Metallica and the Missing 32nd Note- Master of Puppets Analyzed
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What is the REAL timing of Master of Puppets?
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Audacity Analysis by Steven Hudson -metalintheory.com/metallica-ma...
Steve Vai TempoMental- www.vai.com/tempo-mental/
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I have the equivalent of an elementary school student's knowledge of music theory, but I grew up listening to Metallica and I just wanted to say your use of disdainful Lars Ulrich was impeccable.
Your elementary knowledge is evident.
+Zod of Heaven He still needs it.
(they all do)
#bachpfeiffengesicht
To my knowledge MoP riff is in 13/16 time?
Lars totally looks like Trump
master of puppets was written by cliff burton so obviously the insane level of complication was intentional
Your first mistake was thinking most guitar players could read music.
thatonewhiteguy991 how do they play?
Alex Gunner either by ear, or tabs
Master Sam don't they need to read music to interpret tabs? I'm thinking about learning to play, but it all seems soo complex.
Alex Gunner Tabs are much easier than reading sheet music.
So, if you ever want to get a guitarist to stop playing, put sheet music in front of them.
I usually play by ear. When I am playing from tab, I don't need anything more than seeing the string and fret, because I know the time of each note. I don't play tab of songs I've never heard.
James admittedly didn't have an understanding of time signatures. In short, he said they'd put things in to "freak people out" or because he felt like it. When questioned about the times while working on s&m, he said he had no idea what times they were in and that he just knows that when Michael (conductor) does his "pentagram thing" thats when he comes in
he’s right tho
In an interview for S&M, when the director was telling Lars how he decoded their time signatures, he replied: "Really? we just thought would be fun to cut pieces to scare people off" :)
This sounds extremely likely. Make it so hard to decipher that Noone else can play it properly, just for fun.
Guai a te!
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@@LZen.
Somewhere between 5/8 and 6/8
5.5/8
Definitely a 5/7
perfect?
Jordan Schoepke I hear you. Sometimes I count it and 5/8 works, other times it doesn’t. If my counting is off a little, it falls apart
21/32
*5.25/8
This is THE shit. I hope you'll make more videos like this. Thank you brother! \m/
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why did you say so ?
"1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 1 and ba dum dum" that's some next level musical notation right there
A corrected 21/32 version in the program played with the original would've been awesome.
Seriously doubt Lars knew this even happened in the first place. The guy probably owns several $30,000 watches and still can't keep time.
The man can barely count to 4. Well, still better than Gabe Newell...
Hatsune Miku heard Gabe is running for president. He guaranteed there will never be World War 3!
Hahaha!
Mikko Immonen incorrect in lepper messiah he count to five
Yep. You’ve won the internet for today.
"I am become prog, the destroyer of Dream Theater"
Holy shit, my sides!
I can't get enough of this pic.
Well, I'm off to go write a song in the 21/32 time signature.
there is 27/32
Ba dum dum Ba dum dum Ba dum dum...
It's a 6/8 bar and Ulrich couldn't play it in time, so it got recorded rushed...
This is probably the most accurate explanation.
It lies well within the range of Lars' normal variations of 4/4, so no need to write 6/8. It is counted as one two three four VANTOOSRĪĪFO!
Garrett Miller You spelled "absolutely" wrong.
It's 3/4, not 6/8. Think about it. If an 8th note is getting 1 beat and you have 6 beats, it would make the measure in question LONGER than the 4/4 measures, so it's 3/4, which is virtually identical to 6/8 time.
It is not a fucking fraction. 6/8 means 6 beats in the measure and the 8th note is a 1 count. If you wrote 3/4 and wrote in 6 8th notes, it isn't the same because the timing is still on what note gets a one count. Since a quarter note is a 1 count in 3/4 transposing a measure from 6/8 would be twice as face since you have change the frame of reference. Time signature is all about what notation counts as 1 beat. In your example to play 1 measure of 6/8 you would need 2 measures of 3/4 for the timing to be preserved.
I think it would be interesting to know how Michael Kamen wrote the arrengements for MoP with San Francisco Symphony Orchestra in this "5/8" part.
Emanuel Rodríguez Pretty sure the score would have said 5/8. I've played in symphony bands before and in those traditional type settings they NEVER would analyze a peice of music like this. 1 32nd note at this speed is too minute a detail to hear. The general rule is to follow the conductor's sense of rhythm, which will be all over the place, believe you me. Tradition say its more about emotion, so he will slow down and speed up as he chooses, and sometimes you will hold a note untill the horn section is almost out of breath! When playing with other musicians you follow them, as they are usually the lead. For example, one thing symphonic and big bands most do very often is play the national anthem with a singer. So you listen to her for ques. If she wants to go up and down the scale for effect, then you time it with her. Most likely this approach was taken, and that is if anyone in the orchestra even noticed that something was off, which I doubt. Most concert musicians fake anything that is they don't get. There's even alot of articles and jokes about that on the internet too.
Absolutely! The documentary is F..... pretty cool. Michael Kamen did a very good job & arrengements in this S & M Concert.
As an orchestral player I can tell you they look at time differently. Orchestras don't play to strict time and let it flow often, more like the human voice. I've seen opera singers sing an 8th note for almost tripple its duration and no one bats an eye, this is why conductors exist.
This metallica riff "stretching" the time just a bit is foriegn in the rock world but an everyday occurance to classical musicians.
Bingo -- thats why with a symphony you have a conductor!
corrda1993 And even conductors don't get it right. Think about all the conductors you've ever had. How many of them are actually working in time? I'll be surprised if you say more than 2 or 3.
2:47 I still can't comprehend how Steve Vai managed to do that. He has to be an Alien.
For real. That shit is borderline Einstein level intelligence.
Not to undercut his achievement, but I think the simple answer is 'because he had a compulsive need to be the best and that outweighed everything else'. He appears to have chilled out a bit in later years.
Metallica had a theory nerd, he's called Cliff Burton.
Yeah, but Cliff didn´t push them to know that much, his involvment in the Master of Puppets song is minimal, he´s credited for the bits he wrotte with kirk in the clean interlude, the rest of the song is James riffs and composition with Lars. PLUS the whole Master Album barely have Cliffs contributions, one been the one previous mentioned, the intro of Damge Inc and Orion wich is most of it his song and structure.
Cliff probably said "ba dum dum" a few times
F
@@luckydominguez2654 And you know this how? Idk about you but after hearing the album for the 10000th time, Cliff is all over it. Just like how he was with the previous two.
Cliff GOAT
That picture of James got me laughing sooo much xD
I can confirm that this video tells the truth. I put the song in a DAW, adjusted the tempo to 210 BPM and that last bar is really smaller than 3/4. And the first time this bar appears the song goes out of tempo and is misaligned with the metronome.
YES! Don't take my word for it... This is precisely what I did before making the video but didn't include all the examples of the click going at different time signatures because I thought the visual analysis and audio examples would be conclusive enough.
so no click track was used when they originally recorded this? that's surprising
I saw an interview with Flemming Rasmussen who said the first song Metallica ever recorded to a click was For whom the Bell Tolls. Supposedly it was the only song on the RTL done that way.
I'm also pretty sure most of the songs on the MOP were done without a metronome as well. I've opened the drum track for Battery in my DAW once and noticed the tempo was all over the map - Lars is not known to keep perfect time :-) (eg. is there anyone who still believes that 7/8 bar just before the 3rd verse was meant to be like that?).
However, in the context of a whole song it shouldn't bother anyone. The whole Metallica career is much more significant than Lars's inability to keep time.
I mean, it's quite mindblowing that they pull most of these songs without a metronome and having such a tight sound, actually more credit goes to Lars and the rest, true craftsmanship
I've actually noticed that their timing is CRAZY. I tried to tab "Through the Never" in a way so the Guitar Pro tab would play in perfect synchronization with the studio track. Pretty sure they just play by feel because the timing jumped as much as 15+ bpm in some parts. But it also seemed on purpose, because the time changes fit within the bars and changed at parts where the song changed.
Another way to score it:
1) Convert the bar from 5/8 to 11/16
2) Add a 16th rest between the powerchord slides (tempo 212 or so).
Sounds like 5/8, but they extend the pause between slides for added effect/emphasis (that's my guess)
Finally some theory. Someone ACTUALLY explaining what's going on instead of vague descriptions. Understanding the rhythmic grid is what I teach all my students
*UNNECESSARILY CLOSER LOOK*
Bingo.
how in the hell does someone find this out wtf
They are over-analyzing, just like how The Game Theorists over-analyzes video games
??? How is it overanalyzing to notice something that's there? If you're a guitarist trying to replicate this part, you need to understand it. For years I didn't know why it was so weird to play, now here's he answer.
ZeroTJ over thinking over analyzing seperates the body from my mind
Bora Tosyalı Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Aish feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines
As soon as you said "difficult to transcribe" I realised those syllables perfectly fit the new riff that starts after the bit when the main riff moves to F#
Not quite my tempo
Haha, I just watched that Whiplash clip right before this!
James: Were you rushing or were you dragging?
Lars: I don't know...
Were you rushing or were you dragging?
Not quite my time signature
Steve Vai is a brilliant master , being able to notate anything Frank Zappa did for exceeds mastery .
hammett has been playing that bar for nearly 35 years and probably doesnt even know whats going on :) :) :) :)
He doesnt need to
Did you?
I’ve seen in a video or heard maybe on the “It’s Electric” podcast, that they didn’t try to play to any time signature for that part. James wrote the riff and Lars just filled it, the 21/32, 5/8 or even sped up 6/8 part is all sheer coincidence as they had no idea.
AWESOME video, good explanation. I’m a huge music nerd especially with Metallica so this stuff turns me on.
Interesting interpretation. I'll make this easy for you, James Hetfield wrote the song "Master of Puppets" both lyrically and the rhythm guitar (Burton's name is in the writing credits for bass lines only). James has stated in interviews that he does not know how to read music. He plays what he feels. So, when this song, and all other Metallica songs, were written there is no thought process put into the different notes or timing. James writes songs and riffs (and gets riff ideas from Kirk as well) and puts them together, usually in 4s and 8s, and Lars figures out the drumming for it. That's it. We're fortunate to have a TON of video footage of Metallica from on stage to backstage to in the studio to at home with their families. I don't know of any band who has put out as much video footage of their lives together and apart as Metallica have. So we can even see in the studio when Lars is working on the arrangements of the songs (which he does most of) he doesn't talk in terms of notes or measures either. He points to the video screen where they have Pro Tools up and says stuff like, "What really gets my dick hard is starting on bump BUMP. You know, there (pointing)." So it is interesting that you put this video together to delve deeper into the song writing process of Metallica however it is unnecessary as they write what they feel, not how it will interpret on paper. I learn how to play many Metallica songs on guitar by watching James play them on video from live recordings mostly lol.
Master of puppets
Yes, they write based on feel. This is an analysis of how to recreate that feel. I don't know why there are always a million comments like this, it's not like anyone is trying to say you can't play by feel or that you have to understand what you're doing. There is value in understanding how to do things though and videos like this provide that understanding.
who gives a shit lmfao
I think that everything you wrote is pretty obvious. This video is done mostly for fun.
And by the way, Kirk Hammet wrote part of the song.
Corey G. ...I've seen video of Cliff Burton restructuring James rhythm pieces on the computer ....and James has this bewildered look on his face. ...It is very clear that Cliff has the control of theory and timing for all these songs ...And yes Cliff is a theory nerd ...excuse my language ...Cliff use to play the cello at the Cabot College in Hayward. ...And was in the symphony for quite awhile ...!!!! And it does matter ...by the time you get to the studio for a main record company the engineer for this project will notice if it's been worked on or not ....If not the engineer will do it himself and you might have to cut him a royalty check for songwriting. ...And you don't want that !!!!!!
Well done, Sir. I finally have a reference to explain "feel" to so many people I have played with before and surely will again. This is spot on.
I am become progressive, the destroyer of dream theater
When you read the Bible, you have to know that in ancient Hebrew "I am" has exactly the same meaning as "I am Lars."
It's a reference to Dr. Robert Oppenheimer, one of the fathers of the atomic bomb, in a 1965 British documentary called "The Decision to Drop the Bomb", quoting from the Hindu scripture "Bhagavad Gita": "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds".
Special Ed calling in to a rock station to request Master of Puppets:
"Can you play the song that goes ba dum dum? YAY!"
"They don't have a history of writing complex time signatures"
Those rhythmic shifts in the post solo section in Blackened tho
(I know that he meant by 32nd notes level)
The art of guitar did a video on that
I'm gonna give it to you. This vid's been showing up on my feed for a while and I finally watched it. You got a good point here. Well played.
So I can headbang to 21/32? Please give me my metalhead crown... thankyou
Are you that guy from the Dr Pepper commercial? Quality work.
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Metallica before show
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Awesome video, this is what people need to hear! You sound like you should talk on radio, you got the voice.
Your presenting style is admirable! Well done!
Well James didn't even know what notes were on guitar even at the time of the Black Album (He knows them now). I don't think James knew too much about sheet music counting at the time either. They more than likely just played what sounded good to them while just jamming and playing whatever on the guitar. And just because the books says note for note transcriptions doesn't mean its correct, just take a look at blackened on the AJFA guitar book, its horribly wrong. The tab books aren't directly made by Metallica, they are a third party printer Metallica sponsored to interpret what is on the album, and never colluded with Metallica members for correctness.
Carlos Rincones This is sad. I won't buy it. And mostly the guitar pro tabs on UG are more than perfect.
Emanuil Valkov In the making of the black album video James himself said he told Bob Rock that he was afraid when Michael Kamen came in to help record, he would ask james to play a certain cord and he wouldnt know what to do.
Yep, even in 99 when they collaboreted with Kamen he talk them about sheet music and as the band know shit about it Jason amke a joke about "We only know chaka chaka chaka". By they way check out the chord progression on Werever i May roam and you´ll be like "WTF" cause is insane and clearly they didn´t thought about it.
That explains why their cover of Killing Joke's (brilliant) "The Wait" is SO off. Almost like they are playing it from memory. So, I guess they were. Please Lars, bring your huge ego and bow at the feet of Paul Ferguson to teach you how to play it correctly. Or just watch some Killing Joke concert videos.
"You cant see time"
Speak for yourself, mortal
These videos are really cool, keep doing more of them, very interesting stuff.
Plus, the thumbnail is great.
Thank you very much for educating the public in music theory so clearly. As a lifelong theory wonk your videos tickle me to no end. Nice to know other people notice these things. I remember spending days looking at that 5/8 measure in the official Master of Puppets book, always knowing it was wrong and ultimately failing to puzzle it out myself.
Would love to see more discussion of polyrhythms in Zappa’s music, the intentional ones, not the incidental vocal idiosyncrasies, but the composed madness.
Sometimes you just write a riff and if it sounds good who cares what the time signature is.
I dunno maybe people who find it a fun and enjoyable exercise to think critically about popular pieces of media
Benjamin Lamb I meant more in the vein of Metallica may have simply enjoyed the way the riff sounded at the time despite what its time signature may have been. I know Soundgarden wrote a few songs that we're odd time signatures not because they we're trying to write in strange time signatures but because it sounded good. I completely enjoy breaking this stuff down and analyzing it. Props to the maker of this video. My drummer and I had a laugh sharing it together. We cover this song and may have never noticed the strange timing there if it wasn't pointed out.
Ah yeah, fair points. Sounded like you were saying the video was pointless lol my bad
Benjamin Lamb Reading it back to myself i could see why you interpreted it that way. No hate here just another music lover checking out an awesome video
People who want to learn to play a song the right way.......
I love how you incorporated Vai into the bizarre notation segment. Transcribing Zappa's music was also how Zappa came to know and then hire Vai. Vai has done so much for modern music notation, he practically standardized guitar tab. And all these haters denying 21/32 need to remember it was a research source for this video. Go complain to the guy that did the analysis.
Highly enlightening! I started out skeptical...finished blown away! Thank you.
Thank you for posting this. As someone who has been practicing and playing this song on guitar for a couple of years now, I am glad to see this part broken down a bit. Though not the hardest part, that will always be the 2nd riff IMO, this part is the oddest measure of the song. And to see it explained as having an odd time signature of 21/34, sheds light on it. You just have to play it by feel and hope you're in time.
I played this on piano , guitar, drums , listened to this so many times and I never noticed this!
this is the story of how a danish tennis novice trolled every guitarist in the world.
I really like how no-nonsense this video is and it talks about a real thing that musicians do and WHY they do it without getting too bogged down in mathematical justifications.
When I ask my band if there is an eight rest, they say no it's chugga-chu----chugga-chugga.
So 5/8 + 1/32
daniel muñoz precisely
21/32's and make sure that cabinet is hanged straight...
Us carpenteurs just call that a heavy 5/8 or a light 11/16. And the bubble's in the lines. Kinda.
Can't it be interpreted (for theory purposes) as a change in tempo rather than time signature? i.e. a very short slowing down of the rhythm for basically just one note?
great analysis, this explains why some of the songs that the band play still sound so unique,
Thumbs up for profound, and well-used, musical geekiness integrated with Lars imagery and Hetfield memery. Well done!!
very cool. To me it just goes to show how in sync these guys were/are and reinforces why Metallica is such fulfilling music.
This was awesome dude. Let me know if you're down to collab \m/
Become The Knight This was an excellent offer
Wait a minute aren’t you the guy who loves Nirvana?
fake become the knight
@@siscothemaniac621 lol
@@siscothemaniac621 100% NOT fake ;)
DUde I dont know who you are or why do I have this vid in recommended, but it's genius! I want more of this tsuff!
This is amAzing. I enjoy your enthusiasm for the topic!
i have used midi drums to replicate a few metallica songs note for note and matching exact tempo.. to accomplish this i had to be flexible with bpm between verse and chorus.. usually close to a 10 bpm transition between the 2
still trying to decide if lars has a bad internal metronome or if its intentional.. examples like this video makes me think its intentional
1:58 when he pretty much destroys Lars
This was funny. And the tie up at the end was great. Nobody wants to say 'ba dum dum' Really cool cool video. Thanks
Great video man I always felt there was something strange about that part and I always just played it by feel and listened to the drums for guidance.
Wow it's like you're on 1.25 speed.
But I love it.
When Metal evolved into Jazz
Very interesting!!! Please make more vids like this!!
Master of puppets was recorded without the use of a click track. But the second half of your video was awesome. You explained it the best way possible.
Cliff Burton was the music theorist and transcriber.
@signalmusicvideo but how do they record this on time by the metronome since they didn't know that was 21/32?
Great video!! I've often thought about this, being a musician myself, and though it was odd. Music is a language itself.
love your content man...keep rocking!!
I didn't know shazam can play guitar.... o_O wow
do one of these for a Dillinger Escape Plan song
They have nothing on Lars.
Dude, you are so fuckin smart! Thanks for sharing the knowledge and yet another badass kickass vid!!!
Amazing video, excellent research.
They had some crazy time signatures on Justice but I doubt most were intentional
Theodore G. Wallace In nearly every song they've ever written (with, maybe ten exceptions), they have a "half measure", where one measure is half as long as the rest.
Then, there are the infamous 7/8 measures in "Hit the Lights".
Jason Newsted commented on this in an interview about how many time signatures they had. It sounded pretty intentional
kingcharlie4 Nice profile picture man!
Nino I was gonna say the same thing. The 2nd law kicks ass
Nino thanks
slightly amusing that you are talking about such subtle nuisances and the subtle effect they have, yet you film the whole video out of focus.....
This is one of my favorite theory explanations. The balance. I will tell others about you. 😀🤘🏼
Really great Channel duuuuude!
Dude it's just 6/8, but since Lars is not capable of playing in tempo it doesnt sound like it
Disagree. The hits are actually tight. Whatever, sure Lars is not the most technical drummer, but every hit is solid. Bands do this kind of thing all the time, playing things straight is boring.
nicolhaidi Repetition legitimises.
James records the guitar parts first, without a metronome - Lars is following James, not the inverse.
"Set of simple symbols" is hard to say
Thanks for breaking it down. This video is great!
The timing of Master of Puppets is timeless or beyond time! Hehehe!
Yet, 21/30 is a very interesting revelation that demonstrates the richness of such masterpiece this song is. Total thumbs up!
My favorite Metal Song is Phantom Of The Opera by Iron Maiden
Masterpiece of Metal!
The amount of theory bashers in this comment section is astounding.
None of them can read a lick and they don't have any form of metre, so they are ignorant as to how far out of time they play everything.
Exactly, theory is theoretical, like trying to prove I could nail the hot chick in my fave porn but you'd have to prove that A: I watch porn & B:who my fave porn star is.
If you tap you finger or foot thru these sections it stays in time with the tapping so how can that be some oddball time signature?
Fantastic explanation! I would like also to know what applies to the Orion riff, which I always struggle with
I've been a musician all my life but frankly I can't see where this 21/32 stuff comes around? all I can hear is that the bar is slightly shorter than 3/4, maybe with a 16th or a 32nd, who cares, I'm fine. It's always been about the feel.
Actually I compose stuff like that all the time and when I'm putting it in Guitar pro I'm struggling to figure out whether I have to cut off a punctuated triplet 32nd somewhere or whatever, but I got around to it really quick all the time and then I quite frankly forget all that's been going on with this time signature stuff. It only matters that it sounds right
There are times when you realize our own compositions are in weird time signatures because it felt good while noodling/jamming, and then you realize you might have created a monster (a piece I'm toying with turns out to be alternating randomly between 7/4 and 9/4 when I'm noodling, with a sudden 3/4 drop for a part I thought was cool, and I realize it's just constant pain to lay down properly on paper -or GP7, also it never sounds like I play it, probably because there's an extra 16th here or there ar random, and I feel like I'm writing stuff for The Dillinger Escape Plan or Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza).
@@Cyclobomber yeah but I always found it pointless to indulge in the mathematical approach. Is it heavy? Does it make you headbang? That's all that matters as far as I'm concerned.
@@mysteriousDSF I'm with you on this, but when I want to lay it down so as to keep and copy in case I forget, or simply because I like having sheet music at hand for whatever reason (including sharing with buddies), I suddenly realize some or my stuff might border on needlessly complicated.
I regret nothing, but you gotta admit it's annoying when you can't get it right writing it down because your time signatures are all over the place, and if you teach the tune to someone new (like a substitute drummer or bassist) it's gonna be annoying if it all relied on feeling while composing and nothing's been ever set black on white so that we all agree.
To this day I still regret not writing down a jam tune we did with some friends about 14 years ago, it was pretty cool and we lost our only rehearsal recording, I can't recall some of the exact notes and it still bugs me.
It seems obvious that that verse riff can be divided into two sections, one in 8/8 and the other in 7/8. If counted this way, it makes a lot more sense. Also, it fits with general musical progression the band was going through at the time.
mike dillaha Huh? 7? You are like the fourth guy to say this in the comment section. I've been playing this song for 20 years and Iv'e always noticed that it's way shorter than that. When the video said that some people interpret it that way, I was like, Wtf?
to me this has always been 7/8. Makes just perfect sense, except you are right that it's a little short - but that is just lars urlich's habit to rush at certain points. Pretty sure they didn't record master of puppets with a click track.
Darth Diabetus You'll fall behind in relation to what? The early Metallica albums weren't even recorded to a metronome.
Any notation and tempo you transcribe it to will always be an approximation and will never be a 100% perfect match, not even a time signature like 21/32.
So any approximation that will allow you to learn and play the song is good enough.
Darth Diabetus it also sounds rushed because Lars deviates from the beat at the end of the 7/8 measure with the two snare hits starting an 8th note after the third bass drum beat in the measure. I don't know if it was intentional but it certainly gives it a rushed feel.
Hi. Drummer here. You are totally right. It's always obviously been 7/8 to me.
Dude, you have a way with words. Great explanation, and I'd say it's pretty accurate, assumptions and all.
Love your voice... very soothing. I mostly listen because of your voice and not so much your nerdy "unnecessary closer looks" into the theory behind iconic songs lol
"We can instantly perform a complicated sequence syncronized perfectly, without ever having comunicated before"
Two things, the transfer of such simbols is communication, and I've never seem two people perform "perfectly" a piece of music with no group practice.
ba dum dum sounds technical enough
I don't know nearly enough about music theory to understand this but I sure do enjoy watching it.
nice job! I kinda wish you would have shown the steps to get the right stop between 5/8 and 6/8, like 11/16 which is almost right and ending on 21/32....or am i not getting that right?
I saw Dream Theatre, and clicked.
You sound/look like Kurt Loder
Loved the video!
Please explain that part of Orion that's not in 4/4. I still can't figure it out
Why is everyone getting really pissed in the comments?
Many people think that life becomes better if you spend most of it arguing about metal.
This is the problem with music theorists...composition and theory have little in common. Theory tries to explain what happened NOT what to do in the moment. And no, there are no rules in music. As Arnold Scoenberg said in his treatise "Theory of Harmony" there are only guidelines.
But if you analyze the music of Metallica, something like this (a missing 32 note) does really stand out. I think that was the point of this video. And most of their music is pretty straightforward harmonically and rhythmically anyways for someone with basic music theory knowledge. All this 'you don't need to follow the rules' hardly applies to the music of Metallica, because they are definitely an example of a band following music theory (like 99.9% of all music), even though they might not even realize it.
I guess what I mean is that most people who claim that they don't know any music theory are simply wrong. Music theory is not just the ability to read sheet music. Many people know how to play chords, sing over those chords while keeping time and play all kinds of scales and modes. Most people have a sense knowing what sounds 'good' and what sounds 'off'. If you can do that, you already know a lot of music theory.
Very strict guidelines or else 99% of people say you got noise.
21/32??!! Wowww, din't see that coming! Have been listening to and playing this song for years! Great video \m/
You've got a great voice. And did I see Eric wareheim there at the end for a second? Haha