Eachine - P-47 Razorback - 500mm RTF - Unbox, Build, Radio Setup, & Maiden Flight
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Brian, I now only buy planes based on what planes you review and the outcome of your review. That's big! Please keep up your review & build videos - they're invaluable. Your time & effort is very much appreciated. Ron
Thanks Ron. What a great review for a "reviewer" to get!!!
We're glad we can help you pick between the million and a half new choices every 5 minutes - it's crazy all the choices, and yet the ONE you want - OUT OF STOCK - LOL ;) I hope I'm just kidding...but seriously...why are our ports STILL clogged? Oh yeah complete morons in charge - That's it ;)
Mom used to say... "Son, if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all". So, no comment. 😊
I can appreciate your lack therein.
Owning all the previous eachine warbirds, I can say that it is very important to level the gyro before flying them. It makes a massive difference in your first flights. Put something under the tail so she is level and set the gyro. This procedure is explained in the manual. Also as you stated using a better radio brings it up to hobby grade flying. Great video and thanks for reviewing this. I look forward to getting one.
I will give it a try.
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Thanks! Appreciate your comment Vandamn
Love the Eachine mini warbirds, but this one seems a lot slower and not quite up to the standards the P-51, F4U Corsair, T-28 set. Those planes are a ton of fun. This seems to dolphin a lot, which is what the 750mm Volantec models do. Bigger is not always better.
If you do order any of those planes, make sure to order extra props at the same time.
@@theoztreecrasher2647 the mini 400mm warbird props are really easy to lose, and take forever to get replacements, so its a good idea to order extras
I like the slower part, but agree the 400mm series held it's own better, in my opinion.
@@snoriverrc3842 I spray painted my prop tips florescent yellow on both the front and back side. Much easier to find them now. Rough up the tips with fine sandpaper first.
@@snoriverrc3842 yea it is. but one good thing i found is that if you have the warbird series .all the props are inter changable
Takes me back to 2015 with BP reviewing umx planes in the driveway and street
LOL - UMX'es are gonna be back, FYi ;) The chips were lost, which is why they're mostly gone now ;(
Just ordered this plane!! Should be a lot of fun!!! Great video Brian! Really enjoy your video's
I hope you get the CG worked out a bit better than I did...then you'll enjoy it more than we did. Good luck!!!
Looking super scale a little beauty, good work buddy. 👍👌
It sure is! Thanks
I was hoping you would get this one to review I have had my eye on it and I trust your reviews great work
Thanks William. I've been getting mostly negative feedback about people thinking this plane is lacking, and I can't say that it's the BEST Eachine plane, but it's not terrible either. Size and slow are good, but flight controller is lacking, worse than usual.
My Eachine experience; looks cool, it flies pretty good since I trimmed it out in beginner mode👍 here goes intermediate mode..,…..SPLAT! 😳
Same. I got a Corsair and in expert mode it would just roll hard right. No amount of adjustment fixed it so it was awful to control. Like I had to have the aileron default to being a few mm up from flush to even get close but couldn't get it zeroed in. I broke it trying different things to just trim it to fly straight. Got a second one thinking it was a fluke, same thing. Not sure if it was some sort of weird cg issue or the gyro.
Oz - Sorry dude, we did two...if it's a lemon, lemons evidently come in pairs ;) Don't me to pick a fight, but we bring it like it is, and we also LOVE Eachine. We want to be fair to them too...we gain NOTHING from BAD reviews... We WANT you all to order these planes, but our credibility and our audience is more important to us, than ONE plane.... hope you can appreciate this, and sure you already "get it" ...but this plane does not "Fly as high" as the 400mm warbirds....it's still pretty good, but at this higher price point, it's going to get more scrutiny, as it should.
Jimmy & Jospeh - I had a heck of a time getting trim worked out, and even after (off camera) I pretty much had to stay in beginner mode.... THAT BEING SAID - I still think this is a cool plane, and definitely WON'T be writing off Eachine any time soon. They generally make good RTF planes...but maybe this one missed the mark a bit? Bind it to an OpenTx Transmitter, and 50% of the issues will be resolved. Eachine needs to be thinking about brushless motors if they're gonna get into the $150-200 price point. It's becoming an expectation (and I'm NOT alone).
I love these planes!!😁
I do too!
Cool plane man 👍great video too.
Thanks Carl!
Just an FYI. I received my first trash bag package delivery. It was just as you have shown on your channel. No surprises! Thanks for the heads up on products from CN!
Glad we could be of some assistance! I have been hearing some have had to add a LOT of nose weight to get this bird to fly well. Might give that a try ;)
I have a micro e flight that looks just like that aside from very minor differences but I can't keep it in the air. The wife got it for me on a bargain shelf. Bless her heart. We have pieced it back together many times.
I have two P-47 UMX'es and they were AWESOME ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC you could probably keep mine in the air. It would be cool to see ya try though.
Yes you are correct. It was the non Razorback Razorback from BG.
LOL ;)
I always went inverted to trim in the rudder. Always worked great me. :)
Inverted to trim the rudder? Not sure what you mean????
@@BrianPhillipsRC Yes, that’s how we did it. When we had 3 channel the rudder is all you had to trim other then elevator. But if we had 4 channel with ailerons we trim ailerons and elevator then we would invert it and hold down elevator and trim the rudder. And this theory was way back in the 70s. I been flying since I was 15, and I still have my first plane a Sig Kadet that was 3 channel. I never crashed it. Everybody trimmed the rudder Inverted. I learned that from the Pattern pilots. Try it, you will see what I’m taking about. Happy Flying! 😆👍
I have had this plane for a couple of weeks now and your gears are not messed up that’s how mine sounds too and it is extremely hard to fly as well .. I’m definitely disappointed because I loved there 400 series..
So I'm NOT crazy ;) Thanks Mad Man RC!!!
I've had a few "know it all's" this video suggesting all the "mistakes" I made, and I'm like - have you guys watch all of our other 1600 videos??!?!? I was only annoyed because it's a somewhat "regular" viewer acting like I have no idea what I'm talking about.
This plane has it's issues, BUUUUUUUUT - it is still very pretty, and I could make it fly PERFECTLY with about 2 hours and some spare parts from crashed planes. In fact, might be a fun project....but we just don't have time to revisit planes that don't work out well at the beginning.
Thanks for chiming in!
Hi Brian, I just got my P-47 yesterday. I noticed in your video and on Gary’s "I Just Got Here", the aircraft tends to porpoise. Since the instructions gives no CG point, I established a point 1/3 from the wing leading edge (38mm) as the CG. With the battery all the way forward, I had to add 1/2 oz of weight to the nose and it balances perfectly. I test flew it last night and I had a really good flight in about a 7 mile an hour wind. I have not tried intermediate of advanced yet due to the wind I was flying in, so you may want to rebalance your aircraft to get a better flight.
Well...MAYBE I'm Tail heavy too!?!??!! Good point John. I usually kinda write that (CG) off on these little guys, but I shouldn't :)
This doesn’t look like it’s as good as the other warbirds
This seems to be what everyone is gathering. Honestly, I was hoping for more, not that it's terrible, or even bad, but at this price point, Eachine has opened itself up for higher level of scrutiny.
Looks like a bubble top to me 😁😁😁🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏼👍🏼
LOL - Yeah!!! Typical Chinese nomenclature.
I got the Corsair now I’m getting this, I’m surprised my Corsair survived a crash in the tree with the battery plugged in for over 24 hours, you probably remember my old comment on a different channel saying about that lol.
That's crazy! I had a 747 fly away and later, over a week later, we found it!!! Amazingly, it was 100% fine ;)
yea one thing i like about these 500 mm warbirds from eachine brian . is you can fly all of them with the same stock transmitter the fu corsair the p51. the p47 razorback. even the volantex trainstar.the t 28 trojan
Yeah, if they'll bind for you...I've had issues getting them to bind from one plane to the next, but I "know" this is supposed to be possible - wonder what I'm doing wrong.
@@BrianPhillipsRC well I tried them all on fu corsair stock controller and the others all bound it in the normal way? Maybe just got lucky there.
I'm new to the hobby, so I don't know a lot about manipulating and repairing the styrofoam but I was wondering could you create a dihedral by weighing down the fuselage with a dumbbell on a string with the wings balanced between two milk crates or something similar? You might could apply a hair dryer in that position lightly to mold the wings into a dihedral.
Maybe. Sometimes, well to be fair MOST of the time, there's reinforcements on the wings....so not without breaking and re-epoxying or gluing the break...bummer, right!??!?
U stuck that landing lol. That thing looks like its crazy to fly one wrong move an boom crash an burn lol
LOL Yeah, these "fly by suggestion" models are not always the easiest planes, and they're kinda pushed as "easy to fly" ...hence the "return to home" - more like turn around, maybe, and fly away - LOL ;)
Right. Y did a hell of a job keepin it in the air i would have crashed for sure lol
Thank you for the beautifully in depth videos. Been VERY VERY helpful to me. And VERY concise, that's a HUGE blessing all its own☺. I would like to know if you have a good source for a replacement prop for this plane, from within America. Or, if there is a good replacement-kind for it. My two have shattered and was hoping for a more flexible prop or a 3 blade or something to have fun experiment with☺. Mine was garbage out of the box, wickedly tail heavy. 5oz in nose so far and almost flyable until propstrike # 2☺.
I don't have a good source for replacement props beyond Banggood link for the plane, then "What other people bought" at the bottom of the page as you scroll down. Some of the NEWEST planes can be tough to get the props, very unfortunately.
As for props, especially as a new RC pilot, get used to going to a local hobby shop and raiding their props...it will make you feel like some sort of an addict, but this is part of being new. I DO still break props, but much less frequency now-a-days, so there is a light at the end of the tunnel ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Looks like my timber umx 3 blade is a good fit. Will try that next. Thank you☺
Are you planning to review the German bf109 that came out around the same time the p47 did? Interested to see which one performs better.
YES....coming NOW ;) ASAP when it arrives.
What if you trim it when in expert mode. Does that mess up beginner mode? It would be nice to fly in beginner, then flip the switch to do some aerobatics.
Also I agree with your “lemon” theory. I had an a800 that flew great. Then on the third flight it would lock up into a nose dive in the 6g mode, and wouldn’t let me pull out of it. I see yours flies great. Must’ve got a bad one.
I tried it later and very unsuccessful. I should have done that for our video, but we were SHORT on daylight (or the Camera Crew had an appointment she needed to leave for....or some such thing)...sorry about that.
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Hi Mike!
It sounds like a washing machine on spin. It needs a direct drive brushless.
AMEN!
Brian, I am a total beginner and I am looking to buy one of these small Eachine Warbirds. I was interested in the P47 but after this review feel that the P51 or T28 would be better choices. I would also consider the ME109 but cannot find any reviews. Do you have a recommendation between the P51 or T28 for a beginner. I've spent several hours watching your videos. Thanks.
Good call! Any of these three would give you a better experience...
T28 bit.ly/3398xse
F4U bit.ly/3h3OhNI
P51 bit.ly/2JQDtDj
...we have videos on all three if you need more help.
Sorry for my slow reply!
Wow I Like the size class Great Vid Just wish the flight performance was a little better in advanced.
Totally agreed!
How does it fly with no landing gear ? . It would of been great if they used a brushless motor and set it up like the XK A430 .
Agreed. It's big enough to justify that power system, NO DOUBT. As for no landing gear....I want to see it perform better before I spend that time taking the gear off ;) (I know that sounds bad, but it's true)
Brian, can I suggest that you get the CofG sorted first, basically adding allot of trim to make it fly in assisted mode is artificially countering teh tail heavy CofG this then results in the wild antics in the no gyro mode as it's miles off due to excessive tail heavy CofG problem and the elevator basically forcing it into a nose down pitch and the wild ride that then results.......... keep adding nose weight until the control surfaces are essentially "level" and it flies - glides in the no gyro mode with minimal trim other have found around 20 grams in the nose is needed but then the power is even more lacking - gutless than it already is........ gotta say it's a lemon compared to the awesome little 400mm birds........ kind of a pity as it's a nice looking plane........
I agree with your technical suggestion, but since they don't mention it, I figure this will show people just how amazing to expect the flight performance to really be....
...BUT, I get it...get the CG right...why the heck didn't they mention it in the manual?!!?
How do you change the prop? Broke it yesterday and it's so tight on there I feel like I'm going to break it trying to get it off.
You have to hold the shaft with needle nose pliers to help make it work, if you're unscrewing it. Sometimes they're easy, and sometimes they're HARD. Sorry for the trouble you're experiencing.
i got one on the way, i was wondering what if i hook up 2 batteries parallel to add nose weight and fly longer. is there room in that fat fuselage for 2 batteries?
You can do this too, or even THREE. Whatever gets the plane to CG out better. Wish Eachine would have shared the CG on this plane.
Horizon hobby hasn’t made anything substantial in a while now, I wonder if they’re working on something big like the draco or the f-16
They actually have, and shipping delays have caused havoc in the RC industry. I can't tell you now, but I know of at least 3 game changers that will have people coming off the rails over ....BUT they can't get then here in time...
Oh well, I guess we'll just have to wait longer ;)
Now wouldn’t it be cool if they came out with scrappy.😳😉👍🏻 come on HORIZON HOBBY I know you can do it.
they should release a new line of umx planes ( hopefully a bf109)
Question totally from left field, but do you have an ix20 radio? Played with one? Or thinking bout getting one. I been checking them out and they seem very user friendly and the options are crazy. Thoughts on them?
They are awesome, and awesomely expensive ;)
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I would be proud to own EITHER. 8 more channels is a bit crazy...I've NEVER used more than 10, fyi....and I have the DX18 (food for thought, but not trying to change your mind - if money is NOT the issue here, HECK YES - get one)
@@BrianPhillipsRC money is always an issue but they look pretty EZ to mix and use crow and all that cool stuff that you do but with a touch screen and it looks like it is a windows based software with touch screen. They seem pretty bad ass.
Brian, where does the CG measure on yours?
I finally received mine a few days ago, and after trimming out, it was still basically un-flyable in INT or EXP mode. In BEGINNER, doing a power-off hands-off glide it would depart into a stall/spin! So I added 17gr ballast to the nose to move CG forward to 27% of wing root cord length. Stability ok now & glides normally.
Then on my 5th battery, it struggled to climb and on the 6th battery the motor is now dead. Disappointing.
During my 3 good flights, my 9yr old daughter flew laps around ole dad with the 400mm T-28.
That's very disappointing! Only 6 flights?!?!?? Not to mention 27grams!? That's a lot of weight to get CG to work out.
@@BrianPhillipsRC I needed 2 oz of lead up front umder the cowl to get CG right. Now it glides ok and can be flown in all modes.
cool
It's cool, but not everything I had hoped for. Still okay ;)
my heart beats for uuu
Thanks!
Maybe do an FPV air combat between Mini P-47 and Mini BF109?! Thanks! Also would love to see if Eachine can produce 600mm or 700mm RTF or PNP warbirds.
That would be cool.
Stop trimming planes in beginner mode, people! It does nothing but cause crashes once you flip to manual mode. Think about how it works with the auto-leveling constantly correcting against the trim adjustments you just made, and you’ll understand.
Trouble for this plane and many other Eachines I've flown (We've reviewed almost every one), is that there isn't any way to center the gyro/flight controller so that the plane is specially aware of it's flat and level position in space...hence not really any opportunity to trim. You gotta get the thing to fly.
P.S. I did try that too (trimming in expert), and it was a huge embarrassing failure too...but that didn't make the "cut"...
I've had much better luck with other Eachines. Not sure if this plane suffers from miss aligned multipurpose Rx PCB as was true for some other Chinese planes of the past. If so, one plane will work well, and the next may not...
i try to bind the eachine planes (F16, F22, etc...) to my transmitters spectrum NX8 but it do not work... each time i want fly these planes in expert/intermediate mode with the eachine transmistter, the planes crash immediately. in debutant it's ok and i must use the button for the predefined acrobatic figures....
These planes are not DSMX or DSM2 so you can't use the Spektrum Radio gear. OpenTX will bind to them, but I lost patience with OpenTx with my Jumper T8SG...but would entertain using the Eachine 18tx (might be wrong on the name)
Either way, hope this helps
Oz - So all of them are V761 protocol? Do you ever have to "tune" your channels to get them to bind? I gave up so long ago, with my Jumper...T8SG
Brian, change the prop and see if that helps with the gearbox noise. I have both the Eachine P51 and T28 and got props with blades that weren't 180 degrees apart. Sometimes it's hard to see it at first but you can check by using a straight edge down the middle of the prop. Poor manufacturing is to blame but luckily my planes came with an extra prop.
It's not the blades! If you turn propeller by hand, it's very rough. Motor is too weak for the airframe and weight! The 3 modes are so different from the 400 mm warbirds. It would be a nice plane, if it had similar flight characteristics as the little mustang or t28.
@@siegmarlange5470 Oh I see. It is a bigger plane than the 400mm warbirds. My P51 and T28 fly exceptionally well, especially for a brushed motor. I don't have the P47 version. I wonder if there would be enough room to put a brushless motor in there? Is the ESC/Rx and servos all on one PC board?
@@danreynolds8028 I also have all 3 400 mm eachine warbirds. They fly perfect! The p47 is totally different! It looks nice, but motor is too weak for the airframe. It’s a bit tail heavy and the mid and expert modes are almost unflyable! Mid mode of the small eachines is very nice and I have made a small modification on the stock transmitter, that allows to fly in expert mode by simply holding down a switch, that I just release to switch back to mid mode. There is a video on CZcams, that shows the modification. No extra parts neccessary, just a little soldering, that everyone can do easily! The p47 has the same electronical layout, i.e. receiver and esc are on one board. I would not recommend buying the p47!
@@siegmarlange5470 Glad to know that before I bought one! I did notice that the prices have gone up quite a bit lately too so I will pass on it for now. Also, I see that Eachine/Volantex makes a Bf-109 version now but it seems a bit pricy too. I wonder how good that one is? It is annoying to buy a product that turns out to be disappointing. I do love the look of P-47s. I have the E-Flite 1200mm P47 (Texas Tornado) and the Durafly Bf-109 and would really like to have smaller versions. The 400mm warbirds are so quick and easy to get in the air and practically crash proof. I really love them. Thanks for the informative reply!!
Yeah, Dan - this is one is about 20% bigger model than the other 400mm warbirds (Which were GREAT), but it's still light...in fact, it's LIGHTER...which is great for wing loading, but not great for flight performance, evidently (LOL - it should be....but Eachine managed to miss the mark on this)
I think this plane could be made to fly well, and not everyone is gonna have a LOUD gear box. We probably just have a piece of plastic that didn't get trimmed from a single tooth on the gear sets....not a huge deal, but it sounds pretty bad.
Glad you're here with us, and sounds like you and Siegmar worked through your comment/quesiton ;) Thanks Siegmar
Have you actually weighed it, hard to believe it's 90g (3oz)?
I put it on the scale in the video...and WOW it's light!!! But CG isn't marked or listed, and I think that's what's "wrong" with this plane unfortunately. Hard to get it right with the small stock lipo.
Looks really cool I just hate ya can't fly it in standard mode professional what ever they call it lol That's a bummer It seems to fly pretty good in self leveling mode though 👍✌️
It's been getting a lot of nasty comments from my audience, but I think it's just maybe not quite as good as the 400mm counterparts. I think with some effort, it could be made pretty sweet, but I don't want to have to "make it sweet" myself ;)
This model comes out of the box very tail heavy and it does not fly well. Add two quarters into the bottom of the cowl and it flies very well.
I tried adding more weight, and it flew bad still. I think it needs a LOT of weight.
Mine needed 2 oz of lead under the front cowl to fly right.
I passed on this because it flies poorly. The volantex sport cub 500 or one of the original Eachine warbirds is the better choice.
Can't say I disagree...but I think it could be easily resolved...we just don't want to make a mod and share it as what would come out of the box...you get it, I'm sure Gimp Man ;)
EACHINE ARE A GREAT VALUE COMPANY
I think they're one of the better Chinese brands.
is this look like the cessna 500mm
I guess I wouldn't say that...but similar electronics. Is that what you mean?
yes same electronics.. im thinking to get that razor back this payday sale this May 1 thanks for the review again i got much to learn and ideas b4 i buy RC.. 🎉✌️👌
25:50 Hemostat
yes
Lol. Thank you guys
Thank YOU!
It is bruslhes motor?
Check out the link in the video description - I honestly can't remember on this one!
NOPE - brushed motor....just checked ( bit.ly/30hZiqN ) way at the bottom of the specs
68 nice
Thanks Tim!
Is the number your "Like" or your "View" - Still trying to make sure I'm understanding right.
ehh... yeah.. maybe not for me. Thank you for the honest review.
So glad we could help you with your decision ;)
Thanks for being here with us KTJL
A man could take a heat gun and carefully put a little dihedral in possibility
Probably not...wings have a spar ;( I mean, that would be nice though...you COULD just break it....but then it'll be all wonky.
Your title says it's a P-47 razorback, this model is not a Razorback, it's a Bubbletop model. I see Banggood also has it wrong. Looks like a nice model though.
Are you really surprised ;) LOL...
If you want a good laugh, just sign up for Banggood emails...you will see all sorts of "interesting" things like this. It will give you something to smile about, before you go about your daily life - LOL
What’s wrong with the “Fly Home” Brian…? 🤔
I'm not sure what you're asking. Possibly I've lost the context of your comment...can you time stamp it to help me out?
Hi Brian, you said yo “weren’t bothering to shove”fly home” function. I would be interested to see you demonstrate it…unless it’s no good…?
You get this plane, trash the electronics. Keep the frame.
I think you're 100%...the Tx is not as good as I've come to expect for RTF, and the controls could be cleaned up a TON with an improved Tx....and for this price point, brushless motor is almost expected.
@@BrianPhillipsRC you got 100's of hours of flying in you belt, and this little monster with this electronic s put you in close calls. The frame is ok but electronics no so good. Imaging a new pilot? Hay caramba.
Eachine does make some great value added RC products but this one is a easy pass because of the coreless motor. I have the F22 from Eachine and it's gathering dust as I have another brushless F22 from XKS Toys and its so much better for a bit more.
I'm pretty much with you...at this price point, why not boast a brushless motor and slightly better Tx? I think for another 30-50 bucks, Eachine could have a KILLER plane.
Idk if you remember when i asked you to review it and ITS FINALLY HERE and thank god i didn't get bit because its very disappointing
LOL - This CAN happen ;) LOL We don't just review them when they're amazing, but I think this plane is in line with the 400mm warbirds, but I think the additional size has allowed for even slower flight, and I LOVE that detail. I just don't get why, at this price point, we can't expect a small brushless motor, and maybe slightly better gimbals on the RTF tx.
...not necessarially agreeing that it's "disappointing", but am pointing out that it's far from perfect.
Thanks for coming back again Andrew.
P.S. This one was supposed to ship FOR-EVER ago...
I got mine yesterday. The gyro was defective. Waste of money
I've heard almost exclusively negative comments about this plane. What's going on with Eachine?!?!? So strange, I would have put them on a bit of a pedestal of Chinese RC Brands, but maybe we need to rethink this?
Save your money this bird's a bust. Mine is very tail heavy and way underpowered. I even added extra weight to the nose and still did not help. I will say that I absolutely love the 400 mm mini warbirds by eachine.
This is true ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Mine took 2 oz of nose weight to fly right.
actually, not a razorback, looking at the canopy. Nice model
Yes, correct...it's definitely not - LOL!!! I guess one could make it a razorback if they wanted??? That might be pretty cool!
They have this on sale for 69 dollars is it worth it at that low price
Sure, but just get the thing NOSE heavy and she'll fly well!
Dang I'm Only #4... 😖🤬 I Think Them Smaller 400mm China Series #1=T-28, #2=Cours-Air, #3=F-16 Are Better Flyers... 😜😎
True, they were very good, and this one is a strong okay - it's not terrible, or bad...but it's got some definite room for improvement to get back up to the 400mm echelon
I like the way you make fun of down syndrome people, at the the start of your videos, real class.
Great review Brian but I'm not feeling this plane, just doesn't seem to be up to the standards of the other Eachine products, especially the mini P-51 Mustang and the F-22 Raptor. Also the little EDF jet they released last month was a big disappointment....
I won't try to talk you out of this position. I think some of these planes might be a bit "rushed" to market??? BUT, I will have to say, they're getting a lot better for LOOKS, and I love the size. 500mm is a cool size, and it's fun that you can fly so slow. Slow is good, but we really ought be looking at a brushless motor at this price point, and they gotta get these Tx'es working a bit better. The Heli's used to come with SWEET Tx'es in the RTF's and now we get this setup for some reason....and at a higher price. I know inflation is hitting everyone HARD right now, but we need back to more of a "Bang for the buck" model...even if it's MORE expensive. Hope this makes sense.
Wow, really flies horribly compared to the 400 mm warbirds
I want to say that it can be corrected, but I don't want to share this, since most will pull it out of the box and have exactly what we had.
Mine needed 2 oz of lead under the front cowl to fly right.
How come we never get to see Camera Crew!?
You can from time to time. Check out the Tian Sheng Airbus A380 build series.
Will do - love your vids - very informative and entertaining! You’re a great communicator Brian and your CC/wife does an excellent job keeping these small, fast moving RC aircraft in frame. Keep doing what you’re doing! 👏
This one definitely does not fly as good as the other legends series, I’ll give this a miss, such a shame..
I agree.
That's a bubble top not as razorback.
Very disappointing! I received my order today. Two hours including assembly, maiden flights, tweaking and disassembly! Not worth a penny! Eachines 400 series warbirds are fantastic. This one is crap!
I have been hearing this a lot...so sorry that you had a terrible experience. I wouldn't rank mine as terrible, but definitely not as good as the 400mm lineup.
YUCK! lmao... And only $133 dollars!
I know...but at this point...you should hear the talks about another price hike. If you want ANYTHING right now...buy it YESTERDAY!
I'm not joking btw...if you want a HH plane - buy it now.
Honestly does not look remotely as good as the 400mm series. It seems to be in a permanent bank, looks tail heavy too. Just meh.
You're not wrong, but I can say, I was always able to fly the 400m warbirds in INTERMEDIATE....but this was almost immediately into the ground!!!
Can't win them all ;(
@@BrianPhillipsRC Yeah same here my friend: I always fly the 400 in intermediate as it's just more reactive. Here it just dropped out of the sky! Thanks for the video though, I had this ordered and cancelled it when it took ages to get delivered - Glad I did so! Thanks :)
For $130 and can only be flown in beginner mode ....No thanks. Lots of other planes that are WAY better.
That's why you keep coming back for our reviews ;) She's not terrible, but also not cheap...connect the dots and this is where you end up.
It's fun, but they need to get brushless and better tx for this price point, in my personal opinion.
Try the Arrows Pioneer 1400mm for $169.
I think your unit is broken. Eachine/Volantex products fly on rails.
I've had two, and this was the better one, believe it or not. We've also reviewed all the others too, with only a few exceptions. I have the last on shipping now too ;)
I don't mean to be unfair to Eachine here, but it just wasn't as good as some of the 400mm warbirds. I mean, I was super excited for this one....I expected greatness, but it was only okay. Trouble with these planes, in my best estimation, when the price "Catches Up" with a certain point, people stop "tolerating" small issues that might otherwise be overlooked on a cheaper plane. Now it's the price of higher quality, albeit BNF option, and RC enthusiasts NOTICE these things... Eachine need to be very careful to be sensitive to this...or they will lose a good reputation very quickly.
That all being said, this plane is still FUN, and maybe we "Got a bad one"??? Who knows, but it's a beautiful little plane, and is RTF, but I would never put a beginner into this plane....that's how we make "one and done" pilots.
flys like a POS,, not for me at least,, too small for my old eyes
I wonder if I have the cg off...remember not mentioned in the manual - LOL ;)
This Eachine junk is way overpriced for what you get, unless you prefer form over function which is never a good rule of thumb to go by. Why buy this when you can get a better quality, more capable and powerful model like the Eflite Turbo Timber UMX at the same price point? This model may look good but that seems like all it has going for it, which is a hard pass for me.
Well, don't disagree with your main point, but this is RTF, and the Turbo Timber UMX, which is amazing...it's a BNF...so it's hardly comparable.
NOW, if HH would offer the Turbo Timber in a RTF - that would be SUPER smart!!! Unfortunately, it would probably cost something like $300....
crap
Seems to be the consensus :( I wanted so much more for it.
@@BrianPhillipsRC certainly for the price they ask