I think if 10 different units make you feel as if they are overpowered, that speaks highly for the balance of the game. It also means that the game is probably fun, because if something feels overpowered, that usually means it is doing cool stuff.
I don't think every online game needs DLC and new content in order to thrive and keep an active community. A good example of this is Rocket League- the only DLC is cosmetics and they add a few extra modes for a side treat, but the core experience is engaging and fun and strategic enough that people will play it just to have fun in the same way that we play sports
How to improve Mechabellum: 1) More Units - this is the obvious one, so wont elaborate [besides saying a Healer bot could be cool...] 2) Activated mid-battle abilities (would be very fun, like a short duration shield or a movement boost( 3) Map environments - things like a Water area to slow ground units, Hills/Buildings to provide more cover, height differences for similar reasons) 4) occasional NPC units - random healing mechs or guerrilla fighters, for example 5) Challenge Mode - A set challenge of X units in Y position at certain rounds, try to beat it like a puzzle I'm sure they can come up with some more interesting options or features :)
Randomness in an autobattler would immediately kill the game. The genre is completely about player agency inside a controlled set of variables. Adding in a variable not controlled by either player that can influence the results makes decisions the player has made invalid or less meaningful... which translates into less fun.
Boats have this really fun upgrade where they make all surrounding units take 50% less damage and be resistant against shit for hte first 15 seconds. Definitely would recommend
It is very very good! but it costs 350 [+50 if you count the skip], which is basically the cost of a giant unit or 2 medium units. It's hard to tell if it's worth it and I would say it is situationally dependant.
@@xea7844very dependent. It can either become infinite, perfectly spaced out stall/chaff against multiple large units, or the most useless economy swing in the wrong way ever that could make previously upgraded mustangs picking up missile intercept be worthwhile for the enemy.
@@kamikeserpentail3778 Then I win. Turn one Overlord, turn two you are behind and get the %healing upgrade on your overloard (it costs 100). Turn two you will probably loose and it will also be the turn where your opponent will most likely buy a bunch of Marksmen (often even doubles down on it on Turn 3). Turn 3 you buy two packs of Wasps. Those you NEVER level up, they are PURELY as Chaf against snipers and Melting points (Leveling them gives enemies more exp). Then you get the Shield upgrade on the Wasps, after you have that they are the perfect protection for your Overlord. The idea is that you put yourself 100 behind in the Economy early for getting an overlord out early to get lv2. Once its level 2 + healing + chaf it is incredibly hard to kill. Most people react with Marksmen, which is actually the wrong response. After that its just about keeping your chaf and overlord alive. I often like to go Mustangs cause by this point enemies realize they REALLY need to get rid of the sacrifical wasps. So I just go Mustang v Mustang.
They're only overpowered with parasitic ammo. But then again, parasitic is pretty bullshit. I usually handle overlords with fangs or wasps. But my wasps have EMP to disable armor. Melting points can do well if I'm in a good enough place to deploy them. Day[9] plays when I'm at work, such a shame
Love your content Sean, I have for years. however, such a huge portion of it at this point is just you policing your chat to talk and act exactly how you want like some unhinged emotionally immature despot. Maybe you don't care how enjoyable your content is for non twitch viewers, but you really take away from it with the constant whining.
Or another way to look at it is that it’s refreshing to have Sean ask his chat to be adults. The fact that you called that display emotionally immature makes me think you don’t take words or their meanings very seriously.
@@jasonkelley6185 I have to take the side of the OP on this one. Phrasing a question in the context of "why didn't you do this?" or a comment as "You should have done this instead." is not immature in the slightest. The fact that you consider such a thing childish (which is objectively the claim you have made by suggesting that asking the chat not to do that qualifies as "asking them to be adults.") is utterly absurd. Sean is an emotionally fragile, narcissistic man-child who refuses to engage with criticism unless it fits his exact terms (which is, again, narcissistic and childish.) An actual adult doesn't shut down or get defensive when someone says "Why didn't you do this?", they just answer the question. To be clear, Sean asking people not to be dicks is fine. It is actively a good thing that he has cultivated positivity in his chat over the years as a general rule. But when he gripes about someone saying "You should have done things this way." he comes off like a whiny little pansy, and it is extremely irritating.
@@jasonkelley6185Sean doesn't let disrespect run rampant in his chat when many other streamers do. Watching a CZcams from a twitch stream and claiming how he moderates chat is "not fun" or "whiny"....Sean doesn't center CZcams viewers and is vocal about that. Whether someone thinks Sean is being this way or that for the CZcamss, he's streaming on Twitch. None of this is deeply edited. The other guys should stop watching the videos. Day9 doesn't read the comments here. The "feedback" is on deaf ears. It's extremely likely he'll do the thing you dislike and that's that. Though it's concerning what you two consider to be whining or condescending. I suggest working on that EQ score.
@@kingofbudokai I hear you. We are talking about different parts of the stream. You’re talking about the part where someone in the chat asked Sean how he wanted people to interact with him. Op was complaining about Sean asking people to be civil with each other on the topic of adhd diagnosis.
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I'm beginning to think these unit might not be overpowered, and Sean might just be good at this game.
I think if 10 different units make you feel as if they are overpowered, that speaks highly for the balance of the game. It also means that the game is probably fun, because if something feels overpowered, that usually means it is doing cool stuff.
This is why I keep coming back to Day9, he targets his enemies' balls.
@0:45 Overlords get smoked by pheonixes in multiple franchises
i got so excited to see Day9 with a new video that mentioned overlords that i clicked without even reading more
There's nothing else in the title to read lol.
I don't think every online game needs DLC and new content in order to thrive and keep an active community. A good example of this is Rocket League- the only DLC is cosmetics and they add a few extra modes for a side treat, but the core experience is engaging and fun and strategic enough that people will play it just to have fun in the same way that we play sports
They can bring new Races, or Colors (like in MTG since we are speaking about it) it could be more fun
How to improve Mechabellum:
1) More Units - this is the obvious one, so wont elaborate [besides saying a Healer bot could be cool...]
2) Activated mid-battle abilities (would be very fun, like a short duration shield or a movement boost(
3) Map environments - things like a Water area to slow ground units, Hills/Buildings to provide more cover, height differences for similar reasons)
4) occasional NPC units - random healing mechs or guerrilla fighters, for example
5) Challenge Mode - A set challenge of X units in Y position at certain rounds, try to beat it like a puzzle
I'm sure they can come up with some more interesting options or features :)
Randomness in an autobattler would immediately kill the game. The genre is completely about player agency inside a controlled set of variables. Adding in a variable not controlled by either player that can influence the results makes decisions the player has made invalid or less meaningful... which translates into less fun.
I want to relax in the battle-phase and not apm tiny shields around. But I'm all for making the map's matter in fair concise way's
Boats have this really fun upgrade where they make all surrounding units take 50% less damage and be resistant against shit for hte first 15 seconds.
Definitely would recommend
I've been spamming Melting points as of late, seriously overpowered unit
They're only good against a handful of things...
I only build one or two.
And they just got their health buffed by a nudge 🎉
At 26:20, the powers just look like a game plan. Move in then start firing, then sit in this location (storm) and just rain fire.
I've been playing a lot of SH, mustangs and marksman
Parasitic ammo seems really good but i never see day9 take it
Love it on a well placed vulcan
It is very very good! but it costs 350 [+50 if you count the skip], which is basically the cost of a giant unit or 2 medium units. It's hard to tell if it's worth it and I would say it is situationally dependant.
@@xea7844very dependent. It can either become infinite, perfectly spaced out stall/chaff against multiple large units, or the most useless economy swing in the wrong way ever that could make previously upgraded mustangs picking up missile intercept be worthwhile for the enemy.
I have been farming MMR with Turn 1 Overlords. Its surprisingly good for how risky it sounds
When i do it i get hardcountered ASAP and just instantly lose :D
So you put yourself behind with a loan, and the enemy can immediately hard counter with marksmen...
Do what exactly do you do?
@@kamikeserpentail3778 Then I win.
Turn one Overlord, turn two you are behind and get the %healing upgrade on your overloard (it costs 100). Turn two you will probably loose and it will also be the turn where your opponent will most likely buy a bunch of Marksmen (often even doubles down on it on Turn 3).
Turn 3 you buy two packs of Wasps. Those you NEVER level up, they are PURELY as Chaf against snipers and Melting points (Leveling them gives enemies more exp). Then you get the Shield upgrade on the Wasps, after you have that they are the perfect protection for your Overlord.
The idea is that you put yourself 100 behind in the Economy early for getting an overlord out early to get lv2. Once its level 2 + healing + chaf it is incredibly hard to kill. Most people react with Marksmen, which is actually the wrong response.
After that its just about keeping your chaf and overlord alive. I often like to go Mustangs cause by this point enemies realize they REALLY need to get rid of the sacrifical wasps. So I just go Mustang v Mustang.
@@kamikeserpentail3778win the first round dumb ass and make them invest in marksman's then you put crawlers on the flank
How do you buy overlords turn 1? That is 600 cost?
Teleporting boats feels like BC and recall. Not like I ever played SCI/II lol
Hi Day9 love this game because of you. Thanks
If you get the wasp summon get the shield upgrade on your normal wasps so the summons get it too
I feel that we should be discouraging the meth pushing and that discovering later in life is probably not a good thing for them in the long term
@10:27 Just think of what has the greater variety of letters and in this case, it is the contempoary term: ADHD.
boats be all like *boat noises*
I wish there were more suport units
They're only overpowered with parasitic ammo.
But then again, parasitic is pretty bullshit.
I usually handle overlords with fangs or wasps.
But my wasps have EMP to disable armor.
Melting points can do well if I'm in a good enough place to deploy them.
Day[9] plays when I'm at work, such a shame
well positioned marksmen delete overlords
@@deathpawn9 I use them sometimes too, depends how things are looking.
Mustangs can work too.
But I don't typically like to transition into marksmen
Day9 need a nerf. 😄
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Sean explaining how to engage with streamers in every video is getting a bit annoying lol
Love your content Sean, I have for years. however, such a huge portion of it at this point is just you policing your chat to talk and act exactly how you want like some unhinged emotionally immature despot. Maybe you don't care how enjoyable your content is for non twitch viewers, but you really take away from it with the constant whining.
Or another way to look at it is that it’s refreshing to have Sean ask his chat to be adults.
The fact that you called that display emotionally immature makes me think you don’t take words or their meanings very seriously.
@@jasonkelley6185 I have to take the side of the OP on this one. Phrasing a question in the context of "why didn't you do this?" or a comment as "You should have done this instead." is not immature in the slightest. The fact that you consider such a thing childish (which is objectively the claim you have made by suggesting that asking the chat not to do that qualifies as "asking them to be adults.") is utterly absurd. Sean is an emotionally fragile, narcissistic man-child who refuses to engage with criticism unless it fits his exact terms (which is, again, narcissistic and childish.)
An actual adult doesn't shut down or get defensive when someone says "Why didn't you do this?", they just answer the question. To be clear, Sean asking people not to be dicks is fine. It is actively a good thing that he has cultivated positivity in his chat over the years as a general rule. But when he gripes about someone saying "You should have done things this way." he comes off like a whiny little pansy, and it is extremely irritating.
@@jasonkelley6185Sean doesn't let disrespect run rampant in his chat when many other streamers do. Watching a CZcams from a twitch stream and claiming how he moderates chat is "not fun" or "whiny"....Sean doesn't center CZcams viewers and is vocal about that. Whether someone thinks Sean is being this way or that for the CZcamss, he's streaming on Twitch. None of this is deeply edited.
The other guys should stop watching the videos. Day9 doesn't read the comments here. The "feedback" is on deaf ears. It's extremely likely he'll do the thing you dislike and that's that.
Though it's concerning what you two consider to be whining or condescending. I suggest working on that EQ score.
It's actually refreshing to see someone not allowing their chat to get toxic. It's great that he places an emphasis on civility.
@@kingofbudokai I hear you. We are talking about different parts of the stream. You’re talking about the part where someone in the chat asked Sean how he wanted people to interact with him. Op was complaining about Sean asking people to be civil with each other on the topic of adhd diagnosis.