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god empeor of dune is the most insane book i have ever read and i really feel that's where the thesis of the story really comes together. i also feel like dune gets better on rereads with the knowledge and context of the whole series. herbert writing is pretty unique and i struggled with it at first as well, i wouldnt change a thing now and honestly think he was a genius.
Dune is brilliant ... Herbert tricks the reader into believing Paul is the Hero by having him walk the "Hero's Journey" in the story. But when you step back and realize that Paul can see the future and still decides to move forward with his plans to take over the known Universe by boxing the Guild into a no win scenario and allowing the Jihad to sweep across the Universe, there is no way you can feel that "GOOD' triumphed.
At the end, you are left with an Autocrat 'Messiah', motivated by personal vengeance for the death of his father, threatening to destroy civilization if he doesn't get his way and on the brink of unleashing a religious Armageddon upon the Universe ... and no way to stop him.
Paul is NOT a 'GOOD GUY'
Iâm on god emperor now. I find it weird how the most popular opinion is âdune gets worse with each bookâ
@@theveryhighminister867 dune sucks
Half way through God-Emperor. I thought Dune-Children of Dune was so damn good. God-Emperor takes the story, and starts sprinting with it. Itâs fantastic. So far though, I think Dune Messiah was actually my favorite. Hard for me to even determine just yet. Cheers
Denis Villeneuve's Dune is one of the best adaptation I've seen in a while. it was really subtle in my opinion. given that he directed one of my favorite movies ever (Arrival) i was really excited about this one and I was not disappointed even a little. and I don't think I can say anything to adore the book that hasn't already been said.
One of our friends is also a fan of Villeneuve-Iâm pretty bad at keeping up with movies, but I was really impressed with it!
@@ebnovels I'm not the best when it comes to keeping up with movies either but Arrival was really impressive for me at the time. the only thing that I think he should have done in this movie was to highlight "Fear is the mind-killer..." more that he did... but overall I think he did justice to the story.
Yeah, Sean and I were actually talking about how it was really only Jessica who said that, right? Anyway, I might have to check out Arrival now :D
@@ebnovels yeah, only she said it. but the scene when they are in the sand storm while jessica is saying it pauls lips are moving so that's enough I guess ?! :)) anyway, we appreciate these adaptation videos you and sean do. excited for "wheel of time" and "the witcher".
Villeneuve did best he could in a movie format and delivered the best film adaptation of Dune that can be done in this medium. But the best adaptation overall is the tv mini-series from the early 2000's - I highly recommend it.
So glad I saw this, Iâm 300 pages in and I couldnât decide if I should finish the book first or see just go ahead and watch the movie (I read at a slow pace). Now I can watch the movie this weekend then finish the book later!
Well yay, Iâm glad that was helpful for you to find out :D
Good to know. I picked up the first book of dune and read what I thought was the first book, but later realized that I had only finished the first part (of 3) of book 1. Was really looking forward to watching the movie so Iâm glad I can just watch it and then finish the book!
As someone who saw the movie first, I loved the suspense and the pacing that Denis Villanueve created with his film. It was so captivating!! Now reading the book, I love it for how much is revealed. I love that we are in more character{s heads and you get to sense who really has a grasp on the situation and who doesnât. ANd I actually love Princess Irulan notes because they make it feel like you are reading this legend or folklore type tale.
I feel like reading the book after seeing the movie for the first time really helped me with remembering all the characters and made it easy for me to jump back and forth between their minds
I Definitely agree with you that people not used to reading an older style of Sci-Fy or Fantasy like Dune would probably benefit from watching the adaptation first to truly enjoy the book. The first time I read it when I was a teenager was an amazing but confusing experience and David Lynch's movie adaptation was as well with the added bonus of being hilarious too! Actually, it wasn't until I listened to the audiobook years later that I finally truly GOT Dune. So yes it can take a bit of work but so worth it!
So true, so very true. I grew up reading a lot of older sci fi (80s kid) but there is even some of it that I just don't get because of the time period it was written in.
Thatâs a helpful perspective, so thanks for sharing that! đ
@@ebnovels Thanks! Loved the Illumacrate unboxing btw too! â€ïž
I think those critiques are baseless, like, itâs an older style but itâs not objectively worse or better. Itâs just different.
I had a similar impression, and was intrigued enough to continue the series. Very glad I did. Aliaâs character development through the 3rd book was worth it all to me
Perfect timing on this video for me. Planning on watching it tonight. I loved hearing yours and Sean's thoughts on both the book and the movie.
Well thanks! And I hope you enjoy the book đ
I'm so happy that it seems like you at least appreciated Dune, if not completely liking/loving the execution of the story. It's great to hear that you liked the movie so much though, it was awesome! I think if you DO continue into Messiah you'll quickly notice how different it really is compared to Dune. Dune Messiah is sort of a long extension to Book 3 of Dune / epilogue to Dune. You might enjoy it more than you did Dune because of how Frank Herbert changes the writing style a good amount.
I really enjoy when Shaun shares his thoughts. Itâs so helpful to hear a few different points of view. This gave me a lot of insight.
And I really appreciate when people are kind and welcoming to Sean, so thank you for the lovely comment! đđđ
I went and saw the movie last night. Iâd never even tried the book and barely knew what to expect. My excitement for it was almost entirely because of the director. (Arrival might be my favorite movie of all time. It is beautiful.)
I was mesmerized by the world and the story. Glad to hear you suggest reading it after seeing the movie. Iâll probably check out the book soon!
I hope you enjoy it! Someone else mentioned loving Arrival and now I feel like I need to see it đ
@@ebnovels yes!!! Itâs amazing. Beautiful messages in it. If you do watch it, Iâd be curious what you think!
"Dune" (1965) is one of my favorite novels, as well as one of my favorite movies. This would be the 2021 film adaptation. I think they are both equally amazing. What makes the book better then the film are Jessica's specific affiliations with the Baron, Duke Leto, and Thufir Hawit. These affiliations are omitted from the movie. What makes the film better then the book is Paul's relationship with Duncan Idaho. The book makes it clear Duncan is a loyal warrior to the Atredies family. The novel does not emphasize, however, Duncan's friendship with Paul Atredies.
Really enjoyed hearing opinions from both you. I also liked the ideas more than the execution. The world of Arrakis is the star of the book for me. The ecology of the planet and the plans to turn it into a utopia I found really interesting.
Yes, agree!
Ya I have have had this vibe of this book forever, the world looks super cool, culture the time , the people, but the book looks so meh in its story and drama
The spoilers at the start of the chapters are the reason why I like the book so much.
Iâm just over halfway through Empire of the Vampire and Iâm loving it so far!
Perfect timing as I was debating reading the book before watching the movie but definitely going to take your advice and do movie first! Loved hearing you both talk about the book too. đ
I will be looking for Empire! Thanks for showing it again!
Finally Elliot!!!! Thank you so much!!!! Great vlog! My fav charakter is Leto so i was very sad
Maybe the book is not super perfect but it's one of the most intriguing, fascinating, thought-provoking, compelling, interesting reading of all time! As far as your lack of emotional response to some of the characters, Frank Herbert never meant to write a tear-jerking, emotional sci-fi drama. Dune is a highly intellectual, philosophical, political take on the history of our world, under the desguise of science fiction. It's a mirror of our world and all the economical, political, religious, ecological issues of our time. Frank Herbert was ahead of his time when he wrote Dune. Besides Dune is a spiritual journey through the human spirit!
Always love your vlogs, and your hubby is always a welcome addition
I had no idea that there were similarities between Dune and WoT! I watched the movie the other night and LOVED it, but after hearing your and Lieneâs thoughts on the book Iâm going to just stick to the movies haha đ loved hearing Seanâs thoughts too! â€ïžâ€ïž
Haha that's funny about Robert Jordan. The Fremen and the Aiel are like exactly the same ahaha
The way the film ends really frustrated me at a Thursday evening screening, but the experience since then has been growing on me and the way you explain things, Elliot, has increased my enjoyment of the story the way Villeneuve executed it. Structure is one of the dealbreakers in how a story is told, because you can't take a cookie cutter to stories, you have to tailor the structure to what the individual story needs.
Iâm currently about a quarter way through Empire of the Vampire. Really enjoying it so far. Very dark, not for kids. Borrows from some other vampire/horror style books but I also get a strong Bloodbourne vibe from it too.
I dropped the ball on reading this and watching the movie. Perhaps I'll get to it. Interesting to hear you and Sean's thoughts.
I really enjoyed the movie-whatâd you think of it?
Hubby and I went last night to see Dune. He is an avid Dune fan and he found the new movie adaptation to be incredible. He said from start to finish he was shocked with how well they did. I very very much enjoyed it as someone who loves fantasy in general. I want to start reading the books now and I am excited !
Oh yay, thatâs awesome! I hope you end up enjoying the book đđđ
I loved this V-log!. It was great to hear both your and Sean's opinions on Dune and even though you weren't a fan of the book I'm glad you enjoyed the film. I really enjoyed Dune but I guess it's just varying opinions.
Saw the movie. Loved it. Immediately bought the book.
I love books, but when I saw the movie I was just thinking about all the things a movie can accomplish that a book cannot (like you gotta admit that there are some things). The Movie Dune really blew me away on that front, I was just mesmerized by it
Happy reading to you both!! đđđ
Thank you, same to you!
I first read Dune when I was 19 and it took me months to read because I kept going back to what I had read to make sure I was piecing it together correctly, HOWEVER, I found it completely enthralling. Iâm not a hugely emotional reader but I did connect with the characters. I do think FH is a straightforward/ âbasicâ storyteller but I feel like what he doesnât say and what could be underlying was enticing - I like wondering I guess.
Iâm nervous to watch this one, but Iâm Hopeful Iâll love it. Tomorrow is the day!
I see the movie tomorrow with my friends, I'm so excited ! love the video btw, I'd like to see more of Luna and Shawn
Well thanks! I hope you and your friends have a great time :D
Itâs amazing how well Dune has aged.
It honestly doesnât feel like it was written when it was đź
@@ebnovels thatâs what happens when you write in a reset of technology and AI.
It aged well, because themes are pretty much universal and people, and the way world works, is pretty much same since time he wrote them. And the fact that major SF franchises took ideas from Dune also helped
"Frank Herbert is pretty basic. He doesn't elaborate on many things"
Wait until they start talking about various prophecies in the later books. Oh my goodness, Children of Dune had parts that were hard to even finish with the confusing back and forth prophetic talk.
Haha, Iâve heard the next books take some interesting turns!
@@ebnovels - The best book is the first followed by the fourth (in my opinion). It takes some classic tropes and puts them on their head in an interesting way. Having just finished reading both the first Mistborn Trilogy and the core six Dune books (neither series for the first time) I actually saw some similarities between the Lord Ruler and the God Emperor. Purposeful cruelty for the greater good.
In my opinion though, the low key book to watch out for is the second one (Dune Messiah). It is largely disregarded and even hated by many Dune readers. But it's fascinating to watch the decay of Paul's rule and watch how his government (and religion) begins to eat itself alive and spins out of his control. Really helps you understand exactly what he is afraid of in the first book. I actually really enjoyed Dune Messiah.
Since I've commented on the other three I'll add comments on rest. Children of Dune has a pretty awesome and epic conclusion. But the ride to get there always feels confused to me. It gets REALLY into its own lore and never provides any context. The last two books (Heretics of Dune, Chapterhouse: Dune) are similarly not that enjoyable for me. Again, it just gets too deep for me and is unreadable at times. I really wish he'd finished the series (Dune 7 was never published) and I haven't read his son's Dune books which supposedly wrap up the series.
@@colin1818 FINALLY a person who likes Dune Messiah! That one is my favorite! The fact that Denis Villeneuve intends to cover the story till Dune Messiah makes me have even more faith in the guy. That dude really gets what Dune is about.
Awww Luna is just the best! Itâs so heartwarming to see you treat her with so much love đ!!
But getting into Dune.. I watched the movie đ„ and afterwards I really wanted to get into the book to find the end of the story! Although Iâm not sure anymore after what you said about the auto-spoil and not fulfilling your character- driven needs! đ
Those pins of Strange the Dreamer!!! đ€©đ
She really is the sweetest! I hope you like the book if you do pick it up đ
I'm excited to see the new movie. I saw the original Dune and Children of Dune movies and became a fan. I planned to read the book with the Nerdist Book Club but never had time. Now I'm interested to see the new movie and it's interpretation of the story. I met a lot of people that have read the entire series and enjoyed it. I will definitely get around to reading the series. Thanks for the video and both your viewpoints.
Okay, I thought I was the only person who was obsessed with stationary. Every year when back to school comes around, I splurge. It's my favorite time of the year.
For the book reader the movie has a couple of gems, like the one woman saying she'll inform the Landsraad. Loved it
I'm glad you liked the film! I thought it was incredible. I can't stop thinking about it. It was truly made by people in love with the source.
Same here !!!
Itâs wild to think only a handful of the actors even read the book to prep for the movie. It truly felt like every single actor read the source material. They all just portrayed their characters so very well! In my own opinion I should say! Cheers đ
I personally think that the way the information was presented added to the impact that some elements of the story had. It's been a few years since I've read it, however I remember at first feeling lost in terminology and lack of context. I thought that referencing the appendix could help, but ultimately found flipping back and forth too cumbersome and read straight through without context. In that, by the end of the story you come to understand everything.
An example I can think of off the top of my head is the spice's affect on the guild navigators. If I remember correctly, the spice's particular affect on them is obscure. But when you later come to understand that the spice is a vehicle for prescience, it becomes obvious. When I first put two and two together and realized that this solves time dilation problems for space travel I was blown away.
I loved both of your reviews on the book, and cant wait for part 2 of the movie!!!!
Dune most definitely influenced the Wheel of Time and anyone (including Robert Jordan) that says otherwise is a liar. The similarities are glaring to not see the influence and they aren't a coincidence.
Influenced how?
Agreed Bene Gesserit= Aei Sedai , Fremen= Aiel , Aiel were made hard in the three fold land , The Fremen were made hard by Arrakis
There are even some scenes in Dune that are almost identical to ones in WoT, but theyâre a bit spoilery.
Same with LOTR
Agreed, I think even if itâs not intentional, stories youâve read influence the stories you may write!
I love the series but I do acknowledge that it was written in the sixties. The litany against fear is something I use almost everyday.
me too! I have severe anxiety and I repeat it to myself all the time
Your dog is sooo adorable đâ€
As a fan of Dune, I thought the movie was a fantastic adaptation. I went with someone who hadnât read the book, and I wondered how well he was following it and if he was enjoying it. He said he enjoyed it quite a bit and easily understood what was going on. Yes, maybe watch the movie, then read to get the full picture. I hate to say that, but I can see how watching first might inspire the reading - especially for those who are more used to modern works than the older ones.
Yeah, I definitely agree! And itâs cool that you and the person you saw it with both enjoyed it; thatâs how it was for our friends too đ
I am about to read the book and then see the movie. I am so excited
I didn't love the series until I read Children of Dune. That book really sold me on the series, and then it just got better and better for me from there. If you're hoping for some characters to care about, I think you'll find them in Children of Dune.
"I can't see you so I won't see you next time" đ€Łđ€Ł idk why that was hilarious to me.
Hahaha, it was hilarious to me too, and Iâm married to the guy, so you think Iâd expect it đ
Frank Herbert did not have a college degree, yet he was one of the premier world-builders in all of science fiction. He mastered both the astrophysics and the ecology of planets in the years he spent researching Dune - it was roughly six years in the making. The story-telling, with all the inner monologues, can be jarring. But ultimately, the story is told by defining Paul's relationships with those around him. The three 'books' that make up Dune are divided specifically by how Paul's definition of character changes. In book 1, he is the son and heir of Duke Leto. The start of book 2 is Paul's transition into becoming a true Fremen and this is essentially where Villeneuve ended part 1 of the movie. In Lynch's movie, he did a lot of those inner monologues in the book as voiceover narration. Villeneuve wisely turns many of those thoughts into dialogue with other characters while keeping it plausible within the characters' nature. Overall, I really felt he did a masterful job with the presentation and the casting was, by and large, brilliant.
watching the movie tomorrow night, can't wait! :-D
I hope you enjoy it :D
Im listening to the audiobook now. Really really really enjoying it. It may very well be my new fav sci fi, toppling battlefield earth.
Wow, thatâs awesome đ
I loved this book. Like my favorite book hands down. Boyfriend suggested I read this at the beginning of this year in anticipation of the movie. I ended up reading it in 2 days, read the whole 6 book saga, bought the board game, began reading the prequels....yeah. This is a fantastic world đ
Iâm hoping to watch the movie on Monday!!!
I read the tv tropes page for Dune like 20+ times and watched a bunch of Quinn's Ideas video essays on the world before I got all six books for Christmas last year. My takeaway is that although Dune is a really really great book, the ideas are better than the execution AND the fandom being so talented and creative is half the fun, just reading the book isn't enough to have a fully satisfying experience in this case, at least imo. I Stan Alia though, the scene where she drags both her grandparents is so funny. I wish she had that much personality in her earlier scenes. About to start Dune Messiah, can't wait to see both the new and old movies lol.
I love this book so far! just got to where the movie leaves off.
hopefully some people will read it without bringing their contemporary expectations to it. If you come in looking for a different experience to what you're used to without judging it you might engage with what's there in a strong enough way that explains why it's one of the highest regarded scifi of all time.
I have that edition on he sofa right now (first time reader of it). Looking forwards to the film.
Arenât the inside cover illustrations amazing?
I think reading it as a teen is the key. The movie did a great job of making it accessible to a broader demographic.
I am 75% of the way through the 4th book, and every book in the series is wildly different. I have enjoyed all of them very much so far, but the series definitely changes drastically book to book. Watching the movie tonight!
I hope you like it! And which book has been your favorite? :)
@@ebnovels I think Children of Dune has been my favorite so far. I havenât really checked out other peopleâs thoughts on the entire series yet to avoid spoilers, so I have no idea how that compares to the general consensus of which book is the best.
At what page does that time skip happen? I have the same edition as you and i'm torn between seeing the movie or reading the book first, so maybe i'll read until that point -> see the movie -> finish reading the book
The time skip is Book Three in the first novel! I donât have it on me at the moment, so Iâm not sure the exact page đ
@@ebnovels That's good enough, thanks â€
I really enjoy reading a book and then watching it's adaptation. Half the fun is seeing the differences from the book and how the directors played it out. Sorta like the same story in a different time line.
I agree there is a lot of telling you what happens instead of showing you what happens, especially in the final pages. Hopefully part two of the movie will give fans some of that missing satisfaction.
Iâm currently reading the fourth book in the saga. I finished the first three books ( with tiny breaks . I sometimes read several books at once ) in roughly three weeks. I was half way through dune when I watched the movie.
I never realized that there was a time jump within dune. I know there are jumps in time between the rest of the books
It's always more fun when couples can finish together! Seriously though, if you have a bit of interest in continuing the series I'd recommend going for it. I felt like the writing got better as the books progressed.
The beauty of the follow up books to Dune is that it flips the script, so to speak. The first book is how a Messiah is created, and the second is how that Messiah falls. The third and fourth books of the series are the consequences of Paul's rise to power, and how much real damage it does. Paul could not bring himself to make a certain 'sacrifice' to salvage the mess he created, but his son does, which launches the series into a whole new direction and time jumps thousands of years after the third book. If you look at the six books Herbert wrote, he literally has three separate 'worlds' to build in them, as he explores the long term future that begins from what Paul did. It really is a sprawling story.
I agree with Sean the writing style is so accessible and it was what really surprised me about the book. I was loving the book until the end of "part 2" and after that it did some things that I didn't 100% love. This book was difficult bc i loved a lot of things but disliked a lot of things too xD
anyways i loved the video ! seeing luna and sean is always nice =D
Well hello Joana đ Yes, the writing is definitely accessible, but thereâs so much to the book that I can see it still being a lot for people to get into
@@ebnovels well hello Elle đ„° yes i agree there's a lot going on and a "simple" or "accessible" writing style doesn't always mean easy to digest cough cough stormlight for example âșïž
i kind of agree with you on seeing the movie first, for people that don't enjoy/ find it hard to get into large-scale universes in books or.... for people who do not read at all! it was so amazing for me that my best friend who doesn't enjoy reading at all decided to pick up the book after seeing the movieđ. But for me, personally, it was much better that i got to read the book first, cause i enjoyed the movie even more.
Totally agree with Sean about how Dune feels like a set up and the story didnât feel quite complete. It definitely made me want to read the news t book.
I have seen both films .would u recommend reading it after seeing the movies
Agree ! đ
Good review bruh
I think of "Dune," "Dune Messiah," and "Children of Dune" as, essentially, one book in the way that LOTR is really one book. The rest of the series isn't worth it, IMHO, but the first three are really incredible. One thing I think is happening right now is that a lot of younger readers ("Younger" as in people who were not alive close to the time "Dune" was written.) don't have some of the historical context of the time the book was written. For instance, if you read "Middlemarch" you take into consideration when it was written. Folks forget that "Dune" was written long enough ago that there is actual historical context that applies. I do agree with the thinking about Frank Herbert's authorial voice and style but the main character in the book isn't exactly Paul, it's Dune the planet. "Dune" was written right at the time when eco-activism and eco-terrorism (Earth First etc) were just building momentum. While organizations like the Sierra Club and the Audubon Society had been long established, they were focused on preserving specific places and species, not the planet as a whole. The late 60's and early 70's were the time when a larger form of activism came to the fore. "Dune" was written right at the very beginning of that. It's not a coincidence. "Dune" was Frank Herbert's attempt to use science fiction to make a point that might break through to a reading public that had not paid attention before. These days thinking about how we impact where we live is dead common so it's hard for younger readers to realize that there was a time when this was absolutely not the case. "Dune" is a classic and important precisely because we do all stand on the shoulders of giants.
I agree, although, God Emperor is really interesting book. Totally insane, but interesting
i love anime and thats a pretty good gist of anime tbh
I agree, Iâm more of a character driven reader as well. I definitely think Dune is less about any individual character and more about a philosophical thesis, so in many ways I think the style is intentional, even though itâs an odd choice. At any rate, the ideas and world have had a big impact on the genre thereafter and I think the movie excelled at making me feel for the characters more.
I watch the movie without having read the book and knowing very little about the book and really enjoyed it for the most part. I have some nikpicky complaints about the style of directing but in general I came out of it wanting more and being very intrigued. The movie made me want to maybe read the book but I'm nervous that it was written so long ago, so I'm still deciding
I have not yet finished the book before going to the adaptation. The film was absolutely undoubtedly great. I think it's even a better adaptation then lord of the rings. And that's my favourite trilogy. đŹ
Ohhhh, thatâs quite a statement! Now I feel like I need to rewatch those to compare đ
@@ebnovels please do! I think it's more faithful than the lord of the rings adaptation. Although done beautifully, lord of the rings contain things that would have made the story confusing (Tom bombadil) or just longer than necessary (scouring of the shire)
Lately Iâve been reading books that have been turned into movies. Iâve watched movies first then the book and recently enjoyed it like that. It helps me understand the books more for some reason đđ€
Iâm going to watch the movie then read the book . đ€Ș
I completed the book last month n m so excited for the movieđ€©
Ohh, itâs so good!
Hi Elliot! Really enjoyed your Dune review. You also touched on something I noticed some modern readers or most fantasy readers have with the novel. Which is the connection to the characters. You are right, the story is more big picture. Frank Herbert wrote this novel with a purpose.
âEnormous problems arise when human mistakes are made on the grand scale available to a superhero... Heroes are painful, superheroes are a catastrophe. The mistakes of superheroes involve too many of us in disasterâ.
Love the video đ€
I'm gonna watch the movie with my brother on sunday... And we are reading the book to, but just until some point because is part one đ
And I have to watch some videos before staring it so I would understand more and it work hahaha
I hope this was helpful then! And enjoy the movie with your brother đđđ
When you hit 100k, can we get a little violin performance? You're a violin teacher, right? Would be so cool! ^^
I can't wait to watch the movie I did enjoy the book
Ohh, the movie is great! I think a lot of people will enjoy it regardless of whether they liked the book or not đ
Part of the appeal for those readers who have a lot of love for 'Dune' is the factor of "when" they find and read Frank Herbert's novel. I was 12 years old when I first read 'Dune'. I was a die-hard sci-fi fan anyway, and the story of Paul Atreides held a lot for me. Add to the fact was that I read this book during the first wave of 'Dune' book/movie hype in 1984 before the release of the David Lynch film that was a huge critical and financial failure. I actually really liked the Lynch version, but it actually uses a lot of those inner monologues in the book as voice-over in the 1984 film. That movie comes off more as 'Scenes From Dune', though. I totally see your point of view on the book. The last time I read the series was over a decade ago, and I remember feeling the same way about the writing...and I still consider 'Dune' to be my favorite novel of all time.
BTW...I absolutely adored the new movie and have watched it twice! It was absolutely everything I wanted in an adaptation of the book (even if it's just the first half of the book)...but I also loved the other film versions of 'Dune': the 1984 Lynch version for all its weirdness and surreal alterations that don't really make sense, and the 2000 SyFy channel mini-series with William Hurt as Duke Leto (which got a sequel 'Children of Dune' miniseries that covered both 'Dune Messiah' and 'Children of Dune' and had a young James MacAvoy in a rather important role in the 'Dune' saga).
Why does everyone say that Dune Messiah is not a good book! I think it's a a very important link between the first and the third novels. It's short but very effective in showing how dystopian the dune universe really is and the decostruction of a false messiah!
I read Dune recently as well!!! I found it very enjoyable. The world building was incredibly extensive and I was quite impressed. Looking forward to seeing the filmâš
I hope you like the movie! đ
Audio book solves the hopping issue since there different voice on different character.
I liked the movie and I love the book.Dune is my favourite sci-fi book of all times.
I read the book before seeing the movie; my husband did not. He said he was lost as to the significance of certain events, but overall he really enjoyed it. I felt like some scenes were a little anticlimactic because weâre were lacking the inner monologues during the movie which I thought built the angst and anticipation. Certain characters were sold short-they just didnât flesh out as well on screen for me as they were in the book. But I really liked that they kept pretty darn close to the book though. And I enjoyed seeing the world come to life.
I feel like the book and movie are wonderful companions. The book sets things up perfectly for movie experience!
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My mind kind of works much like Herbert writes. It is a weird fit. Ad that to I saw the 84 movie as my 1st experience in HBO when I was 9 or 10.
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Dune is just one of those books that sit with you for a while till you "get" it. I had the same opinion as you when I read it :)
I read to book first but was not a huge fan. I was interested in the ideas enough to watch the movie. I definitely want to read the series now.
Read a couple of chapters since my library borrow expired, didn't read further. watched the movie this past week and had the same feeling, it's just very distant, like I don't feel any connection with any of the characters, which is fine but I just need some connection at some level. Guess it's not something for me.
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Amazing review, from both of you! Yeah the informations at the beginning are needed. Yet they never mention that in the Dune Universe there is no AI. Thats a oversight.
I like the fact that in Dune, there are no good or bad guys, and no hero to save the day. All of them are selfish and just looking their own interests.
I read Dune years ago. I'm one of the few who liked the movie by David Lynch but that's because I love Alia's character so much and love how it's portrayed in the movie. I can't wait to go see the new version as well.
That being said, it is an heavy book and I would definitely recommend someone to watch the movie first to actually get an idea of what's going on. It can help understand the book better and not feel too overwhelmed by the amount of info dumping in the book. It's like having a very detailed synopsis if that makes sense? đ
I haven't read the book yet. I watched the film and felt it did an excellent job of setting up the world building. My understanding is there is more information in the book, but the nice thing about the film is it gave me an overview and I don't feel like it has spoiled much for me for the book. A lot of what happens in the film is predictable and I was told beforehand that the movie is basically just setting up the pieces for the most part so I didn't go into it expecting a complete story. I am looking forward to reading the book now to expand my knowledge of this world which seems extremely interesting and to see what happens next as things start to pick up pace.
Interesting perspective - for me not caring about the characters as people kind of IS the point of Dune. The subtext for the story is about the dangers which can be posed by identifying too strongly with a political figure, so the way the narrative keeps you feeling somewhat detached from the individual people in the story is actually something that does serve the book's overall theme. If you found Paul a relentlessly compelling figure who you empathise deeply with at all times, it would be much harder to recognise and accept that a lot of the choices (or "choices", which is of course another big theme of the book, to what extent choices are really choices if they are made with near-perfect knowledge of their outcomes) he makes are extremely morally dubious at least if not outright malign. But from the perspective of having an enjoyable time reading a book I definitely recognise the problems this poses. It's part of what has always made Dune so fascinating to me, it's basically a gigantic cautionary tale that invites you to recognise qualities of the characters without fully identifying with them
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She really is :D And I hope you enjoy the movie!!!
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Empire of the vampire is amazing itâs awesome if you like name of the wind you will Love this but itâs way better then the name of the wind it took me a little less then a month to read and usually big books like that take me forever to read and the plot TWISTS omg đ± just read it and enjoy your time
The book was great. But the movie was amazing!!