5 Genius Ways Players Outsmarted Their Opponents

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  • We are counting down our favourite ways pro players have outsmarted their opponents. Some of these choices were wild!
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  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagic  Před 5 měsíci +25

    🤫click here for the secret sideboardcard: bit.ly/3SkEwiA

    • @aidenchism8628
      @aidenchism8628 Před 5 měsíci +4

      SPOILER FOR THE SECRET CARD
      Phyrexian Obliterator also can be worked around with cards like breaking of the fellowship where you make another creature of theirs deal damage to it.

    • @ahuman7027
      @ahuman7027 Před 5 měsíci

      That 6th card is so good in that specific way :o !!

  • @SpiritOfLenin
    @SpiritOfLenin Před 5 měsíci +484

    That life gain counter to psychatog was insanely funny. Everyone in MTG 'knows' life gain isn't very good, so that specific counter is something most people would not think about.

    • @CasualCoreK
      @CasualCoreK Před 5 měsíci +40

      Right, you're used to fighting a deck that can just keep outdamaging your healing forever OR does infinite damage when it goes off. psychatog can't do either of those

    • @TheArcSet
      @TheArcSet Před 5 měsíci +9

      :) Honestly, that old adage is the main reason I play weaponised life brews.
      Did you know Black's 'Fling' costs 1 more, lets you keep the creature and gain life equal to the damage, now think 'Wall of Blood'. Or go the other way, 'Wall of Shards' so your opponent gains x+1 life each turn, while your 1G Kavu gains X counters per life, then swap your opponent's life total with 'Tree of Perditions' toughness and pay GB to make an X/X spirit token, equal to that toughness.

    • @shocker1410
      @shocker1410 Před 5 měsíci

      Like a bite? ​@@TheArcSet

    • @ih8people
      @ih8people Před 5 měsíci +2

      It's even more funny when Magic players see Flesh & Blood cards like Sigil of Solace for the first time (been there myself). "Wait, it just gains you three life at instant speed. THAT'S IT??". Then they see it being played in 2/3 of all Dromai decks and their mind just breaks :D

    • @MindstabThrull
      @MindstabThrull Před 5 měsíci

      I started playing just before Legends came out. During Odyssey/Onslaught/7th was the last time I really played a LOT of Standard, but I've always been a relatively casual player. I think even at that point I didn't really know that life gain wasn't good, because it did so much to counteract your opponent's game plan. But denying yourself drawing cards just seemed so bad so I really didn't have much interest in the Words, although some of them I kind of understood they might be playable - Words of War, for example. And during that Standard I was on Upheaval Tog (there was more than one variant, Upheaval was a more controlling build) and I remember Mirari's Wake coming out and playing Mirari itself and Cunning Wish and Elephant Ambush - and back then Wishes could get something that was removed from game OR in your sideboard, so you could copy the Wish with Mirari, use one copy to get what you wanted from your sideboard, and the other copy to get a previously-exiled Wish. So you could get infinite blockers eventually and at some point be able to make more creatures than your opponent had Pyschatogs and then you could turn the tables. I never saw Words of Worship get usefully used; its meme status came from combining it with cards like Nefarious Lich to turn drawing one card into drawing five... and I never saw anyone do that either. Great call by Toffel!

  • @enzomc5355
    @enzomc5355 Před 5 měsíci +339

    4:14 the best part of Throne of Geth is that a chalice on 2 counters a future chalice on 1

    • @ZovcDrafts
      @ZovcDrafts Před 5 měsíci +10

      Came here to say this.

    • @dimandore7633
      @dimandore7633 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Chalice cares about Mana Value / CMC, and X counts as CMC 0, no matter what you spend for it

    • @AlienValkyrie
      @AlienValkyrie Před 5 měsíci +80

      @@dimandore7633 Used to be, but not anymore. While a spell with X in its mana cost is on the stack, the value of X counts toward its mana value.

    • @Chubbies34
      @Chubbies34 Před 5 měsíci +14

      @@dimandore7633this is correct for searching or for effects like cascade where you have to cast it then and there. X is 0 but when you’re casting the spell the x is calculated into the cmc now

    • @kendrickvickers2610
      @kendrickvickers2610 Před 5 měsíci

      @@AlienValkyrie but wouldnt then a chalice on 2 cost 4 mana? 2+2

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 Před 5 měsíci +186

    I am old and I remember playing a monoblack Necrodeck against some random pile. I was able to cast a Necropotence off a Dark Ritual, feeling smug that I have been handed a free win. Then my opponent calmly played an Anvil of Bogardan that had us skipping our discard steps. In the old rules, since Necro forces you to skip your draw step and that the cards you draw from it are not added to your hand until your discard step, he basically banned me from drawing a card for the rest of the game. Good times.

  • @AlienCowThatMoos
    @AlienCowThatMoos Před 5 měsíci +71

    Rakdos Charm was my secret weapon in my Modern Rakdos Goblin deck back then. I ran four copies mainboard. It was the best card in the deck against Twin, Affinity and Goro's Vengeance. Even against other decks it was still a janky burn spell. Worst case, they'd stablize with some blockers and then it'd get in for 2-4 more damage.
    The best GP moment I had with it was against Elves. He made more elves than I could goblins, and they were all bigger too. I did the math and realized I was dead next turn, but my Rakdos Charm would kill us both if I used it. So I swung out.
    He spent minutes calculating the odds, checking the angles, looking for a potential buff or blow out, and finally blocked everyone profitably. All my gobos died, all his elves lived. And then Rakdos Charm for the win!

  • @soasertsus
    @soasertsus Před 5 měsíci +62

    omg Thoralf's trash lifegain strat is one of the funniest things I've seen in magic, because I know for a fact I would absolutely fall for it every single time lol. Even after being explained why it works, it still is hard to get my head around that it's not completely garbage, absolutely genius play

  • @Its_Eros
    @Its_Eros Před 5 měsíci +105

    7:15 the blue card in the cycle is Words of Wind, not Wisdom. It's pay 1 to skip a draw and each player bounces a *permanent* to hand. In my Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain storm deck it puts everything back into my opponents hands and loops discounted/free mana rocks.

    • @witchcraft2264
      @witchcraft2264 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Fellow competitive jhoira player spotted

    • @rubiusstudios5709
      @rubiusstudios5709 Před 5 měsíci +3

      yeah I was confused why one of them was an instant and didn't follow the cycle at all lol

    • @auberry8613
      @auberry8613 Před 5 měsíci

      @@rubiusstudios5709If you were looking closely you'd also notice its a different set and rarity lol

    • @85mcarnold
      @85mcarnold Před 5 měsíci

      Words of Wind was a critical piece in a UG Enchantress deck that Gabriel Nassif used to take second in one of the old Masters tournaments in 2003.

    • @Xeno-MTG
      @Xeno-MTG Před 5 měsíci

      haha I was just going to jump on this as well, since I also run Jhoira in cEDH :D

  • @cjang94
    @cjang94 Před 5 měsíci +27

    Back in 2015-ish, one of my friends on Abzan Company put Doran, the Siege Tower in his sideboard as tech against Ensnaring Bridge. I recall one SCG qualifier watching his Lantern opponent with his head in his hands getting beaten down by an 0/1 Noble Hierarch, 0/4 Spellskite, and 0/5 Doran. Good times.

  • @jacobisbell9388
    @jacobisbell9388 Před 5 měsíci +37

    I actually ended up siding in condemn against death's shadow decks because it's a weird matchup where the lifegain is actually a downside for them, often turning it into 1 mana remove 2 or 3 creatures and since their creatures are usually attacking I have a target.

  • @professorlardy
    @professorlardy Před 5 měsíci +51

    I remember being at an FNM I was playing Grixis Delver in Modern my opponent was playing Splinter Twin they assemble the combo. I ask them "how many copies are you making?" my opponent gave me a really bemused look like 'how is that relevant?' So came out with a ridiculous number. I then just cast the final card of the list my opponent picks up the card and reads it, puts it down looks at me, asks me what the card does, then picks up the card again and reads it again and realises what happens. That was a good time.

    • @FFKonoko
      @FFKonoko Před 5 měsíci +3

      It took me too long to parse the final card of the list as being the last one in the video. 😂

  • @GrandDuchessTaco
    @GrandDuchessTaco Před 5 měsíci +61

    The Price of Glory counter with Sacred Ground has big "Call an ambulance, but not for me" energy.

    • @Ixidora
      @Ixidora Před 5 měsíci +3

      I actually pulled this off accidentally while countering a spell in an edh game against my buddy who loves to Armageddon and my buddy who runs a stacks/combo version of OG Krenko. I would legit pull a land before going to play with them to put sacred ground in.

  • @theodorecyngiser2841
    @theodorecyngiser2841 Před 5 měsíci +28

    I play mono-red burn in legacy, and one time I was on an absolute loosing streak to painter and show and tell, so partially as a joke, I added one copy of Emrakul to my sideboard as a counter strategy to those two decks. I never got the chance to use it against painter, but I did beat show and tell once when they used show and tell to turn one an Emrakul thinking it would put me to dead on board only for me to slap out my own Emrakul that got off summoning sickness first.

  • @PlayMadness
    @PlayMadness Před 5 měsíci +17

    Throne of Geth as a sideboard bullet against Chalice is one of my favorite deckbuilding choices in Magic history. Throne was printed in Scars of Mirrodin to interact with poison counters. The prediction to bring them into a sideboard against Chalice is so good.

  • @petrakat
    @petrakat Před 5 měsíci +17

    I think my favorite outsmarting moment was Frank Karsten's double-bluff of Blood Oath, on this very channel!

  • @Bleesotron
    @Bleesotron Před 5 měsíci +7

    Another quality deck-building choice:
    During Shards of Alara/Zendikar Standard, Jund was very good. Very very good. It played all the best value cards you could find and was generally unfair. If you've ever had someone Bloodbraid Elf into Blightning, you know the pain. Anyways, some tournament grinders decided to counter the bejesus out of Jund, and made Spread 'Em. It used all the cascade cards they could get their hands on, in order to turbo out Spreading Seas, an enchantment that turned a land into an Island. See, the downside of Jund is that it's a three color deck, and heavily reliant on multi-colored spells. If you Island enough of their lands, they can't play most of their spells.
    So what did some Jund players do?
    Wet Jund. Take that Jund deck, pull out a few random cards, and just jam four Jace the Mind Sculptor in there. If you read the meta correctly, you didn't even need to play any actual Islands in your deck.

  • @WafflesInTheRain
    @WafflesInTheRain Před 5 měsíci +8

    My favourite outsmarting moment was playing a GB Aristocrats style mirror on Arena. We were stalled because a single death trigger would kill either of us, but then I remembered APNAP. Since the Active Player’s triggers go on the stack first, I kept passing turns until he attacked me so my (Non-Active Player) triggers would go on the stack last and resolve first, draining his life and winning me the game.
    But usually I just rush and misplay or worse make game rule violations when playing paper magic 😅

  • @patuni
    @patuni Před 5 měsíci +4

    During Eldrazi Winter, I won so many games with a Hombrew Deck that sported a combo using Teysa, Orzhov Scion and Painter's Servant. The reason why this was so effective at that time was due to cards like Eldrazi Temple or the now banned Eye of Ugin cared about Colourless Eldrazi. The scarecrow made the deck play fair magic.

  • @R3ach4Th3Sky
    @R3ach4Th3Sky Před 5 měsíci +8

    A fun one in modern is giving your opponents token indestructible with blacksmith's skill when they target it with Indomitable Creativity, meaning they cant search their library for the creature

    • @Atulack
      @Atulack Před 5 měsíci

      Fun! They usually just kill my crab token.

  • @Pistolsatsean
    @Pistolsatsean Před 5 měsíci +5

    This is why Settle the Wreckage is one of my favorite cards, when you predict it and dodge, or your opponent doesn't and you get the wipe, so satisfying!

  • @Uber_Jester
    @Uber_Jester Před 5 měsíci +7

    I have a cool one I did that I never saw anywhere. Back in the day of extended, I played TEPS, which was the storm deck. Faires would Board in Telemin Performance to beat them because that match up heavily favored the storm player. I put a phage in my sb so when they Telemin me they lose instead.

  • @zirilan3398
    @zirilan3398 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Another sideboardtech during the Eldrazi-Winter was Painter`s Servant as both Eye of Ugin and Eldrazi Temple only worked with colourless Eldrazi and Painter`s Servant gave them a colour therefore rendering those lands almost useless

  • @nathancook1277
    @nathancook1277 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Years ago, when Mind's Desire was a big extended deck, Telemin Performance became a hot sideboard tech for the mirror match to deck your opponent. Some people started siding in one copy of Phage the Untouchable (!!!) for their opponent's Telemin Performance.

  • @michaelsparks1571
    @michaelsparks1571 Před 5 měsíci +7

    A commander "out play" I had once was that an opponent had just put Dread on the board and another opponent had the Kaldheim Vorinclex. So I played Murderous Redcap and killed the Dread player using his own creature as my "Sac outlet". Two turns later I drew a real sac outlet and killed the Vorinclex player with Redcap.

    • @veganermetzger1234
      @veganermetzger1234 Před 5 měsíci

      I understand that the Redcap dies from Dread when dealing Damage and comes back with no counter because of the Vorinclex. But didnt you need a regular Sac-Outlet anyway or how do you sacrifice the Redcap or make damage with it? It needs to make damage to get destroyed from Dread. Could you please explain what im overlooking? Cant figure it out, sorry :)

    • @michaelsparks1571
      @michaelsparks1571 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@veganermetzger1234 "I understand that the Redcap dies from Dread when dealing Damage"
      Exactly this. Redcap's damage trigger is on when it enters the battlefield.
      So you shoot 2 damage at Dread player
      Dread trigger destroys Redcap
      Persist trigger on Redcap brings it back (No counter because Vorinclex)
      ETB trigger for 2 damage
      Rinse Repeat.
      I only needed my own actual sac outlet to kill the Vorinclex player.

    • @veganermetzger1234
      @veganermetzger1234 Před 5 měsíci

      Ok thanks, i forgot that it also deals damage when coming back. Thank you for explaining it to me! Have a good day!

  • @ylktr
    @ylktr Před 5 měsíci +8

    I love the setup of one at the desk with the other two next to him. Makes me think you guys should get your own late night talk show!

    • @MopeyN
      @MopeyN Před 5 měsíci +1

      Call the show _End Of Your Turn_ or _End Step_ . Credits to me, or not if someone was quicker ;)

  • @WilldabeastLOL12
    @WilldabeastLOL12 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I remember thinking it was kind of cool seeing Orvar end up in a lot of modern sideboards for the indomitable creativity matchup

  • @rfs8194
    @rfs8194 Před 5 měsíci +6

    That Words of Worship tech was genius!

  • @hansoskar1911
    @hansoskar1911 Před 5 měsíci +1

    what I love even more that Throne of Geth against Chalice is Shattering Spree. it's pretty resiliant against counters but the best part is their face when the Judge explains how Replicate works.

  • @ServoToken
    @ServoToken Před 5 měsíci +47

    The link to the secret card took me to a 404 error page

    • @cl000py9
      @cl000py9 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Be positive, it could be a rickroll

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před 5 měsíci +12

      It's fixed now :)

    • @ActBreaker
      @ActBreaker Před 5 měsíci +9

      it's VERY secret

    • @GaybrohamStinkton
      @GaybrohamStinkton Před 5 měsíci +3

      It was to a prefilled basket and goes to the checkout page. The winning card, mothers credit

    • @jun1orbaitor44
      @jun1orbaitor44 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@CardmarketMagicFor some reason it still won't load for me

  • @nielsmandemakers720
    @nielsmandemakers720 Před 5 měsíci +11

    for the first one, dont forget Gaea's blessing :)

  • @charlessmith208
    @charlessmith208 Před 5 měsíci +2

    In cedh I have leyline of singularity as a surprisingly strong stax piece. Dockside, tivit, korvald, and so many other strategies rely on tokens to be good so when they instead legend rule out of existence their entire decks stop functioning.

  • @Melvinvanharn
    @Melvinvanharn Před 5 měsíci +3

    Back when Fact or Fiction was in standard, some decks playing red used Sudden Impact to combat it. When the blue player cast a Fact or Fiction, they red player would make a 5/0 pile. If they took the 5/0 pile, they'd cast a Sudden Impact, which dealt damage equal to the number of cards in their hand(which would probably somewhere between 9 and 12 damage). Once the blue players knew what was going on, the red players could still bluff, making a 5/0 split, and the blue players might take the zero pile, because they didn't want to risk taking double digit damage from a single card.

  • @MitchRusso45
    @MitchRusso45 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Man oh man that lifegain hedge was BEAUTIFUL! Rakdos charm against combo token strategies is also fantastic.

  • @adamrobinson6951
    @adamrobinson6951 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I've been blown out in Commander by Rakdos Charm's third mode so many times that I'm actually surprised this isn't the most popular mode on the card.
    Truly devastating to make 100x 100/100 hydras with the Hydra Broodmaster only to be killed in response by a 2 mana instant.

  • @Crankyor
    @Crankyor Před 5 měsíci +3

    I think the Orvar, the All-Seeing interaction with (multiple) Archon if Cruelty belongs here. I was in awe if the creativity when i first saw it! 😊

    • @AnonymousAnonymous-ht4cm
      @AnonymousAnonymous-ht4cm Před 4 měsíci

      Why do multiple Archons matter? I see how vs 1 Archon, it will cause the other one to be sacrificed and also be ready to swing. Is it just that if you order your discards you can kill one of the Archons with the orvar-clone's ETB, and the other with the attack trigger?

  • @skeven0
    @skeven0 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Speaking of number 5, while mill is rare in limited.
    due to the format rules,theres no limit on basics land and your draft/sealed pool is your sideboard, you can add all those cards ( or in the colors you are playing) and increase the land count.
    it has won me games before, from a regular limited inviroment to cube where brainfreeze was in

    • @blightyfrogs
      @blightyfrogs Před 5 měsíci

      How many lands do you add? And if you remember, which limited was this? This is hilarious!

    • @skeven0
      @skeven0 Před 5 měsíci

      one that springs to mind of regular limited not cube was either M13 or M15 with Mind Sculpt (a common 1U Sorcery ; Target opponent mills 7 cards)@@blightyfrogs

  • @BaronSengir1008
    @BaronSengir1008 Před 5 měsíci +9

    I remember one time on Arena I was playing a Dragons Approach deck, and my opponent milled half my deck... I just laughed to myself because they just helped me... Lol

    • @joejordan401
      @joejordan401 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I was playing narcomoeba self-mill in ELD standard on Arena, mono U, and came up against someone trying to mill me. We were both casting "venture deeper" on me, and I was like 😊 because they were helping.
      Then I cast Clear the Mind to shuffle my graveyard back in (I ran it so I wouldn't actually lose to decking, since the deck wasn't as fast as Modern Dredge at actually closing out games) and they just scooped 😂

  • @saschakibben475
    @saschakibben475 Před 5 měsíci +1

    In the Eldrazi Winter, I played Bant midrange with 4 Loxodon Smiter and Path to exile.
    My favorite play was to Path the Smasher and discard the Smiter into the discard effect to block the Thought Knot Seer.

  • @sh41
    @sh41 Před 5 měsíci +1

    We used to sideboard Gaia's blessing before the eldrazi existed.
    Throne of Geth is the best counter sideboard tech card, loved that one!
    My favourite sideboard card ever was Tormod's crypt in affinity against bridge from below.

  • @Debatra.
    @Debatra. Před 5 měsíci +12

    13:37 - "Charms can't be all strong options."
    Archdruid's Charm, new from MKM: "Hold my beer."

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 Před 5 měsíci +1

      To be fair, Archmage's Charm also had three strong options.

  • @OMGclueless
    @OMGclueless Před 5 měsíci +1

    They explained that Throne of Geth is good because it can proliferate multiple Chalices at once. But the killer piece of Throne of Geth is that it also answers *future* Chalices, since Chalice on 1 itself has mana value 2 while on the stack and it gets countered by Chalice on 2.

  • @yuppy64
    @yuppy64 Před 5 měsíci +1

    When all but me and one other at my LGS were playing Twin, I was playing through the breach Tron, and Eye of Ugin was legal, so I put a silent arbiter that had been in my folder since 2004 straight in to my maindeck, could tutor it with Eye, and the 5 toughness made it difficult for lighting bolt and galvanic blasts. People walking by would say "ooh sideboard tech!" and correcting them was the most fun I ever had playing Magic.

  • @adambutt5137
    @adambutt5137 Před 5 měsíci

    The greatest outsmarting I have ever seen on camera was on the SCG tour back in the day. Rest in Peace was the most common sideboard card against graveyard decks. And a jund loam player put a Helm of Obidience in his sideboard to win with reverse helm kills. It was one of the most magical win I have ever seen.

  • @DiviTon
    @DiviTon Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think the favorite "outsmart" strategy I came up with was when I played Elves in modern. The deck is very susceptible to wrath effects, but Chord of Calling for something like Selfless Spirit or Burrenton Forge Tender were easy ways to counter that.
    However, there was a wrath that is very difficult to counter and that is Living End. At the time, my build of Elves played 3 Ezuri as the primary win condition, but I was also playing one Mirror Entity as an elf that could act as a 4th Ezuri that dodged the legend rule.
    Anyway, I recall one time my opponent cascaded into Living End and in response I cast Chord for 3 to get a Mirror Entity. Then I activated its ability for zero to wipe my entire board before Living End resolved. Then upon resolution they had a bunch of draft commons and all my creatures came back and I had like 80 power worth of trample and easily attacked for lethal

  • @Baritone_RyanHenry
    @Baritone_RyanHenry Před 5 měsíci

    Videos about Magic’s gaming history is AWESOME! Love it !!

  • @smeatar
    @smeatar Před 5 měsíci

    Hearing you talk about countering psychatog was so good! It really makes me wish I had people to play magic with

  • @TheMorbidHobo
    @TheMorbidHobo Před 5 měsíci +1

    My krenko deck lost to a Rakdos charm once. I was just amazed more than anything. Really fun interaction.

  • @MrInterVention149
    @MrInterVention149 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The funniest thing is the only tournament win I ever had in the only tournament I ever played in locals was a mill deck.
    Milled all the way down to my last card (while playing a zombie deck). No creatures on my opponent’s board after trading creatures. The game looked very dire. Then, I drew my last card. It was Patriarch’s Bidding. I resurrected my entire graveyard, then sacked my new zombies to a Nantuko Husk that was able to attack. Between life loss from sacrificing zombies and the attack damage, I did around 103 damage to win the game.
    It was a fun experience.

  • @colinsprung3996
    @colinsprung3996 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I love this type of video from you guys it's really fun

  • @gamerl2
    @gamerl2 Před 5 měsíci +1

    1:36 I mainboarded jester's cap and sadistic sacrament in my Phenax commander deck for this exact reason

  • @badmangames5735
    @badmangames5735 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I won a pro tour qualifier once due to this. It was during mardu vehicles era. I chose to sideboard deflecting palm against a lot of the meta that included golgari midrange and aether works marvel. It won me so many games, and the opponent was baffled by the choice so often.

  • @ragnar3434
    @ragnar3434 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Congrats, words of worship might be my favorite contol win condition ive heard in a while.

  • @hoodiegal
    @hoodiegal Před 5 měsíci +2

    The bonus in the link: I ran into that exact issue when the problem card in question was reprinted in ONE. I just had to play different colored decks until it stopped being so ubiqutous.

  • @GoofBallsMTG
    @GoofBallsMTG Před 5 měsíci +1

    These discussion episodes make me really want a Cardmarket Podcast.......

  • @ettoreozzy9932
    @ettoreozzy9932 Před 5 měsíci

    When I saw the title I've remembered a golgari charm played so well with the -1/-1 mode in order to save a scavenging ooze from selesnya charm exile clause in standard. But then I understood that this is not necessary a play that outsmarted the opponent and really the options with card choices etc. Nice video though!

  • @atypicaloddity
    @atypicaloddity Před 5 měsíci

    I use that Sacred Ground combo in my Zedruu deck. The fact that it's also helpful against my friend's Zozu deck is the sugar on top

  • @thomasmyers825
    @thomasmyers825 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Doing a history of competitive magic series would be cool for us newbies. ❤

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před 5 měsíci +6

      We've already done a few of those :) between our Best Deck Ever series and my Strange History Of series, and we'll be doing more in the future too

  • @johannesblank1552
    @johannesblank1552 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Sneaking in that Word of Wisdom at 7:20 :)

  • @Swimmerwoad
    @Swimmerwoad Před 5 měsíci +1

    I loved the Orvar the all form counter into archon of cruelty as well

  • @davidschneider9428
    @davidschneider9428 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Super cool format!

  • @phislolis
    @phislolis Před 5 měsíci +9

    The blue card of that cycle is actually Words of Wind

  • @vb_blokeboi7251
    @vb_blokeboi7251 Před 5 měsíci

    As an affinity player, one of my favourite interactions was Arcbound Ravager in the Living End match up. Good fun

  • @wesleyjudson599
    @wesleyjudson599 Před 5 měsíci

    What's also interesting about the Rakdos charm interaction is that it also opens up burn counterplay.
    If you have the charm and a lightning bolt, for example, then the enemy might create enough to kill you, but put themselves within range of the lightning bolt to finish them off.

  • @ryanpeters3812
    @ryanpeters3812 Před 5 měsíci

    My favorite was in New Phyrexia and original Innistrad standard. Phyrexian Obliterator was a monster and hard to kill. I sideboarded in Wrack with Madness. Since the target creature deals its power to itself, it dies and forces the owner of obliterator to sacrifice 5 permanents. It usually was enough to cause them to scoop on the spot.

  • @brainpower45
    @brainpower45 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I feel like Orvar the All-form deserves a spot on this list vs Archon of Cruelty decks. Every card on this list was at least a playable magic card in their decks. Orvar is literally an uncastable waste of cardboard in the decks that played it, EXCEPT against creativity. In that one matchup it reads "If this card is in your hand when archon of cruelty enters the battlefield, LOL Uno reverse baby!"

  • @therobbyfitz
    @therobbyfitz Před 5 měsíci +1

    The Rakdos Charm tech was the only one on the list I actually got a to pull off.
    I love all of these

  • @pdb189
    @pdb189 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This video was amazing. Never stop

  • @IfYouNeedAnEdge
    @IfYouNeedAnEdge Před 5 měsíci +1

    Gaea’s Blessing also shuffles your graveyard into your library and is cheaper than the Eldrazi so it’s less unfortunate to draw/run in multiples against mill

  • @larsegholmfischmann6594
    @larsegholmfischmann6594 Před 5 měsíci

    In the Splinter Twin days I played Esper Control and my secret sideboard (never seen anyone else use it) tech was this:
    Batwing Brume 1(W/B)
    Instant
    Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt this turn if White was spent to cast this spell. Each player loses 1 life for each attacking creature they control if Black was spent to cast this spell. (Do both if White and Black was spent.)

  • @Noirevert
    @Noirevert Před 5 měsíci

    When Pyromancer’s Ascension was in Standard, some people sided in Telemin Performance to mill out the creature less deck which is pretty clever in its own right, but having heard about this tech I added a Phage the Untouchable to my sideboard so my opponents would lose when their Telemin Performance resolved.

  • @leopardbunny
    @leopardbunny Před 4 měsíci

    I was playing a Commander game with my gf, playing my good ol' friend Brudiclad. Was set up to win via Academy Manufactor, but had no sources of treasure on the field so I was stumbling, and she knew it and was prepared to deal with any sort of treasure generation I could come up with... except for when I countered my own spell with An Offer You Can't Refuse. I turned all my tokens into an ungodly number of Academy Manufactors and swung lethal.

  • @nbarker20
    @nbarker20 Před 14 dny

    Carl lookin like he dressed himself out of a clothing donation box. love it.

  • @drake11011
    @drake11011 Před 5 měsíci

    not exactly a sideboard card but i always found it hillarious to get grove of the burnwillows with my sylvan scrying and play relic of progenitus against death shadow, when playing gr tron. the only cards they could play were snapcaster bolt and their discard spells, they could never get their graveyard full enough for angler or their life total low enough for shadow

  • @Atulack
    @Atulack Před 5 měsíci

    The secret sideboard tech is #1 for me. That would be so satisfying to do!

  • @Vitalquelle
    @Vitalquelle Před 5 měsíci

    My favourite SB tech from myself was playing fracturing ghust in modern elves against Saheele/Copycat combo.

  • @golgariguy
    @golgariguy Před 5 měsíci

    The proliferate interaction with Throne of Geth is pretty cool. It doesn't happen as often, but Yawgmoth can do the same thing in current Modern :)

  • @robertgreen6499
    @robertgreen6499 Před 5 měsíci

    what is funny i've either done each of these, or was on the receiving end of these techs. even the secret tech in the link. even the life gain one where are locals was type 1.5 (legacy) we had lots of cool decks and fun times, but i remember playing angel stompy with the life gain tech into are local psychotog player and i feel his mind exploded when it resolved. the number one I was doing that before twin was a thing because of token decks we had locally, but man when other found out you had to fear open black and red mana lol.
    We need more fun lists like these with great stories attached to them.

  • @ulamgexe7442
    @ulamgexe7442 Před 5 měsíci

    I remember I've heard of surge node to also counter chalice of the void, but it costs 1 mana, so maybe that was for another deck or for vintage?

  • @praetorxak5361
    @praetorxak5361 Před 5 měsíci

    My personal favorite instance was when dredge or affinity were super popular. They would bring in a bunch of enchantment destruction for rest in peace and stony silence. I played jeskai control. I didn't play either of those cards. I played anger of the gods. I knew the draws that they would get when they would have their enchantment destruction in, because they would have one or two cards in hand that literally didn't hit a single card in my deck. It wasn't the most efficient answer, but making them have dead draws was so much more valuable.

  • @JohnFromAccounting
    @JohnFromAccounting Před 5 měsíci

    I played UWR Control during the Twin era, and splashed black for Rakdos Charm and some other funky sideboard cards. Opponent taking 7,000,000 damage is hilarious.

  • @LucasBuilds
    @LucasBuilds Před 5 měsíci

    Words of worship!! I actually run that in my Heliod, Warped Eclipse commander deck as one of a couple options to prevent myself from decking out. The rest of the deck is built around using the cost reduction/flash combo from the commander to find Forced Fruition and copy it as many times as possible. It's less mill and more overdraw.
    By far the most obscure card in it though is Library of Leng. you have no maximum hand size and can discard to the top of your deck instead of your graveyard on a card-by-card basis.
    funnily enough it also runs an eldrazi, solely so as a means of recycling the entire graveyard to prevent itself from decking out. it's such a profoundly stupid deck but fun as hell to play-- nobody questions the card draw until casting anything means drawing over a quarter of their deck and reducing the cost of all my stuff by 28.

  • @isaiedsouza2918
    @isaiedsouza2918 Před 5 měsíci

    I was playing mill once(which I love) and my opponent was playing Gaea's Blessing in the main deck... I had to almost completely mill them out three times before they drew it

  • @TomGalonska
    @TomGalonska Před 5 měsíci

    A friend of mine loved to play Soul Sisters in the Twin meta, that deck preyed on Twin :D Exarch wouldn't do anything and often enough pestermite was also not strong enough

  • @SomeGuy712x
    @SomeGuy712x Před 5 měsíci

    One time, during a Wilds of Eldraine draft, I was able to win a game by making one of my opponent's creatures indestructible.
    So, I was at 1 life, and the opponent put a Wicked Role token on his weak creature, while all of my untapped creatures were big enough to destroy it if I blocked, which would've caused his Wicked Role to kill me. It seemed like I'd be doomed whether I blocked or not. However, I happened to have a Moment of Valor in my hand, so I used that to make his creature indestructible so that I could block without his creature dying, and then my creatures were able to finish the opponent off on my next turn. Man, that unusual "big brain play" felt so good.

  • @olivierloignon6237
    @olivierloignon6237 Před 5 měsíci

    great video!

  • @uiuiuiseraph
    @uiuiuiseraph Před 5 měsíci

    I loved Furnace Dragon in the Affinity Mirror. :D

  • @disafear3674
    @disafear3674 Před 5 měsíci

    Those were cool!

  • @queengambrino4114
    @queengambrino4114 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Not sure if you guys have been doing top 5s or top 10s about magc related stuff before but i really have to say I LOVE the format and hope you will delve into more anad do more similar videos !!! keep up the good work, thanks to you there is now another amateur mtg arena player out there that annos everyone with his horrible deck in ranked (that is me ^^) love you guys, cheers

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před 5 měsíci +2

      We decided we'd try to do more of them this year as not to tire everyone with only gameplay content. And it's fun to do presentations to each other :) is there any specific top5 you'd like to see?

  • @danielminor5595
    @danielminor5595 Před 5 měsíci

    Against Chalice of the Void in vintage, shattering spree is actually an answer. Even though they would chalice on 1, and shattering spree's mana cost is 1, the replications of it are not "cast" so you they won't get countered by the chalice.

  • @javierpatag3609
    @javierpatag3609 Před 5 měsíci +9

    "The Art of War" is widely available, usually cheap, and quite a short, quick read. Recommended.

    • @domri4203
      @domri4203 Před 5 měsíci +1

      There is the audio book on CZcams right now.

  • @Geroaergaroe
    @Geroaergaroe Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think that list is incomplete without the "secret" fail to find mode to Gift Ungiven.

  • @bradjones1449
    @bradjones1449 Před 5 měsíci

    It makes me feel good to see rakdos charm at #1. I thought i was the only one who saw the potential for the third ability.

  • @cameroncorrado3935
    @cameroncorrado3935 Před 5 měsíci

    I remember when I realized I could use Rakdos Charm to trigger my own Goblin Lackey. It was a fun few weeks, until I realized it just wasn't worth it. 😅

  • @Rev_piss
    @Rev_piss Před 5 měsíci

    My favorite thing we found like this was dropping a confusion in the ranks to my opponents show and tell.

  • @naeryanX
    @naeryanX Před 5 měsíci

    In EDH, rakdos charm is also a great counter against triumph of the horde ;)

  • @j.walker6845
    @j.walker6845 Před 5 měsíci

    Good video!

  • @nickjoseph77
    @nickjoseph77 Před 5 měsíci

    Surgical Extraction is always a side board if not even a main deck card in Mill strategies now.
    Yes! Wrack with madness was so awful and overcosted but it was the best the had and it was so punishing! Lol

  • @mrsplays9817
    @mrsplays9817 Před 5 měsíci

    I felt pretty smart today when someone went for the Thoracle win (in cedh) with counterspell backup and I flashed out a Platinum Angel
    -they couldn't counter a creature spell.

  • @masonwhitehead7203
    @masonwhitehead7203 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The link in the description doesn’t seem to work

  • @Okosaki
    @Okosaki Před 5 měsíci

    Mill became so frequent in bo1 historic at one point, that I would main board a single Gaea's Blessing just to counter it. In the rare occasion I drew it, playing it wouldn't be too terrible either.

  • @tylerstegman6846
    @tylerstegman6846 Před 5 měsíci

    Before people started using rakdos charm, i was playing batwing brume for the same effect in my turbofog list