Vikings and Last Kingdom Costuming: is it Good, Actually?

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  • čas přidán 28. 03. 2022
  • Ok, you've heard me and the rest of HistoryTube ragging mercilessly on Vikings, The Last Kingdom, and many, many other historical dramas. I've made Ragnar Lothbrok, Lgertha, Edward the Confessor, and Uhtred of Bebbanburg cry with my pointy, pointy Welsh words, and I'm sorry. Ish.
    But fair's fair! And people have asked me to speak about the good bits of these shows, so here are some of the best little details in some of these shows that really shine if you pause them, take a HD screenshot, enlarge it, and really, really squint pretty hard at the screen.
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Komentáře • 330

  • @mountainmolly2726
    @mountainmolly2726 Před 2 lety +255

    One thing that was pointed out by a historian that I follow, is that in the first season of The Last Kingdom, they actually used an Eastern European breed of curly coated pig to represent the pigs that would have been found in medieval England that are now extinct. It boggles my mind that someone went to the trouble of making sure the pigs were correct but the costumes, weapons and sets seem to be designed by people whose idea of historical accuracy is a dinner show at Medieval Times.

    • @helenahsson1697
      @helenahsson1697 Před 2 lety +43

      Yes sometimes it's obvious that it's different people responsible to source things. I always notice animals because that's what I know most about. Poor people using horses to plough in early medieval times for example. I'm like, just google when the horsedrawn plough was invented... Poor people used hoes for a long time even after it was invented because they couldn't afford an ox, and definately not a horse.
      Or roads, gravel roads with a strip of grass in the middle, that's where the horse or ox is supposed to go, it shouldn't be grass there.

    • @thespaceshuttlechallenger7882
      @thespaceshuttlechallenger7882 Před 2 lety +5

      Most of these shows don't actually have historical consultants at all, and don't plan or budget for historical accuracy, so it really just comes down to serendipity if the various parts of your crew are going to have the knowledge and resources to portray history well. So, for example, they call up their animal guy say "pigs for a medieval show" and the animal guy just happens to have these great hairy pigs that they'd sourced for an earlier, higher-budget production... and then they call up their costume guy and he's, like, a fashion design dropout who wouldn't know what to make even if he had the skills and resources to make it--but as it is they gave him $5,000 and asked for 200 costumes, so he really can't do anything BUT rivet together a bunch of pleather scraps.

    • @MrSinclairn
      @MrSinclairn Před 2 lety

      What not that 1st Season filmed in Prague?

    • @georgeeast1
      @georgeeast1 Před 2 lety

      @@MrSinclairn outside Budapest.

    • @KSMephisto
      @KSMephisto Před 2 lety +12

      @Helena Hsson On that particular front, it may be a matter of sourcing. I remember watching the Tudor Farm documentary and they mentioned the oxen they use are the ONLY trained pair of oxen in Britian. AND they came out of retirement to film that show.
      I'm not sure in other parts of Europe but that might be the cause.

  • @bottleblonde8170
    @bottleblonde8170 Před 2 lety +213

    Rollo was wearing invisible armor. Better known as plot armor.

    • @bast713
      @bast713 Před 2 lety +21

      😂 Let's be honest. Rollo's costume was showing off that Clive Standen spends time at the gym and is athletic.

    • @bottleblonde8170
      @bottleblonde8170 Před 2 lety +14

      @@bast713 what's funny is that he has some background in medieval combat and is a "history nut" and did a lot of research on the real Rollo, but they basically did little to nothing with that

    • @NathalieO
      @NathalieO Před 2 lety +1

      I laughed too hard!!!

    • @k.m.223
      @k.m.223 Před 2 lety +1

      His battle strategy is to dazzle his opponents with his exposed nips.

    • @juliadove1006
      @juliadove1006 Před 2 lety +5

      To be honest Rollo’s total lack of armour could just about be put down to him supposedly being a bursurker, who were supposed to have fought ‘naked’. The producers decided in their wisdom, that that meant shirt off! Now, as a lustfull one cougar, that worked for me, and a great many other female viewers who were obliged to watch along with their chaps, though I well know that ‘naked’ could have been stark naked, though I rather doubt it. Naked was So I have been taught meant without armour or shield. Not so good for the ratings! To be fair th all the actors they have bills to play, and no actor turned down a good, long lasting role. They look to the best, and work hard to become enthusiastic about anything that they can.

  • @chrisball3778
    @chrisball3778 Před 2 lety +210

    So, basically the weapons and jewellery in these shows are a little bit better than the costumes because more of the audience will have seen some examples in a museum. And occasionally a reenactor sneaks onto their sets and wears something that isn't made out of recycled biker jackets. Everybody who loves history loves feeling smug about recognising bad history- it's an integral part of the experience of learning!

    • @sarar4901
      @sarar4901 Před 2 lety +22

      I suspect that the costumers are also under more pressure to make the actors look sexy to a modern eye, and then the weapons and jewelery are used to suggest "LOOK, THEY'RE VIKINGS! REALLY!"
      On some level the belief seems to be that modern audiences can't empathize with people wearing clothes that don't suit the modern vibes, especially if the hair is a style that we wouldn't choose. I would guess that the swords are under less scrutiny. Or maybe I am talking out my ear here, who knows.

  • @SnappyDragon
    @SnappyDragon Před 2 lety +114

    Can confirm, we love bad historical dramas! (and not just to mock them, sometimes it's nice to have sewing background noise that's vaguely of the right aesthetic even if accuracy isn't its strength . . . )

    • @LilyoftheValeyrising
      @LilyoftheValeyrising Před 2 lety +3

      Yes! I agree!

    • @kieralavode57
      @kieralavode57 Před 2 lety +8

      I'm delighted to know that's not just me with the vaguely appropriate sewing background noise!

    • @moongem4489
      @moongem4489 Před 2 lety +1

      This is the exact reason I sat through all of Reign.

    • @missvidabom
      @missvidabom Před rokem +1

      Same! I love turning shows into radio dramas for sewing.

    • @courtneywalsh9780
      @courtneywalsh9780 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Sewing background noise that looks okay in your peripheral 😂😂

  • @KarelPKerezman
    @KarelPKerezman Před 2 lety +52

    "Fine, you want nit-picking? HERE YOU GO." I'm put in mind of the MST3K "Hamlet." "Oh, you want Hamlet? Fine. Oh, BOY are you getting Hamlet. Starchy, pork-filled, German Hamlet. Enjoy! Or don't!" This was, as always, a delight!

  • @73North265
    @73North265 Před 2 lety +39

    My masters thesis could literally be described as nit picking. The sediment I analysed from the Greenlandic Norse settlements was full of Pediculus humanus (the nit or crab louse depending on which part of the body it infests). I now no longer consider any show with Vikings in it as completely historically accurate if the characters don't spend half their screen time scratching vigorously.

    • @laurahill9643
      @laurahill9643 Před 2 lety +4

      I love this so much!!!!

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 Před 2 lety +6

      Oh my gosh... 😂 After doing several hours of your research, did you get the psychological response I get when seeing ants in action, i.e. feeling like your skin is crawling in sympathy?? 😆

    • @73North265
      @73North265 Před 2 lety +8

      @@anna_in_aotearoa3166 Definitely! Parasitology lectures were the worst - people would be squirming in their seat within 5 minutes!

  • @Alex-Sews
    @Alex-Sews Před 2 lety +227

    Yelling at awful "historical clothing" is half the fun of terribad "historical dramas." Things like, "That's totally polyester" and "what the f*ck is that supposed to be?" and "why can I see 20 zippers in this scene alone?" are excellent to shout at the TV.

    • @gozer87
      @gozer87 Před 2 lety +8

      It's practically a requirement.

    • @sillyjellyfish2421
      @sillyjellyfish2421 Před 2 lety +7

      Don't forget about watch tan on wrist and modern belt with obviously spray painted "historic" buckle

    • @Sally4th_
      @Sally4th_ Před 2 lety +14

      Lol, I do the same with the "science" in disaster movies and science fiction. It's a guilty pleasure :D

    • @snazzypazzy
      @snazzypazzy Před 2 lety +6

      @@Sally4th_ I always have fun laughing at bad medicine and hollywood doctors wearing their stethoscopes backwards. (And then have the patient talk while they are listening to their heart and responding. Which is impossible because a through a correctly positioned stethoscope a patient talking is uncomfortably loud and there's a zero percent chance of you still hearing the heartbeat over that.)

    • @sonipitts
      @sonipitts Před 2 lety +10

      Drink every time someone is wearing a corset against the skin. Drink again for every tight-lacing scene. And double shots all around if someone complains about corsets being a painful tool of the patriarchy to keep women down. 🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃☠

  • @Sabsemade
    @Sabsemade Před 2 lety +28

    LOL, I love how you found positive things to say while still actually making sure that everybody understands that most of the things are really wrong

  • @viktorsilva4017
    @viktorsilva4017 Před 2 lety +62

    People thought you were nitpicking ? You could choose any *frame* from the shows and it would be hard to find something accurate

  • @neomedieval.
    @neomedieval. Před 2 lety +69

    Your channel has made me reevaluate how I dress for the Ren Faire (I live Texas and we have more Faires than re-enactments) and I get to debut my new outfit this weekend! Not entirely accurate to early medieval but it’s hard when it’s 80F out
    Anyway just saying thank you to your enthusiasm and inspiration! I am having more fun trying to put together accurate outfits than I ever did putting together a fantasy look :)

    • @ah5721
      @ah5721 Před 2 lety +3

      linen makes it tolerable in 80+ degrees that's why people wore it for centuries before the cotton gin was created. its easy to grow and lasts longer

    • @neomedieval.
      @neomedieval. Před 2 lety

      @@ah5721 yea I ended up with a lot of linen and barely any wool :)

  • @KSMephisto
    @KSMephisto Před 2 lety +7

    IIRC, Norsemen used actual reenactors for extras. So that Drum Man is probably definitely wearing turn shoes.

  • @CollinMcLean
    @CollinMcLean Před 2 lety +9

    So Lagertha's tortoise brooches looked fairly familiar to me and so I looked it up and those actually are based off of a real archaeological find. Specifically a type 5 tortoise brooch that was found in Ribe, Denmark.

  • @lordofuzkulak8308
    @lordofuzkulak8308 Před 2 lety +23

    “…if I was put in charge of a Reenactment, which would be a miiiiistaaaaake!” - now I kinda want to see your Patreons club together to fund a reenactment event just to put you in charge of it. 😝

  • @CleverNameTBD
    @CleverNameTBD Před 2 lety +19

    Even my relatives in Scandinavia saw the navigational tools like the sun stones in Vikings and threw their hands up bc it wasn't even the right group using them lol

  • @robyngrieve9665
    @robyngrieve9665 Před 2 lety +14

    These days I've started checking out the extras to see if I can spot the re-enactors 🐨🇦🇺

  • @phoenixkingtheo
    @phoenixkingtheo Před 2 lety +30

    Another content creator was talking about how AC Valhalla (And basically all modern viking era shows) are being made with how the general public thinks the viking age looked like. It's a shame cause the accurate/actual good stuff you pointed out is really cool and I think would make a good show anyway.

  • @bast713
    @bast713 Před 2 lety +29

    I'm loving the amount of sass in this video 😂
    I enjoy Vikings, with the understanding that it's a fantasy show loosely inspired by history. I appreciate when you talk about either the positives or the problems, because it's always educational.

  • @Skooby59
    @Skooby59 Před 2 lety +38

    I appreciate that you arent just hating on shows like this. Totally get that they are “vaguely inspired by” rather than “totally based on”. Curious what you’d say is the most historically accurate show or movie involving vikings

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  Před 2 lety +29

      The 1958 Vikings starring Kirk Douglas, probably!

    • @Skooby59
      @Skooby59 Před 2 lety +3

      I’ll check it out. Many thanks!

    • @LilyoftheValeyrising
      @LilyoftheValeyrising Před 2 lety +4

      @@TheWelshViking Really? I watched the trailer for that film. It looked cheesy and I was thinking it was Hollywood fluff! I can’t wait to watch it now! Thanks

    • @azteclady
      @azteclady Před 2 lety +10

      @@TheWelshViking 1958 Vikings: I'll never get over the fact that they repoduced the drakkar so faithfully that the taller actors couldn't sit, let alone row properly, so they had to fill in every other oar hole and remove alternating benches for them to sit on.

    • @oldoneeye7516
      @oldoneeye7516 Před 2 lety +6

      @@LilyoftheValeyrising he took that movie apart in one of his earlier videos. I can only think it was meant as a joke. Helmets and armour in this movie are not even good from a fantasy perspective imho (except of people wearing some kind of fake chain under their vests), but maybe some other stuff is decent? I´d have to watch it again to really say, though.

  • @p0etrygh0st
    @p0etrygh0st Před 2 lety +24

    Aww Jimmy honestly you always highlight this stuff as well as pointing out the faults. Bless you

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Před 2 lety +8

    Posting a video at half past midnight? Get to bed, young man.
    Thank you for being so positive.

  • @christineherrmann205
    @christineherrmann205 Před 2 lety +5

    I lost it at "condom hat." Crying.😂🤣

  • @LilyoftheValeyrising
    @LilyoftheValeyrising Před 2 lety +13

    That sword of kings reminds me of the Ulfberht sword. There’s a guy in the American Midwest who made one. Something like he beat it for 12 hours straight - it was a while since I saw the documentary.
    I made my husband a copy of Uhtred’s shield from the Last kingdom. I read in a historical book somewhere they can be up to 1” thick and 32” across so I made it out of some 1x6 wood planks I had laying around, a boss I bought off Amazon, some rawhide dog bones, and some craft paint. I had to use screws which I will replace later with something more authentic.

  • @gabbytriestomakethings
    @gabbytriestomakethings Před 2 lety +5

    I remember one time I was getting fitting for an Elizabethan costume when I was a backup for something, and it was incredibly hard to get on because they had basically tried to stick the under layer, corset and main dress into a single garment, and the wardrobe person dressing me was like wow I have no idea how they did this every day this is so hard to get on and I was like….they didn’t. Then I proceeded to spend the rest of the 40 minute fitting describing how all those pieces would be separate and much easier to get on and also how you would definitely want all those layers during the mini ice age of the Elizabethan era. Long story short, I seem to be discovering that on any one project there seems to be only one person who knows the actual historical costuming and they try to get as much historical stuff in there but are just held back by masses of other people who seem to have no idea.

    • @aureyd2515
      @aureyd2515 Před 2 lety +2

      And, the budget...I'm sure they don't get unlimited funding for the wardrobe department.

  • @saraseydak3696
    @saraseydak3696 Před 2 lety +3

    In a screen shot with 8 actors, «there 2 things rigth in this shot». LMAO!

  • @ovrair6340
    @ovrair6340 Před 2 lety +18

    I heard someone once suggest goldpanning as a name for positive nitpicking, cause nitpicking seems quite negative, and I think it's quite a good name.
    Also I don't understand how these shows can be so historically inaccurate that it's a challenge to find accuracies lol

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma Před 2 lety +1

      I like the term goldpanning for it! Let's make it a thing.

  • @canucknancy4257
    @canucknancy4257 Před 2 lety +7

    Digging through to find jewels amongst the rocks to bring a positive note is wonderful of you. You find the best there is but deliver it with your signature irreverent sense of humour. Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Take care.

  • @scruffy7760
    @scruffy7760 Před 2 lety +8

    I mean, as a swede, I loathe Vikings and The Last Kingdom. But damn it... The arrival of the Great Heathen Army in Vikings, and Ivar challenging the Saxons in the middle of York... They manage in brief moments capture the essence of the Norse threat to christendom, the essence of mythological heroes, that makes you wanna watch maybe one more episode incase they manage to do it one more time. Off course, that means hours of agony and yelling at the TV... But then it happens again, a brief scene that gives you hope... And then it all comes crashing down again

  • @sekhmetsaes
    @sekhmetsaes Před 2 lety +4

    "Which would be a MISTAAAAAAAKE!" Oh, same, love, same.

  • @DderwenWyllt
    @DderwenWyllt Před 2 lety +30

    Even when you're pointing out the positives, the sassiness in which you deliver the compliments is hilarious.
    I'm also surprised that the show where the gods literally exist and affect the world is the most accurate.
    Dysgais i rywbeth newydd, doeddwn i ddim yn gwybod y ffaith amdano'r "fuller", diolch am y fideo a'r addysg.

  • @MrHughtube99
    @MrHughtube99 Před 2 lety +6

    My word is that a Heron Armoury sword?! Jimmy knows where to purchase his blades!!

  • @intrinsicfactor5425
    @intrinsicfactor5425 Před 2 lety +11

    I played an extra (FBI Agent) in TV shows like the X-Files here in Vancouver, Canada. It took me over 10 years whereby I could just simply sit down and watch any other show without nitpicking it to death once being on the inside. For the layperson, the Viking sagas are good enough and get the job done.

    • @lenabreijer1311
      @lenabreijer1311 Před 2 lety +4

      Lol my daughter was extras in many things and did film school, watching with her destroys all illusions. Between me and costumes and her and film knowledge we are constantly told to keep quiet.

    • @Bildgesmythe
      @Bildgesmythe Před 2 lety +2

      As a layperson, no! No they are not!

  • @cuttwice3905
    @cuttwice3905 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice to see somebody nålebinding.
    The blue tunic(?) you said looked odd would be horribly difficult to weave on a warp weighted loom and be nigh on impossible to prevent from snagging on anything that was small and brushed against a sleeve. It would make an excellent winter blanket or, if linen, a towel. Period towels were plain weave so there goes that theory.

  • @darthbee18
    @darthbee18 Před 2 lety +4

    Some viewers: Why are you nitpicking AAAAAAAA
    Jimmy: IS THAT A FUCKING CHALLENGE
    And here comes the video 😅😂😏

  • @melissamybubbles6139
    @melissamybubbles6139 Před 2 lety +3

    The thing that makes me sad, is that workers at leather warehouses aren't always told what kind of movie they are selecting leather for. They are usually just told the project type (if told at all), animal type, grade, and color. Sometimes they are given input in color selection. They can also pick the same list color from different companies or different dye batches from the same company, which come out differently from the dye process. If the warehouse selectors know that they are selecting for a movie, they may not know what sort of movie they're selecting for. If workers knew that they were selecting leather for a medieval movie, they could pick more accurate pieces. They could also potentially special order or trade with another warehouse something better suited to the movie.

  • @crystallinecrow3365
    @crystallinecrow3365 Před 2 lety +8

    not a minute in before i'm clutching my heart and cackling. you are such an entire blessing, Jimmie

  • @JamesBuckel
    @JamesBuckel Před 2 lety +3

    I hate when people complaing about someone "nitpicking"... that's the point of the video. If you didn't want to see your favorite series get nitpicked, then why watch the video in the first place... Like YES JAN WE'RE NITPICKING, THATS THE FUN, THATS THE POINT

  • @elizabethclaiborne6461
    @elizabethclaiborne6461 Před 2 lety +3

    All the garnets on the sword furniture are a Northern German thing that shows up in Britain (England?) with the Saxons, can’t remember if it’s trade or migration. But they’re fancy wear for the very rich, not what you take to war. So, actual thing, but not Viking. Over there, from elsewhere. The garnets are from Eastern Europe.
    Sorry, my books on this were eaten by Hurricane Katrina but in a world of few gems like Europe garnets were a gold plated Maserati.

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  Před 2 lety +5

      And they absolutely 1000% look nothing like this!
      Sucks about your books, I'm so sorry to hear that :(

  • @AmAppleton
    @AmAppleton Před 2 lety +2

    The apron dress reminds me of some dungaree dresses I've seen, both the closures and the overall style.

  • @angelkeith4767
    @angelkeith4767 Před 2 lety +5

    I have to admit that I have only seen one episode of each of these shows. Last Kingdom and Vikings were just too violent for the emotional place I’d fallen into at the time. Norsemen had me laughing until I had an asthma attack and ended up in the ER.

    • @m.maclellan7147
      @m.maclellan7147 Před 2 lety

      Dang. Hope you're better now ? Tape an inhaler to your remote ! ;)

  • @wendynordstrom3487
    @wendynordstrom3487 Před 2 lety +1

    You're such a joy to watch, Jimmy! You make me giggle with your antics. 😂😂

  • @davidcheater4239
    @davidcheater4239 Před 2 lety +3

    Shady nitpicking is what I LOVE about your videos.

  • @jackiejames4551
    @jackiejames4551 Před 2 lety +2

    I always enjoy your videos Jimmy. Thank you for doing this.

  • @cheerful_something_something

    I'm glad you had fun with this :)

  • @Aswaguespack
    @Aswaguespack Před 2 lety +3

    You hit it out of the park on this presentation Jimmy! Outstanding. I enjoyed your analysis of these shows. Bravo

  • @hotspurre
    @hotspurre Před 2 lety +4

    Wait... does that sword from "Vikings" say "Sword of Kings" in *runeglish?*

  • @TheSaneHatter
    @TheSaneHatter Před 2 lety +24

    If those iron-looking spears from "Vikings" aren't actually iron, then are they merely . . . . . .
    . . . . . . "IRON-IC"!? 😎

  • @lauraclarke7197
    @lauraclarke7197 Před 2 lety +2

    Haha, loving this video Jimmy (had to comment before even finishing). You're being easier on them than I thought you'd be, and after your comments on the apron dress costume I feel TONS better about my viking inspired larp kit that I'm making. It doesnt need to be historically accurate for my purposes but I already feel like I'm doing a better job than the costume designers 😂

  • @cork..
    @cork.. Před 2 lety +1

    "Which would be a mistAAAAAKE"
    Oh Jimmy I love you

  • @msoneill358
    @msoneill358 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm going to remember Jimmy's words of wisdom next time I have to sit through one of my children's school concerts. "God loves a tryer" lol great video Jimmy, 🍻 Slàinte Mhath

  • @Imnoexpert69420
    @Imnoexpert69420 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Jimmy, amusing and informative as always

  • @HrafnirKrumr
    @HrafnirKrumr Před 2 lety +2

    I will try this approach in future. Maybe it will make me look like a nicer person to my wife and friends.
    Thank you Jimmy!

  • @frantz0557
    @frantz0557 Před 2 lety +1

    Loving these vids

  • @jennifercourtemanche9793
    @jennifercourtemanche9793 Před 2 lety +3

    I must say I do this with animal stuff in shows/movies - to this day the only part of the Disney Mary Poppins that drives me bat guano is the American robin in London. And one of the parts that puts Brother Bear over the top great for me is the correct bald eagle call. I think everyone has their nerd button issue with most popular media. And you can enjoy the annoyance in a way.

    • @JaylukKhan
      @JaylukKhan Před 2 lety +1

      One thing that I always notice is the prevalence of Harris hawks in everything, regardless of where the show or movie is set. I know why it's done because they're one of the few pack-hunting raptors and are thus easy to train but it does take me out of the immersion when I see one in Anglo-Saxon England.

  • @anthonyj.manttan9986
    @anthonyj.manttan9986 Před 2 lety +3

    Oi! I like the costumes on The Last Kingdom actually, purely from a costume design perspective, they give every character an instantly recognisable silhouette and colour.
    Why they couldn't do that with existing historical clothing tho is beyond me, they always get 18th century Britain right and Napoleon era stuff, why not medieval.
    I really love the Anglo-Saxons and Viking age stuff precisely because of the art and the style of the time, to see it depicted as it should be would be a joy, and every time they don't it feels like a wasted opportunity, especially when the show is quite a romp/riot and wildly successful.

  • @katesclabassi3857
    @katesclabassi3857 Před 2 lety +4

    Nitpick? You?
    Why do they think we come to your channel in the first place?

  • @RKO2284
    @RKO2284 Před 2 lety +2

    Snarky Jimmy is best Jimmy 🤣

  • @azteclady
    @azteclady Před 2 lety

    Thank you, Jimmy, this is absolutely wonderful.

  • @jirup
    @jirup Před 2 lety +1

    Jimmy saying "condom hat" had me spitting tea all over my laptop.

  • @roxannlegg750
    @roxannlegg750 Před rokem

    As an historical costumer - I totally appreciate where youre coming from. Cant stand Vikings but adore Uhtred, and Norsemen just cracks us up! Its just pure gold. My era of love is Georgian thru to 1950 (yes, broad I know). However to the great unwashed at least these shows have generated interest in history in general to younger generations. Growing up - i was rather obsessed with history, but I was very much alone in that hobby. As much as the costumes in these shows grated on me a lot a friend who had no previous history in Medieval times, or anything very historical at all, these shows has generated a genuine thirst for knowing the historical facts. Weve spend many many hours late at night on messenger chatting about whats correct and whats not, giving her historical context for events in The Last Kingdom, (she had heard of Alfred but thats about it...) whats thought to be known and whats not, and Im not an expert on medieval war items, but clothing I do know enough about to have opinions on it, and you support much of what ive thought - I realised the shows have more value than pure entertainment and maybe we shouldnt get too many sleepless nights over it because ya know...its entertainment that has a budget, at least the actors take the energy to learn to ride. Its other stuff that annoys me, eg the breed of horses does peeve me, but again...availability.

  • @ladyliberty417
    @ladyliberty417 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this Jimmy!!
    Love your expertise in these matters, I watch the shows but I’m never sure how much accuracy I’m seeing!!
    So glad you like Kirk Douglas in his prime as a Viking, ha!! 😁

  • @berkleypearl2363
    @berkleypearl2363 Před 2 lety

    You love to see the one person working costume and adornment department who’s making an effort to include a little bit of history

  • @lindsaydrewe8219
    @lindsaydrewe8219 Před 2 lety

    Love your smug mode Jimmy

  • @Angel_1394
    @Angel_1394 Před 2 lety

    I absolutely love this, I'm glad you did a what's good episode. Was definitely still a what's wrong. They did okay on weapons and jewelry. Thank you, Jimmy! I really needed this. ❤

  • @Ithirahad
    @Ithirahad Před 2 lety +2

    I think "depricktion" is more of a description of what you can DO with one of those axes.

  • @rimerdijkstra5826
    @rimerdijkstra5826 Před 2 lety +2

    Norsemen uses a lot of real live reenactor extras in backgrounds which was the best decision ever even tho it might be because of budget related issues but still...

  • @frostflaggermus
    @frostflaggermus Před 2 lety +1

    Ha!! Avaldsnes is actually fairly close to where I live; I've been around there several times ^^
    Unfortunately I cannot enter the buildings unless I've already paid and gotten a ticket. Which, I mean, FAIR. My family just tends to be forgetful about this one particular thing, so as a result I've mostly only wandered the outside grounds, every time we decided to go to this village, usually kind of spontaneously. It's still really cool, though! They host an annual viking festival there.
    There's also a regular non-living viking museum right nearby. I definitely remember being there with my school once.
    And, recently they have also been excavating a find of a whole building nearby, right next to the really old stone church... it's thought to be the remnants of the house of Harald Hårfagre, possibly?
    I haven't looked too much into it yet, but that's what I've heard.

  • @mistymullett1959
    @mistymullett1959 Před 6 měsíci

    I appreciate your undiluted information regardless of whether it is to point out the positive or negative aspects. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and opinions.

  • @ChristheRedcoat
    @ChristheRedcoat Před 2 lety +8

    4:40 don’t you mean bLoOd gRoOvE?
    Also, you know what would make the costumes in all of these shows about 5% better? More winnegas.

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  Před 2 lety +6

      Blœd gröove!
      Ooh, yes! The sexiest of garments

  • @tinnagigja3723
    @tinnagigja3723 Před 2 lety +1

    "Dear Mario that's what I'm a minor" - Excellent work on those subtitles, CZcams!

  • @robintheparttimesewer6798

    I haven’t seen any of these shows but enjoyed your videos about them. I’m a good year or ten behind on tv shows and movies!

  • @mortennilsenhines435
    @mortennilsenhines435 Před rokem +1

    The guy in norsemen holding the drum is indeed a reenactor from the local group i'm in 😁

  • @racheldear
    @racheldear Před 2 lety

    Great video!

  • @dianeteeter6650
    @dianeteeter6650 Před 2 lety

    You do you. Thanks for all your work

  • @Makapolu
    @Makapolu Před 2 lety +9

    Since nits are lice eggs, this actually brings up a question. How did they deal with lice and other parasites?

    • @TheWelshViking
      @TheWelshViking  Před 2 lety +20

      Combs! We have hundreds of finds of them!

    • @Makapolu
      @Makapolu Před 2 lety

      @@TheWelshViking Thanks. I'll look them up.

    • @Bildgesmythe
      @Bildgesmythe Před 2 lety +6

      Combs and nitpicking friends!

    • @snazzypazzy
      @snazzypazzy Před 2 lety +3

      Besides combing perhaps also plant based remedies? I do know tansy (Tanacetum vulgare) has had a long use of anti-parasitic drug, but I'm not sure if it was used in the Viking age. (It also induces abortions and in a too high dose will kill you.) The Dutch name is boerenwormkruid, meaning farmers worm herb. (You can often fund indication in the names. Plants like wormwood may have been named after the use of it keeping worms away from humans or livestock.)

    • @Makapolu
      @Makapolu Před 2 lety +1

      @@snazzypazzy Thank you.

  • @januzzell8631
    @januzzell8631 Před 2 lety

    That title page .. I laughed out loud! - That was EVERYTHING

  • @harrykouwen1426
    @harrykouwen1426 Před 2 lety +2

    Another thing that bothers me is those shiny polished steel shieldbosses. No one would keep polishin their shieldboss multiple times a day to prevent it from rust in a country that is known for moist, and rust. Painting the shieldboss would have been normal. A sword is polished, a bit of oil or wax or pigfat would have kept it from rusting.

  • @Dunkelzeitgeist
    @Dunkelzeitgeist Před 2 lety

    Wait have I been gone a while or have you had a haircut? Never the less, outstanding production and video as always Jimmy!

  • @JacksonTutchenerEllis
    @JacksonTutchenerEllis Před 2 lety

    I love your sword. I see that it's a heron, I have a heron too. The greatest reenactment swords out there in my opinion. Great Video as always! 👍

  • @blktauna
    @blktauna Před 2 lety +2

    Did the Crafty Celts do the brooch? They seem to have done a lot of the film work.

  • @Vyk1345
    @Vyk1345 Před 2 lety

    Glad you enjoyed doing this one. Sorry if you felt that I was "nitpicking" you personally. It was really more about the fact that I've never seen anyone do this. Love you videos.

  • @tammievawter9477
    @tammievawter9477 Před 2 lety +2

    Norsemen is hysterical...and the women's costumes weren't horrible from my viewpoint. You do your SMUG< you are aloud! Have a great day! I watch Medical shows and scream into my hand quite often! and point and laugh.

  • @alphonsusseketa6679
    @alphonsusseketa6679 Před 2 lety

    Pay no attention of negative people. Your knowledge of the history of the Vikings their clothings, weaponry food and countries where they are from. And we people from other countries appreciate you explaining these to us .

  • @jaykaufman9782
    @jaykaufman9782 Před 2 lety +15

    This is the first I've heard the "Norsemen" isn't getting a fourth season, but I'm not surprised. Like CZcams, they treat their creators like garbage, and in Netflix's case, this means the contracts show runners sign to get a Netflix deal defers any big payday until later seasons. In older American television networks, the big payday for a television series came after its 100th episode. CBS, NBC, ABC were fair about this; they wanted long-running, successful series. Netflix is run by douchebags. They've become notorious for canceling popular series after two or three seasons.

    • @craftyviking
      @craftyviking Před 2 lety +3

      Just a very small note, I am pretty sure Norsemen is made by NRK (Norwegian Broadcasting Company) and that Netflix just has the rights to the international one. Also, fun note, it is recorded in both english and norwegian.

    • @craftyviking
      @craftyviking Před 2 lety +2

      That said I agree with your point that netflix treat their creators badly.

    • @jaykaufman9782
      @jaykaufman9782 Před 2 lety +2

      @@craftyviking Thanks for the information. I still can't shake the feeling Netflix is to blame, an early cancellation of a popular series is so much their modus operandi to avoid paying the show's creators the bonus they deserve. If "Norsemen" films in both Norwegian and English, is Netflix partly financing "Norsemen"? Did they cut funding and leave it to NRK to finance the series alone after the third season? Tusen takk fram Minnesota! (Aeven om en svensk-amerikaner.)

    • @craftyviking
      @craftyviking Před 2 lety +2

      @@jaykaufman9782
      I don't actually know who finances it, according to the wiki it is NRK and a company called Viafilm. I don't know anything about the latter though.

  • @erikfarrell2065
    @erikfarrell2065 Před 2 lety +4

    Any recommendations for sources on archaeological typology of shield fittings specific to Vikingtid? I only ever worked on earlier shields from Germanic Iron Age, but the few I worked on had iron rims. And now I'm curious if I was working on incredible outliers for Germanic round shields in general, or if rim material preference changes through time.

  • @amychoi9482
    @amychoi9482 Před rokem

    Well Jimmy, the Welsh Viking, YOU my love are officially one of my muses

  • @cardboardbard
    @cardboardbard Před 2 lety +2

    So, what I’m hearing about Ragnar’s sword is that we should expect to see a fuller fuller?

  • @benjaminpew8473
    @benjaminpew8473 Před 6 měsíci

    "Hilt lump bumpies" - is that a new technical term? ;) Interesting video!

  • @lynn858
    @lynn858 Před 2 lety +4

    It would be lovely if productions hired on consultants, such as renactors, early on in the production so that there was time to consider their input, and have the time to use their input… Because none of the depts you’re calling out how the time/budget to do as much research and sourcing as they’d like. I’m sure the majority of them would love to have someone paid on retainer who’s spent years learning this stuff and figuring out how to create something that looks like it for less money.

    • @lynn858
      @lynn858 Před 2 lety +4

      And if we’re going to keep increasing the resolution of images… the knowledge of renactors who are creating/sourcing items that can look correct from up close, are needed more than ever.

  • @anglerfish4161
    @anglerfish4161 Před 2 lety +1

    Alternative title: Jimmy plays "Where's the reenactor?"

  • @ah5721
    @ah5721 Před 2 lety +1

    I love your nitpicking ! I learn lots !

  • @melissamybubbles6139
    @melissamybubbles6139 Před 2 lety

    It's fun to be able to get the ego boost while also showing what you know someone did or at least tried, to get right. Thanks Jimmy.

  • @kathiarledge9275
    @kathiarledge9275 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for your effort.

  • @lilykatmoon4508
    @lilykatmoon4508 Před rokem

    Another great video. I can’t help but chuckle at my ignorance when I first started watching these shows prior to my interest in historical fashion. On the one hand, I can see why they use the aesthetics they do, but on the other hand, it really doesn’t help teach historical accuracy. However, us nerds who are fascinated by this stuff will find our way to the truth. Norsemen is hilarious 😂. Blessed be Brother.

  • @MableM1985
    @MableM1985 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for mentioning Norsemen! I adore that show and also wished they would have been given a fourth season.

  • @DanielledeVreede
    @DanielledeVreede Před 2 lety +1

    Yay for someone actually doing their job!

  • @shotgunridersweden
    @shotgunridersweden Před 2 lety +1

    The costuming crew actually tangents the reenactment world quite heavily, and so do the extras. O the shoes might be the extras own proper turnshoes

  • @aldercover4240
    @aldercover4240 Před 2 lety

    I am a half member of the Avaldsnes viking group, great bunch and lovely place to visit.

  • @femkebeernaert
    @femkebeernaert Před 2 lety +2

    I don't follow these shows but watching the images I'm sure all those modern set-in sleeves would jar me right out of the storylines... The woman with the apron dress seems to wear a storebought t-shirt under her dress. Well done Jimmy on finding the ok-ish elements of the shows.

  • @juia7336
    @juia7336 Před 2 lety

    I always feel like the general poorness of these shows makes the good things really stand out! Like oh yeah most of the costumes suck, but look at that Gorgeous brooch! Really makes the highlights feel extra highlight-y. That, and also complaining is just so much *fun*!
    Thank you for the video! Great to watch, as always

  • @oldoneeye7516
    @oldoneeye7516 Před 2 lety

    Maybe i should take an example and watch these shows to criticise them and feel smug about it. Sounds like a good strategy.
    Oh well, your video was nice as always and I had some well needed laughs. See you next time.