Sound Demo and Review | DIY Sound Group 1299 and Volt 10 Custom Home Theater Speakers
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- čas přidán 4. 08. 2024
- The DIY Sound Group 1299 and Volt 10 speakers are finally completed and installed in my home theater. Here is some more information on the speakers, as well as some sound demos and my initial thoughts on how they perform.
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Demo Material:
Hans Zimmer: Live In Prague amzn.to/2IheU3F
Metallica Through The Never amzn.to/2D9Rwkg
John Wick Chapter 2 amzn.to/2DgoyPL
Avengers: Infinity War amzn.to/2IiF8Th
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 amzn.to/2IiF8Th
Measurement Equipment:
MiniDSP UMIK-1 amzn.to/2X8vtSw
Tripod Mic Stand amzn.to/2InT0fd
Home Theater Equipment:
Yamaha RX-A 3070 HT Receiver amzn.to/2ROqxzK
Crown XLS1002 (Updated Version) amzn.to/2AXTtQ4
Dayton Audio Ultimax UM15 Subwoofer amzn.to/2WOukiV
Roku Ultra HD amzn.to/2qFtZB0
PS4 amzn.to/2T1t5vO
Navepoint 25U Threaded Rack bit.ly/25URack
Tripp Lite Isobar Surge Protector amzn.to/2DwSqcy
Monoprice 8 Inch Amber Speakers amzn.to/2JSSnI7
Monoprice 8 Inch Alpha Speakers amzn.to/2T4w7iE
8 Inch Metal Can Enclosure amzn.to/2JY13gI
Stereo Integrity HS-24 Subwoofers: bit.ly/SIHS24
Sinbosen FP20000Q Clone amp: bit.ly/FP20000Q
Wiring Materials
Monoprice 12 Gauge Speaker Wire amzn.to/2DcYwgm
FosPower 14AWG OFC Speaker Wire amzn.to/2HNxUGt
4-pole Speakon Connector Plate amzn.to/2UYvIyN
Neutrik NL4FRX 4-Pin Connector amzn.to/2HWD2rf
Monoprice Banana Plugs amzn.to/2GhHnme - Jak na to + styl
TY for quality all around, the builds and the so well done video followup . .
waiting to see the 24's . .
Thanks William, appreciate it. Coming soon...
Awesome!!! I have seen how hard you have worked to put your system together. Apreciate you sharing. Enjoy Brother. ✌
Thanks Orin 🙂 I've spent a few hours on them... lol
I can't wait to see the 24's get down in your basement!
That system is going to be amazing when you’re done. Really enjoyed your build vid!
Thanks Villaman! Keep up the good work with your videos! Liked the recent ones with the SVS subs...
Fantastic job man!
Kudos man! Great job!
Love diy builds..nice work
Very nice setup, and a great choice in speaker components for your surround system, Eminence speakers are so underrated, most people dom't realize that pro musicians use eminence speakers in their electric guitar and bass guitar amplifiers. Can't wait to see when you install the 24"subs and give a sound demo! 👍👍👍
They definitely have a great sound! Hopefully will have 1 built this next week and do some demos. We'll see what the kiddo let's me do in his nap times lol
@ Life of Bliss, I am most definitely looking forward to experiencing the sound demo when your able to post it!!
Dude aswome set up 💪👍🔥...i wish i had them
HELLO SIR
JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW GREAT THE SPEAKERS ARE..MY FAVORITE ONES ARE THE TWO TOWERS AND THE CENTER ONE..THEY LOOK AND SOUND GREAT..100% AWESOME JOB..
Appreciate it Scott!
Great demo
Thanks for posting. Interested in your overall impression once the subs are in place. Also a request, try the volts in stereo and let us know what you think!
I'll do that soon! I'd like to play with REW a bit more first and give some more data on them as well.
Excellent progress, do keep up the good work! I'd love to hear the 1299s one of these days, but I'm quite happy with my 1099s for my LCR. I also use the Volt 10s for the side rears and the rear backs. Then I've got the Volt 6 for the overhead height channels.
I can't wait to see the further progress you have in store for your system, especially with the 24" subwoofers. I've considered them before, but I've wound up with just using 21" and 18" drivers instead within my space.
I've never looked back at pre-made products at the store again. lol
Ha... "Just 21s and 18s". Bigger than 99% of all other home theaters! I bet they sound great man!
Yea the 1099s sounded great when I heard them. A friend has a set but I've only listened to them for a few hours as he lives out of town. Very accurate and capable speakers for sure. You've got a heck of a system it sound like. I'm looking to replace the speakers in my 2 overhead monoprice Ambers with Volt 8s eventually. It looks to be a pretty easy swap, screw holes line up from a thread I've seen on AVSForum. You'll see if I do it obviously.
@@LifeofBliss Haha, yeah just 21s and 18s, no big deal right? Heh.
The Volt 6 are incredibly amazing, so no doubt the Volt 8 will serve you incredibly well. :)
Very nice job!
Good job bro! 👍
Great video!
congrats on your viewer success! much deserved! would be interesting if you did a 5.2.4 configuration to compare it to your 5.1.2. My hometheater is more geared towards movie viewing. Maybe even a mass consumer avr (denon x4400h for example) versus the high amp capabilities you have. I find the idea of dedicating an amp to the LRC speakers the most compelling. Just a few thoughts. Thanks!
Thanks man, I've been very fortunate with all the support! My setup would be very difficult to make a 4 point atmos setup without having very visible wires unfortunately. I felt the space just didn't allow for it and thought the more simple 2 point system worked better. I will be reviewing the emotiva XPA-7 soon to go over receiver vs separate amp soon. I had an older emotiva LPA-1 for a few months with this setup but a channel died on me. Planning on getting it fixed, but I will say I really do enjoy a separate amp
You have a system to be proud of brother. I wouldn't swet the 80hz drop off for the surrounds as this is the most recommended cutoff for surrounds, the beastly sub's will gladly take it from there. That projector is pretty awesome with the lights off also.
Thanks man. Yea once those are up and running, 80 Hz will be the cutoff anyways. It'll be nice to use the towers for some 2 channel music or set them to full range when it's super late at night and I don't want to disturb the family too much lol.
Yea with the lights on and through the camera, it didn't look the best. Hard to capture. But in person even with low lights on in the bar, it's fantastic!
Glad to see some measurements of these things.
Once I become a little more educated on proper mic placement, what to look for, what graphs mean what... I'll do a more thorough video on them. I don't want to give out information I'm not sure about, but hope those gave you a good idea so far
like this Thanks for all your hard work😀
I use walls to reflect my surround speakers so is harder to pinpoint where the sound it coming from. Sound so much better imo
The Pirates of the Caribbean song on that disc has some serious low frequency. Love the video set and great job on the whole project.
You're not kiddin... That whole disk with subs on is amazing. Same with the Dark Knight set where everything stops besides some super low bass for a few seconds. That'll be a demo for the 24s for sure! Appreciate it man 🙂
Nice job! Very professionally done. Your measurements should change slightly after the speakers are broken in.
You should also do acoustic panel arrangement. after that it is inedible. :)) enjoy
The language is South African...that’s where I’m from...another cool video bro...what’s next??? Can’t wait... keep up the good work...👍🏼
Cool, thanks man! I just did a quick Google search and that's what it told me lol. I just started on the first sub box build, so should have that and a demo out soon. Probably do a little more measuring with REW on these and post that up first.
It was required to isolate mid-range speakers from main space in a separate small box.
Yes, and for adequate visibility of the frequency response graphs, it is advisable to use a logarithmic scale.
The mids (6 inch speakers) are a closed back design so no need to separate them from the woofers
Nice job man. The 1299's are really a great sounding speaker and should go great with the 24s The volts are also great .I have ten in the theater along with qsc 2150s for LCR
Heck of a setup man! I'm going to check out your room on AVS...
Thanks man I've been following your builds on there nice to see a fellow avs member on CZcams doing really good. It was awesome to see your 24 video shoot up as fast as it did over 400k views just awesome man. I still have a stereo integrity 24 just went a diffrent path so never ended up using it. My avs handle is HD0823. Here's the link for the article Scott Wilkinson wrote up
www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiWuvKkws7hAhUDOq0KHUa0D-cQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avsforum.com%2Fhome-theater-month-coldwater-creek-cinema%2F&psig=AOvVaw3rl85naF2zgrpIJkSothyg&ust=1555294672135841
Yea man I've seen you over there.
And dude... that theater build is amazing! That's awesome you were recognized in the HTOTM! Truly amazing work. Very jealous you have a dedicated room man.
Thanks !!!!
DIYSG speakers are stupid bargains!! I love mine.
Awesome video Kyle! Your setup is going to be beast!
I just ordered the Hans Blu-ray too. Always looking out for great demo material.
very cool you're checking out and commenting on other channels, both of you guys are doing a great job to help people...
Thanks man, it's getting there! You'll love that disk btw...
I think it’s cool youthman watches and comments too, many just like doing their own videos and not watching others it shows youthman is still willing to learn a few things from others. Bottom line, no1 knows EVERYTHING about HT, one big learning curve for all involved. That’s why I do it. It’s cool. I’ve had the zimmer Blu-ray in my watch list for far too long now on eBay, and this video made me pull the trigger😂. My question is, is @Joe N Tell going to stick with these speakers?😂😂😂
I am going to pick that up!
You're gonna love it! Especially with those UM18s
Fantastic System so looking forward to the Subwoofers. On and I purchased the Han Zimmer Blu-ray.
Thanks man. You won't regret it! One of the best concert videos I've ever seen
Awesome video and would you get TWEETERS for the Surrounds in the future?
Tweeters are unnecessary... 😉 Search DIY Sound Group Volt 10. They are a coaxial design with a compression driver (tweeter) mounted behind the woofer. Those are what I have running back there
wow i love it nice bliss keep up buddy
Thanks man. I meant to tell you I've seen one of your videos on the past before you mentioned you had a channel! It was your most popular one of course 😉 I need to check out that projector unboxing today...
Life of Bliss thanks men im new doing this videos but i trying 😀 hope you like it buddy i love how the DIY looks wow very nice sistem enjoy you deserve 👍🏻
You sir, have a nice house.
Thank you sir. Took about a year to get most of the basement done. Still some work to be done, but we love it. You can see how it started if you go back a ways on my channel. Looked a bit different back then 😉
I can't wait for him to finish the subs.
Me too... I wish he'd hurry up...
sir, can you show us a schematic diagram how you interconnected the all the multiple speakers in each box..it would be nice if you include the values of each components..thank you,,
I enjoy your show a lot I stumble upon your videos while researching home theater setups I just recently got some free tower speakers. my current speakers are pinnacle gold classic towers they're pretty old I was wondering instead of building brand new towers would you recommend I should just upgrade the tweaker and the drivers ( I'm assuming that's what they are called it the big 8 inch speakers that are in my tower I'm not sure what the proper term for that is? As my first project?
Thanks man. Yea that is definitely an option, just find some good drivers that will fit as replacements. You'll probably want to make a new crossover as well. You can either look on parts express for one that would fit your needs or look into building one from scratch
This is what I call a home theater setup. I’m curious how it performs when you hook up some active subs. I assume you have a 3 feet ceiling between your basement and the first floor? I mean sensitivity of 99 dB each speaker at 1 m distance is incredible high. Furthermore, the Yamaha amp you use, which model is it? Great 👍🏻 video.
Thanks man. I had the Dayton UM15 hooked up for the movie stuff, but not for the measurements. I don't think it's quite 3 ft between, closer to 18-24 inch. Using the Yamaha RX-A3070. My emotiva LPA-1 just blew up on me this past week actually. Will be looking for a replacement sometime soon...
, I've never heard of Volt speakers ? nice because I like more bass coming from speakers instead of just using a subwoofer for your main bass. although a subwoofer is a must, especially for movies but I like my music to have enough low end to where I actually have to cut back on the bass output on my receiver. kind of like the older Cerwin Vega tower speakers, love them by the way. there is no substitute for larger woofers.
so many manufacturers are going with smaller woofer sizes most don't get the combination of a good quality cabnet, crossover, and actual driver choice. the port design is equally as important for good bass as well as a good high quality amp/receiver with a HIGH CURRENT CLASS A amp design. good to see someone choose speakers of this type.
thumbs up !!!
Thanks Tim! Yea the volts are a really cool design, especially for surrounds. I'll do some more testing and measurements on all of the speakers soon and post the results.
I gotta say, after some more movie listening, these things just keep getting better. Watched Ready Player One and it was amazing. The depth and realism of the larger drivers is really something... Pretty cool. I actually have an Emotive LPA-1 amp, but it literally died on my last week! Looking to do something else in the future as well as get this one fixed. I'll definitely make some content on whatever I go with
Life of Bliss , Emotiva just came out with a new 800 watt amp. for the money compared to other high quality amps out there, you really caint go wrong with Emotiva.
I have a 1976 Pioneer amp/receiver. damn things weighs a 100 pounds which is the transformer mostly but my God will it crank my AR tower speakers. Acoustic Research, side mounted 10 inch woofers. I have two pair of these that I bought at a garage sale about 15 years ago.
I recently purchased a pair of JBL towers that I returned, no comparison.
the difference was night & day
Heck yea man, hard to beat done old school power!
whaaaaaat its going to b giant system
Would the duel 10in center be better than any of the quad 5 and 6In centers from Klipsch and with the diy version how much watts max rms can it take iv been looking to upgrade from my dual 8in bic would they duel 10in diy be worth it
I can't really say one would be better than the other, all depends on what you prefer sound wise. I will say I like the larger drivers as I feel they sound more lifelike, but again that's my personal opinion. These are the 1299 model, so they have the 12 inch drivers, but these can handle over 600 watts (maybe even 800, is have to look it up). They can handle a huge amount if power but they don't need a lot to get loud in a home theater setting due to their high sensitivity.
for sound testing try Eric Kunzel and the Cincinnati pops orchestra, "time warp" wow the impact this has on your speakers and the sound effects is amazing... but use at your own risk, I guarantee everything better be up to par, if not you WILL know it after playing this.
I'll check that out, thanks!
Has three 24 inch subs with no projector screen. Lol, I like your priorities sir.
I'm glad we're on the same page 😉 Actually trying to get a screen material comparison going soon and will get a screen made up after that. But gotta be honest, with all the lights out (besides some low lights in the bar area), the image really looks fantastic on the gray wall
You made a cool video
Nice basement set up. I would like me a man cave one day. I learned Alot from your build👍
Always measure outside or in a large (very large room with gate)
What we is your room and speaker playing together, not the speakers themselves.
Looks great. Unfortunately the camera mic is not doing them justice. Looking at these myself.
Yea it's a $60 rode Mic, but nothing like hearing them in person unfortunately. They are amazing, have no doubts if you decide to get them
People love drivers all across the board. Look up the KEF Uni Q speakers. They try to have the LEAST amount of drivers for a more defined sound. Many driver may LOOK impressive but you have interference patterns everywhere when the soundwaves from all those drivers cross each other. And that means distortion. And you have the vowels and consonants coming from a foot apart rather than coming from the same point (like it does with a mouth). And you have the texture and the tone coming from a foot apart as well. The plucking of an instrument is coming from a foot away from the tone of the instrument. But with KEF Uni Q speakers you don't have that problem and the sound is more 3D (what hifi is all about).
Yes brilliant film 5:16🤘🤘
Is your av receiver putting out enough power for the speakers? i had a browse through the website and those speakers have a very high output rating
Good question... Even thought these speakers have a power handling of around 800 watts, they have sensitivity of 99db - 2.83v/1m. Meaning at 1 watt, they reach 99 db. For each 3 db increase (perceived double in sound) you need to double the wattage. So 2w=102db, 4w=105db, 8w=108db... and so on. That gets pretty loud in a hurry... The Yamaha RX-A3070 has a 2 channel output of 165w per channel. It's most likely much less than that when full surround sound is playing, likely around 100w per channel. But, that is still plenty of power to get close to 120db, which is extremely loud. But these speakers are capable of extremely loud volumes
That said... my Emotiva LPA-1 external amplifier just died on me this last week unfortunately. It was a 125w x 6 channel amp. I am looking to replace that with something more powerful for better dynamics. I have something in the works, we'll see if it happens... ;)
Right on Amigo. Those units gotta be some kinda epic.... I wish I could give ya a REW lesson to get ya going... to start, at least, switch your graphs to logarithmic view. Almost everything you need to really see is below 1000 hz...
And i hope you have a plan for dealing with the noise from the glass doors (take a stethoscope and listen to the glass with music ranked to hear if/how nasty the noised it's making are.). Cheers.
I finally figured out how to get the logarithmic view on lol... I have much to learn!
The blackout curtains I have up are actually fairly thick and heavy. There was a noticeable difference after putting those up. But I don't know if I'll be able to do much more with them. We use that back door quite a bit so I still need to be able to open it lol. I will be adding absorption panels to some walls soon. I'll have to look into some possibilities for the sliding door as well.
@@LifeofBliss I recently built (still tuning some, loads of options to increase the good/tune them...) with 12" coax eminence with eminence compression driver and 18" woofers in an H frame... I kinda no longer comprehend making speakers with new fangled tiny long throw drivers....
Glass is evil, and you have 2 giant pieces of it directly behind your head getting pummeled by sound, if/when you cure that things will improve dramatically. With my windows in my listening room I took my Dad's stethoscope and listened to the glass, it was making a horrid shrieking sound... the thing is, windows and door are not only vibrated by the sound (everything is...) but also by the structure they are mounted to, in my case cinder block... evil combo. So, it's not possible to stop it vibrating, so what to do? My take, after a few tries I got it to work, is to change the vibration via damping. I applied 2" 30 or 50 duro sorbothane pucks to the windows until the vibrations were contained to low frequencies somewhat in harmony with the music (6 pucks per window plus some smaller pieces, it has zero wife appeal factor, in fact, it's has a negative rating...). Big change in the rooms sound. So my suggestion is to try and dampen the glass... or go for some thick wood doors that you, being an ace builder, would make yourself.
That more or less hard roll-off at 50 hz is going to/might/should make mating with the subs easier...
Interesting... I'll look into those man, thanks! And yea it is a nice spot for it to roll of like that at least.
8:45
Why do you use measurements at all when you smooth them down to 1/6?
After all, you want to equalize room modes out. I would recommend to use the smoothing as little as possible and measure at the listening position.
Yea at the listening position would have been better. This was some of my first experiences with measurements and REW. You have to do a little smoothing to not just see a bunch of jagged lines. I don't use any smoothing when looking at sub responses though
did you run REW with out the receiver applying the processing? It looks like the center channel dropped at 80hz almost exactly when the recejver would be cutting the signal to it. Same thing with the mains... if the receiver identified them as Large it would cut them at around 60hz. You have to make sure the receiver is set to Pure direct or what ever the option on your AVR is to allow pure sound without any processing applied
Ah, see? That's why I didn't get too far into that... The processing was off I thought. I changed it to manual EQ to leave everything flat and the speakers to Large for the measurements. The other options were a few YPAO settings and a "Through" setting. I'm guessing the Through one would have been better for the measurements... Could also be why I'm not feeling the lows like I thought I would with the towers. I mean, they are ported to ~35Hz tuning... DIdn't know that Large would still cut them at 60. But makes sense if so cause that's where they dropped. I appreciate the insight man, I'll try that later on!
Life of Bliss Yes its very likely that was your problem then. Setting the eq to flat wont change the cut off freq the AVR is cutting the speakers... and with the single 15 inch sub not being able to keep up you will be missing lots of low extension. Do you have a preamp on your set up? If you do...you can connect the computer to the preamp directly for audio and send only video signal to the AVR so you can still see the REW on the projector screen. If not then make sure the AVR is set to no processing and just run the test again the same way you did last time. Also I would recommend positioning the mic at listening position. This will give you a more accurate measurement of what YOU are listening. with your room layout you might not have a-lot of room gain, but those 4 12” should hit the 30hz no with issues and actually have authority at that freq.
I'll give that a try soon. I need to do some more research and reading on REW, but I'll get something up soon with more measurements. Thanks man!
Just came across your channel. Great Vid. Went to DYI Sound Group website. They look like they are OuT OF BUSINESS. Closed down. Any info you have to the contrary? Thanx
It's just one guy that runs the business as a side hustle. I think he was hit pretty hard getting any parts in with the covid situation like a lot of companies have. It's still operational as far as I know though
Maybe I missed it Alex: How do the 1099's and the Volts sound compared to your Swope Towers when it comes to two channel stereo critical listening? I understand they are more dynamic and efficient, but as far as sound quality for accuracy and long term listening sessions, what's your impression? Feel free to elaborate.. Thanks in advance!
I touched on this with the other comment, but I would rather listen to the swope towers than the volts for 2 stereo. The volts do great for detailed surround work, but I would enjoy the swopes better for music. The volts are accurate and don't fatigue, but lack some bass and depth.
I spoke on the 1299s in my other reply. Oh, and Alex didn't make the cut for the channel. My name is Kyle 😉
@@LifeofBlissWhoops. Sorry for that, Kyle. My mistake. Thanks for the helpful reply. I'll talk to Meniscus. They are just 30 minutes from my location. Mark has built crossovers for me in the past. I'm glad to see they're still in business.
I would defo use a power amp on these!!! Im using thx ultra 2 klipsch lcr 650 system and adding the sunfire tga 7400 was the best thing ever.
Funny you should say that... my emotiva LPA-1 just died on me this past week lol. But something is in the works...
Always the case my man. I did toy around with alot of different amps including the Bryston 9b st. I just couldn't justify the price tag in price comparison.
Your speakers look and sound amazing though. What a top class job.
Appreciate it Neal
I would be interested in your opinion of Star wars rogue one. I swear it's mixed funny or could be my receiver. 🤔
I'll have to rewatch it. Remind me in a few weeks and I'll let you know what I think. Hard to keep track of comments lol
How hard or a pain were they to build because I'm seriously thinking of going this route soon because the price cannot be beat? Thanks.
If you have decent tools (table saw being the most important, router is too) then not bad at all. Takes time, but saves money
mine drop off at exactly 60HZ too ..... but from 60Hz up they kick ass....my subs get turned on when i play anything
with lower stuff or i want it to sound full. But i haven't used them much since i got a stronger amp to my main speakers. It really woke them up. i only have 2 12's , if you threw more power your speakers would run you out of the room I'm sure. lol
Oh yea they ran me out with just the receiver, but added an Emotiva XPA-7 recently for more clear power. Love em, but definitely benefit from having subs
How do u have the speakers all wired up? Are all of them 8 ohm speakers and each one is individually wired to crossover and the one input from amp to crossover? So what’s total ohm load per cabinet?
All speakers in the cabinet are wired into a crossover located inside. The find load is 8 ohms. 1 output from the amp or receiver is used to power each box
Life of Bliss 👌🏻 what’s the ohms of each speaker?
@@themodifiedlife2774 I'd have to look that up. Check out diy sound groups website, they go over all the components there
So basically they are some high end Pro audio/PA speakers in a "home friendly" cabinet. Confirms what ive thought all along
Almost. This has been brought up on AVSForums and Erich has responded.
I am amidst a current entertainment center upgrade myself. I am building my own towers with old pioneer cabinets and am awaiting the amplifier for my 48" subwoofer to arrive. Well... Ok, 4 twelve inch subs. Much easier on the budget than two 24"s...
Replacing drivers like that is a great way to upgrader old cabinets. Yea 12s would be a but easier depending on the model... but you should get some great sound especially if you disperse them throughout the room
Great set up man I used to use Klipsch until I heard these and they can't compare imo
The more I listen to them, the happier I get lol. They were definitely worth the effort
@@LifeofBliss glad you enjoy them hard work pays off
You should put up some acoustic panels to tame those hard surfaces
Yea that's coming soon as well. Putting in an order this week for 5 movie poster prints that will be made into panels 🤘🏼
Nice build. Did you use only one Crown XLS amplifier?
How's the quality compare named brand like emotiva/monolith?
Yea the crown was for my DIY Ultimax 15 sub. I feel those pro amps are great for subs but the noise floor is a bit high for mains, especially with these being so sensitive. I just added an Emotiva amp to this setup (XPA-7) and love it. I'll have a review out soon
@@LifeofBliss thanks...... What's your thought about using this to drive the front 3 (LCR), I have a set of Polk...... Not sure if this will sound good
@@nobodynobody1235 using a crown XLS to drive the front 3? Sorry, not exactly sure what you're asking. But you'll need at least 2 of the xls amps if so, they are only 2 channel.
@@LifeofBliss yeah I meant getting 2 of this amp so will use only 3 if the 4 channels
@@nobodynobody1235 Well if you are after big power, this is definitely an option. Polk doesn't make super sensitive speakers either, so you probably won't experience much floor noise. One thing you may run into is not getting enough input power from your receivers RCA outputs, so the volume will be very low. These pro audio amps require a little more voltage than most consumer products usually deal with. I tried hooking it up to my regular speakers once and didn't get much volume out of it. I have whats called an ArtBox pro which boosts the signal from the receiver before going to the amp. Just something to think about before going that route as it will be an added cost if you end up needing 2 of them
Is it hard to make the speakers? they look sick!
It takes some tools and time... But not too hard. I have a few videos of the build on my channel
Question: if I had 15” subs like tower ones
How much can the sub move before it gets into the zone of blowing?
Like how many centimeters can it move in & out
This is dependent on which 15s are used and the xmax
Yea all depends on which speaker. Then it will depend on enclosure type, Xmax, rms power, and how much power you are feeding it. I'd suggest heading to the DIY speaker section on AVSForums and do a little research. Or start a thread about a specific speaker if you have one in mind
Life of Bliss & Home theater addict
This kind
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A model 5123
Like others said, xmax is the measurement you want for cone movement. If the specifications say a sub woofer driver has an xmax of 13mm, that is a half-inch. That means the cone will move 13 mm out, and 13 mm in for a total of an inch of travel.
I know I'm mixing metric and imperial measurements. ;)
Voice of Reason where can you see what the xmax is
So why no screen for the projector?
The gray is actually a good color for projectors. A lot of people will paint their walls instead of a screen. That said, I just got some sample materials for a diy screen I'll be making. The theater and basement has been a work in progress. Check back soon for a videos on the materials comparison and screen build 😉
Im new to the home theater world. I have one 12” sub and it rattles my house. What is the difference between having a 12” sub and having 6 12’s in your towers. I’m having a hard time understanding why you would need a sub.
Well those 12s are more for the mid-bass and not the real low frequencies subwoofers play. Just a different speaker design. I don't know the exact cutoff frequency for the 12s, but they will play around 50 Hz up to 3000-5000 Hz usually in a 3 way tower design. If they go too low, I believe it will cause the other sounds in that frequency range to become more distorted. Subwoofers usually don't play any higher than 100-150 Hz and can play those lower frequencies since they usually have a better xmax (distance the cone/voice coil can move). Subs can play down into the range where humans can't hear anymore (under 20 Hz) but can definitely be felt and adds to the experience.
These multiple 12s help to make the sound more natural and effortless. A lot less movement is needed to create the same volume as 6 6" speakers would take. Less movement usually equates to less distortion as well. I'm not an expert in audio engineering by any means, this is just what I've learned after a lot of research and time on forums. Hope that helps Michael
Life of Bliss thanks for information. Love your speakers! It’s on my bucket list to build some really awesome HT speakers one day.
why not tune the ports to lower frequencyes ?
They didn't really need to go lower since I'll be using with subs 99% of the time. I was able to adjust my EQ settings a bit and get more low end I was missing before.
Imagine with the sub*pictures in head *
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Soon my friend... soon.
too bad those 1299 speaker kits arent available anymore. ive also noticed, they dont have anything in stock. is diy sound group going out of business?
No they have had stock issues with everything going on this year. They actually still offer the 1299s from what I understand, but they are not in stock very often.
Your room needs acoustic elements like absorber and diffusors.. But very nice speakers.
I agree sir. Been looking into that for a few weeks. Just ordered some materials last night. Should have a pretty cool video coming up on movie poster absorption panels. Thanks man
Unfortunately the 1299s aren't on the web page anymore.
Yea they are sourcing some new compression drivers from what I heard I believe. Youd have to email them to see where they are at with that
@@LifeofBliss Will do. Thanks
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No tweeters for the rear speakers ??
they're coax design, so the compression tweeter is hidden under the dustcap of the woofer.
@@Marzen216 Okay I see .. KEF is designing coax loudspeakers too so I think you can achieve a great sound quality with them ... not my taste, I prefer when the tweeter and the woofer are separate, but why not .. this is the perfect design, on the paper, for the best frequency alignment result, so yeah, for a rear speaker, it does make sense ..
I don't see 1299's on their site. Only 1099's.
I bet it sounds awesome! I am pretty darn impressed with my dayton audio speakers I have in my room. And man they are inexpensive. Not cheap. Inexpensive. All in I have like 400$ Into my 5.1 system and its great. Shakes the whole house and gets ear piercingly loud and clean.
Denon 7.1 avr Dayton towers, center, and rears And a 300 watt mono car amp running off a 30 amp DC power supply on a 100$ crossfire 12 in car subwoofer in a custom ported box. But I will be adding 2-15in subs on a crown 1200 watt amp very soon to get the real low 20hz in your chest bass.
Heck yea man. Dayton makes some great quality components. I love my 15 inch Ultimax, but for the large basement it's just not giving the output I need (or I should say want. It's pretty loud as it is, but I need MOAR!!). Your upgrades will be awesome!
@@LifeofBliss Yea. I honestly couldn't believe how good daytons sound for the price. Kinda insane really. My system is probably too loud for 99% of the world, BUT I an the 1% that it is never loud enough! I live for great loud audio..
I love your setup and your idea for subs is solid. FYI chest thump doesn't hit at 20 Hz, it's between 80 Hz and 150 Hz. Think kick drum.
@@voiceofreason9238 Oh i get the 30 hz and above chest feel, just need the low lows, like 15 hz chest feel. That's why i am adding 2 15's ported low. 2-8's 1-12 and 2-15's should work nicely.
He means the air being sucked out of your lungs feel 😉😂 I'm hoping for the same down low...
i think that center channel makes those towers optional
i'd buy one large and sealed like that
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Es posible participar con nosotros en el establecimiento de la casa de Dios con un hermoso teatro, una de sus obras destacadas.
Y que el Señor bendiga los frutos de tu trabajo.❤👍👏👏
I suggest placing your measurement mic in the listening position, not directly in front of the speaker.
Thanks man. Yea I've done some more reading and that's what all of it pretty much has said. I read somewhere that placing the Mic 2ft from the tweeter area was good to do, but that was just a quick search prior to making that video. Obviously not the best search lol. I'll get some more measurements out this week
Depends what you want to measure. If you want the speakers, he did a good job. If you want the room as-heard, do it from the couch.
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I didn't know Gary Shandling played guitar.
Its officially *the bass-ment
Awesome Build bro But you made huge mistake with drivers eminence r were good speakers back in day but now they horrible speakers comparing with new speakers
I could also hear the tongue click on my $0.99 Phone speaker... cool
Sitting 7 feet away from speakers designed for an auditorium ftw.
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Two midrange speakers in one box - you will have big difraction.
Hey could you build me the same center channel I'll pay you?
Sorry man, don't have the time to take on other projects besides my own right now...
Those are BEGGING for a nice subwoofer. They sound amazing, but they really need some bass.
Coming soon 🙂
replace a 12'' bass driver with a 12'' sub-bass driver with a lot of excursion per tower -_0
I got some 24" subs coming that will solve any bass issues 😉
You are showing your measurements in a linear scale instead of a log scale. As is stands, you're essentially stretching the response to exaggerate the right side of the X axis.
Yea I'll do some reading up on REW so I'm a little more educated next go round
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Get yourself a mini DSP then you can balance it all out shouldn't need a subwoofer bass reflex drivers would have been better
You I have a minidsp 2x4 hd for the subs when I get them going. I'd need a larger model like an 8x10 or the Dayton 4x8 model that came out recently for the mains.
If You got some ability to put together a circuit board I wouldn't go with the mini DSP ? I go with the linkwitz lab, and probably the ASP over DSP would be better and his the master of active crossover
I'll have to take a look into that... Probably stick with the MiniDSP for the subs at least since I already have one, but I'll research the Linkwitz Lab
I don't understand how the surrounds could be good sound with just the single large woofer.
It's a coaxial design. There is a compression driver than screws into the back of the main woofer. Sound comes through the acoustically transparent dust cap on the 10 inch woofer. So it has both a woofer and "tweeter" (compression driver) in the design
Hope you don't have a problem with kids or pets having speakers without grills !
Not yet I dont!
Sorry to say but you dont hear bass because you tuned it to 34-35hz if you had tuned the box to around 50-60hz you wouldnt have that problem because it would have a f3 or f10 of 30-40hz tuning these speaker boxes to 35hz you are letting go of the majority of the potential of these pa woofers... If you would make a bandpass box for these they would do even better..even so love the review not trying to say you are wrong just trying suggest a good fix for the problem
No offense taken, appreciate the insight. I think I also had the settings wrong in the receiver. I turned the tuning off and let it on manual EQ and Large for the speakers. Someone said they still cut off at 60 Hz unless it is set to pure or through, so I need to go back and take some more measurements that way. If that was the case it makes sense the ported boxes dropped off at 60. We'll see though... I'll do a better video with measurements once I figure it out more
@@LifeofBliss looking forward to the new video
Dude. Spend like $80 - $100 on a used LG V20 to do your sound test videos. Man, when you switch from the voiceover to the "Now for some listening demos." segment, I mean that was so disappointing. You could even use the mic you used for the voiceover for the sound demo. I wouldn't have said anything if you just had the one method of recording.
That was recorded with a $60 RODE Mic. Gotta realize that the recording being compressed during editing then compressed again on CZcams won't be like the real deal. The voiceovers were done with the UMIK-1 I used for the measurement sweeps. First time I have been able to mess with that Mic in both settings actually. But feel free to send over that V20 if you want some demos done with one!
One question: Do your ears still work?
Huh?? 😉
99 @ 1M? These things should rage harder.