Derek films in the 80's for the story.
For anyone interested, $5 in 1984 equates to $12.19 in 2019 money.
Not too shocking actually that the price of a movie back then equals about the same as today. The cost of stuff is relative to the money supply and human nature. I guess we value watching a movie about as much now as we did back then.
sounds about right. Avg movie ticket in the big cities is something like $9
Try $35 a ticket for adults and $33 for children, a box of greasy popcorn is $12 and a soda is $6 highway robbery.
Dang!
Films were $5 in 1987 in Canadian money, they knew it was rather high so created $2.50 Tuesdays and that's when all the teenagers went and where the fun was!
Tanya roberts was hot, though
s. orm Gamalson I discovered her just in time for puberty.
Yeah. It's a good movie on mute.
🤣🤚
s. orm Gamalson 1984 back when we were all young and attractive.
And a wonderful actress
"My hero!" "...not mine"
that made me laugh. i like that a lot. siskel and ebert are funny.
Sheena was never intended to be etertaining ..it was a Vehicle to film Tanya roberts with as little clothes as possible .. an artistic vision i whole heartedly support
Then why weren't there more nude scenes?
WHATTTT!!!!!!.....😫..YOU!!...YOU!!...TAKE THAT BACK!!....😤....missed consideration for an Oscar by 👌that much!!💩.....four years later....
1984 was such a good year for movies that I don't even remember most of this crap.
Only one on the list I had the displeasure of seeing at the cinema was Cannonball Run II. Even as a kid, I thought that movie sucked
Very true
Schush Cannonball Run didn’t give it much to work with. It was a halfway decent premise for a movie and enough jokes for a 30-minute sitcom. About the only genuinely funny moment was Jack Elam appearing from behind a curtain with horror music in the background. The story ran out about the same time the coke ran out on the set. The ending made you embarrassed you were still in the theater.
1984 doesn't even compare to 1971, 1994, or 1999. Those years were way better than seeing stupid films like Ghostbusters or Footloose.
That's not a zebra, it's a painted horse.
That was no painted horse . . . that was my wife.
In 1984, nobody thought anything was wrong with stripefacing.
@@isotopefeeney That's not your wife, it's a broom.
Zebras are too mean, lol.
To be fair, a zebra's back is not strong enough to be ridden.
>Cracking up at the Sheena excerpt
>Ebert is also cracking up
Hilarious
Sylvester Stallone's singing in Rhinestone (1984) was so awful that he actually won a Razzie award for a song he sang in that movie known as "Drinkenstein."
I didn't think Dune was as bad as people think. It's got a beginning, a middle and an end which is rare for a Lynch film.
That Bolero segment was hilarious, my god
Wow - today Gene Siskel would have been thrown out of the theater [at the very least] for bringing in his own snacks....
Liked Dune. I liked the look, the creepy ambience, and the entire set.
I can understand not liking Dune, but that one scene they showed was one of my favorite parts of the movie. The worm devouring the spice harvester was a terrific special effect, especially considering doing effects work that involves sand is difficult due to its non-scalability.
I haven't seen the whole film by any means, but that scene does not look as dumb as a lot of other scenes shown on this episode. However, I think Siskel & Ebert chose that scene to showcase how slow and plodding they thought the film was, and you have to remember this was only a year after the much faster-paced Return of the Jedi. I am aware Dune has underwent a lot of re-evaluation among some.
I think the sand was something like microbeads to give a more realistic look with the models.
@001 002 Dune is, was and always will be a piece of shit. Bon appetit.
001 002
These two are also revered in the movie industry. Your point?
:P
@@TooCooFoYou If I may, Siskel and Ebert were two people who got paid to give their opinion and like many other critics, they thought their opinion could be the only one and mocked filmmakers who actually put their necks on the line to produce a movie. Also, they were highly hypocritical in their standards. Ebert criticized John Carpenter's The Thing as having characters with no dimension to them yet he highly praises a movie like Stranger Than Paradise where the characters are less than two dimensional and the movie lays like a turd for an hour and a half. Critics' words are valuable for the moment. However, movies will live on forever and time is extremely forgiving on a movie. Case in point: Movies like The Elephant Man which were roundly mocked for being slow ("elephantine" some critics used) is rarely found listed without a 4 out of 4 star rating. Even Animal House, which never got above a 3 out of 4 star rating for decades is now considered a 4 out of 4 star comedy.
I wish Gene Siskel would have written books like Ebert did.
They would have been like him...boring, dull, and lifeless.
When it came to writing, Ebert was the better writer. I remember when they were on Letterman, Siskel said he felt he would have to quit his job at the Tribune to concentrate on writing.
And wish his reviews were posted at Rotten Tomatoes like Roger Eberts are.
Every film on this list deserved to be there...except Dune.
Dune is one of the worst films of all time so it easily places on worst of the year lists.
I used to walk in front of Roger Ebert's home every morning for years and never knew it. Only years later I made the connection while leafing through an old, old issue of Chicago magazine showing extreme closeups of local celebrities' homes. Roger and his wife converted three apartments into a massive single occupancy residence, a part of which was a home theater room. Gene lived a few blocks east in a co-op. A formerly semi-dumpy neighborhood transformed into an area exclusively for the richy rich.
I was just a kid when these were new but I pretty much watched their shows weekly, they are just part of my childhood and part of our shared culture, very much missed, both of them and those years.
Diet Shasta with Nutrasweet-now that’s a callback!
With eighteen different flavors. Amazing.
With the great taste of Nutrasweet!
I freaking loved Dune, even if it was terrible.
Dune was way to long of a story to fit into one 2 hour film. The sci-fi channel mini series was much better. If someone had a big budget and made a 5 hour or longer film, mini-series, or trilogy, it would be a great film.
Toto did the soundtrack for it, which is one of the reasons why I love it
@@BrettonFerguson David Lynch made a long version, but no way was that gonna be released in 1984.
those loonies had no idea what they were talking about!!! Dune kicks ass!
It was certainly "Terrible" THEN, but time has been a lot kinder to it over the years (Same can be said for "Heaven's Gate", especially the Director's Cut)
I just rewatched Dune. It's a mess but a highly watchable mess. Parts of it are endlessly fascinating and the production design is in parts breathtaking.
When I was a kid I was into Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica. When the previews for Dune came out I made sure I avoided it like the plague.
Rest In Peace Tanya Roberts
I loved the commercial at the end RIP Pan AM.
When my brother and I were born, our grandfather bought each of us 100 shares in a company. He got AT&T. I got Pan Am.
@ Grandfather did not understand the concept of diversification.
pan am is actually still around....freight trains, i was a conductor and my checks were from pan am
I loved Sheena as a teenage boy.
Dune is now a cult classic. A totally alien, original sci-fi.
Yeah, the classic Dune is a damn mess, but I still love it.
"Long Live The Fighters !"
Oh Stallone...You turned down Beverly Hill cops and Romancing the Stone for Rhinestone? Your critical career died after that
Creed
Rocky Balboa
Cop Land
Demolition Man
Cliffhanger
Rambo
Assassins
Well given Stallone made his version of Beverly Hills Cop into Cobra which stunk and I cannot think of Stallone in Romancing the Stone at all so we dodged two bullets there. My guess is if Stallone did make Romancing the Stone we wouldn't have gotten Back to the Future as the success of RtS was what made BttF.
Beverly Hills Cop was originally an action film...don`t think it woud have had the same result..
Yeah but he got to nail Dolly Parton in her prime.
@@thorgrootsweetrabbit2244 If true, two VERY ENTHUSIASTIC Thumb's Up, Sly!
"Rhinestone" was really awful. Stallone SINGING is enough to make you run out of the theater! I saw "City Heat" on cable and I can't remember a single thing from that movie. It was a rare film where both critics gave it zero stars in their articles. "North" and "I Spit on Your Grave" are the only other movies I can think of with that dubious achievement. No doubt that Bo Derek's hubby wrecked her career.
No, Roger gave City Heat 1/2 a star.
Hmm. Now it's a half star. I thought I remembered his original Sun Times article where he gave it zero. Well, either way, the movie really sucked.
Rhinestone has a sick appeal to me,. it's lousy, but funny to me.
But sadly John Derek who passed away in 1999.
Stallone singing is terrifying, and I'm a fan of his.
He has a brother called Frank Stallone who is a singer and has released albums.
@Vinnie Provolone Secret...agent man.
He should have make some rap music A a a adrian. ..A a a Adriaaaan !
I think I liked this opening the best. Kinda amusing. Better than putting down their change to get their papers and looking smug. They shld have gone over much more movies. These scenes lasted a while.
Burt Reynolds was the Adam Sandler of the 80's.
ecwdown he was that awful? Holy shit!
but he started high....Deliverance....Sharkey`s Machine.....first Smokey and the Bandit......and crashed like Eddie Murphy or John Travoltra
Actually, Burt Reynolds perfectly mirrored John Travolta: They both had a 3 good movies in the 70's, then made crap for the decade, then had one film in the 90's turn their careers around:
Travolta 70's: Grease, Saturday Night Fever, Urban Cowboy.
Reynolds 70's: Deliverance, The Longest Yard, Smokey & The Bandit.
Travolta: Pulp Fiction
Reynolds: Boogie Nights.
@@crashburn3292 Cannonball Run II is so bad it hurts. Its completely obvious ...especially Burt & Dom Delouise ...everyone is going through the motions for a paycheck
@@crashburn3292 AND they both shat their big comebacks away after by making more drek.
Never saw Rhinestone, but EVERY time I went to the movies in '84, the trailer for Rhinestone was shown.
Sheena's zebra is obviously a horse painted black and white.
Dune does have its fans, thou.
Only those that blew the sand around. 😆
Absolutely adore both of these gentlemen. I also adore Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter and Silent Night, Deadly Night.
The bath scene in Sheena made me feel all tingly as a kid...
It still does for me.
Are you sure you're not thinking of the scene from "Beastmaster"?
That movie was PG and had full nudity. The 80s.
The Stallone movie...a better title would be “Pigmaleon”
The only problem with Dune was that it needed to be at least ten hours long to the tell the books story.
5 dollars? Wow.
wtf is happening in the sheena movie lol, and the music during that sequence makes no sense at all.
Gene throwing in his home "movies" are better than Derek in Tarzan. Hilarious
Kinda like to see the Bill Murray review they mention the following week.
Probably is ghostbusters
@NotSnarl Always thought Ghostbusters was incredibly over rated.
@@adamsmith859 "Over-rated?" I don't think so. "Ghostbusters" is a glorious film for fans who
prefer to see it.
As much as I love Tanya Roberts she was also totally miscast in A View to a Kill the following year
"JAMES!!!"
Wow! "Sheena" has MST3K written all over it.
lol...
Maybe they can get it for the next season of the revival.
Alamo James it has what?
@@treystephens4490 "Mystery Science Theater 3000"
That music choice was bizarre tho
I guess Burt Reynolds did turn into The Human Bomb in the '80s...
How he went from "Deliverance" to all of those godawful movies in the 80's is just heartbreaking...
@@BackwoodsFilms He admitted he did one or two too many Hal Needham good ol boy car chase movies . Should've quit after Bandit 2
@@BackwoodsFilms But he was good in Striptease,and Boogie Nights.
It´s funny how they (in the Burt Reynolds segment) looked down on TV actors as opposed to movie actors. Also, a movie ticket was 5 bucks!
they were pointing out how badly he was squandering his career. I love Burt, one of my favorites, but man, he really did listen to the wrong people- HAL NEEDAM and blew his single best chance of all time, by turning down, TERMS OF ENDEARMENT that won Jack Nicholson an Oscar. Imagine had Reynolds done the film, won his oscar! He'd have all the great parts in the 80's and 90's. Avoided the direct to video junk he got slimed with...
YET he came from television!
I have to say, I read the first 4 Dune novels before I saw the film, and I was still mostly lost when it came to the movie. I mean, I was only 14, but I had no problems understanding the novels.
Now a days movie stars are trying to break into television.
Yep
...ever since The Sopranos, the tide has turned.
Bo Derrick's film career should have ended with 10.
i was 12 in 84 and Sheena was one of the greatest films i have ever seen. i watched it over and over and over LOL. along with beast master.
i also actually liked Rhinestone. now i know its no great movie and i partially like it because i was 12 and its nostalgic for me. but i would still argue its a dumb fun movie and sometimes thats what you want to watch.
Love The Beastmaster absolute classic.
Patrik Stewert was in Dune? Wow, I didnt see it, my freinds felt it was a Star Wars rip off so we didnt see it
Pointless garbage, there's no point watching it ever
They said Dune was a Star Wars ripoff. Oh, the irony.
Rhinestone is NOT only the worst film of 1984, it's gotta B in the list of the worst movies EVER!!
Rhinestone or Streets of Fire? They were both pretty bad.
@@rosselliswilkinson Yeah on how not to make a movie with Dolly Parton and Stallone.
DC Cab is probably the worst movie ever. LoL
Dune was good, and fairly faithful adaptation of the book.
What’s so funny is they’re gripping over 5 bucks?!! Movies are now over $20.00 and they put out more crap than ever!!😂
If ebert was around today, he’d be a gamer
Stallone first blood 1982.....awesome flick
In the opening intro it looks like they’re sneaking up to the balcony to hook up
Tru Valu LOL
U r in every crowd buddy
Umm...only in your mind I guess.
Wonder what Robert Crumb thought of this version of Sheena.
Gotta love the tender animal rampage music.
Ebert pretty much said that Sheena should have shown more T&A and he would've liked the movie better 😂
I know a lot of people like Dune. But I got so bored by it, I actually went to sleep watching it.
Clifford Shafran That movie was impossible, absolutely unwatchable.
Ahhhhh good ole days, they was the top of the line comes to the review movies and movies was depend on there reviews back in the '80s when I was a teenager , I remember my parents used to watch their show show every week
Would you happen to have the "Stinkers of 1982" episode? It was on CZcams at one time, but I can't find it anywhere.
Alas, no.
These guys are LEGENDS.
legendary nerds
@@moralcompass3252 Movie nerds. And that's awesome.
Boy that Sheena scene packs *a lot* of bad into a very short time.
Damn! Now I'm in the mood for a Diet Shasta.
No Derek is still one of the most beautiful women in history.I don't think the problem was so much her acting, but more in the roles she chose. Some absolutely horrible movies.
Dude nothing, I repeat, NOTHING made before the year 2000 (that being anything from the previous century) can even begin to compare to the loathsome garbage we've had flowing out of Hollywood's abscessed anus for the last 18 plus years (that being most everything from the 21st century).
With extremely little and very rare exclusions, the vast majority of Hollywood pap has been utterly forgettable and pathetic, destined to be forgotten and reviled by any future society. I guess we just didn't realize at the time, at least most of us excluding myself, how good we really had it back then. I knew we were living through the golden ages, I just didn't know it would all dry up and go completely away one day. 😢
So sad, so very, very sad...
I like 4 of these crappy movies.
Which ones?
“Wow, that’s boring. I’ve had more fun with sand at the beach.”
Great comment from Gene about “Dune.”
wonder how many animals were hurt on the Sheena set. Also, i think i need that smoke-away product, lol
Oh man, Best Defense!!! Eddie Murphy totally trashed that movie himself when he guest hosted SNL that year.
That was the third movie he was in at the start of his career after 48 Hours and Trading Places. He got paid more than both of the first 2 combined, even though the movie bombed at the box office and the first 2 are epic.
@@TrumpFanNetwork2 The editor of this film was Sidney Wolinsky whose been fired three times from the project and due to many creative differences.
Patrick Stewart looks the same in 1984 (probably filmed in 1983) as he does in 2019. O_O
$5 tickets! Those were the days ....
Ohmygosh...the facking year I was born....I havent even seen the video yet and Im on the edge of my seat.
Re: the Burt Reynolds "bomb": Years ago, I saw a sports presentation about a performer who had a body suit with its front consisting of steel "skids." On a runway, there were two long parallel rows of hay bales about 8-10 feet apart, soaked in gasoline so that when lit, they formed a long tunnel of flame. The plan was for the performer to be strapped by the waist to the underside of a single-prop plane while holding onto the strut between the front wheels. The pilot was to bring the plane down to almost ground level, where the performer would then release his waist strap, let got of the strut, and shoot through the tunnel of flame on his steel skids.
As fate would have it, the waist strap let go while they were still hundreds of feet in the air. The performer dangled from the strut for a few moments, but the weight of his suit was too much and he dropped. The outro, as the credit rolled, were empty platitudes about how he'd died doing what he loved!
I cannot be the only person who saw this show.
I wish I could go back to 1984. I'd make my 24 year old self go see every one of these movies... and laugh!
City heat was a great buddy cop vehicle that perfectly exploited the strengths of both clint and burt. Great supporting cast with Rip Torn and Jane Alexander as Addy. RIP to gene and roger but they missed badly on this one.
Dune would be a perfect candidate for a remake. I liked some of the David Lynch one, but it was a holy mess, and should be done right.
It is being remade by Dennis Villeneuve(Blade Runner 2049, Enemy,Sicario)
i still would like to see what alejandro jodorowsky would've done with that film.
It literally is being remade right now
Who'd have thought that the future Captain Picard snorting spice would be an epic cinematic event...
Never realized just how many infamously AWFUL movies came out in this year!
Even Clint Eastwood is allowed one dud like City Heat in his storied career. Burt Reynolds screwed up his back big time in one of his fight scenes!
To make matters either better or worse, Richard Benjamin’s long
awaited troubled production of
City Heat for Warner Bros has been an amazing hit of both legendary actors: Academy Award winner Clint Eastwood and Oscar
nominee Burt Reynolds. Released on Friday December 14, 1984 and earned some mixed reviews from
critics, including Richard Schickel
of Time Magazine. The film was shot on the Universal backlot
after three years into the making.
It was great fun to make this film even better. City Heat has been
earned many nominations in 1986:
an Movie Music Award, MPSE Golden Reel Award-Music and
and both Apex & Fennecus Awards for many of their
wonderful contributions.
Dom Deluise was a horrible actor, but he did have his funny moments. Burt Reynolds was just having fun at this time, and City Heat was pretty bad. Certainly Undeserving of the 2 stars in it. Clint & Burt deserved better.
City Heat was where Burt Reynolds got hit by a real chair instead of a breakaway chair in his jaw, shattering it, causing an addiction to pain-killers and the start of his career's decline.
"Wow, that's boring! I had more fun with sand at the beach." Well, I hate sand anyway. It's rough and it's coarse, and it gets everywhere.
7:40: I’m only 23, so 1984 is not something I remember, but this scene is so hilarious in its stupidity. I love that Siskel & Ebert are immediately ready to pan it when the camera turns to the studio again.
84 Dune was such a lost opportunity.
I worked at a movie theater for a few years and Dune was the first movie I ever threaded through a projector. I remember a local TV personality named"Major Astro", who showed cartoons when I was a kid on weekday afternoons after school. 25 years later I saw him walk into the auditorium showing Dune and leaving a few minutes later saying "That movie sucks". I just busted out laughing.
It doesnt suck....
Dune was Amazing! Epic 80's sci-fi flick!
Totally Agree. This film gets way too much hate. It is an epic movie.
I'm fine if people find something to enjoy in it, but it's definitely a terrible film. It's just a complete mess. That was true in 1985, and it's true now.
One of the greatest. One has to be a warrior to enjoy it.
Dune is a nightmare in a good way and beautifully shot
They forgot Supergirl :-/
'Ive had more fun with sand at the beach' 😆
That's not an insult, sand is super fun!
I really don't think zebras would like it if you tried to ride them. A horse painted to look like zebra?
@Timesthree Thehighest:
Well that's correct, Timesthree Thehighest! In fact zebras aren't trainable as horses are, especially wild zebras. So they painted a trained horse to look like Sheena (Tanya Roberts) is riding a zebra hehehehe
I forgot all about City Heat with Burt Reynolds.
So Fun! Thank You for posting!!
20:34
No, they made it separately. Because the scenes with Dud in were...a dud, they got Eddie Murphy in to shoot more scenes in post production to add laughs. It didn't work.
According to producer Marty Katz, Paramount/Viacom has fired editor Sidney Wolinsky for clashing with Paul Haggar, Cecelia Hall, Hal Harrison, Kenneth Miller, Sean Hanley and Beth Sterner due to
many creative differences during the post production of "Best Defense." It just didn't work out, he was replaced by Michael A. Stevenson of Disney to start cut the whole picture while Billy Weber
who received as additional editor for the picture's action sequences.