WILLY WONKA: The REAL Evil Plan (Theory)
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Many theories have gone out, stating that Willy Wonka is making the kids he takes, into CHOCOLATE. I personally, don’t believe it at all. But I do believe that there is certainly a larger plan that Wonka is following. A plan that was somewhat hidden in the film. So today, I’m going to explain that full plan. You might’ve already thought of this, or thought it was obvious, but this is for those who didn’t know about it.
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Also take into account Charlie was the only one without an interview.
veruca didnt have an interview IIRC
The book is different he has reporters flood his house
yeah true but its different in the books
idk it doesn’t make sense though
They didn’t have time. It was the next day
“oddly large pipes fit for a fattie” had me rolling
Jared Schwartz literally as he said it I read your comment 😂
Jared Schwartz BRO 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that had me dead
JAYc official me to 😂
I bet she was piping mad about that remark, lol. She wasnt a pipsqeak she was a pipesqweak.
ye and hear mii out got me rolling lol
The older I get the more I realize Willy Wonka is a complete psychopath
I like the 2005 one too
YEP
Same
Always found him hella creepy
You think this is psychotic, you should see the musical.
I like the line where he says "no stop come back" so sarcastically
Help
Police
*Murder*
No
Don’t
Stop
Yooo I’ve quoted that like my whole life when I wanna unenthusiastically tell someone to come back not even thinking about what it’s from lmao! It’s so sarcastic
Stop, dont come back.
Given the video, it makes perfect sense. The brats also deserve it though. 😈
This movie is like the children version of the Saw
Ecofairy this movie was made years before saw
Ashu Prak And children are younger than adults.
Do sense another charlie and the chocolate factory theory hmmmm
Oh God!!!!!!!!
You mean saw is the adult version of Willy wonky of the chocolate factory
"You'll see in a chocolate factory theres lots of chocolate" *well i'll be damned*
Prismen hahaha
Wow, it’s a miracle.
No shit Sherlock.
well damn this whole time i thought it was shit
HHAHSJWJHSJWHA
Another thing, when they are in the television room and the kid is about to transport himself Willy Wonka says very very unenthusiasticly, “stop, come back...”
I always thought Wonka was a time traveler. Charlie is Wonka as a kid and all the children he invites to the factory were people who hurt him as an adult, so he time traveled back in time to get his revenge and teach them a lesson lol 😂
That's my theory...just like biff in back to the future, wonka gave himself the factory..coincidently biff..wonka look like trump..and charlie looks like a young Donald Trump..this is story about donald trump
Ozzy Morrison the heck
Me too!
That actually makes sense, Wonka travelling back in time to give his factory to a younger version of himself would ensure that Wonka would keep his business going for as long as he wanted.
I'm thinking what toxicnolos thinking so he's giving the factory to his younger self and Willy wonka from the tim Burton 2005 remake is Charlie from original Charlie and the chocolate factory and the Charlie from the tim Burton 2005 remake is a one from the future we haven't seen yet
Wilkinson might have dropped the coin for Charlie to find 😶
R O wow
Sounds like a plausible theroy. Which would explain why "Slugworth" was waiting for Charlie in the alley. How did he know that Charlie was going to go through there?
Or that other guy slugsomething
Yeah, I think he planted the coin for Charlie to find. I always assumed the kids were handpicked, and Wilkinsson planted their golden tickets. The rooms were specific traps for each kid. The contest was rigged so Charlie would win. I mean 5 white kids, roughly the same age, each find a golden ticket. Come on.
@@testodude your theory would explain why Wilkinson was always at each location immediately after the golden tickets were found.
Who else thinks Charlie and wonka looks like father and son in this
o_o that implies that charlie's mother was either unfaithful to her husband, raped by wonka, or worked as a prostituted and wound up pregnant before she married her husband in the movie.
personally i think it's the final one because her family is really poor. both of her parents worked themselves to the point of barely being about to get out of bed or not at all.
before charlie's dad came around, she was probably supporting them in this manner for most of her adult life, possibly getting pregnant from a client. assuming her husband knew her and was good friends and equally as poor, he married her out of a sense of duty and friendship so she wouldn't be alone raising a child and taking care of her parents.
if she was a prostitute, this means that could be the biological father of the charlie and monitored how she would raise him.
not always but often the poorer people are the most generous and humble as they know what it's like to have nothing and doors slammed in their faces.
charlie growing up in such an environment could /possibly/ ensure that charlie doesn't turn out like the other bratty children. other children, i point out, were often really well off. a billionaire, butcher shop owners back then weren't exactly rich but they were in need for nothing. the TV kid's father was a college educated engineer of some sort, so he had money coming in. the bubble gum girl, (correct me if i'm wrong) was just made famous by her record setting. this fame went to her head and her parents doted on her when she flashed the "i'm famous" card.
These could all be traits undesirous in an heir.
so he monitored the prostitute he knocked up and devised a series of elaborate schemes just to ensure he's one of the chosen to "inherit" what he would have been given had he been born under normal circumstances...
the rape theory applies to this aswell but i feel being a prostitute would be far less of a terrifying thing to endure mentally than a rape, as rape is a violation against your will and prostitution is willingly submitting yourself to perform sexual acts for money...
sorry this is long, but this really got my theorizing juices flowing
Willy Wonka is not a rapist and I don't think he's the type of guy to rent a prostitute either. I think it makes more sense if they had a relationship before Mrs Bucket as married but it ended because Charlie's Mum didn't love Wonka, this fits the bill quite well.
Willy Wonka has a girlfriend and loves her passionately, the girlfriend comes to the realisation that she doesn't feel the same way when she falls for another man called Mr Bucket. She tells Willy Wonka she loves somebody else and they have to part, this shatters Wonka and prompts him to throw himself into his work, shunning other people and ultimately becoming a recluse never leaving his factory and only having contact with his assistant and his workforce of Pygmies he finds much more agreeable than Western people. Meanwhile the woman discovers she is pregnant, her new boyfriend knows this is Wonka's child but still loves this woman regardless so they get married, Mrs Bucket has the child, they call him Charlie and Mr Bucket raises the boy as his own.
Hope that made sense, this theorising is tiring and it's 2am here.
I was thinking Charlie was his son too. People had pre-marital sex all the time. A lot of women were/are ashamed of unplanned pregnancies, so she married the first guy who would take her before she couldn't hide it. I would wonder why Wonka didn't take care of her and the baby considering his wealth, but they don't explain much of his early life. Maybe she didn't tell him or maybe he wasn't free to choose because of his own family. I still think it's super plausible that Charlie is actually his own child.
I am not a Penguin I like the idea concepts amen
Also all the other kids have a parent of the opposite sex while Charlie's male grandparent accompanied him. What up with that.
I know im waay late but, the way he reacts to the kids breaking the rules and getting taken away is very odd too. Instead of genuinely being shocked (Like a normal human would) he reacts with no emotion. Why? Because he knew it would happen.
goodest boi i think he’s a sociopath, he shows no real emotion
He's aboslutely not sociopath. Sociopath have struggle holding on to jobs or relationships since they are easily bored
@taburz blism psycho i can understand, but how is he a pedophile?
@@brutalblizz because of the way he looks at kids and captivates them, furthermore there's a particularly large comment somewhere on here in the comments section i wrote out like 8 months to a year ago listing about 11 or 12 reasons on why wonka is a pedophile using a psychological analysis breakdown and breaking down the red flag giveaways in the movie that point towards this, but i can no longer seem to find the comment as new comments seem to be added regularly. i'm hoping it's not washed away entirely
@@taburzblism3287 Well...back then it wasn't always really seen as pedophilic for older people to hug or be awfully nice to children. If that was the case, then the candy shop worker would've been seen as a pedophile as well.
Adding on to this, I think it is pretty evident that "Slugworth" was indeed following and observing the chosen kids. When he meets Charlie in the tunnel after he finds the ticket, "Slugworth" shows him the money he would give him if he were to get him a gobstopper. Then he says, "Think it over, will you? A new home for your family. And good food and comfort for the rest of their lives," which proves that he knows Charlie comes from a poor background. So yep, definitely right on that.
I'll take willy wonka's words to my grave:
"If you want to view paradise, simply look around, and view it. Anything you want to, do it. Want to change the world? There's nothing to it."
Words to live by.
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All to set Charly up to create the Snowpiercer train.
@@WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS lmaooo
Tattoos anyone?
Correct, universe is within.
Ever noticed the science teacher at charlie's school is teaching the kids how to make nitroglycerine ?
Yes I did.
Guy Reece I’m a dumb 13 year old what’s that
*Waltz
Umair Musa it’s a heart medication
@@bigtuberdong2189 Nitroglycerine is an explosive used as a main component in the creation of dynamite
I’m surprised that Grandpa Joe wasn’t brought up. Let’s not forget he used to work there years before and Wonka found out about his hard times and that also helped make the decision easier
That’s only in the Tim Burton version
@@camrose306 Right.
Grandpa Joe was lying in both versions of the story. He has never worked a day in his life . In fact, the remake makes it clear that Wonka has never met him throughout his entire career as a chocolate producer because the Oompa Loompas did all of the work.
@@Mikewee777 ?? Joe did work there in the remake. WIlly just doesnt recognize him because he never cared about his workers. He shut all of them out because he assumed they were spies. Wonka never got the Oompa Loompas until AFTER he had fired them all. In fact, we even SEE him working there
@@Mikewee777 In the retelling it's clear that Wonka DID have employees that included Joe BEFORE he found the Oompa Loompas, but due to espionage he laid off everyone and closed the factory for a bit. Later he found the Oompa Loompas and made a deal with them, they moved in to the factory, and production recommenced.
So when Wonka yells at Charlie in his office and says he doesn’t get the prize, he isn’t actually angry. It’s an act to see whether Charlie’s good boy attitude is genuine or not. Also, fun fact. Gene Wilder hated that scene because he became friends with Peter Ostrum and didn’t want to scare him.
What if Wonka is Charlie’s secretly estranged father who in fact didn’t die Charlie’s mother just told him that to keep him from looking for Wonka who didn’t want to be known as the father but wanted Charlie to inherit the factory and the work. He also didn’t think he could just give the factory to Charlie as it would raise too much suspicion as to why him.
Genius
Even looks like him
Rosiejo ! You would think wonka is too old to be Charlie’s father considering grandpa joe used to work for him, the factory must have been going on for decades.
Cliché
I could've sworn Charlie's dad was alive in the book. Maybe I'm thinking of something else, and this is some crazy Mandela effect.
Great theory! Totally agree!
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The looks on Wonka's face in the 1971 version are also telltale, even in small scenes in which he isn't the focus - almost as if he's happy one of the children he can noticeably not stand will be gone momentarily. The remake also makes note of the fact that Wonka didn't want "rotten children" (his words) to win anything - this same remake also makes note of Wonka noticing how poor Charlie is and makes it a point to offer him treats a few times. I like to think that Wonka believed the poverty-stricken child who had nothing but family and a heart of gold was more deserving than spoiled rotten children who had everything and 'hurt for nothing' in financial terms - he knew Charlie would be grateful.
A great writer should write a new story to be turned into a movie where Charlie is now running the factory and is looking for a new successor.
that's what I have been wanting
Of course there'd be some slight changes, but you know how most sequels have a similar story plot to the first
Soooo, Charlie and a chocolate factory , which came out already
Seth Allen did you completely miss the point in this comment? Lol hey said they should do a movie where CHARLIE IS RUNNING THE FACTORY. not a remake of the original movie lol
Gonk There's actually a Sequel in the Books called "Charlie & The Great Glass Elevator" where that's Exactly what happens, So that would be Pretty Sweet to see that on Screen. They go off into Space and fight off Aliens in that Book, No Joke LoL
Close ... but not quite. You see the reason Wonka knew what had happened was because it had already happened! Charlie IS Wonka. The Great Glass Elevator is a time machine that allows him to go back in time to his childhood and re-recruit himself! He is his own successor! Thus, the loop is a never ending ouroboros, protecting his legacy for eternity.
"no one goes in, no one goes out."
Ginger Ninja love this
Dig it. Interesting
its just a wonka vator
The problem with that theory would be that the chocolate factory would only exist in a causal time loop, never existing past the point where wonka goes back to recruit himself, or would stop existing in the past, only coming in to existence when charlie comes forward to claim ownership.
Theorizer: not the Tim burton 2005 one, the classic 1971 one derived from the book
2005 version: *sticks to the book in more aspects*
lmao my aunt likes the 1971 version more and doesn't know that the 2005 sticks to the book more. kinda an interesting test. people like to think that the older thing is better, even if it's not as close to the original as a newer thing.
But the 1971 version is still a better version
@@kobizarre2003 the book is better, technically
@@deseuryderia because something sticks closer to it's inspiration doesn't make it better lmao that's completely derivative. You can like any version better but to say the Tim Burton version is cinematically better is wrong. That isn't an opinion, that's based off film studies and character's psychology. Not to the mention the piss poor cast in the remake.
@@coldfireball6384 ok, but did i ask? ♥️
coincidence: *happens*
the theorizer: im gonna pretend i didn't see that
Any theorizer: *COINCEDENCE!!! I think NOT!!!*
Roahl Dahl would have been proud of you for discovering the hidden meaning of his book...
True
Except the fact you spelled his name wrong lol
kirby march Barcena a little late here but his book is really just an allegory of hell based on Dante’s Inferno
If the ball goes in the goal then it’s a goal
It isn't hidden.
GOSH I ALWAYS KNEW THIS MOVIE WAS WAYY TO SKETCHY
caitlin katrina s. Too*
Stupid
Same
I swear I almost died when he made Wonka's face look demonic
Follow up theory: Wonka wasn't mad about the Fizzy Lifting Drink, he was mad because his successor who he went through a lot of trouble to find almost got themselves killed.
I was just thinking- this came into my head when the Theorizer was talking about how the rooms catered towards each child’s wants. These children (and Wonka) can represent the seven deadly sins.
Augustus is obviously Gluttony, his love for food proves that.
Verruca can easily represent Greed.
Mike would represent Sloth.
Violet would represent Pride, and she shows this with how proudly she says about how long she has been chewing on the same piece of gum.
Charlie would represent Lust, as he desires a better life.
And Wonka would represent Wrath.
It fits. It just fits. No one can tell me otherwise. It fits almost too well.
Rhiannon Holland Wouldn't Charlie be envy? But then who would be lust? What if it's Wonka because he banged up Mrs. Bucket thus creating Charlie, his conspiratorial son?
And wrath is actually Mike TV cuz he's obsessed with killing people in video games. Slothfulness then goes to Grandpa Joe, fulfilling all 7 of the deadly sins with all 7 main characters
Augustus - Gluttony
Verruca - Greed
Mike - Wrath
Violet - Lust
Charlie - Envy
Grandpa Joe - Sloth
Willy - Pride
Sorry, but it doesn't fit. Wonka didn't show any wrath, and I don't know where you got lust from. Lust is strong sexual desire, which in absolutely no way fits Charlie. Also, you didn't include the seventh sin: envy
Not what lust means.. But ok..
You should do one on 'the polar express.' It would be interesting
I just remembered that movie existed
That's a good idea
That's a good idea
Cami .-. Yas please!
Yaaaaaasssss!!! Polar Express for life.
Do It. Do It. DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing that was weird, was Charlie found the ticket the day before they were supposed to go, but Wonka says I've read all about you in the newspapers. How would he have read about Charlie in the newspaper if he had just won the ticket the day before? Like who would have wrote the story. It's plausible the newspaper would have gone out the morning of the visit I suppose. Just doesn't seem obvious all that is happening in the movie.
"I don't believe he turning kids into chocolate" Hes turning Chocolate into kids!
Willy Wonka: the personification of St. Valentine's Day.
um
Bahahaha!
*the X files theme plays*
In one of his books Charlie is trapped in chocolate mold
So he's basically the pranksters of CZcams if they owned a chocolate factory.
Luis Romero-Cruz ...
no, more like Sam pepper if he owned a chocolate factory.
CZcams Pranksters won't give these children a lesson, they would most likely receive one theirselves.
It's just a social experiment bro!
Chocolate Factory PRANK (GONE SEXUAL) (GONE WRONG) (in the hood).
I died at “oddly large pipes fit for a fatty” omg 😂
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No shit Sherlock.
You're pretty
Se7en simp
@@Leahjones598 Yeah . I really did have a simple moment ..
Wonka seems like he knew EXACTLY what the kids wanted: Augustus: Chocolate, Violet: Gum, Verruca: instant gratification, and Mike: Being on TV.
What about Charlie, what did Charlie want?
I dont think getting fallen to a garbage chute is instant gratification
Doesnt quite cover all the 7 deadly sins but alludes to them. Gluttony, pride (vain glory), sloth, envy. Not so much on the wrath or lust but Charlie exhibits many of the virtues. Patience, temperance, kindness, charity, etc. not much more to see here other than the overlord testing everyone is ambivalent and morally ambiguous. Complete with his fake devil slugworth
Who remembers when they selled Wonka candy in stores
I think a few theme parks still do sell wonka bars, like universal studios fl.
me, i low-key miss them🥲
Them shits were 🔥🔥🔥
Sold
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The thing is.. why does Wonka care if he moves the focus off of Charlie or not?
Just bring him in... groom him to be the successor.. and that's it!
Wonka has no need for these elaborate schemes that are meant to fool the world. There isn't some secret overlord that he has to fool.
I'll answer my own question: he doesn't.
The plan is NOT to set these other kids up to fail and teach them and their parents a lesson. Wonka doesn't care at all about that. The only thing he needs these other kids for is to break Charlie down.
Wonka has done his homework. He knows that Charlie is very likely a great choice to succeed him. But he doesn't know everything. Regardless of the amount of time he has been creepily watching Charlie he has not been able to see him in a difficult situation. He hasn't seen him under duress. Wonka devised this incredibly elaborate plan to systematically break down Charlie's opinion of Wonka and then pose a black and white moral question.
He said it himself: He had to know.
Matt Cassidy maybe he wanted to be sure Charlie was perfect for the job.
you miss the whole point of the entire movie then... it was a test, Charlie wasn't supposed to know...
Does Wonka look like the type of guy who will take the simple way?
Matt Cassidy no offence
but that would be a boring book/movie
Phoebe Hunter I'm just infusing a little reality into the situation. I agree though.
I found this subject interesting as i too was obsessed with willy wonka's motivation and true plan. The answer to this question was very intriguing and sinister. In 1988, 2 years before Roald Dahl passed away, he conducted an interview with the LBC media in Wales UK. He was asked numerous questions, one which included what Willy Wonka's plan truly was. Roald Dahl said that Willy Wonka was symbolic of himself at the time, as he was depressed after his daughter Tessa was born in 1957 because he originally wanted a son. For 7 years he carried the burden of this and then wrote and released Charlie and the chocolate factory in 1964. Roald Dahl wanted his first child to be a son to carry on his legacy, but he was unable to achieve that and blamed himself. Willy Wonka's true plan was to have his legacy carried on by the son he never had. hence Willy Wonka was Roald Dahl and Charlie was the son he never had. Roald Dahl said he even became obssessed with the number 7 because thats how many years he stayed in a state of depression. He created the name Charlie because it has seven letters in it. He even said the original story was supposed to have 7 golden tickets, not 5. The everlasting gobstopper was supposed to have seven flavors and the original movie paid omage to this by showing a gobstopper with 7 different colors. Roald Dahl also said there were supposed to be 77 oompa loompas and 7 members of Charlies family. Because he was depressed, Roald Dahl mentioned he wanted death as a theme in the book which is why he mentioned the death of Charlie's father in the book as well as the details of what creatures prey on oompa loompas. Roald Dahl even wanted the death of willy wonka to take place, however he restrained himself and committed to writing a book people of all ages could read. Roald Dahl's depression is the reason why certain aspects of the book are sinister, especially when it comes to the punishment children received for disobeying Willy Wonka. Roald Dahl was also obsessed with chocolate which is why chocolate is the ultimate candy in the book and movie. There you guys have it. Hope this was informative and glad I wasn't the only one with interest in this subject.
Lork Lorkman ... well that's depressing
If he’d chosen 7 tickets he could’ve focused on the 7 deadly sins?
I know that was a surprise to me when I heard about that. Quite sad really that a certain popular like Ronald Dahl would be upset about not having a son.
Everyone's saying he's shallow. But many parents even today face gender disappointment. It doesn't mean they don't love their actual baby but they build up ideas of what this or that will be like with the child. Gender roles were more serious in roalds day than it is today. Boys were to take after dad. He probably didn't think he could raise his daughter to follow in his footsteps. Ideas like that were probably unfathomable. Even today when the notion that the sexes are "equal" and "gender is a social construct" is heavily pushed everywhere by everyone...
Mothers and fathers still deal with gender disappointment even to crying and depression. It's a mental and emotional attachment you create to that particular dream child. Putting bows and dresses on your daughter or decorating the room with Dinos for your son. Or having the "perfect" 1 boy a s 1 girl family and not getting it. Whatever reason people have gender preferences, many many reasons from something as seemingly superficial to the type of clothes you buy all the way to wanting a child that is the same sex as yourself, can pass on your family name, carry your legacy, like the same things as you etc. It becomes deeply emotional. Women nowadays experience it more than men because we can see the baby's sex as early as 10 weeks through a blood draw and as late as 20 weeks with an ultrasound. We carried that child in our womb
And in that time of carrying and hoping and dreaming and even imagining what our child will be like. It doesn't mean we don't like how they turn out. Just a little piece of that idea dies and so some of us (not me but I've known some) feel sad for the outcome. It's okay. And men back then certainly would not receive mental health assistance or psychiatric services. Shoot my granddad was much younger than Roald Dahl. He died in 2015. Suicide. Why? Because he grew up during a time when receiving psychiatric services was at minimum taboo. Had Mr Dahl gotten counseling or understood that he could still be fulfilled in a daughter he maybe would have never even written the beloved children's story we all love. Who knows? But maybe this story was therapeutic for him. And he expressed his sadness through writing. He probably adored his daughter. He saw his daughter in the character Miss Honey from Matilda. So obviously he loved her. It doesn't make the depression go away. Many artists draw from their pain. It's important that he worked through his feelings and was told enough to come out and discuss it. He shared his pain out loud. It seems shallow. But to many of us the reason other people are depressed seems "silly" and "insignificant" but depression is real pain that doesn't discriminate about how "insignificant" your hurt is. It still hurts. I appreciate his bravery and ability to draw from that.
Lexi the Lexiconist He wanted a legacy! A girl doesn't give you a legacy because she doesn't carry on your name! It might seem silly but that's how patriarchal societies work!
Fun fact: Rhoad’s wife said that Rhoad would’ve preferred the Johnny Depp version more than Gene Wilder.
i think u mean ronald dahl. not rhoad if ur talking about the book writer’s name. fun fact: dahl hated gene wilder’s version so much that he banned them from making the squel
another fun fact: they had to get dahl’s wife’s permission to make the burton’s version
@@saklee1777 whoa 😳
Whose Rhoad??
@@MrThedonhead The author of the original book
@@saklee1777 Yeah I mean Ronald. I can never remember his first name honestly
Fourth bird. By the end of the film, Charlie feels he earned the factory rather than it just given to him because he was chosen. Forever instilling a sense of pride & faithfulness to Wonka's work.
Additionally, Wonka spending too much of his life to be the best at what he does, now gets to be a mentor/father figure to a son he never had.
Wonka has the best marketing department in the world
Wonka is for assholes.
SOMEONE!...PLEASE give this man a golden ticket!!
Agreed. He should be punished
Lol
Jimpresh//Vloging and more why
Also the “No don’t come back” and “Oh no help murder”
Not only did he spy on the kids but he set up those rooms specifically for them. The Oompa Loompas were even prepared for the 'accidents' and had songs rehearsed
I've just realized something. Everyone hates on Grandpa Joe for being a lazy ass and not giving a shit about the other children. But maybe there's a reason why. In the new film, he used to work at the factory, and it's never said he didn't in the 1971. Perhaps...Grandpa Joe was also in on the conspiracy. When all the workers were sent away, Mr. Wonka could have let Grandpa Joe in on his secrets (maybe he was his most loyal worker, there could be many reasons why). Years go by, Charlie is born, and through some secret contact that the family is unaware of, he lets Wonka know about how perfectly his grandson could fit the role. Wonka has to test Charlie for himself of course, and this is where the fizzy lifting drinks come in. Think about it. It was Grandpa Joe who told Charlie to take them. Otherwise, Charlie would likely have stayed with the tour, and there would be reason for Wonka's outburst at the end. Wonka had Joe persuade Charlie into breaking the rules, and this way, Wonka could see how honest Charlie was. Grandpa Joe was never concerned about the other children. "Don't worry. He can't drink it all." "Because Charlie, she's a nitwit". He knew Wonka's plan all along. As far as being bedridden, maybe he could have known Charlie's victory was coming and saw no reason to work as he knew the family was in for a major change soon. Just a theory though, but I found that interesting.
Jeremy Cliff I like your theory, and it makes sense. Grandpa Joe could have been communicating with Willy, throughout Charlie's life, telling him about how honest and trustworthy Charlie was.
this is true
I think the other children were there to be examples to Charlie of how not to act and that there are consequences to poor behavior. Not that Charlie was a bad kid but just re-enforcing that bad behavior reaps bad results. Finally, who was Charlies father? I did not read the book. Did Charlie's mom have a job that was able to support everyone? Yes, they were poor but she is at home slaving away to cook for the grandparents not off at a job trying to earn money for their meager lives. Was Charlie's Mom involved or once married (potentially still married) to Wonka? Was Charlie specifically brought up away from the rich and potentially indulgent life of the chocolate factory to assure he did not grow up to be spoiled and self absorbed like other the children? I think this deeper than we think....
Jeremy Cliff
I actually fully agree! While there is more to your theory I have very close to the same theory!
Glad to see someone else piecing it together in the same way!!
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What about the Boat Ride? Charlie and Grandpa Joe are the only two who aren't scared by the Boat. Joe, because he was in on it, and Charlie because... Well, who knows? The only thing we know Charlie saw was Slugworth. What if the Boat showed each child and parents what they feared the most, while Charlie only worried over betraying Wonka's Trust.
There weren't 7 billion people in 1971.
That does not matter. It still is at least five billion in 1971
Just elucidating the obvious.
it doesnt matter if there was only a thousand people in the whole world. it doesnt change the probability of those kids getting the tickets because it was set up.
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Crazy cow please explain to me what joke there even was to get? they made a statement. i made a statement. you chimed in with a shitty retort. the only joke here is you
My theory is that all the kids had the potential to be good successors if you watch the scene when he meets them at the gate he seems to be analysing them and he continues to observe them all and that’s why he is so unbothered when they get hurt he at that point knows that they’re not the choice.
3:10 To be fair, the TV Room felt like the only one that was specifically linked to Mike. For the Candy Room, generally anyone who competed in the contest must be a fan of candy, even if they aren't gluttons like Augustus, and Veruca could've wanted anything and everything in the factory, it's just the Golden Geese were the main kick. Though that specific Gum Machine in the Inventing Room was easily meant to target Violet, I suppose. (Even then, that's a weirdly specific lesson to teach, compared to overeating or being spoiled.)
Willy Wonka has a lot of time on his hand. I think that Willy Wonka was studying the children as they won the golden tickets, while he was watching them on television he had the Oompa Loompa's building the rooms to test the kids. If you've noticed the only room that wasn't prepared to test the children was Charlie's.
I was going to say the exact thing
Before I saw the movie, thought Johnny Depp played an older version of Charlie from the original movie when he took over the factory.
@@PorkchopPete you don't have to be so rude
The second movie is a remake.
i thought so too
Didn’t pretty much everyone think that at one point
@@user-rh1rw2yd3u the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural ;)
My little sister was in a Willy Wonka Jr. play, which was adapted from this version of the movie, but one thing of note that they changed was that the kid that played Wonka also played the Candy Man (Which I don't think had anything to do with numbers of kids; there were plenty of kids whose only roles were oompa loompas, along with some who were both oompa loompas and, for example, the other three grandparents). As the Candy Man, he also gave Charlie multiple sweets for free, and at one point even tells him that he would just give him everything if he could. There was no Gobstopper subplot in the play, Charlie only had to admit that they had sampled the Fizzy Lifting drink to earn the factory for being honest, and I'm sure it was easy enough for Wonka to tell how honest Charlie was after all those years and use that as his heir's criteria, especially since he never tried to give him the "oh I'll pay you back later" excuse, he was always upfront that his family didn't have the money for him to always get candy with the rest of the kids.
Minimal vehicle space is so true! When they go through the Wonka Wash there’s only space for two kids and their parents. Wonka knew by that part of the tour only two children would be left.
FOURTH BIRD he sold a lot of candy and got LOADS of money.
Seecooty XDDDDDD
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Fifth Bird, plot twist: Willy Wonka was his real father, who abandoned him when he was born to take care of his factory, hoping someday he'll find his son again.
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pinkstuff789able P that’s that’s... THATS JUST DEPRESSING
fifth bird: get to use the extent of his company ability
Well when Mike TV goes on the platform to go inside the TV, Wonka said "Come back," Like he didn't care.
yeah 🤔
He was like, "stop, no, come back."
As dry as dust
Lol!
I’m sitting in my bed and it’s 11pm, what am I doing.
Omg wtf- it’s 11 here too and I’m on my bed
Same
Bro same....I’m scared
MaddnessAlert99 just came back to this and I’m on my bed...and it’s 11 Pm....
It’s exactly 11 pm right now and I’m on my bed
I certainty did think that it was his plan all along.Even as a child I remember thinking how calculated Wonka was.Wonkas ellusive personality always intrigued me though, he is one hell of a character
plot twist: everything on the video is correct, but add the hidden true agenda that he wants to leave the factory and vanish because of the slavery he runs... that's why he say "I'm sorry for putting you through this"
He's dumping the factory to avoid OSHA fines.czcams.com/video/jD83QaWy8LI/video.html
@@keithduthie Jeeze, don't use your opinion as fact.
@@keithduthie matpat's theory was really stupid
read the book, wonka actually rescued the oompa loompas and brought them to his factory where they could gorge themselves on their fav food, cocoa beans.
Oddly large pipes, fit for a fatty
I lol'd at that
I did also.
I was just about to comment about that lol
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Yeah lol
I haven’t seen this movie in forever, but I personally don’t think that Wonka expected Charlie to use the bubble room, hence why he gets to upset with him. He truly thinks Charlie has failed, and is angry because he picked him to be his heir and it turns out he was wrong. Charlie then proves himself to Wonka by giving back the go stopper, and Wonka decides that Charlie is worthy of owning the factory.
Something to ponder as well, the families of the children. Salt owned a Peanut factory, Beauregarde owned a car dealership, Teevee looks like an actor, Gloop looks like a restaurant owner. All close to what a Wonka was, a business owner.
What if willy wonka is Charlie from the future
WTF WTF WTF WTF
Arely Reyna Oh my god i used to say what if charlie is wonks son right???!!
Any Evidence?
maybe willy wonka didnt have the factory at the time or was too busy so instead of having a kid he couldnt take care of he decided to give him away so the poor family took him in, but he kept an eye on charlie to make sure he'd be safe and when he was ready to give him the factory so he setup the tests and shit so that charlie could get it after
Why does the factory have so many rooms? Simple. The factory is secretly a T.A.R.D.I.S
Strange how the Johnny Depp version is regarded as worse but it's actually more accurate to the book
I agree on both counts. I love how the new movie sticks more to the book. But I hated some parts, like the Oompa Loompas in the new movie are shit. just the same one guy CGI'ed over and over and it sucked. I really wanted to see the Oompa Loompas like how they are illustrated in the books.
Plus Depp's portrayal of Wonka was great in making him creepy, but he slipped from creepy to mentally unstable and scary one too many times.
Oh no I'm not saying the newer version is better because it isn't as good (especially when they had to add in Willy Wonka's daddy issues for some reason), but it's weird that the less accurate film is considered better when most of the time a film adaption is better when it's exactly like the book
I agree, but I think the reason perhaps is because it tipped a bit too far in the weird and creepy scale.
Interesting. One of the great lessons is that a FILM is it's own artform and ideally is expressed simply and with clean clear visuals. A book being literary is often much more complex and difficult to translate to cinema without often major revision. Usuall it seems to me though that where book and film can converge most easily is when there is the convergence of plot. If the chain of EVENTS is adhered to, the audience is usually pleased with the translation. It's often when filmmakers omit or change what the readers consider to be MAJOR events that the film doesn't succeed.
I think the original one is deemed to better because Roald Dahl wrote the actual screenplay
Nifty video, however I am going to give my opinion on one room, the Chocolate Room itself. I don't believe that the room itself was setup to trap Gloop, I honestly think it is his center of operation when it comes to making his chocolate, as it is the only time we see Wonka legitimately upset when a kid disobeys him. ALL of the others he just warns not to or gives a half-assed "no, stop." However in the chocolate room he's actually shouting for Agustus to stop, until he falls in. I just think that was the one room he would have shown regardless, being the center of his chocolate making empire, but also served the purpose as the glutton of the group wouldn't resist to do something like drink from the river of chocolate.
I always wanted a sequel showing what happened to Veruca Salt after she went home from the factory. She was the best character of the whole movie (after Wonka of course). Growing up with this movie it's such an important piece of heritage. I'm pushing 50 and I've so many memories of watching it while sitting on my dad's lap. He's now gone and I've moved away from home so I don't see my siblings very much at all. These classic movies are so very dear to people my age. It was a different era in the 70s. It was a family event when these shows came on tv. You couldn't watch them on demand.
I appreciate you using that intro theme. Snowy the Bear's Adventures was my CHILDHOOD!
SAME!!! And Super Granny. I have seen zero other CZcamsrs that even know what it is.
The Theorizer Finally, someone who had a good childhood. Super Granny was awesome too!
DJ Rarity I played all of the games in the series lol
The Theorizer I beat all of the Snowy Games, especially Space Trip.
DJ Rarity The only WildTangent game I ever beat was the original Snowy the Bears Adventures lol
This theory is spot on. No way Mr. Wilkinson just happened to be where those kids were. He knew. And the candy owner was in on it too. Handing Charlie the chocolate bar with the ticket.
That’s probably why every room except for the chocolate room looked really crappy, because the chocolate room was a real place while the other ones were made for them in such a quick time.
The really messed up thing is that Charlie wasn't the one to initially drink the Fizzy Lifting drink. It was his grandpa, someone who he looked up to and trusted. So when he suggested that nobody would notice it was Charlie would be influenced to do the deed.
Great Theory here's another 1!
Roald Dahl wrote to show us that imagination is the key to changing the world. Once you imagine as intensely as Charlie did at the start of the film. The series of events that follow are leading to the acheievment of this daydream/imagined act. However during the turbulent road ahead he must maintain faith in the acheivement of his dream. The book/film then displays the Universal laws that must be adhered to in order for Charlies imagined act to manifest. He must display honesty and integrity etc. The movie/book shows Mr Willy Wonka as a metophorical personification representing (nature/creator or Universe) This means he has no sympathy and at times appears cruel. This how life, the creator or Universe will seem to those who do not comprehend its laws. The lack of sympathy shown by Mr Wonka for the other childrens downfall is not because of their selfish acts but it is because of their selfish intentions. Charlie's breaking of the rules and being caught, show us that during the process of acheieving our imagined act. The creator of our world (represented here by Willy Wonka) is merciful becauase the creator alllows mistakes when your heart and intentions are good and will still assist you fulfilling your achievement. Thanks Roald Dahl !
Now this is a solid explanation thank you
That’s such a good analysis of the backstory!! 👏🏻👏🏻
It's funny because I always thought the candy man was in on the whole thing of Charlie winning....I thought he always say Charlie looking at all the treats but he knew he couldn't afford it as the other children and him being a paper boy maybe he had a friendship with the candy man and the candy man knew Charlie was a perfect fit. I always noticed how oddly the timing was....I always believed the original had an eerie or creepy feeling and now I fully understand why. I just always knew there was something more to the candy man than the few minutes he was on screen...maybe he's a under cover worker for Wonka as well????? Sad we may never know the truths.
Sammy Davis Jr. wanted that role _bad_ . I think it would have just been far too weird.
But I think Wonka knows what they like because he problaby read the newspapers or watched TV news and he saw like Violet loves chewing gum, Veruca is very spoiled, Agustus loves eating and Mike TV loves TV (but he picked the televion room but Wonka let him anyways) and Charlie is the only one who didn’t get a interview, but he was on the newspaper like “this boy got the last golden ticket and ran away”
The fact that He insisted on the hobble into the roll be the introduction of wonky so you never know if he’s being deceptive implies he knew
I think there may be another couple layers to the plan as well:
1. Hoping the kids WOULD succeed at his tests. I think Wonka wanted to see if they could overcome their own flaws. Maybe the first two wouldn't, but by the third or fourth he might've hoped they changed their ways after seeing what happened. Hell even Charlie initially fails the test due to pressure from his own Grandpa Joe to have some of the Fizzy Lifting Drink, which is why he's so upset when he has to say to Charlie that he 'YOU LOSE'.
2. Showing Charlie the necessary parts of running a factory through the other kids. All of them were, in a word, privileged to say the least. In a way, showing him his own future customer base. But they do also show him the other parts of the process: Mike representing the power of advertisement and television, the Salt family showing the factory process itself (and the need to properly care for said workers), and so forth.
Going on a theory marathon!! Love watching my childhood slip down the drain as reality sets in!!!
Luna Fox Yeah it’s interesting😂
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Dang. I can’t believe it man but I think I agree. The way I see it as that Wilkinson also saw how the other kids acted. When he went to Wonka at the end of the day, he told him about every single detail about the kid. Wonka decided to test them and probably the Oompa Loompas built them pretty quickly
Oh! Also, further evidence for the fact that Wonka actually wanted the other kids to fail was his passive way of always reprimanding them when they were doing things wrong. "Stop, don't, come back," etc. It's pretty clear that he didn't want to exert himself too much to prevent these kids from failing his test.
Its a good theory but your missing 1 key point. Has anyone else stopped to notice how much Willy and Charlie look alike? Charlie's dad supposedly left when the factory closed leaving his mother and grandparents to raise him. Another thing about the timing is how all of this starts on Charlie's birthday. Why does this matter? Because in multiple theories Willy is Charlie's father. Consider how much Charlie's mother despises the chocolate factory. Almost as if she thinks it's a waste of time. Perhaps because Willy became so much more obsessed with his factory than his family only to bring his attention back to them when Charlie had reached an age to be able to work. It makes sense. Or at least I believe so.
But Charlie's dad was present in both the movie and the book. He capped toothpastes until his job was taken over by robots. I could see it if Wonka was like some more distant relative, but considering he remained young despite the grandfather working there as a younger man, getting let go like the other employees and then becoming an old man, it's likely that Wonka isn't even entirely human, or at least different from the rest. In the second book, he literally takes them into space with his glass elevator and has intensive knowledge of the aliens and worlds outside of Earth. Charlie's mother doesn't hate the factory, she wouldn't really have given him the bars on his birthday especially since they were so poor. I can see how this theory might be plausible, but it does leave a lot of holes. There is a lot of information that is left unexplained in the books, so who knows?
Steph's Place 2009 And who is the mother?
No! In the first film he was DEAD.
Something worth noting about the other kids, Verruca was the only really bratty one. Augustus was quite polite and well-mannered, Violet was relatively sensible and Mike was just hyperactive. Those three just made the mistake of giving in to temptation. In the case of Augustus, his parents could be to blame for his gluttony, as his father was shown to be stuffing his face and even tried to eat the mike, while his mother told him to "Save some room for later" but didn't really teach him self-restraint.
I never really understood what was so bad about Violet.
Also, Charlie was just as bad, drinking that lifting potion. The original book didn't have that.
@@tell-me-a-story-obnoxiously chewing with your mouth open was a pretty big deal back in the day. Capital offense for the boomers.
After Gene Wilder passed away, I watched Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles, but whatever floats your boat.
People like to say that Mr. Wonka didn’t even try to stop the kids, but there’s plenty of evidence that suggests otherwise, and that he went into this situation with a “expect the worst, hope for the best” mindset.
Exhibit A: Based upon the adults’ reactions to his shenanigans in the beginning of the tour (the contract, the trick room, etc.), Mr. Wonka probably realized that even if he wanted to, he couldn’t do much in stopping the kids’ behavior without suffering the wrath of the parents (and the potential legal annoyances that came with it).
Exhibit B: When Augustus Gloop is caught drinking from the chocolate river, Mr. Wonka immediately tries to stop him from doing so (“Don’t do that! You’re contaminating my entire river!”) while Mrs. Gloop stands uselessly at the side and does next to nothing to stop her child from breaking the rules. Augustus doesn’t listen, and thus pays the price for it.
Exhibit C: During the scene in the inventing room, Mr. Wonka straight-up says “I haven’t got it quite right yet” when explaining the gum, but Violet *immediately* disregards it, says “I don’t care!” and snatches the gum from his hand (Rude 🙄). Mr. Wonka warns her not to eat it (“I wouldn’t do that! I really wouldn’t!”), but instead of taking a second to ask him why or heeding her father’s warning (“Violet, now don’t you do anything stupid.”), she eats it anyway, and subsequently pays the price.
Exhibit D: All he did was tell Veruca no, and you can tell by his reactions in the background of her freak out session that he knew stopping her was impossible, but he *definitely* wanted to take his cane and whoop her a- for causing his poor Oompa Loompas so much trouble (remember they have to handle the cleanup afterwards, poor things 😕).
And finally, Exhibit E: When Mike asked about the possibility of sending people by television, Mr. Wonka didn’t deny it was possible, but still warned him that “It might have some messy results.” Mike didn’t listen, and at that point (if you believe this theory is true, which I do) Mr. Wonka’s whole plan for Charlie was already in place, so Mike was merely an obstacle getting in the way and there was no reason to stop him from being stupid.
In short: Mr. Wonka did care and did try to warn the kids off of their bad behavior, but they were too stubborn (and their parents were too spineless) to listen.
WILLY WONKA IS JIGSAW! HE WANTED PEOPLE TO APPRECIATE THEIR BLESSINGS!
Oh heeeeeellllllll no that’s creepy
No Willy Wonka isn’t Jigsaw. Jigsaw is Kevin from home alone
@@dantdmfangamingrich9802 Why not all three?
The difference here,, is that willy wonka didn’t force those kids. Blame the parents.
Love this
He wasn't eating at the same restaurant, he was their server.
Apollos 02 yea to spy on him
when he ate the microphone top lol
Doesn’t change anything
It's amazing how deeply you analyzed this movie. The first time I watched this movie was probably 15-20 years ago & I never thought about any symbolism until now.
Very interesting video 👌🏾
Does this mean that Peter Ostrum is now in charge of the factory since Gene Wilder has passed away?
Even as a kid it seemed obvious Wonka was playing them. The movie's interpretation of the book was spot-on.
Also Charlie is the grandson of one of Wonka's old workers
The johnny depp version maybe, but none of that is mention in this version
Sir Aroun that is the newer oneb
Syed M no it is grandpa Joe said that he used to work there in this version
Arowyn Gardiner the grandpa never mentioned about being a former worker In the original one
Tyler Allen he did just watch it he said that he used to work there.
I find no flaw other than at 7:17 at Charlie being "chocolate-loving". Truth be told, Charlie really didn't care that much for chocolate. He did eat it in the film but he said in the classroom when asked by his teacher how much Wonka bars he opened that he really didn't care much for chocolate. Wonka wasn't concerned so much for his love for chocolate as he was his good heart, his pure and open imagination and his willingness to listen and obey instruction. If he was going to have a successor that could run the factory in the future, who he could teach and tell all of his secrets to and be help of to the Oompa Loompas, he needed a child that showed promise to be caring, truthful, and responsible. Ironically, a love of chocolate wasn't necessary. Just a love of wonder and pure imagination that he would want to share with others with his creations and through his factory.
I got an ad for chocolate. XD
Nice
Old Channel seems legit
Old Channel no one cares what you see and don't see
Old Channel your next
Old Channel Does it say " WILLY WONKA'S CHOCOLATE IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD, DON'T BELIEVE US? TRY ONE YOUR SELF!" and then you reach into the TV
wouldn't it just have been easier for Wonka to knock on Charlie's door and ask "would you like to apply for a job?"
seems like he would have saved a lot of time and money.
cloudsweapon567 LOL
What a shit movie though
I'm guessing he needed to know for sure that he was worthy of handing his factory onto him.
I have never understood this movie. To me, Charlie always came across as secretive and dangerous. What you say makes sense! 🍭🍨🍰
I saw Gene Wilder say the thing he loved most about the character was that you couldn't trust him. He doesn't have a concrete backstory, and he's so erratic that he has such a compelling presence, every little tic and nuance can help you draw your own conclusion. The thing I hated about Tim Burton's version was that there was too much Wonka, he was too human. The showmanship of Wilder was what made the character so fascinating.
3:05 Why did you sound like Willy Wonka when you said "Chocolate"?
Wait what he does
He Is Secretly Wonka
Cpt.Sprite yooooo
OMG NOOO you are so RIGHT
Wow he does 😂
The best Willy Wonka theory I’ve seen is that WW takes place in the same universe and is a sequel to Snowpiercer
Not a good theory
Very good theory
I like to think the other kids were also there as a cautionary tale for Charlie. Good kids can still turn sour if suddenly given everything they've ever wanted, after all. And all the kids had turned rotten from the same temptations Charlie was likely to encounter as Willy's successor. Charlie could easily turn cruel, gluttonous, arrogant, or obsessed with tech over the years if he was not careful. Wonka showed him what's at the end of all of those roads: foolishness, alienation, and ultimately self-destructive behavior.
I recently watched the musical and this is even more obvious cause they included a scene where Charlie sends Willy Wonka a letter when he learns about him from his grandpa right before the tickets and the opening is announced and then at the end of the musical Wonka pulls out the same letter to show to Charlie
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Tim burton...?
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wrong movie nim wit
I know this isn't a Tim Burton movie turd nugget- I'm just saying
santa hoe's no need to be rude.....
You forget, Why does he want Charlie to succeed, how did he find him so quickly, why do Charlie live so close to the factory in dismal circumstances?... b/c Wily Wonka wants to keep an eye on him, b/c he was spying on him, b/c he was protecting him, BECAUSE... Charlie is Willy Wonka's SON!!!
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well I guess I does kinda add up in apearence and personality
That would mean Charlie's mother cheated on her husband because Charlie already has a father.
They just got lazy in the first movie and made him dead.
Melissa Lewis think stars wars movies they said lukes farther was dead but was he ?
Future President Nice theory!! His dad is probably his step dad
"oddly large pipes fit for a fatty"
In the book there are still leftover seats on the boat, which is described as a massive Viking style ship. The Glass Elevator manages to fit the grandparents bed inside, not to mention the kids make it out at the end, so the movie seems to have invented (and brought upon) the serial killer theory itself.
8:35 that split-second helps the theory (no joke), like he expected a reaction