Jrue Holiday On The Boston Celtics | Full JJ Redick Reaction

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  • čas přidán 1. 10. 2023
  • Welcome to another episode of The Old Man and The Three Things! We have some exciting news. OM3 Things will now feature The Dunker Spot AND Tim Legler on a more permanent basis. We're hoping to make this the best hoops nerd podcast on planet earth!
    In this episode, JJ Redick, Nekias Duncan and Steve Jones dissect the Damian Lillard trade to the Milwaukee Bucks and The Jrue Holiday trade to The Boston Celtics. First the guys talk about how Dame will play with Giannis Antetokounmpo, Khris Middleton, Brook Lopez and The Bucks. Then they get into how Jrue Holiday can help Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Kristaps Porziņģis and The Boston Celtics. And finally, we dive into how The Portland Trail Blazers come out in the trade.
    Subscribe to The Old Man and The Three podcast w/ JJ Redick (ESPN / First Take) and Tommy Alter CZcams channel today for more NBA analysis, player interviews and highlights.
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  • @JJRedick
    @JJRedick  Před 8 měsíci +354

    Joe Mazzulla is our guest this week too. It's an awesome interview. Subscribe if you haven't and we'll see you later this week.

    • @SamUHells
      @SamUHells Před 8 měsíci +14

      That’s such a timely interview, I’m sorry jrue got traded right as you did your interview 😂

    • @torre333
      @torre333 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Who’s going to back up Kristaps? Who can the Celtics get for a backup center not named Luke

    • @silenceisonfire2099
      @silenceisonfire2099 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thank you for everything you do for us Basketball fans JJ

    • @EdwardandSharron.Boyd.Blessed
      @EdwardandSharron.Boyd.Blessed Před 8 měsíci +2

      Joe will be winning his first of many championships this year!

    • @kevinkeene9158
      @kevinkeene9158 Před 8 měsíci

      @@EdwardandSharron.Boyd.Blessed🙏🙏🙏

  • @dechlankuipers4524
    @dechlankuipers4524 Před 8 měsíci +1394

    I know Boston is the last place the Bucks wanted Jrue to go

    • @falcon1378
      @falcon1378 Před 8 měsíci +121

      Nightmare scenario fr 😭

    • @jellyman9013
      @jellyman9013 Před 8 měsíci +17

      Why? Dude was their most inconsistent offensive player and he got absolutely torched defensively in the playoffs haha

    • @n8tethegr8t20
      @n8tethegr8t20 Před 8 měsíci +202

      @@jellyman9013 hes still a great defensive player that docent go away as much as offense, and for last season bucks were asking him to be a 2nd option and thats not him, celtics are using him to facilitate the offence and be 4th or 5th option for offense which will make him more comfortable

    • @ZhangK71
      @ZhangK71 Před 8 měsíci +110

      @@jellyman9013That’s like saying you ain’t worried about handing over a loaded revolver to someone you hate because it (very rarely) jams sometime. It’s still a dangerous weapon-why would you want to hand it to your enemy?

    • @pete3198
      @pete3198 Před 8 měsíci +41

      ​@jellyman9013
      Because Boston have already been the better playoff team for the last two seasons, and Jrue gives then everything they needed in a point guard. His game is a much better fit in Boston where he won't be relied on so much for scoring - all he really meets to do is handle the ball, play hard defensively and make the odd open shot.
      It also allows Boston to split timing so they absolutely always have either Tatum and holiday or Brown and porzingis in the court - 48 minutes a night they can have multiple guys they can run the offence through.

  • @michaelaronski7288
    @michaelaronski7288 Před 8 měsíci +510

    This is just such a superior show then any of the nonsense on espn

    • @jamaalbruh1472
      @jamaalbruh1472 Před 8 měsíci +7

      fr daddy

    • @johndoe2769
      @johndoe2769 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Malika the puppet or real players who have played with great insight. 100% agree

    • @throbbingpenguin
      @throbbingpenguin Před 8 měsíci +15

      @@jamaalbruh1472📸🤨

    • @mitchtherevolution
      @mitchtherevolution Před 8 měsíci +23

      Highschool kids filming out of their parents basement typically make better content than ESPN.
      But, JJ is legit one of the best.

    • @BlitzBroz123
      @BlitzBroz123 Před 8 měsíci +4

      It’s so bad how much more superior it is though lmao

  • @ColbyCrazyYT
    @ColbyCrazyYT Před 8 měsíci +432

    Celtics have 6 top 25 defensive rating players in the NBA thats crazy now that they got Porzingis and Holiday.

    • @Fantabiscuit
      @Fantabiscuit Před 8 měsíci

      So Holiday is part of that list right?

    • @ColbyCrazyYT
      @ColbyCrazyYT Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@Fantabiscuit Yeah

    • @ColbyCrazyYT
      @ColbyCrazyYT Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@Fantabiscuit the list is Tatum Brown Holiday White Porzingis and Grant Williams lmao 🤣💀

    • @Chef_Capone
      @Chef_Capone Před 8 měsíci +38

      @@ColbyCrazyYT Grant signed with Dallas this off-season

    • @nickhendry1051
      @nickhendry1051 Před 8 měsíci +12

      @@ColbyCrazyYT grant is gone and let’s be real KP can’t keep up with the big dogs

  • @derricklavoie2513
    @derricklavoie2513 Před 8 měsíci +44

    I believe Celtics trading Smart and forcing Tatum and Brown to step up in the leadership role is very intelligent. I was also taken back about losing Brogdon and Williams but gaining Jrue Holiday is super exciting. Sucks we lost our big man Williams, that trade hurts. But I can’t wait for this season. We have what it takes to go all the way and as we’ll best the Bucks.

    • @noahlocke9302
      @noahlocke9302 Před 8 měsíci

      it hurt so much especially since he was so young and has a chance to be a dpoy, and jrue has talked about retiring, but with other moves it makes sense in some ways. Figured al would be brought down in minutes before but now they will have to run him still.

    • @wesleyprince3465
      @wesleyprince3465 Před 7 měsíci

      I've said this for a while, as much as I love smart.... Maybe having the 3rd or at times 4th best player on the team be the "heart and soul" of the team might not have been the best situation as much as I love the dude. This team has to be Tatum and Brown's team for better or for worse.

  • @gemox3225
    @gemox3225 Před 8 měsíci +56

    I like the fact that this show has no fluff. People don't waste 3 minutes talking about the weather.

  • @TheOfficialPageOfOC
    @TheOfficialPageOfOC Před 8 měsíci +22

    It’s crazy how nobody speak on a great Al be guarding Giannis better then anybody in the league definitely in the playoffs.

    • @lucillerose-davis7666
      @lucillerose-davis7666 Před 8 měsíci +3

      This. Give that man his flowers

    • @broconut909
      @broconut909 Před 8 měsíci

      he’s 37…giannis is gonna eat his lunch this year man

    • @bconti1
      @bconti1 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@broconut909 After that stare down last year, I think Al wants to dunk on giannis every year until he's 70.

    • @brianslupecki1990
      @brianslupecki1990 Před 8 měsíci

      He was never even remotely 1 on 1. Not to mention he’s another 2 years older

  • @reactivatedyt9788
    @reactivatedyt9788 Před 8 měsíci +65

    Jordan Walsh. I honestly think he will get some minutes this year. Great long defender. Could give valuable bench performance in the 10 minute range.

    • @donavenknowsbest7414
      @donavenknowsbest7414 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Hell yeah I agree

    • @jessejamesgames8148
      @jessejamesgames8148 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I think Jrue holiday trade took a lot of Walsh's minutes to be honest.

    • @alexcrowell3962
      @alexcrowell3962 Před 8 měsíci

      I thought they were going to mention him

    • @kyler3155
      @kyler3155 Před 8 měsíci +1

      He’s def a sleeper that’s gonna be known by end of the year

    • @JulianIsAnthony
      @JulianIsAnthony Před 8 měsíci

      @@jessejamesgames8148I’m not mad at that considering Jrue is probably going to retire in the next 3-4 years. It might even be good for Jordan’s development to be around a defender like him.

  • @SSJRome
    @SSJRome Před 8 měsíci +253

    Probably the best defensive trio on the perimeter in the league

    • @BenWick-oc8pv
      @BenWick-oc8pv Před 8 měsíci +5

      Need to defend the perimeter in the modern game. Worried about the paint

    • @NotOneToFly
      @NotOneToFly Před 8 měsíci +12

      @@BenWick-oc8pv We got Porzingis. I wouldn't worry too much.

    • @steel1022
      @steel1022 Před 8 měsíci +14

      only having Porzingis is scary... Very injury prone@@NotOneToFly

    • @youtubeconnollyfamily
      @youtubeconnollyfamily Před 8 měsíci +1

      And offensive

    • @youtubeconnollyfamily
      @youtubeconnollyfamily Před 8 měsíci +11

      @@steel1022 Bro last year he had his best year so I’m hoping injuries are behind him but don’t forget it’s the NBA Milwaukee is one superstar away from being in a absolute disaster. Celtics have four players who can put up 30 points. Milwaukee only has two players you can put up 40 points if they lose one of them. They are screwed.

  • @SouthernDrinkSlinger
    @SouthernDrinkSlinger Před 8 měsíci +75

    In my humble opinion. This series of trades gave everyone what they wanted.
    01) Dame got his wish & went to a contender.
    02) Giannis got his wish & the Bucks got better
    03) The Celtics went all in & they are in win-now mode with Jrue.
    04) Portland got a HAUL! Their future is so bright with multiple firsts, pick swaps, and legit big men in Deandre Ayton & Robert Williams, both fit their timeline.
    05) Ayton got out of Pheonix were it was obvious he hated
    06) The Suns added much needed depth which were basically 4 max salaries and vet mins before.

    • @Vividdreamsss333
      @Vividdreamsss333 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Great comment!

    • @rickbrees3297
      @rickbrees3297 Před 8 měsíci +10

      07) gave the Heat motivation to beat you anyway

    • @jasonwolfe3252
      @jasonwolfe3252 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Dame wanted to go to South Beach and play with Jimmy.

    • @nickpaine2767
      @nickpaine2767 Před 8 měsíci +1

      The bucks got worse though

    • @RCTricking
      @RCTricking Před 8 měsíci +2

      I agree Portland got what they want, but I don’t trust their front office to actually capitalize on it 😂😮😢

  • @jcliu
    @jcliu Před 8 měsíci +12

    Al Horford and Brook Lopez should both make the Hall of Fame. Entered NBA as the most traditional (and second-tier) of back-to-the-basket post scorers, and managed to evolve with every metamorphosis of the center position to outlast multiple generations of supposedly superior big men, from Dwight Howard to Roy Hibbert to Joakim Noah to Andrew Bogut to Andrew Bynum to Kevin Love to Rudy Gobert.

    • @MaysMusic1
      @MaysMusic1 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Joakim Noah 😂

    • @jcliu
      @jcliu Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@MaysMusic1 Noah’s made more All-NBA teams than Lopez and Horford! So has Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan, and Al Jefferson!

    • @_XAV_
      @_XAV_ Před 8 měsíci +1

      ⁠​⁠@@MaysMusic1Noah ended 4th in the MVP race at one point. He was terrible his last years but he was really good in his prime.

  • @tymike6065
    @tymike6065 Před 8 měsíci +15

    Loving this trio!

  • @jeremymuir4332
    @jeremymuir4332 Před 8 měsíci +7

    improvements and updates to your podcast are welcome but this quite honestly already is the best and most insider nerdy basketball focussed podcast available.

  • @TKDCats312
    @TKDCats312 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Luke Kornet absolutely catching strays, lmao. The “at least give the illusion of a guy who can pop out and knock down shots” lmao

  • @samdanesh8043
    @samdanesh8043 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Bismack Biyombo would be a good pickup for the Celtics

  • @youcantcme2
    @youcantcme2 Před 8 měsíci +5

    This was so refreshing, actual tactical basketball talk and a former player embracing advanced metrics! Wow.

  • @seano.2693
    @seano.2693 Před 8 měsíci +31

    As a Celtics fan I was yelling from the rooftops for them to go after Holiday, because after Milwaukee got Dame they needed that extra piece to match the Bucks. I think this trade gives the Cs the most versatile/talented 6 man rotation in the NBA, especially defensively. Additionally, they’ve finally got something they really never had with Smart, a floor general. Of course it’s tough to see those key bench pieces go, especially Rob Williams, but in my opinion that version of the Celtics reached their max potential 2 seasons ago when they lost the NBA Finals. I just don’t think they had that extra piece or 2 needed to get over the hump. Now, after this roster refresh, I think the sky is the limit.. and I’m very excited to see how this team gels.

    • @King_Ghost777
      @King_Ghost777 Před 8 měsíci

      I know I love Rob, I hope the blazers had to deny AL for them to send Rob away.

    • @krishnawidardjo5777
      @krishnawidardjo5777 Před 8 měsíci

      Who are the 6 man rotation?

    • @timsweeney684
      @timsweeney684 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@krishnawidardjo5777
      Holiday, White, Brown, Tatum Porzingis, Horford.

  • @slumped378
    @slumped378 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Bucks and Celtics ECF is gonna be fire

  • @Uhuru_Askari
    @Uhuru_Askari Před 8 měsíci +69

    Welcome to the Hall of Fame Jrue Holiday. Congrats on helping Tatum, J. Brown, and Prozingus get they 1st ring. Dang I can see it now, Horford finna be so happy he finally wins a NBA ring. This teams is loaded.

    • @MikeTheNBAGuy
      @MikeTheNBAGuy Před 8 měsíci +3

      They need to improve their bench and bubble-wrap Porzingis before they should be taken over Milwaukee or whoever comes out the West

    • @Nick_MyName
      @Nick_MyName Před 8 měsíci

      Their depth is my only worry they got to be active during the buy out market and trade deadline. They easily could’ve gotten someone like kelly oubre or dwight in the last month

    • @pwnageproduct
      @pwnageproduct Před 8 měsíci +3

      Heat in 6

    • @Uhuru_Askari
      @Uhuru_Askari Před 8 měsíci

      @MikeTheNBAGuy Tbh They might already have a better bench than the Bucks... They still have Horford and D. White. And they have Jordan Walsh and Oshae Brissett... If Luke Kornet can be okay, and if Blake Griffin comes back, it's over... 🤷🏽‍♂️ The only team that I can see stopping this team is the Suns. I don't see the Lakers stopping this team, maybe the Nuggets tho but even then, I kinda doubt it... 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @Uhuru_Askari
      @Uhuru_Askari Před 8 měsíci

      @NickGnagGnag They have Oshae Brissett, Luke Kornet, and Jordan Walsh. Also, this gives Pritchard some opportunity, and if Blake Griffin comes back, I think the Celtics are gonna be straight. They're loaded. They don't need to play their best players at the same time. D. White and / or Horford could come off the bench, honestly, and still play 26-32 minutes... 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @solok5259
    @solok5259 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I’m so excited to watch all the teams around the league this year got so much talent every where hopefully everyone stays healthy

  • @hashmiyoosuf7252
    @hashmiyoosuf7252 Před 8 měsíci

    Great stuff drose !!

  • @augustmoon0004
    @augustmoon0004 Před 8 měsíci +5

    The one thing people are forgetting about the Celtics as compared to other teams, Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown have gotten BETTER every year and are just about to enter their primes!!

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci

      Can they average 21 ppg. Can they let the team win with someone as good as David Robinson inside.

    • @WalterBrady
      @WalterBrady Před 8 měsíci +1

      Facts…

  • @itsKegger
    @itsKegger Před 8 měsíci +1

    you go so much more in depth than these espn guys and actually know what youre talking about, subscribed for sure! i love the points about rebounding, and celtic just signed wenyen gabriel as well for another backup forward

  • @mckdogdrums3543
    @mckdogdrums3543 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thing about Jrue is he brings playoff and championship experience as a veteran guard. He’s still got a few quality years left to give the Celtics a boost. And the fact he’s played in tandem working screens and pick and rolls with some of best bigs in the game like AD, Julius Randle, Demarcus Cousins, Lopez, and the MVP Giannis will only help him work his trademark with Kristaps who is a very talented big man.

  • @cortrellhonor8839
    @cortrellhonor8839 Před 8 měsíci +37

    The Celtics in transition this year will be great to watch

  • @David878
    @David878 Před 8 měsíci +49

    this is the team that brad has wanted since his days of coaching. this starting 5, White,holiday, porz, JB and JT is goiing to be it for the next few years.

    • @thegoat531
      @thegoat531 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Holiday
      Brown
      Tatum
      Porzingus
      Hortford

    • @KidKash123
      @KidKash123 Před 8 měsíci +5

      I’m hyped but financially this can only last 2 years lol

    • @9THDEATH
      @9THDEATH Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@thegoat531there’s many ways they can play it tbh

    • @nellyprotoolz6671
      @nellyprotoolz6671 Před 8 měsíci +1

      That’s an Allstar line up

    • @jasonwolfe3252
      @jasonwolfe3252 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Four guys that are capable of giving you 20 on any given night.

  • @coopertodd28
    @coopertodd28 Před 8 měsíci

    I love it when this duo is with JJ

  • @louisianadon6542
    @louisianadon6542 Před 8 měsíci +141

    People don't realize how good the Celtics gonna be defensively. They can switch every position now.

    • @rlm78iii
      @rlm78iii Před 8 měsíci +16

      Agreed except in the middle. On the perimeter they are good, but they wiill suffer against some bigs. Joel, Giannis and Jokic will eat big time.

    • @DWS205
      @DWS205 Před 8 měsíci +23

      @@rlm78iiiCeltics have defended those post players just fine.

    • @karimzakaria9621
      @karimzakaria9621 Před 8 měsíci +17

      Even the dudes on the bench are underrated defensively. Lamar Stevens, Brissett, and the kid they drafted last year, Jordan Walsh.

    • @DarthLetalis
      @DarthLetalis Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@rlm78iii Tatum is about to be All NBA Defensive first team this year. The Bucks are an after thought. Enjoy 3rd place.

    • @DRose001
      @DRose001 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@DarthLetalisTell the C’s to get a chip first Bucks already got one recently 😂 can’t talk trash for them if they stay choking when it counts.

  • @NotOneToFly
    @NotOneToFly Před 8 měsíci +72

    Awesome podcast guys! Not enough mention of Jordan Walsh. He's going to have serious minutes throughout the season and likely even in the playoffs. I see a Christian Braun role for him for sure.

    • @oe3phen
      @oe3phen Před 8 měsíci +8

      exactly, I mean who knows but in summer games it looked like he's got a lot of upside and potential NBA growth

    • @jasonwolfe3252
      @jasonwolfe3252 Před 8 měsíci +11

      Yes I think that he could do a good job filling the void left by Grant Williams.

    • @jamalymall
      @jamalymall Před 8 měsíci +1

      I hope you are absolutely positively 100% correct. That bench will need it

    • @NotOneToFly
      @NotOneToFly Před 8 měsíci

      @@jamalymall true enough. We still don't know what their mid-level exception will be. I expect Brad to pick up another big or wing if the need arises.

    • @danielperry6557
      @danielperry6557 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@NotOneToFlythey lost the mid level exception because they're in the 2nd apron now. With the holiday trade

  • @angelatanurdzic7508
    @angelatanurdzic7508 Před 8 měsíci

    Great show.👍

  • @nicholasleemarks
    @nicholasleemarks Před 8 měsíci +21

    The West will be a season long thriller where 1-12 will interchange on a nightly basis.
    The East will be a season long build up of anticipation for the MIL-BOS ECF
    (all due respect to MIA and other teams - I know the games gotta be played first - not meant to be too serious, just observing the contrast of the way the two conferences are currently balanced)

    • @NotOneToFly
      @NotOneToFly Před 8 měsíci +1

      I see the Nuggets and Suns easily trading for top spot in the West. There will be a lot more close teams out there than in the East though.

    • @YouReallyDontKnow
      @YouReallyDontKnow Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@NotOneToFlysuns?? 😂😂😂😂

    • @NotOneToFly
      @NotOneToFly Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@YouReallyDontKnow yeah Suns. I don't think they'll stay healthy through to the playoffs, but they'll be a regular season powerhouse. The Nurk fit is great and they got a bit more depth too.

  • @jmf1134
    @jmf1134 Před 8 měsíci

    3 great basketball minds. Thanks fellas.

  • @Hawkgoulet
    @Hawkgoulet Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great episode as always. So much better listening to educated nba commentary then the crap on ESPN and Fox

  • @nucl3arboNg
    @nucl3arboNg Před 8 měsíci +15

    Celtics pick up Dwight Howard and give him 15mpg off the bench.

    • @vikabudre
      @vikabudre Před 8 měsíci +1

      Or Bill Lambeer as a starter

  • @JP-jd8wr
    @JP-jd8wr Před 8 měsíci +10

    Man Jrue going to Boston was EXACTLY what I wanted as a basketball fan but what I did NOT want as a Dame fan 😂😂😂 I hope these teams are full strength and meet in the playoffs! I can't wait to see this match up. I wonder if the Bucks can add a wing or get something out of the young guys like Beauchamp. I didn't necessarily like losing Rob Williams for the Cs because that means relying on KP and Rob is an underrated passer and very high IQ glue guy offensively not just as a defender. I liked the trio of Rob, Horford, and KP together. I wonder if they could've given another pick and player instead of Rob? Both him and KP have injury issues but man I'd have loved to see them play together. I hope my guy Pat bounces back and finds his shot again more consistently this year because he was great playing with Dame in Portland and in his previous years with the Bucks especially during that title run. Sorry for the rant but man this is exciting stuff for the NBA this year! JJ if you see this I have a question for you;
    Do you think Middleton returns to full form this year and do you think he's now the x factor in this potential series?

    • @scourge8097
      @scourge8097 Před 8 měsíci

      No, they couldn't have. I didn't think Boston would make this trade because it meant they HAD to trade Brogdon and Smart PLUS Rob Williams or Al Horford. I'd have traded Al(and I'm not even sure if that trade would have worked, but it'd be really close money wise
      That's why I was kinda alright with losing Jrue to the Celtics if the Bucks had to move Jrue to get Dame.
      It's still a massive gut punch because he's just such a good dude AND lock down defender, but now the Celtics have just NO size and depth on their front court. It went from Giannis' nightmare in Grant and Rob Williams and then Horford was certainly a problem at times. But I feel like this will be Giannis' series to dominate. Porzingas is a really talented player, but he can't match Giannnis' physicality and he's got health issues.
      I THOUGHT Brogdon+Williams was better.

    • @TheHaagendazs0
      @TheHaagendazs0 Před 8 měsíci

      Middleton is done.

    • @scourge8097
      @scourge8097 Před 8 měsíci

      @@TheHaagendazs0 Hmmkay...

  • @znamor
    @znamor Před 8 měsíci +14

    Celtics got another backup BIG in Gabriel from lakers. Brad will use tpe to get someone like Drummond later on! Go 🍀🏆Cs!!!

  • @gchris2166
    @gchris2166 Před 8 měsíci +19

    The Celtics are always making it deep in the playoffs and this roster is loaded I really like their chances in a series vs the bucks shi I’ll say it celtics going to the finals

  • @kevinklampe9362
    @kevinklampe9362 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The keague just got shook up in an i vredible way❤

  • @belakthrillby
    @belakthrillby Před 8 měsíci +3

    Swapping Smart for Jrue is a straight up upgrade for the Cs. Im worried about the Bucks Celtics matchup again 😬

  • @stevengordon3271
    @stevengordon3271 Před 8 měsíci +4

    They need a big center for the playoffs. Not only for 6 more fouls against Giannis, but also it is unpredictable if Horford will drop off or get injured.

    • @JulianIsAnthony
      @JulianIsAnthony Před 8 měsíci +1

      Hell, Porzingis has his own history of injuries. It feels like both our bigs can go out at any moment without a true safety net. Definitely something we need to address for the long stretch of the season/playoffs.

  • @protector_of_the_realms
    @protector_of_the_realms Před 8 měsíci +5

    I wanted Jrue anywhere but Celtics ahaha. He’s one of my favourite players and it hurt to see him depart from the Bucks, would’ve loved him on the Lakers which is the team I support, or even Clippers, 76ers or just any Weest team or East team not named Miami Celtics but now I’m gonna have to endure watching him on my little brother’s team and I think Celtics are the clear favourites tbh

  • @undercleavage
    @undercleavage Před 8 měsíci +3

    Rob had a 24.5% defensive rebounding rate, KP was at 21.8%, Rob just played fewer minutes so of course he would have a lower average. I don't think the rebounding will be much of an issue though, nobody is "small" on the Celtics starting lineup.

  • @aesirgaming1014
    @aesirgaming1014 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think Holiday may be more of a gamechanger than Porzingis. It's not just his ability to defend, it's how he defends and how he does everything else as well. He's an excellent help defender who seems to know instinctively just how far he can help off his guy and still recover (even when guarding elite scorers like Harden). This is key for a Boston team that may well be undersized in some key matchups (Philly, Denver, Phoenix, Milwaukee). He has a similar physicality and ability to create chaos to Marcus Smart, but is slightly quicker on his feet, especially laterally which allows him to stay in front of smaller guards (something that Smart sometimes would struggle with).
    Offensively, Holiday is a force multiplier. If he needs to, he can go out and get his own 20+ points, scoring at every level. But the thing I'm most excited for is his playmaking. I was pretty worried when Boston traded Smart because of his playmaking ability, which Boston didn't really replace (Derrick White isn't much of a passer and Tatum is still very much a work in progress). Adding Jrue gives Boston a PG with true floor general ability. I think that this could be a critical factor to bringing the three elite scorers (Tatum/Brown/Porzingis) together. If Boston can stay healthy, they are a force to be reckoned with.
    I would like another big man, given Porzingis' injury history and Al's age. I'd actually be very open to a Daniel Theis reunion. I always thought that Theis was a bit under-appreciated by Celtics fans. He was a positionally versatile player who positioned well for defense. He was also a greater sealer, one of the better bigs in the NBA at the time when it came to sealing off his defender. This isn't something that's tracked or talked about a lot, but it could be huge for a team with the Jays. By sealing the opposing big, Theis essentially created a much more open line to the rim. He's also a somewhat reliable spacer, which lets Boston keep their five-out lineup, which was their best lineup last year.

    • @aesirgaming1014
      @aesirgaming1014 Před 8 měsíci

      Also, as a Celtics fan, I'm not really concerned by Embiid at all. I am more concerned about somebody like Jokic. The difference is that Jokic is hard to double because of his playmaking. If you send a double at him, he's going to most likely read it and make the right pass. Even if you get him once, the same trick is unlikely to work twice. Combine that with Denver's other four scoring threats and you are forced to defend Jokic one-on-one. Embiid, we can double half the game because he struggles to make the right read and rarely makes the right pass on time and on target. If Embiid learned to make that cross-court read and pass quickly out of the double, he'd be an absolute nightmare to defend, borderline impossible to defend.

  • @darkragency
    @darkragency Před 8 měsíci +19

    The Celtics will hold their own defensively. People should be more concerned on how the hell anyone is going to stop that Celtics offensive!?

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Sag off jrue..why he got traded

    • @ProdwasaQ
      @ProdwasaQ Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@xavierb9061jrue probably the 5th offensive option on this team won’t be much need for him to be elite scorer aslong as his catch and shoot number don’t go down

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Před 8 měsíci

      @@ProdwasaQ bucks had middleton conaughtan allen who think teams sagged off

    • @Gunna3hunna
      @Gunna3hunna Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@xavierb9061 Connaughton middleton and allen vs brown porzingis and white hmmmmmm

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Gunna3hunna maybe youre slow...team full of shooters so left holiday open he missed he got traded. Going to do same thing on celtics.

  • @josephgreene524
    @josephgreene524 Před 8 měsíci

    Love JJ best shooter ever!

  • @uzi978
    @uzi978 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I'm psyched to watch this Celtics team play, I think they have a chance to have a special season. And some of these unheralded guys on the bench, like Fast PP, Lamar Stevens, Kornet/Hauser, and Brissett/Banton could surprise some people if they level up this year.

    • @Fantabiscuit
      @Fantabiscuit Před 8 měsíci

      Wait for playoffs where 6 players play most minutes

    • @uzi978
      @uzi978 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Fantabiscuit How about we enjoy the 82 games before the playoffs?

    • @Fantabiscuit
      @Fantabiscuit Před 8 měsíci

      @@uzi978 my point being, is that these guys are built for playoffs. With a light bench the regular season is practice. They ain’t going to win 63 games

  • @joshlitman8310
    @joshlitman8310 Před 8 měsíci +3

    My thoughts on Al exactly JJ! He is Tom Brady and I love it.

  • @willspinner2968
    @willspinner2968 Před 8 měsíci

    Immediately here!

  • @abelcano3723
    @abelcano3723 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Derrick White and Jrue Holiday impact the basketball on the perimeter as good as any players in the league.

  • @JohnBurgundy
    @JohnBurgundy Před 8 měsíci +5

    Tatum and Brown gotta tighten up their handle!

    • @YankeeStacking
      @YankeeStacking Před 8 měsíci +1

      Brown has no left hand, but NOW he doesn’t have to handle the ball as much. He’s better in catch-n-shoot. Brown’s gonna have an EPIC year thanks largely to Jrue (and jettisoning Smart!)

  • @G_Anonymous123
    @G_Anonymous123 Před 8 měsíci

    That’s hilarious because I caught that too, about “the illusion” of someone who could step out & knock down a shot. 😂

  • @juanpabloundagarcia2865
    @juanpabloundagarcia2865 Před 8 měsíci +1

    It is amazing the difference between this great analysis and the oversimplified and bad analysis steven a did in FT. Great talk guys

  • @timmarcos7411
    @timmarcos7411 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I love Jrue Holiday’s game however as a Celtics fan the loss of Robert Williams hurts. The perimeter defense is an immediate upgrade yes, but the interior defense from Rob having more blocks than missed shots, can grab every rebound offensive and defensive. Rob was our anchor. And I can’t help but feel adding Jrue is nice but the con of losing what Rob adds may outweigh the pros of Jrue. We are stacked at PG already between Derrick, PP, Jrue. If we go two guards Brown is a better 2 than a 3 and Tatum plays the 3 better than the 4.

  • @kevinklampe9362
    @kevinklampe9362 Před 8 měsíci

    Incredible

  • @okiedokie2557
    @okiedokie2557 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Celtics need to go get Dwight Howard

  • @wedabestradi096
    @wedabestradi096 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Lmao the Luke kornett slander is uncalled for

  • @arnold17
    @arnold17 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I'm hoping for Dwight. He still has the athleticism to replace some of what Rob brought in terms of lob threat and shot blocking and having him as a big body for a possible matchup with Jokic and Embiid would be nice.

    • @j00bert
      @j00bert Před 8 měsíci

      lol

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci

      Everyone Forgets KP owns Jokic and Embiid also giannis.

  • @matthewspanner6232
    @matthewspanner6232 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I’m going to say it now . The Boston Celtics have the highest probability of winning a chip than I’ve ever seen before . This roster is that incredible . The capability for defensive plays and the shooting is out of this world . I can see Boston winning. That’s if the bucks don’t go off as well. The heat as always dismantle the most high so I’m not counting them out either . Spo is the best coach in the nba .

  • @paychexx
    @paychexx Před 8 měsíci +1

    Jrue vs Dame match up will be fun...

  • @marcuslewis7888
    @marcuslewis7888 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Jrue was 6’3 with the pelicans in 2k now he’s 6’5😂

  • @No-xo1kx
    @No-xo1kx Před 8 měsíci +4

    Look I get Derrick White but I think Bridges is a pretty damn good point of attack defender

    • @ryanb9305
      @ryanb9305 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Last 2 seasons for a Guard Derrick has been #2 and #1 in blocks

  • @sGzBugz
    @sGzBugz Před 8 měsíci

    as a celtics fan as soon as jrue got traded to the blazers i knew brad was gonna go get him and im so happy he did man

  • @xavierb9061
    @xavierb9061 Před 8 měsíci +7

    holiday held liliard to 18pts on 35% and swept th3 blazers last time met in playoffs.

    • @darklordphantom4870
      @darklordphantom4870 Před 8 měsíci

      Prime Ad and rondo to help made it easier to defend lillard for jrue. He also had no one to help him in that series other than cj who is average. If it iso ball then he getting cook just like jimmy cook him. Go rewatch the series instead of reading stats. Double and triple team on dame through out that whole series. Cant do it no more with giannis middleton and brook there.

  • @jackgreenway4679
    @jackgreenway4679 Před 8 měsíci

    How do you feel about them getting Wenydon Gabriel they also have O’Shea Brissett good serviceable bench players. Gabriel who can play some small ball center.

  • @alexvoskanian3265
    @alexvoskanian3265 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Shout out to Kornet man, the long contest works 7/10 times and the leagues sleeping on that move!

  • @Muiiirr
    @Muiiirr Před 8 měsíci

    All I know is I’m excited ☘️

  • @Soullja777
    @Soullja777 Před 8 měsíci

    So is dunkers spot not on youtube anymore?

  • @malcolmguest117
    @malcolmguest117 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Getting jrue holiday is a chest move

  • @Snoopdad-zw4mz
    @Snoopdad-zw4mz Před 7 měsíci

    I loved Marcus for his heart and hustle, and his offense improved his last few years but he could be super streaky offensively and not the guy you want taking a last crucial shot.

  • @BFCNick
    @BFCNick Před 8 měsíci

    I think they have a lot more balance and continuity than they've had in the past, as well as a good recent vein of post season form, so I certainly won't bet against them.
    I'm still not sold because of their history of being susceptible to high expectations.

  • @elirane85
    @elirane85 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Celtics and Bucks in the east, Warriors, Nuggets and Phoenix in the west, damn, that's gonna be an awesome season

    • @mitchtherevolution
      @mitchtherevolution Před 8 měsíci +4

      Great time to take a second, reflect, and laugh at Philadelphia.

    • @thedarkfrost2351
      @thedarkfrost2351 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Lakers are better than warriors and Phoenix lol

    • @okiedokie2557
      @okiedokie2557 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Warriors aren't making it past the first round. Lakers, kings, suns, nuggets, clippers(if healthy), Mavericks

    • @mitchtherevolution
      @mitchtherevolution Před 8 měsíci

      @@okiedokie2557
      Down on the Warriors and up on the Kings?
      I don't see either one of them making it past the second round at best, but the Warriors would handle the Kings in the first round.
      They literally just did that last year.

    • @Samurai31631
      @Samurai31631 Před 8 měsíci

      Warriors??? Hahahaha. 😂

  • @byrondemaker
    @byrondemaker Před 8 měsíci

    Celtics vs. Bucks are going to be amazing games.

  • @LilG511
    @LilG511 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I think that the most fun games to watch will be the regular season games between the Bucks and Celtics because I know Dame is going to take some wacky shots and Tatum just shot chucks

    • @n8tethegr8t20
      @n8tethegr8t20 Před 8 měsíci

      tatum shoots well against the bucks in the regular season, he average over 35ppg the 2 and half season worth of games against the bucks

  • @ainnocent
    @ainnocent Před 8 měsíci +1

    Super random but does anyone peep how close JJ is to a milly? Insane growth

  • @Bretde1
    @Bretde1 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Their depth is not nearly as thin as people are making it out to be. They can still obviously add some pieces if need be.
    Jrue / Pritchard
    White / Banton
    Brown / Stevens / Hauser / Walsh
    Tatum / Al / Brissett
    Kristaps / Gabriel / Kornet
    I think that Gabriel is capable of filling a bit of the void that Rob left and I'm sure they may look for a vet guard. But my goodness are they loaded. These matchups are a two way street. Sure bigger teams might be able to do some work inside and Giannis / Embiid are tough matchups. But those teams are going to have to guard the celtics too. Boston at least has pieces to slow down Dame and Giannis. Who are they going to put on Brown, Jrue and Tatum?

    • @Mist_R
      @Mist_R Před 8 měsíci

      Totally agree. People are ignoring how good of acquisitions Brisett and Banton are, who I think very well fits the Celtics' identity

  • @daanno2
    @daanno2 Před 8 měsíci

    you know you're amongst bball nerds when someone talking about "enjoy watching these two slither across screens"

  • @ImBarryScottCSS
    @ImBarryScottCSS Před 8 měsíci +6

    The Celtics lineup is scary on paper, but we have seen a lot of teams like this before (Flippers, Nets, Suns...). We gotta see if they actually work together as a unit but it's definitely a super high ceiling, I think they've had a great summer and the front office can't really be taking the blame anymore, it's up to the boys on the floor to make it happen.

    • @tylerdavis6919
      @tylerdavis6919 Před 8 měsíci +1

      agreed. but either way, defensively, they are going to be a top team.

  • @xPiratex_
    @xPiratex_ Před 8 měsíci

    DROP THE JOE EP NOWWWWW

  • @culo9999
    @culo9999 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I;m furious the Knicks couldn't get Jrue. He was too valuable an asset for too many teams in the east. Bulls, Heat, Philly, Raptors, and of course, Celtics would have all obviously benefitted greatly from his presence, so I felt like the Knicks needed to be aggressive. Something like Barrett, Hartenstein, two firsts. They would have still had the assets for the big superstar move if it becomes available...now the Celtics basically turned Smart to Holiday and Williams to Porzingis and all they had to give up was Brogdan, who was possibly too injured to trade and the reason they gave up Smart in the first place? Don't get me wrong, I'm a salty Knicks fan, but come on!

    • @jaydell4039
      @jaydell4039 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yeah trade a 23 year old for a 33 year old that says he will retire in like 2 years. Yeah that makes sense. Also they still doesn’t make the Knicks a contender because they not getting past Boston or The bucks

  • @211ay
    @211ay Před 8 měsíci +1

    they gotta do something about those backgrounds like fr

  • @seanaes
    @seanaes Před 8 měsíci +1

    CELTICS WILL FINALLY REACH THAT TITLE LETS GOOO

  • @daoneeyedking
    @daoneeyedking Před 8 měsíci

    7:11 OMG My man just gently ETHERed Luke "The Green" Kornet . Why god? Why?

  • @chriscote601
    @chriscote601 Před 8 měsíci

    “AL HORFORD IS GUNNA BE THE NEXT TON BRADY” ☘️☘️

  • @kevinklampe9362
    @kevinklampe9362 Před 8 měsíci

    Lets hear ut JJ!❤

  • @borisfrlic
    @borisfrlic Před 8 měsíci

    Nuggets happy for balance in East.
    That’s a hard-fought 6-7 game series in the east final.

  • @Ziddy2349
    @Ziddy2349 Před 8 měsíci

    Im listening to guys talk about Time Lord as a defensive rebounder lol.. do these guys watch? He was a bottom tier defensive rebounder and the best on the offensive class and second chance points. Not mentioned once

  • @josevaldez4033
    @josevaldez4033 Před 8 měsíci +2

    When the bucks herd jrue went to the Celtics. It hurt them more then when my ex started dating my friend 😂😂😂

  • @brycenewsom9246
    @brycenewsom9246 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Personally think Jordan Walsh could fill some Grant Williams minutes for those guys

  • @4evahodlingdoge226
    @4evahodlingdoge226 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Celtics basically got a better version of Marcus Smart and converted Robert Williams to Porzingis, if KP is healthy the Celtics will be dangerous, however, Bucks just got a major upgrade to fill their biggest hole which was shot creation and i think they're destined to reach the finals.

    • @danielperry6557
      @danielperry6557 Před 8 měsíci +1

      It was their biggest hole now its perimiter defense. Who's guarding Tatum or brown now. 🤷‍♂️

    • @4evahodlingdoge226
      @4evahodlingdoge226 Před 8 měsíci

      @@danielperry6557 Tatum and Brown are chuckers, not like Jrue by himself was locking down 2 guys nor is Dame's job to guard 2 wings when he's a p.g.

    • @danielperry6557
      @danielperry6557 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@4evahodlingdoge226 who is dame guarding jrue? Lol he'll post him up and bully ball him. And Tatum chucks as u say against mil because u had holiday. Now his game will be fully open.

    • @4evahodlingdoge226
      @4evahodlingdoge226 Před 8 měsíci

      @@danielperry6557 Tatum will shoot 40% from the field and shot bad shots like he always does in the playoffs, he's nothing to worry about and we know Brown chokes under pressure.

    • @danielperry6557
      @danielperry6557 Před 8 měsíci

      @@4evahodlingdoge226 not against Milwaukee🤣😂 they can't stop either of them. Have fun.

  • @curtisthompson8687
    @curtisthompson8687 Před 8 měsíci +6

    To be honest I wanted my lakers to get him I didn’t use to be a fan of jure until I actually sat down and watch his game and how he plays he a good pick up for Celtics tbh and for Robert Williams I want be surprise if they pick up Howard

    • @cortrellhonor8839
      @cortrellhonor8839 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I literally was just saying this . Howard would be perfect

  • @bryantlynch4317
    @bryantlynch4317 Před 8 měsíci

    Essentially they replaced smart with Jrue (better on offense no drop off on defense) and Rob with Kristaps (better offense, better rebounding, no drop off from rim protection)
    Unsure if anyone realized but KP has been top 10 in blocks damn near every healthy season.

  • @thecryptkeeper5
    @thecryptkeeper5 Před 8 měsíci

    Al gets Gannis just like last year with Pingus coming in as the helper. With his size he can force worse shot selection. and maybe keep him a foot or two further from the rim. Drop his %.

  • @smoovegang3796
    @smoovegang3796 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What’s the difference between Marcus smart & jrue holiday defensive wise?

    • @frz_-
      @frz_- Před 8 měsíci +1

      Marcus is better at team defense(rotations awareness and offball activity) and organizing the defense
      Jrue is a better man defender

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 8 měsíci

      @@frz_- Celtics problem has always been offense. Marcus makes a lot of dumb fouls which hurts the offense cause then the other team gets free throws and can set up their defense. Marcus always does this when the Cletics are on scoring run.

  • @MSJ860
    @MSJ860 Před 8 měsíci +6

    Losing rob sucks. But remember I’m pretty sure he only played 37 games last year. The year before that he was hurt and had surgery. The Cs drafted him outta Texas knowing his knees were a problem. The Cs can’t depend on Rob. This all hinges on Tatum taking that next step. It’s gonna happen. Just is it this year or the following 2. Brad and ownership are banking on this year with the moves. As a Cs fan I love it!!!!! Love Danny Ainge but F the draft picks. Trade those friggin things. Brad see’s something he wants he goes and gets it. Danny held on to draft picks and players he drafted like they were his own kids.

    • @izfason1
      @izfason1 Před 8 měsíci

      So true. Was fun and exciting watching guys like Romeo Longford, Guerschon Yabussele, Semi Ojeleye, and James Young make plays now and again and occasionally contribute but it just never really seemed like any pick that was lower end of the lottery or later never really planned out in the long haul or lived up to the level of contribution we hoped to see even in the better moments

    • @Mist_R
      @Mist_R Před 8 měsíci

      Different eras. Danny was there during the rebuild so picks. Now they're contending, so they have to go all in on the present

  • @mrfatuchi
    @mrfatuchi Před 8 měsíci +3

    Unless all teams are counting on Nuggets getting injured, they are winning again. All small ball teams looked so ridiculous trying to guard them. Honestly Minnesota with their two 7 footers looked the best at times. Okay you arent getting a big men to counteract some of the Jokic offensive arsenal or rebounding, then get some big PFs or SFs. This is why I dont respect modern Nba as much and Nuggets expose it nicely. If you put any of the other top teams against any of the great teams of the past they will get obliterated in the paint and on the boards.

  • @STECHGUY
    @STECHGUY Před 8 měsíci

    Tatum can cook offensively at the 4. You break through the Celtics front court fine you get 2's. Cs are gonna light you up from three. This is crazy...

  • @rashaudreece383
    @rashaudreece383 Před 8 měsíci +1

    when is pop coming on

  • @cheeser9530
    @cheeser9530 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Celtics big 4 is crazy

  • @dragonslayerthegod9284
    @dragonslayerthegod9284 Před 8 měsíci

    Not even tryna gas us up but when you really think about it….with the jays and D white building upon the strides they made last season, jrue who’s DEFF gonna fit in seamlessly. Then if kp can stay healthy, build Upon his own strides on defense he made (because he’s easily gonna outscore anything Muscala & Timelord put up together)
    Hopefully Hauser can keep that shot fallin, the rooks can find a lil niche,
    ATP anything Al got left in the tank is just a luxury!
    This team really could be scary .

  • @robertfoster6940
    @robertfoster6940 Před 8 měsíci +15

    Giving up Robert Williams is going to hurt the Celtics big time. Especially w/ Smart gone. Holiday fills the Smart void but Williams will def be missed

    • @robertfoster6940
      @robertfoster6940 Před 8 měsíci

      @@joeparziale685 👍🏻

    • @corpr8dystopia778
      @corpr8dystopia778 Před 8 měsíci +5

      ​@joeparziale685 yeah, he's a liability at this point. C's were happy to let him go while he was worth something on the street.

    • @_XAV_
      @_XAV_ Před 8 měsíci +6

      We got KP who’s better. I don’t understand why people are worrying about the center position when Rob was barely healthy.

    • @augustmoon0004
      @augustmoon0004 Před 8 měsíci

      Holiday is like Smart on D, but is a better scorer and commits less dumb turnovers!!

    • @33crushman
      @33crushman Před 8 měsíci +1

      Grant and Rob anchored that defense that got them to the Finals. Kristaps is completely trash and very injury prone. Jrue is good player but his playoff stats the last three years are garbage.