King only took his flames off because he knew Adv Coc could hurt him and he needed to beat zoro before zoro could attack. Sanji doesn’t have anything close to Adv Coc so king would keep his flame on
That interpretation is inconsistent throughout the story Zoro made up his own guess but it was never confirmed And even in egghead zoro and luffy fought the flames on seraphim meaning they should’ve gotten a gauge on how durable they were, but still admitted that they couldn’t damage them regardless of what they did. The lunarian thing is probably an endurance issue that’ll get explained later on.
@@IMO3530 imo it was because Luffy and Zoro didnt use black lighting coating against the flame ON seraphim. ACoC coating was what actually scared Flames ON King so bro started blocking and doging Zoro in King of Hell mode. but keeping his flame on is not draining his Stamina we see King always chilling in flame on casually like the seraphim do.
Thats just a less likely interpretation, they dont need to USE gear 5 and acoc to conclude that they cant damage the seraphim, Since they know how strong their peaks are (since they used it before) and since they saw with first hand expiernece how durable the seraphim are they can imply and conclude that fighting then with flames on would be useless whihc is what they said and did.@@Kronzo_Z In short, they have knowledge of their strength and the seraphims durability so if they say that fighting them is useless, then its more likely that they know they cant damage them
Great video. My only issue is with you saying that Sanji loses to Mr. 1. As you mentioned, Devil Fruit abilities get stronger the more experienced the user is, which means that Mr. 1's steel is more durable than regular steel. I also like how you also mentioned the SBS where Oda said that Sanji could destroy 21 bats with a singe kick, which means he could break steel. The issue with stopping at that is that you fail to recognize the difference in strength between a regular kick from Sanji and a full powered kick from Sanji. To put this in perspective, a regular kick from Sanji barely did any significant damage to Mr. 2, but a full powered one took him out completely. With this difference in strength between a full powered Sanji kick and a regular Sanji kick, I believe that Sanji could still harm Mr. 1 regardless of his devil fruit. To add onto this, the power Sanji's regular kick completely shocked Dog Krieg, which means that a healthy should be comparable to his hardened Steel, which is again supported by an injured Sanji somewhat matching Gin, who could break Pearl's hardened steel armor. Because of all this, I believe Sanji could beat Mr. 1 mid to high difficuty.
At most I see high diff tbh Sanji would probably be the next Zeff from it imo like losing a leg or something probably Don't see him not taking serious/permanent injury from this fight since it's a bad MU for him, Luffy, etc but considering plot people definitely underestimate what he could maybe awaken during these fights similar to Zoro who needed to be pushed to/past his limit to use the breath of all things, Asura, etc. Zoro was also still injured throughout most of preTS so I think Sanji would perform better than people give him credit for. Honestly even before this Sanji was clashing with swords and sharp objects with just his legs but definitely wouldn't be able to block all of Mr. 1's attacks similar to Zoro. We also saw Mr. 2 vs Mr. 1 and could use that to at least gauge that it would be competitive
@Thatguyright Yeah Zoro was overpowering Mr. 1 overall without extreme difficulty but he just didn't have an answer to be able to damage or defend against some of Mr. 1s abilities similar to most people who could've been put against Daz Bones. For a character like Luffy or Sanji they would need to rely on intuition/strategy or need to go past their limits I feel like nuance is a bit important and a but overlooked/undervalued sometimes overall. Zoro could definitely beat kuroobi in a 1v1, shu, or Apoo, and Luffy overpowered Cracker easily in gear 4 and even Katakuri to a good degree, but with Zoro being significantly injured his chances would've been much lower arguably or resulted in much worse injury if he fought kuroobi underwater to save Luffy for instance. Shu was just a really bad MU instance, and Apoo can catch even admirals off guard with a lot of Supernova and characters having really dangerous abilities overall if unprepared. Luffy vs Cracker and Katakuri were a bit of a mix of a lot of things with kinda bad MUs into an army of biscuit soldiers that he could only break with gear 4 (or if they were softened with water), and Katakuri having advanced observation haki and generally outclassing him in most categories/stats throughout most of that fight
Flame off king doesn't have bad dura. He went out in three hits, but all those hits can do good damage to kaido. Acoc Luffy damaged kaido with base punches, acoc zoro would do even more.
King isn’t very weak with his flames down zoro was just using advanced conquerors coating which sanji doesn’t have so I don’t see him doing enough damage to defeat king. Also it’s not fair to have Luffy fight back on whole cake so the score should be sanji 4 zoro 6
king used flames off mode because he knew it wouldnt protect him since zoro unlocked advanced conq. haki. He wouldnt use flames off against sanji. King beats sanji
when was this stated? also if you remember king went flames off multiple times in his 2v1 against sanji before so yes he would go flames off against sanji it’s literally been shown
when did he go flames off against sanji? not a single time lol. in every sanji vs king scene sanji was beaten. he was blitzed and beaten in both base form and full zoan form. he coudlnt even match kings speed with flames on in zoan and in base form. sanji barely had enough stamina to beat queen how the fuck would he beat king? send me the link of the video where he goes flames off. even if that scene existed sanji still got blitzed and beaten by king. its not even a close fight its literally low diff bc it doesnt matter it its ifrit jambe or diable jambe sanji cant hurt king. He cant even hurt kaido so what makes u think he can hurt king who has tougher skin?@@yo-kaikid1925 queen has 0 haki feats and is just a guy who can stretch his body parts, shot laser from his eyes and use electricity like germa lmao hes not even impressive. Cracker would beat that bum easily
I think the statement that says zoro is comparable with Luffy was before Gear 4. Also if zoro could cut doffy's strings why didn't he cut the bird cage which was weaker. He would also be at an distance because of doffy's awakening could control the environment would stop zoro from doing attacks bc he could just grab his leg or arms or swords. In the Sanji vs doffy fight they were flying, zoro wouldn't be able to reach him
"He can just grab his legs and swords." Zoro broke out of Fujitora's hold. So Zoro can break out of an admiral's hold but he can't against Doffy's? Even though both immobilizes and the admiral is clearly far stronger? This the kind of backwards logic you need for these braindead arguments. And unlike Sanji, Zoro can actually attack while immobile. The two aren't even close to comparable. Also knew I should've stopped reading at bird cage. Why didn't Fujitora cut the birdcage? Answer that with no headcannon before trying to be a hack and downplay Zoro.
bro its like saying that fujitora is weaker than doflamingo because he can't stop the bird cage . + zoro still got ashura in his pocket even at dressrosa and zoro is the pro of the straw hats for the armement haki doflamingo getting a bad scar if ashura hit he could even die + ashura boost zoro all stats even his speed like we seen on rooftop.
Everything inside sanji body should have split apart when unlocking germa genes (when his body was breaking down) Yet he just punched himself back to normal sounds like he healed himself
Sanji's observation Haki that let him get jumped by Black Maria's fodder in Wano? Or Sanji's observation Haki that let him get grabbed by Queen and dragged through the walls? Y'all are so desperate to hype Sanji's mid observation Haki despite the constant piss-poor showing. Sanji is getting caught off-guard just as he's always been.
@@Shark-hn4mv man forgot when sanji dodged katakuri's attack who literally has advanced observation. and the only reason sanji got caught by black maria was that he thought a girl was in danger. if it was a guy, first of all sanji wouldnt go there and even if he did, he wouldnt get caught because he'd know its an enemy
@@Shark-hn4mvor sanji’s observation haki that let him dodge an attack from someone using future sight or sanji’s observation that has luffy saying he wanted sanji to teach him
@@Ecto1777to be fair he had to hit king when his flames were out which replaces king’s extreme durability for so pretty good speed. Also sword fights in anime are different. It can’t just be people getting cut and slashed for a long time other wise they would die. They have to only get cut a couple times before they’re down. Sanji and luffy have to keep physically draining their enemies by using blunt force while Zoro has to dodge and block every attack and then get a couple hits in to defeat his enemy who will most likely use a sword.
@@tesoro5620 still you can't deny the fact zoro has a much better offense just lookk at queen vs sanji so much hits to make queen ko only few hits for zoro and flames off aren't an excuse as king is the strongest member of kaido crew stringer than queen and even with his flames off he probably as a similiar durability than queen as he has an insane durability with flames on then most likely with flames on he is much more durable than queen
@@Ecto1777 oh Zoro definitely has better offensive power since his armament is stronger and he now has conquerors haki. Sanji has the speed to knock down enemies with force but his armament haki pales in comparison to Zoro. With Sanji new enhancements he is able to use stronger flames to increase the damage he gives which is why queen felt the irift janbe attacks more.
@@Ecto1777You man are actually special. A blade needs less attacks to cause as much damage as a punch or kick. This is evident in real life and in One Piece. Luffy can be beat up all day and take it, but he avoids cutting attacks for a reason. By your logic, Luffy's offense is bad too cause he has to use multiple attacks to put down his opponents too. Read the story with some nuance.
not really he actually has pretty good stamina he got pummeled by black maria then without a break had to 2v1 a first and second commander while carrying zoro then without a break again gets put into his 1v1 against queen were he most likely loses even more stamina from his awakening then only had to rest for like 5-10 minutes after all that
You really think Sanji with no conquerors can beat King and hold down Kaido? You’re tripping, coated attacks are pretty much the only thing that damage them. Stop riding Sanji
Sanji had Ifrit Jambe before the raid. Reread his fight, and you'll see that he says hed been training his armament haki & that the exoskeleton enhanced speed and wait not was only what he GAINED. Referring to his genetic enhancements (which would potentially awaken in a fight against two yonko as well). Sanji with Ifrit can at the very least pary Kaido and possibly push him around a bit. And he may even outspeed him for a bit without his FS.
U actually compared kuma’s body to mrs 1, like u most know kuma is not normal steel, zoro couldn’t even cut through the guy properly after getting way stronger
No way is Sanji's speed is gonna keep him alive on the Roof. Kaido showed us that he could see the Future and was super fast. Sanji not tanking Kaido attacks or Kings nor a combined attack from Kaido and Big Mom.
Kaido could use future sight but he didn't use it until Luffy used Gear 4 Snakeman and advanced conquerors. Sanji's speed would certainly help because Kaido won't use future sight unless he feels entirely overwhelmed. He'd treat Sanji like he treated Zoro and not use it.
@yugfus lmao Speed? Speed not helping Sanji vs Kaido. Kaido didn't treat Zoro, injuries from tanking a Combined Yonkou attack without warning is why Zoro was hurt. Zoro was fighting a Hybrid Kaido equally while severally injured. Sanji would have done no better than the Scabbards
also when you make what if ace reached his full potential next also make what if shanks never lost his left arm and decided to become the worlds' greatest swordsman not just a tonko and many more to come
Idk if it’ll change anything to much cause I remember something saying that even though shanks lost his arm he didn’t get any weaker, actually he growth continued but then again I might just be wrong
@@user-yc9vv9xb8s damn I’d say hot take but alot ppl think Mihawk a fraud. I can’t agree with you but we all are most definitely titled to our opinions
no lol, if killer can manage on the rooftop then so can sanji, he is defs stronger then killer. Sanji would at least make king go high difficult battle, possibly losing.
you should never make a powerscaling video again. Thinking that Sanji would beat Mr. 1 in Alabasta Kaku in Enies Loby, you forgot to mention that Kaku ate a zoan devil fruit after that powerscaling Pica in Dressrosa is just delusional And Sanji is not doing half of the things Zoro did, does not an attack that can damage Kaido, does not have the cutting flames techinique to deal with prometeus.
Never said Sanji would beat mr.1. Kaku eating a devil fruit after is actually worse for his scaling, considering ALL the cp9 agents were measured via their base forms. And since we know that jabra has more expiernece and is just a better devil fruit user this could open up an agrument for jabra> kaku at the time Pica is terrible you didnt address anything regarding that. Never said hed cut through prometheus, hed stall it with his speed. Zoro never defeated promethues either just stalled it via cutting through him Your terrible, never make a power scaling comment again you baboon lol, seems like your just coping off anger without making any valid argument, doubt your middle aged brain could anyways
jabra is 2180 kaku is 2200 a regular marine is 15 with a 20 difference thats a 1 and 1/3 fodder marine deference between their base forms knowing carnivores zoans give a larger boost than regular ones and that jabra has more experience with his devil fruit its very clear jabra is stronger than kaku he even states he is stronger than kaku with his devil fruit
Kings flame attacks also wouldn't really have an effect on sanji. As they burn at a lower temperature and sanji is very resistant to fire. the same cant be said in reverse, as sanji's flame is hotter. As for zoro vs doflamingo, he loses. He isnt strong enough to take on law and luffy like doflamingo did. And he also wasn't capable of cutting through the bird cage, which shows the difference in haki. Not to mention that wasn't even an awakened attack so doflamingo's higher end attacks would be even better. Zoro wasn't weak, but he isn't comparable to doflamingo or gear 4 at the time.
You're just wrong. In One Piece, magma is canonically superior to fire and has been stated to be so. King specifically has magma-like flames, so his flames are hurting Sanji. This isn't an assumption. We were told what the hierarchy is. Meanwhile you're here claiming Sanji's flames can hurt King. Based on what? When has fire ever hurt King? Your entire argument is headcannon with no facts or support backing it up. King incinerates Sanji with his magma-like flames, and nothing in the story implies Sanji can hurt King with his. And that's not even touching the fact that Sanji needed a NINE hit combo with Ifrit to finish off Queen who has lower durability and absolutely no shown flame resistance. So even in the headcanon scenario where Sanji can hurt King with flames, it still isn't doing much plus King can just switch to invincibility mode after the first hit. Sanji has no out. He straight up loses.
Zoro can only use acoc with Ashura also the him being equal to Luffy during Dressrosa is before Luffy used gear 4 I would say your close but itd be equal tbh.
The vivre card mentions his 320 billion bounty, which was given to him after dressrosa meaning the vivre card was made after dressrosa, meaning it was after he used gear 5
Who said zoro can only use Acoc with ashura? Zoro was even using Acoc in his unnamed attacks. U can easily see that at the start of ep 1035. He even used Acoc in bird dance. And also in the last attack in 103 mercies against king.
I mean, i dont mind this video, but people tend to forget, zoro and sanji were only close in power at the start of one piece, at newer arcs like wano or egghead, zoro could literally one shot sanji
If sanji faught king he surely would have used the Raid Suit the whole fight, the reason he destroyed it after resolving himself to use it before is because Queen keeps pessing him about Germa and wanting to compare science so he destroyed the suit, King would not mention Germa and so sanki would use it once the fight gets intense am sure he would be alot stronger than he was when he defeated Queen. Im sure Oda held back on raid suit Sanj's real potential because its Admiral level or Holy nights, we will see the raid suit again soon as I know a Sanji vs Kizaru final fight is inevitable in Egg Head Arc.
how? saturn is supposedly one of the strongest characters in the verse and sanji got up after one of his attacks while zoro passed out from getting stabbed once by killer
3:40, I will say one thing, that statement was before Kaku ate his devil fruit, and having a Zoan makes you stronger in every physical category. So JAbra with devil fruit is about KAku without devil fruit level
Doriki measures power without devil fruits every time. Jabra's score did not include his devil fruit. Also, Kaku had just received his devil while Jabra had his for quite some time. If anything Jabra would get a better strength increase from his devil fruit than Kaku because Kaku was still figuring his out.
it measures without devil fruit plus we have a statement from jabra saying he is actually stronger than kaku with his devil fruit and we have the knowledge that carnivorous zoans give a larger stat boost than others and if a regular marine is 15 doriki they were 20 apart thats 1 and 1/3 a regular marine and a carnivorous zoan should give a boost larger than that making jabra stronger than kaku
Zoro cant beat doffy because The advantage of luffy g4 compared to Zoro is that Luffy can fly with his g4 and with his awaken doffy can fly And its why Zoro take a lot of time to beat Pica
So he is zoro glazer too huh. he said zoro is stronger than luffy at dressrosa then why didn't he just kill doflamingo cause he is not stronger as luffy. If he is then sanji is strong as luffy also. And he said king can defeat sanji so I'm mad cause sanji is stronger than zoro
Luffy was not fighting sanji and wouldnt do the same to zoro plus zoro wouldnt even fight but if he did he would win because luffy wasnt doing anything but have a great day 😀
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I don't think Sanji could beat King. King took attacks that could hurt Kaido like they were nothing. Sanji has shown nothing comparable to that. He took way more shots to defeat Queen than Big Mom. But a Big Mom who was in better condition didn't do shit to Kaido.
going off 1-1 scaling king is higher then sanji, but like i said in the video the abilities, circumstances and how they fight in character makes it unfavorable on kings behalf
It really saddens me how many people here in the comments underestimate Sanji. He's meant to be equal to Zoro for most of the times, but the fanbase is made out of a bunch of dumbasses.
1:48 - 1:56 Thank you for mentioning this, IMO. Because powerscalers often forget that big part of Zoro's power comes from skin of his opponents
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The delivery was perfect
1:55 got me weak 😂😂😂😂
I mean.... he isn't wrong xd
King only took his flames off because he knew Adv Coc could hurt him and he needed to beat zoro before zoro could attack. Sanji doesn’t have anything close to Adv Coc so king would keep his flame on
I thought flames on was invincible?
@@unknownplayer7667 Very durable but not invincible
That interpretation is inconsistent throughout the story
Zoro made up his own guess but it was never confirmed
And even in egghead zoro and luffy fought the flames on seraphim meaning they should’ve gotten a gauge on how durable they were, but still admitted that they couldn’t damage them regardless of what they did.
The lunarian thing is probably an endurance issue that’ll get explained later on.
@@IMO3530 imo it was because Luffy and Zoro didnt use black lighting coating against the flame ON seraphim. ACoC coating was what actually scared Flames ON King so bro started blocking and doging Zoro in King of Hell mode. but keeping his flame on is not draining his Stamina we see King always chilling in flame on casually like the seraphim do.
Thats just a less likely interpretation, they dont need to USE gear 5 and acoc to conclude that they cant damage the seraphim, Since they know how strong their peaks are (since they used it before) and since they saw with first hand expiernece how durable the seraphim are they can imply and conclude that fighting then with flames on would be useless whihc is what they said and did.@@Kronzo_Z In short, they have knowledge of their strength and the seraphims durability so if they say that fighting them is useless, then its more likely that they know they cant damage them
Great video. My only issue is with you saying that Sanji loses to Mr. 1. As you mentioned, Devil Fruit abilities get stronger the more experienced the user is, which means that Mr. 1's steel is more durable than regular steel. I also like how you also mentioned the SBS where Oda said that Sanji could destroy 21 bats with a singe kick, which means he could break steel. The issue with stopping at that is that you fail to recognize the difference in strength between a regular kick from Sanji and a full powered kick from Sanji.
To put this in perspective, a regular kick from Sanji barely did any significant damage to Mr. 2, but a full powered one took him out completely. With this difference in strength between a full powered Sanji kick and a regular Sanji kick, I believe that Sanji could still harm Mr. 1 regardless of his devil fruit.
To add onto this, the power Sanji's regular kick completely shocked Dog Krieg, which means that a healthy should be comparable to his hardened Steel, which is again supported by an injured Sanji somewhat matching Gin, who could break Pearl's hardened steel armor.
Because of all this, I believe Sanji could beat Mr. 1 mid to high difficuty.
At most I see high diff tbh
Sanji would probably be the next Zeff from it imo like losing a leg or something probably
Don't see him not taking serious/permanent injury from this fight since it's a bad MU for him, Luffy, etc but considering plot people definitely underestimate what he could maybe awaken during these fights similar to Zoro who needed to be pushed to/past his limit to use the breath of all things, Asura, etc. Zoro was also still injured throughout most of preTS so I think Sanji would perform better than people give him credit for.
Honestly even before this Sanji was clashing with swords and sharp objects with just his legs but definitely wouldn't be able to block all of Mr. 1's attacks similar to Zoro. We also saw Mr. 2 vs Mr. 1 and could use that to at least gauge that it would be competitive
Right on Mr 1 was only beating zoro because he was faster and zoro couldn’t break steel but after zoro learned how to cut steel Mr 1 got one tapped
@Thatguyright Yeah Zoro was overpowering Mr. 1 overall without extreme difficulty but he just didn't have an answer to be able to damage or defend against some of Mr. 1s abilities similar to most people who could've been put against Daz Bones. For a character like Luffy or Sanji they would need to rely on intuition/strategy or need to go past their limits
I feel like nuance is a bit important and a but overlooked/undervalued sometimes overall. Zoro could definitely beat kuroobi in a 1v1, shu, or Apoo, and Luffy overpowered Cracker easily in gear 4 and even Katakuri to a good degree, but with Zoro being significantly injured his chances would've been much lower arguably or resulted in much worse injury if he fought kuroobi underwater to save Luffy for instance. Shu was just a really bad MU instance, and Apoo can catch even admirals off guard with a lot of Supernova and characters having really dangerous abilities overall if unprepared.
Luffy vs Cracker and Katakuri were a bit of a mix of a lot of things with kinda bad MUs into an army of biscuit soldiers that he could only break with gear 4 (or if they were softened with water), and Katakuri having advanced observation haki and generally outclassing him in most categories/stats throughout most of that fight
Ain't no way Sanji beats Mr. 1. He loses mid-high diff.
Flame off king doesn't have bad dura. He went out in three hits, but all those hits can do good damage to kaido. Acoc Luffy damaged kaido with base punches, acoc zoro would do even more.
I actually laughed seeing Sanji and Kaidou next to eachother
fr not to mention he wouldnt hit big mom because of his morals
Love your videos keep it up
King isn’t very weak with his flames down zoro was just using advanced conquerors coating which sanji doesn’t have so I don’t see him doing enough damage to defeat king. Also it’s not fair to have Luffy fight back on whole cake so the score should be sanji 4 zoro 6
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Shut up nerd just accept what he said in the video
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Keep it up man
Good video!
king used flames off mode because he knew it wouldnt protect him since zoro unlocked advanced conq. haki. He wouldnt use flames off against sanji. King beats sanji
when was this stated? also if you remember king went flames off multiple times in his 2v1 against sanji before so yes he would go flames off against sanji it’s literally been shown
when did he go flames off against sanji? not a single time lol. in every sanji vs king scene sanji was beaten. he was blitzed and beaten in both base form and full zoan form. he coudlnt even match kings speed with flames on in zoan and in base form. sanji barely had enough stamina to beat queen how the fuck would he beat king? send me the link of the video where he goes flames off. even if that scene existed sanji still got blitzed and beaten by king. its not even a close fight its literally low diff bc it doesnt matter it its ifrit jambe or diable jambe sanji cant hurt king. He cant even hurt kaido so what makes u think he can hurt king who has tougher skin?@@yo-kaikid1925 queen has 0 haki feats and is just a guy who can stretch his body parts, shot laser from his eyes and use electricity like germa lmao hes not even impressive. Cracker would beat that bum easily
1:55 I just spit out my coffee you bastard 😭😂
Zoro and Luffy were comparable until Luffy learned how to apply CoC. Zoro been using Ryou this whole time
I think the statement that says zoro is comparable with Luffy was before Gear 4. Also if zoro could cut doffy's strings why didn't he cut the bird cage which was weaker. He would also be at an distance because of doffy's awakening could control the environment would stop zoro from doing attacks bc he could just grab his leg or arms or swords. In the Sanji vs doffy fight they were flying, zoro wouldn't be able to reach him
"He can just grab his legs and swords."
Zoro broke out of Fujitora's hold. So Zoro can break out of an admiral's hold but he can't against Doffy's? Even though both immobilizes and the admiral is clearly far stronger? This the kind of backwards logic you need for these braindead arguments.
And unlike Sanji, Zoro can actually attack while immobile. The two aren't even close to comparable.
Also knew I should've stopped reading at bird cage. Why didn't Fujitora cut the birdcage? Answer that with no headcannon before trying to be a hack and downplay Zoro.
bro its like saying that fujitora is weaker than doflamingo because he can't stop the bird cage . + zoro still got ashura in his pocket even at dressrosa and zoro is the pro of the straw hats for the armement haki doflamingo getting a bad scar if ashura hit he could even die + ashura boost zoro all stats even his speed like we seen on rooftop.
Everything inside sanji body should have split apart when unlocking germa genes (when his body was breaking down)
Yet he just punched himself back to normal sounds like he healed himself
"He can catch Sanji off gard" My dude forgot about Sanji's observation haki
Sanji's observation Haki that let him get jumped by Black Maria's fodder in Wano? Or Sanji's observation Haki that let him get grabbed by Queen and dragged through the walls?
Y'all are so desperate to hype Sanji's mid observation Haki despite the constant piss-poor showing.
Sanji is getting caught off-guard just as he's always been.
@@Shark-hn4mv man forgot when sanji dodged katakuri's attack who literally has advanced observation. and the only reason sanji got caught by black maria was that he thought a girl was in danger. if it was a guy, first of all sanji wouldnt go there and even if he did, he wouldnt get caught because he'd know its an enemy
@@Shark-hn4mvor sanji’s observation haki that let him dodge an attack from someone using future sight or sanji’s observation that has luffy saying he wanted sanji to teach him
Bro speed is the most overrated stat in one piece kizaru literally proved it
Lmao Sanji got bullied by Vergo. How he gonna beat Pica
vergo is actually the 2nd in command after doflamingo, not pica
Kaido would not respect Sanji like he did Zoro
True because sanji offense is so bad it toook him tens and tens of hits just to beat queen while zoro only hitted king a few times
@@Ecto1777to be fair he had to hit king when his flames were out which replaces king’s extreme durability for so pretty good speed. Also sword fights in anime are different. It can’t just be people getting cut and slashed for a long time other wise they would die. They have to only get cut a couple times before they’re down. Sanji and luffy have to keep physically draining their enemies by using blunt force while Zoro has to dodge and block every attack and then get a couple hits in to defeat his enemy who will most likely use a sword.
@@tesoro5620 still you can't deny the fact zoro has a much better offense just lookk at queen vs sanji so much hits to make queen ko only few hits for zoro and flames off aren't an excuse as king is the strongest member of kaido crew stringer than queen and even with his flames off he probably as a similiar durability than queen as he has an insane durability with flames on then most likely with flames on he is much more durable than queen
@@Ecto1777 oh Zoro definitely has better offensive power since his armament is stronger and he now has conquerors haki. Sanji has the speed to knock down enemies with force but his armament haki pales in comparison to Zoro. With Sanji new enhancements he is able to use stronger flames to increase the damage he gives which is why queen felt the irift janbe attacks more.
@@Ecto1777You man are actually special. A blade needs less attacks to cause as much damage as a punch or kick. This is evident in real life and in One Piece. Luffy can be beat up all day and take it, but he avoids cutting attacks for a reason. By your logic, Luffy's offense is bad too cause he has to use multiple attacks to put down his opponents too. Read the story with some nuance.
Doesn’t sanji also have stamina issues
not really he actually has pretty good stamina he got pummeled by black maria then without a break had to 2v1 a first and second commander while carrying zoro then without a break again gets put into his 1v1 against queen were he most likely loses even more stamina from his awakening then only had to rest for like 5-10 minutes after all that
Imo imo is the goat 🐐
Zoro could get the boost if Bon Clay turned into a Crew Member (Usopp) like he did with Sanji.
You really think Sanji with no conquerors can beat King and hold down Kaido? You’re tripping, coated attacks are pretty much the only thing that damage them. Stop riding Sanji
yes he can beat king and zoro didn’t have conquerors against kaido so once again yes he can hold off kaido
@@yo-kaikid1925 he literally used it on Kaido? Kaido was the ONE that pointed it out??
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1:27 where did you find that chart? I want to check it out, it looks cool
How about based on their diff’s (how difficult their fight would be and how easily they felt with one another’s opponents)
oda was overexaggerating with the steel statement
Sanji had Ifrit Jambe before the raid. Reread his fight, and you'll see that he says hed been training his armament haki & that the exoskeleton enhanced speed and wait not was only what he GAINED. Referring to his genetic enhancements (which would potentially awaken in a fight against two yonko as well). Sanji with Ifrit can at the very least pary Kaido and possibly push him around a bit. And he may even outspeed him for a bit without his FS.
U actually compared kuma’s body to mrs 1, like u most know kuma is not normal steel, zoro couldn’t even cut through the guy properly after getting way stronger
you dropped the ball with king vs sanji .. otherwise good video.
No way is Sanji's speed is gonna keep him alive on the Roof. Kaido showed us that he could see the Future and was super fast. Sanji not tanking Kaido attacks or Kings nor a combined attack from Kaido and Big Mom.
Kaido could use future sight but he didn't use it until Luffy used Gear 4 Snakeman and advanced conquerors. Sanji's speed would certainly help because Kaido won't use future sight unless he feels entirely overwhelmed. He'd treat Sanji like he treated Zoro and not use it.
@yugfus lmao Speed? Speed not helping Sanji vs Kaido. Kaido didn't treat Zoro, injuries from tanking a Combined Yonkou attack without warning is why Zoro was hurt. Zoro was fighting a Hybrid Kaido equally while severally injured. Sanji would have done no better than the Scabbards
@@TheGallant9BRO SAID ZORO WAS EQUAL TO HYBRID KAIDO. nah im done with one piece fans
also he isnt tanking the dual attack of the emperors and living
also when you make what if ace reached his full potential next also make what if shanks never lost his left arm and decided to become the worlds' greatest swordsman not just a tonko and many more to come
The shanks idea is actually pretty fire but I got a lot of other ideas I’d like to tackle first, thanks for the suggestions!
thanks but lets hope luffy is still luffy man @@IMO3530
Idk if it’ll change anything to much cause I remember something saying that even though shanks lost his arm he didn’t get any weaker, actually he growth continued but then again I might just be wrong
@@dingoatemykidneys835 look i know he did not get weaker but still he deserves the worlds greatest swordsman title not mihawk
@@user-yc9vv9xb8s damn I’d say hot take but alot ppl think Mihawk a fraud. I can’t agree with you but we all are most definitely titled to our opinions
great vid but some criticism: 1: if sanji was on the roof he would straight up die. 2: king solos sanji no diff
no lol, if killer can manage on the rooftop then so can sanji, he is defs stronger then killer. Sanji would at least make king go high difficult battle, possibly losing.
you should never make a powerscaling video again.
Thinking that Sanji would beat Mr. 1 in Alabasta
Kaku in Enies Loby, you forgot to mention that Kaku ate a zoan devil fruit after that powerscaling
Pica in Dressrosa is just delusional
And Sanji is not doing half of the things Zoro did, does not an attack that can damage Kaido, does not have the cutting flames techinique to deal with prometeus.
Never said Sanji would beat mr.1.
Kaku eating a devil fruit after is actually worse for his scaling, considering ALL the cp9 agents were measured via their base forms. And since we know that jabra has more expiernece and is just a better devil fruit user this could open up an agrument for jabra> kaku at the time
Pica is terrible you didnt address anything regarding that.
Never said hed cut through prometheus, hed stall it with his speed. Zoro never defeated promethues either just stalled it via cutting through him
Your terrible, never make a power scaling comment again you baboon lol, seems like your just coping off anger without making any valid argument, doubt your middle aged brain could anyways
jabra is 2180 kaku is 2200 a regular marine is 15 with a 20 difference thats a 1 and 1/3 fodder marine deference between their base forms knowing carnivores zoans give a larger boost than regular ones and that jabra has more experience with his devil fruit its very clear jabra is stronger than kaku he even states he is stronger than kaku with his devil fruit
Kings flame attacks also wouldn't really have an effect on sanji. As they burn at a lower temperature and sanji is very resistant to fire. the same cant be said in reverse, as sanji's flame is hotter.
As for zoro vs doflamingo, he loses. He isnt strong enough to take on law and luffy like doflamingo did. And he also wasn't capable of cutting through the bird cage, which shows the difference in haki. Not to mention that wasn't even an awakened attack so doflamingo's higher end attacks would be even better. Zoro wasn't weak, but he isn't comparable to doflamingo or gear 4 at the time.
You're just wrong.
In One Piece, magma is canonically superior to fire and has been stated to be so. King specifically has magma-like flames, so his flames are hurting Sanji. This isn't an assumption. We were told what the hierarchy is.
Meanwhile you're here claiming Sanji's flames can hurt King. Based on what? When has fire ever hurt King? Your entire argument is headcannon with no facts or support backing it up.
King incinerates Sanji with his magma-like flames, and nothing in the story implies Sanji can hurt King with his.
And that's not even touching the fact that Sanji needed a NINE hit combo with Ifrit to finish off Queen who has lower durability and absolutely no shown flame resistance. So even in the headcanon scenario where Sanji can hurt King with flames, it still isn't doing much plus King can just switch to invincibility mode after the first hit.
Sanji has no out. He straight up loses.
@@Shark-hn4mvcope sanji wins and regular fire is weaker than magma this it blue flames the legit hottest you can get like how you left that part out.
Fujitora couldn't cut through the cage so now all of a sudden he is weaker than doffy? use your head
@@Shark-hn4mvmagma is hotter than regular fire not blue flames
1:57 because Mr. 2 isn't black 💀
making zoro fight luffy is objectively unfair to tie them yet having sanji hold back kaido
zoro not fighting mr 1 means he wouldn’t learn to cut steel severely weakling him
Zoro can only use acoc with Ashura also the him being equal to Luffy during Dressrosa is before Luffy used gear 4 I would say your close but itd be equal tbh.
The vivre card mentions his 320 billion bounty, which was given to him after dressrosa meaning the vivre card was made after dressrosa, meaning it was after he used gear 5
Who said zoro can only use Acoc with ashura? Zoro was even using Acoc in his unnamed attacks. U can easily see that at the start of ep 1035. He even used Acoc in bird dance. And also in the last attack in 103 mercies against king.
@@surasitlfcgg Yh gear 4**
I mean, i dont mind this video, but people tend to forget, zoro and sanji were only close in power at the start of one piece, at newer arcs like wano or egghead, zoro could literally one shot sanji
1:55 yoooooo im weak.
Tis answered the question between the two so me and my friends can stop arguing about this
If sanji faught king he surely would have used the Raid Suit the whole fight, the reason he destroyed it after resolving himself to use it before is because Queen keeps pessing him about Germa and wanting to compare science so he destroyed the suit, King would not mention Germa and so sanki would use it once the fight gets intense am sure he would be alot stronger than he was when he defeated Queen. Im sure Oda held back on raid suit Sanj's real potential because its Admiral level or Holy nights, we will see the raid suit again soon as I know a Sanji vs Kizaru final fight is inevitable in Egg Head Arc.
Killer over King is a wild take.
Probably missheard I put
Zoro>~King
And zoro>>> killer
Meaning king >killer
@@IMO3530 oh yeah I definitely misheard that
@@IMO3530zoro vs king was not an extreme diff battle 😂
i only think zoro cant beat doffy in dressrosa but the the rest is good
Nah, Sanji has no real way of harming King with his flames on, and ifrit jambe takes a lot of his stamina. King wins high diff.
Sanji is considerably weaker than zoro in the current arc Zoros rooftop feats are way better than sanji vs Saturn
how? saturn is supposedly one of the strongest characters in the verse and sanji got up after one of his attacks while zoro passed out from getting stabbed once by killer
Why is Saturn a worse feat?
We know literally nothing about Saturn let's wait before judging Sanji based on that
I still dont see Dressarosa Zoro brating Doffy
ZORO COULD NOT CUTE DOFLAMINGO STRINGS WTH 😭😭😭
fujitora couldn't, so is fujitora weaker than doffy now? use your damn brain
7:40 it was an only anime scene
That was literally in the manga. Go re-read and stop lying. It's pathetic.
3:40, I will say one thing, that statement was before Kaku ate his devil fruit, and having a Zoan makes you stronger in every physical category. So JAbra with devil fruit is about KAku without devil fruit level
Doriki measures power without devil fruits every time. Jabra's score did not include his devil fruit. Also, Kaku had just received his devil while Jabra had his for quite some time. If anything Jabra would get a better strength increase from his devil fruit than Kaku because Kaku was still figuring his out.
it measures without devil fruit plus we have a statement from jabra saying he is actually stronger than kaku with his devil fruit and we have the knowledge that carnivorous zoans give a larger stat boost than others and if a regular marine is 15 doriki they were 20 apart thats 1 and 1/3 a regular marine and a carnivorous zoan should give a boost larger than that making jabra stronger than kaku
Ikr people seem to forget he will get power boost after eating his devil fruit
Sounds like you're trying to please sanji fans
Daaaam this skipped alot of fights
Zoro cant beat doffy because
The advantage of luffy g4 compared to Zoro is that Luffy can fly with his g4 and with his awaken doffy can fly
And its why Zoro take a lot of time to beat Pica
because mr 2 isnt black 💀
So he is zoro glazer too huh. he said zoro is stronger than luffy at dressrosa then why didn't he just kill doflamingo cause he is not stronger as luffy. If he is then sanji is strong as luffy also. And he said king can defeat sanji so I'm mad cause sanji is stronger than zoro
Luffy was not fighting sanji and wouldnt do the same to zoro plus zoro wouldnt even fight but if he did he would win because luffy wasnt doing anything but have a great day 😀
Sanji is top 30, Zoro is top 15, Luffy is top 10 currently at this point in the story.
nah sanji and zoro are both top 15
can you actually name 29 characters above sanji?
@@aotisnotamasterpiece1880he 100% cant
@@aotisnotamasterpiece1880
Imu
Dragon
5 elders
3 yonkos(not counting buggy)
Fleet admiral
Mihawk
3 admirals
Kuzan
Garp
Sen goku
Ray Leigh
Ben becman(first mate of shanks)
Law
Kidd
Zoro
Lucci
Sabo
Pretty sure he comes under top 30 with all these
theyre not 30@@youtubeisabitch5758
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Wassup
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L takes on the rooftop and other parts@@IMO3530
Zoro is not beating doffy
He can still live
Sanji is shit
Zoro clears
Sanji wont win against king lol.
Bro magic kingdom space mountain is hot garbage it sucks how could you say it’s better than tron
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I don't think Sanji could beat King. King took attacks that could hurt Kaido like they were nothing. Sanji has shown nothing comparable to that. He took way more shots to defeat Queen than Big Mom. But a Big Mom who was in better condition didn't do shit to Kaido.
going off 1-1 scaling king is higher then sanji, but like i said in the video the abilities, circumstances and how they fight in character makes it unfavorable on kings behalf
Honestly I would trade Sanji for Yamato.
Most terrible take on CZcams
@@isaacmybro9570 real
Fr Sanji is a bum. Good character but not a good fighter.
@@shrewd42 right.
@@shrewd42good character is a stretch in a half. "Omg look pweety girl. Oh childhood trauma!!!" Is his entire dumbass arc
It really saddens me how many people here in the comments underestimate Sanji. He's meant to be equal to Zoro for most of the times, but the fanbase is made out of a bunch of dumbasses.