Forensic Psychology: The Real World of CSI

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  • čas přidán 9. 12. 2009
  • Dr. Jeffery Kieliszewski from Human Resource Associates presents on his experience in the criminal justice system as a forensic Psychologist. This is the first lecture in the 2009-2010 Psychology Speakers Series. See the full list at www.grcc.edu/psychologyspeakers

Komentáře • 207

  • @bidensson4643
    @bidensson4643 Před 4 lety +204

    The most reassuring part of your lecture for me was when you said, "to be honest, it never gets boring." That is one of the most important things for me, as a psych undergrad interested in forensic psychology. I too find criminal behavior particularly fascinating.

    • @josiemurray6767
      @josiemurray6767 Před 2 lety +1

      Don't like this guy my opinion but he's not for me. If he gives you the creeps usually a reason. He OK with you having a gun although might not be OK???? I'm no or is that just me ?

    • @husseymangtv
      @husseymangtv Před rokem

      Same . I can work on this stuff all day

    • @tjpetrecca4907
      @tjpetrecca4907 Před rokem

      Hey man, i'm genuinely curious where did your psych undergrad lead you? I'm currently a sophomore in my 3rd semester at PSU University Park majoring in psychology and have a heavy interest in forensic psychology. Any guidance would be great, thanks.

    • @he_who_got_mcmad3003
      @he_who_got_mcmad3003 Před rokem

      hey, I doubt you're still active since you clearly graduated with flying colours and are working an amazing job, but I have a couple questions about psychology studies or criminology study and was wondering if you could answer a few of those

    • @Michelina22
      @Michelina22 Před rokem +1

      It’s absolutely interesting, Criminal Psychology is what got me going forward with criminal Justice and criminal investigation as well, love it all. Forensics is new to me and I had no idea how much I’d love it ✝️

  • @erikamnesian2786
    @erikamnesian2786 Před 9 lety +78

    This video gives me great motivation to be sober.

    • @erikamnesian2786
      @erikamnesian2786 Před 9 lety +7

      Sometimes we need a hand from other people in order to see & be able to fix our issue(s).

    • @babyblue7731
      @babyblue7731 Před 3 lety +4

      hey bro, we love and support you. how are things????

  • @rachmaninoffenthusiast5563
    @rachmaninoffenthusiast5563 Před 5 lety +40

    Bless whoever added the subtitles

  • @peteronyangoonyoyo7552
    @peteronyangoonyoyo7552 Před 8 lety +118

    I teach psychology of the court under the field of forensic psychology and I find this video very instructive and helpful. I thank you so much for this great contribution.

  • @thebluehotel426
    @thebluehotel426 Před 4 lety +67

    I like him. He's as confused as me.

  • @danieljordan2285
    @danieljordan2285 Před 6 lety +33

    I'm currently pursuing my graduate degree in forensic psychology. This video confirms my decision to also attain my doctorate. Enjoyed this presentation. Very informative.

  • @shananagans5
    @shananagans5 Před 12 lety +15

    Wow, I am really glad to see so many people interested in this. I am a psych in a jail & we ALWAYS need people. Forensics is a great field, there are multiple diff things you can do. In a jail you do assessments as soon as people get arrested, often just hrs after they have murdered someone, deal with urgent situations in the facility ect. Working in a jail does have lots of ho hum boring days but there is enough to keep it exciting & it pays well for a psychologist position.

  • @crib4046
    @crib4046 Před 2 lety +7

    11 minutes in and captivated. A great speaker who keeps things interesting from the start. Thanks Dr Jeffrey.

  • @user-ks9zn9qz7y
    @user-ks9zn9qz7y Před 8 lety +117

    The dry jokes though

    • @badphish2435
      @badphish2435 Před 3 lety +3

      "I live right down the street. You're lucky to have somebody so close to lecture on the subject"... cause he ain't getting paid much! 🤣

  • @bastet5909
    @bastet5909 Před 4 lety +10

    I'm a Canadian planning to pick forensic psychology in future and the part where he mentioned Canada being "miles ahead" in research just locked it in for me 😆

  • @MsEnternity
    @MsEnternity Před 11 lety +13

    I'm taking a class in Forensic Psychology as my major is in psychology, and the best way to learn is to learn from the people who work in the field! Great lecture and I must say, I am happy to have a great teacher and to be able to learn even more from you!

  • @DontClarify
    @DontClarify Před 10 lety +93

    I'm a psychology student, this might have inspired me to become a forensic psychologist

    • @rogerjenkins7485
      @rogerjenkins7485 Před 8 lety +7

      +DontClarify
      I wouldn't go after your forensic degree until you get your criminal justice degree first; believe me, it will help.

    • @sschmid1000
      @sschmid1000 Před 8 lety +4

      I agree. I work in Acute Psychiatry Intensive Care/ Emerge. getting acute mental healthcare experience by becoming a security also is helpful for future psychiatrists. Get one on one with patients and nurses.

    • @tallbeauty
      @tallbeauty Před 7 lety +3

      Are you pursuing it now (2 years later)? I'm just finishing up my Bachelor's Degree in Psychology with a minor in Criminal Justice and watched this about a year ago. I want to go into Forensic Psych but the amount of school (and cost) is a bit of an issue for me.
      .

    • @alyssahenry1278
      @alyssahenry1278 Před 6 lety +2

      Kendra Johnson some schools have a specific Forensic Psychology program. I'm currently a Forensic Phsych major at Southern New Hampshire University and found many schools over the US with this program/major available

    • @womanxyz14
      @womanxyz14 Před 3 lety +1

      So did it? (After 6 years) .. fully inspire you?

  • @ytugtbk
    @ytugtbk Před 10 lety +8

    I have greater faith in the profession having watched this presentation.

  • @womanxyz14
    @womanxyz14 Před 3 lety +2

    So fun. Listening this lecture on a Saturday night. what a good date I'm having with Dr. Jeffery Kieliszewski.

  • @BODACIOUSBRYAN
    @BODACIOUSBRYAN Před 9 lety +31

    He kinda looks like an older version of Marty from back to the future.

  • @alfiebooboo
    @alfiebooboo Před 7 lety +41

    I'll be starting my undergraduate forensic psychology degree here in the uk in September and watching this is so fascinating. I hope in the uk it's just as interesting as learning in the USA

    • @ChantyBoogz
      @ChantyBoogz Před 7 lety

      me too! at Leeds trinity. Good luck

    • @alfiebooboo
      @alfiebooboo Před 7 lety

      Chantel Hunter thankyou and good luck also. I'll be going to Staffordshire uni :)

    • @sashabelle164
      @sashabelle164 Před 7 lety

      catherine w me tooo, I applied to Staffordshire, even though I live in London, there's not many universities that do forensic psychology in London 😔

    • @sashabelle164
      @sashabelle164 Před 7 lety

      catherine w good luck btw

    • @IsaacPurpleguy
      @IsaacPurpleguy Před 6 lety +1

      How is it going? Im very interested in the degree.

  • @Ankatje
    @Ankatje Před 10 lety +20

    I'm starting my master's in psychology in a few weeks and I plan on focusing on forensic psychology. This is a very interesting lecture, I truly enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing this!

    • @analumedeiros4317
      @analumedeiros4317 Před 2 lety +2

      How did you like your master’s? I’m thinking about it.

    • @hi-il7ug
      @hi-il7ug Před 2 lety +4

      its been 8 years, any updates?

    • @rianalee3138
      @rianalee3138 Před 2 lety

      @@analumedeiros4317 i am as well

  • @RemiRose1
    @RemiRose1 Před 12 lety +1

    Hi Jeff, I am currently studying psychology and planning on getting into forensics in sydney. My 10yo son has conducted criminal activity in the past due to a complete lack of understanding of how to live life in this world as expected. He is now a state ward. He now gets the high levels of intervention he needs simply to survive in this world. Thank you for doing your job. Justice needs to be accurate and fair.

  • @MsJessicaSkye
    @MsJessicaSkye Před 10 lety +3

    Thank you so much for posting!

  • @holycowbatman10
    @holycowbatman10 Před 12 lety +4

    I love the fact that this is on here.

  • @nikicoley1417
    @nikicoley1417 Před 11 lety +3

    thank you for uploading this... I love psychology and even though its not possible to have it as my career, i still study psychology as much as possible, and listening to many people and their differing opinions is extremely interesting and thought provoking. Thank You again

  • @erikamnesian2786
    @erikamnesian2786 Před 9 lety +6

    watched it twice, thank you & God bless you.

  • @TheHRMommy
    @TheHRMommy Před 2 lety

    What an incredible lecture! Taking a forensic psych course, and this was so interesting! Thanks for sharing

  • @augustema82
    @augustema82 Před 7 lety +1

    I really enjoy watching this show.thank u for share it with us.

  • @taiya001
    @taiya001 Před 11 lety +3

    Wish I could get my hands on those slides. :D Thank you for posting this. It is soo much easier to learn by audio for me. Reading can only get me halfway there.

  • @angieg4803
    @angieg4803 Před 11 lety +8

    This lecture is so informative. I am a Criminal Justice major, I already have my Associate's. I want to get into the Prison system not as a Psychiatrist though.

  • @1jap334
    @1jap334 Před 11 lety +1

    Thanks so much for posting this. Helped me understand this field a bit more.

  • @davidd6962
    @davidd6962 Před 10 lety +9

    Having a substance abuse disorder doesn't make you insane and/or incompetent to strand trial. It merely offers a starting point for rehabilitation. Being clinically addicted to alcohol isn't illegal, but getting behind the wheel while intoxicated is, disordered or not. Furthermore, the disorder in question might make a man tempted beyond reason to drink alcohol, but the nature of the disorder had nothing to do with placing an involuntary person in the driver seat.

  • @einsteinzvice517
    @einsteinzvice517 Před 7 lety +9

    It took a bit, but finally found you! "Quincy" was my IDOL growing up!

  • @awnon5673
    @awnon5673 Před 10 lety +15

    This is a very interesting lecture, I truly enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing this!

  • @X0Melody0X
    @X0Melody0X Před 8 lety +7

    great lecture!

  • @veronikaj1089
    @veronikaj1089 Před 7 lety +4

    This is such a interesting subject.
    I would love to be a criminal profiler,my dream job. He is so lucky.

  • @MassIKofff
    @MassIKofff Před 11 lety +4

    Thank you Jeff for opening my eyes about forensic Psychology. I have been doubting about what path of psychology to choose and after your lecture I have much better understanding that forensic psychology is probably not for me. I had absolutely different thoughts and expectations before seeing your video as media present it in totally different way. Thank you !
    Stacy
    Sydney

  • @LuvRachel24
    @LuvRachel24 Před 10 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @JC-bg7pe
    @JC-bg7pe Před 4 lety +8

    There are MANY cases where "flashers" behavior/violence escalated to murder. One example is the Golden State killer.

  • @oldemailiamnotusinganymore7413

    Highly informative, intriguing, yet I had a real hard time hearing some of the questions that were being asked due to it not being loud enough when some people were asking questions. Am 3 courses away from a Bachelors Degree in Professional Studies with a concentration in Psychology.

  • @AbenakiNH
    @AbenakiNH Před 9 lety +3

    Fun listen...and yes, some misstatements of fact as pointed out by other previous posters, but he is free-forming for a class, not providing a training session. No quiz at the end of the class either. :-))
    It was interesting that he referenced OJ case, as demographically it is likely that the majority of the class may not have yet been born (1994). :-)))

  • @LoveAuntAshley
    @LoveAuntAshley Před 11 lety +2

    It really makes me feel alot better to know that sociopathy is not a mental illness and therefore a person who is a sociopath cannot be found as insane and incompetent to stand trial. Sociopathy sounds so much like a diagnosis that I thought that's what people were trying to do was downplay the persons actions by giving them a label. It's good to know there are questions you can ask yourself that determine whether a person is a sociopath or not.

  • @scarameow420
    @scarameow420 Před rokem +1

    I'm a junior in highschool wanting to take forensic psychology as my field of choice, I gotta say the Dr is really funny and this looks super interesting!

  • @tupacriz
    @tupacriz Před 10 lety +2

    That's brilliant to watch.

  • @JustineCarissa
    @JustineCarissa Před 12 lety +2

    Very informative! Good job!

  • @dharma_tour_
    @dharma_tour_ Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for posting this 💛💙🙏

  • @globalcliques
    @globalcliques Před 4 lety +2

    I really appreciate this

  • @Really377
    @Really377 Před rokem

    Thank you loved every minute!

  • @pennyp12
    @pennyp12 Před 11 lety +2

    Thanks, this really helped. I've been interested in this study for a while now. I'm only in middle school so, I guess I'll have a higher start...maybe. I love the way he presented his lecture. I'm taking notes on this and I have a question. Would it do me good to say study acts of my friends, family, teachers ect. and try putting them into particular legal Statues? Or do you think that would confuse me a bit more? Thanks~

  • @monicarodriguez297
    @monicarodriguez297 Před 11 lety +2

    thank you for creating this video very helpful, wanted to pursue this career but i really want to know from an expert do you enjoy your career? and another side question how long did it take you to get your Ph.D?

  • @kiwifashion
    @kiwifashion Před 9 lety +8

    Interesting on how many areas of forensic there are. Thanks for the insights. ;-)

  • @allie220905
    @allie220905 Před 8 lety +21

    Jack Ruby didnt shot Kennedy, he shot Oswald; Oswald shot Kennedy

    • @typograf62
      @typograf62 Před 7 lety +2

      A new conspirational theory? Ruby shot Kennedy and then shot Oswald to hide it?

    • @couchcaptain9379
      @couchcaptain9379 Před 6 lety +3

      No, it's an established fact that Oswald was in custody when Jack Ruby shot him. What in the world is conspiration?

  • @apresthus
    @apresthus Před 13 lety +4

    Fantastic lecture, makes me want to look into forensic psychology after i am done with criminology and psychology bsc :)

  • @marklipson4428
    @marklipson4428 Před 9 lety +8

    This is wonderful, does anybody have a copy of this presentation. Thanks in advance.

    • @johnasee2049
      @johnasee2049 Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah, here you go
      czcams.com/video/dOBSYw4KjYg/video.html

  • @eMuleDownload
    @eMuleDownload Před 10 lety +4

    Is there a way to download the slides, video doesn't make much sense without being able to view them in whole.

  • @TheMellowGrenade
    @TheMellowGrenade Před 11 lety

    very good Lecture, very interesting

  • @baughk
    @baughk Před 10 lety

    Thank you!

  • @LiftRunPressWorkout
    @LiftRunPressWorkout Před 10 lety +2

    This is Very interesting!!

  • @guardianoftruth1468
    @guardianoftruth1468 Před 6 měsíci

    This was amazing!!!!

  • @vivianruiz-fumo5926
    @vivianruiz-fumo5926 Před 3 lety

    My daughter wants to be a forensic psychologist and is a rising senior in high school. As she looks at colleges, are there any that would best prepare her AND what should be her major? Of course psychology is what we are thinking, but we are hearing there are other pathways. Syracuse University has a great Forensic Science program that she would love to apply to, or she can major in criminology. I would love to hear your thoughts, advice. Thank you.

  • @1974Asha
    @1974Asha Před 10 lety

    Fascinating! Wish theyd sorted out the mike though, althou yr man paraphrases wat the questions are I'd rather hear the whole thing?

  • @marksyron9278
    @marksyron9278 Před 6 lety +1

    Yes, there is a show called Snapped and I live it.

  • @evangelistkayeabraham4782

    What a great topic...am working on it anyway..K

  • @grcc
    @grcc  Před 10 lety +6

    Hello Peter - you may e-mail the professor who spoke at jkieliszewski@grcc.edu

  • @xSilverPhinxx
    @xSilverPhinxx Před 11 lety +7

    I wish I knew a profiler, that would be cool.

  • @fugazifreezone9595
    @fugazifreezone9595 Před 2 lety

    I believe just the basic premise of profiling is sound. The problem is very few people can think out of the box and they account for the unexpected or anomalies.

  • @CynicalAMVs
    @CynicalAMVs Před 12 lety +1

    Dr. Jeffrey does additionally state that she was being prescribed medication beyond what was necessary to her. Essentially, she was under the influence to the degree of being able to be eligible for an insanity plea, because the insanity law disregards the length of a persons' mental state, but rather applies the mental state when the crime was committed.

  • @Docter6000
    @Docter6000 Před 12 lety +2

    wooooow i really enjoyed this

  • @dcaraway3809
    @dcaraway3809 Před 5 lety

    I work in radiology do catscans xrays before that got an associate degree in teacher education 42 and want to go back thinking forsenic psychology seems so interesting to me

  • @kuzeyk9289
    @kuzeyk9289 Před 6 lety

    Studied in the field of plants and all(life sci).will i be eligible to study forensic sci?

  • @kieran3415
    @kieran3415 Před 6 lety +4

    This is a great video but be realistic if you pursue a career in forensics only the best of the best get in and it's a extremely competitive area. You have to sacrifice alot and take a huge risk.

  • @traburd6747
    @traburd6747 Před 6 lety +1

    i majored in Alpena cc communications 1999 2000 full basketball lumberjack

  • @reeceb4622
    @reeceb4622 Před 4 lety +2

    A little wrong about the criminal profiling part. They actually said it was a black male for the Atlanta killings but the press didn’t like that (couldn’t accept it wasn’t the Klan), however I get his point that it can be inaccurate.

  • @DharmendraJohals
    @DharmendraJohals Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sir My Self Dharmender Singh Private Forensic Expert But Studiing Further I am an Indian andHelping Hand Of Indian Police

  • @blue4dude504
    @blue4dude504 Před 13 lety +1

    I'M INTERESTED IN BECOMING A CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGIST WHAT I NEED TO PREPAIRED FOR THIS.

  • @ulrikezachmann7596
    @ulrikezachmann7596 Před rokem

    Your lecture was very interesting even though I am not a forensic student but a mature aged person who has worked with a cross section of people in the health and the care sector. I have an interest in why people do the things they do. I have found with younger people that they are more often victims of crime and then go on to emulate the behaviours inflicted on them. There is little support for these people even in many Western Cultures and perhaps Northern European countries are at least more on the right track somewhat like Norway and Sweden. Alternately in the West nothing much is done when people go through the justice process only to behave worse and worse and cycle repeats itself. I do wander though why women often get harsher sentences for the same or lesser crimes as men. A lot of crime has to do with power dynamics. People do things because they can. We bathe so much in scientific jargon like fetishising stuff and give it the disease label. The Psychopathic personality is more common in men and is rather reduced in the female population. Just a thought. Quite often the same crimes are committed over and over until a total disaster happens and people saw it coming, just not the courts or Psychiatrists.

  • @jasonniles8326
    @jasonniles8326 Před 4 lety

    This is good for beginners of criminal studies pretty basic stuff but

  • @MrNicoleCherie
    @MrNicoleCherie Před 12 lety

    Is this in Idaho?

  • @evacazacioc3205
    @evacazacioc3205 Před 3 lety

    I believe in forensic physiology . Im amazed by the human brains! Psychiatrists just need interesting objects to observe, evaluate....

  • @Jicawa10
    @Jicawa10 Před 12 lety

    @sayNOEtoNOM where at?

  • @100Abi
    @100Abi Před 7 lety +1

    this is really helpful

    • @jefferykieliszewski9497
      @jefferykieliszewski9497 Před 7 lety +1

      I am glad you found this helpful!

    • @DavidAndrewsPEC
      @DavidAndrewsPEC Před 7 lety +2

      Although my training was in educational psychology, I have a deep interest in forensic psychology too. This is a brilliant lecture!

    • @DavidAndrewsPEC
      @DavidAndrewsPEC Před 7 lety +1

      So - the interface of your specialty and mine: the competency restoration programmes! Texas and Florida - the Bush states! Enough said! ;)

  • @MSEBONYSEDC
    @MSEBONYSEDC Před 14 lety +6

    I think I want to switch from being a forensic pathologist to a forensic psychologist.

  • @abaitedhook
    @abaitedhook Před 12 lety +1

    Hello, Jeff. My name is Rebecca. I appreciate your lectures and I also really appreciate your approach. I'm having an incredibly difficult time finding my place in this economy, although I do know where my interest stands. I would really like to talk further with someone who would be happy to give me some advice. If you wouldn't mind, please message me back. I am a bright, ambitious individual but I could really use insight from someone I hold in high regard. Thank you in advance...!

  • @nighthawk0321
    @nighthawk0321 Před 12 lety +3

    I would like to be a hommicide detective and im 12 so learning phycology of criminals and such are things that are important for me to know right?

    • @bellasandoval174
      @bellasandoval174 Před 4 lety +1

      Ur about 20 now. R u still working ur way to being a homicide detective

    • @JohnSmith-qu8gd
      @JohnSmith-qu8gd Před 4 lety +1

      @@bellasandoval174 he's in jail ...

  • @MyriadCharm
    @MyriadCharm Před 12 lety

    @sayNOEtoNOM Yeah, i'm also interested in where you go to school lol. Not many schools offer it in my state.

  • @jeffkieliszewski223
    @jeffkieliszewski223 Před 12 lety +1

    Hey ktm200sx. That's me and my lecture. You're way off, dude. At first, I thought maybe you didn't really watch the entire lecture. But then, after reading your comments again; I realized you're just not very bright. But, that's okay. Thank you for your comments anyway. BTW, I have definitely put more people away and kept people locked up longer through my work and I haven't really helped anyone get released early for money. Again, thanks for chiming in.

  • @theamvgirlx
    @theamvgirlx Před 12 lety +1

    @TaylorSwift645 I'm with ya mate! Except I'm 14.

  • @bluemermaid2190
    @bluemermaid2190 Před 6 lety

    Fascinating info. Thank you! Still trying to ID CA's worst serial rapist murderer, the EAR Original Night Stalker aka Golden State Killer. He has evaded LE over 40 years.

  • @RKTologist
    @RKTologist Před 3 lety

    journey into darkness by john e douglas is a real good book on first hand profiling of serial killers

  • @LoveAuntAshley
    @LoveAuntAshley Před 11 lety

    "Most states don't have a statute for juvenile competency so they have to rely on the adult statute." Does that mean that a 14 year old has to be charged as an adult?? They can't be charged as a a juvenile??

  • @erikamnesian2786
    @erikamnesian2786 Před 9 lety

    It's normal to make assumptions, that is profiling but to act on your assumption is not right.

  • @FishObreedy
    @FishObreedy Před 10 lety

    If your interested in learning more just ask

  • @douglasvaughn3614
    @douglasvaughn3614 Před 7 lety

    Jack Ruby shot oswald not Kenedy

  • @magical8013
    @magical8013 Před 5 lety

    If anyone is interested in some insane amount of knowledge. Feel free to contact me. I've done 9 years in prison. I have had first-hand experience with being around these people constantly. Now I can talk to somebody and let you know a lot of things about them. I will not go into detail,but like I said feel free to contact me. I'm sure it will be eye-opening

  • @bhgtree
    @bhgtree Před 4 lety +1

    The video title is not correct: CSI is forensic science not psychology. To be a CSI (Crime Scene Investigator) you have to study for a degree in science not psychology. Of course psychology, and its allied areas, play a major part in the solving of crimes, just differently from a CSI.

  • @SammyxSweetheart.02
    @SammyxSweetheart.02 Před 2 lety +1

    38:00

  • @d10scollections
    @d10scollections Před 12 lety +1

    It certainly is informative for someone who never heard a lecture of any relevant course BUT he seems to rely on basic knowledge on many topics.

  • @weirdgeek6801
    @weirdgeek6801 Před 3 lety

    Could anyone that's studying and aiming to be a forensic psychologist please reply to this comment? I really need advice on something so I would like to ask some questions

  • @kristeldoggvilhjalmsdottir8759

    Kv. gellan sem eyðir oft föstudags- og laugardagskvöldum í að horfa á heimildarmyndir og lectures XD tja og líka á daginn ;)

  • @susanarsoniadou3588
    @susanarsoniadou3588 Před 2 lety

    Should also study "How Liars Lure Their Victims".

  • @MsEnternity
    @MsEnternity Před 11 lety +2

    Have you never heard of the psychology model and legal theory? You are obviously on the legal side, but the goal of having a forensic psychologist in the court is to help or inform the jury or judge, not to defend the offender. Do your research before attempting to criticize something with your ignorant feelings.

  • @BrunoOliveira-mz9zv
    @BrunoOliveira-mz9zv Před 9 lety +1

    jack ruby shot kennedy?

    • @rogerjenkins7485
      @rogerjenkins7485 Před 8 lety +3

      +Bruno Oliveira
      Man; give it up; he made a mistake; so what; we know who shot Kennedy (supposedly) we now who shot Ruby; its ok, let it go.

  • @jerryward2779
    @jerryward2779 Před 10 lety +2

    what about the forensic of servitute to a made up autori t,would be very interesting.

  • @sarasindi7514
    @sarasindi7514 Před 5 lety

    Awwww so polite SOB😂😂