Home Theater Speakers Build | Diy Sound Group 1299 and Volt 10
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- This video goes over the construction of my new home theater speakers for my home theater room. The Aggressive 1299s and Volt 10s come from DIY Sound Group and are an amazing value if you are looking to build DIY speakers. There are many other DIY speaker kits to choose from on their site at www.DIYSoundGroup.com
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Volt 10 Cut Lists:
Please keep in mind that these were built specifically for my walls and at different angles. Your situation may vary...
1st Box:
Back- 20" x 15.5"
Top- 14" x 11"
Baffle- 14" x 14" (included w/ kit)
Front- 14" x 7" (trimmed to size w/ angled cut)
Bottom- 14" x 5" (trimmed to size w/ angled cut)
Sides- Cut to size and trimmed with flush trim bit
2nd Box:
Back- 20" x 15.5"
Top- 14" x 9"
Baffle- 14" x 14" (included w/ kit)
Front- 14" x 6" (trimmed to size w/ angled cut)
Bottom- 14" x 6" (trimmed to size w/ angled cut)
Sides- Cut to size and trimmed with flush trim bit
1299 Center Channel
Top- 40" x 16.5"
Baffle- 40" x 14.75" (Included with kit)
Bottom- 38.5" x 15.5"
Back- 38.5" x 14"
Sides- 14" x 16.25"
Braces- 15.5" x 13.25"
1299 Ported Towers
Baffle- 45" x 14.75" (Included with kit, modified and extended. To be flush trimmed with router)
Top- 14.75" x 17"
Sides- 44.25" x 16.25"
Bottom- 13.25" x 15.5"
Back- 44.25" x 13.25"
Port- 13.25" x 8.25"
Braces- 15.5" x 13.25"
Port Dimension- 13.25" x 9" x 2" This will give the box a tune of 34-35 Hz. When cutting the port opening with the front baffle in place, this adds an extra 0.75 inches to the length of the port, so this is why the port board is cut to 8.25" long for a total length of 9 inches.
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I love the fact that you explaining everything you do in the process! Very useful for beginners of DIY! Thank you.
Glad it helped bud!
Kyle, killer job bro. Those are going to be some BEASTLY speakers for your setup. It's all coming together so nicely. I wish I had 1/100th of your building ability. Keep up the great work.
Thanks man! I cannot wait to get these painted up and in the basement! And I feel the same about your graphic design and editing abilities 😉
Just one little tip from someone who built quite a lot of big box speakers
you need to add a spacer in the middle of the crossover to prevent damage from vibration .
For the middle I make the spacer an 1/8th of an inch smaller , before mounting the crossover
I put some hot glue on it and then quickly place the crossover onto the spacers and screw it down .
Once the hot glue sets completely the crossover will feel really solid and i promise it wont vibrate anymore .
If you ever need to take the crossover off a hairdryer is more than enough heat to soften the hot glue and take it off
That's a very good tip, thank you!
@@LifeofBliss No problem man we need to help each other out and besides it would be a shame if your crossover would crack .
Should there be some sort of barrier between the mids and woofers?
The mids are a closed back design, so they do not share any airspace with the woofers. Typical open back speakers would need a separate chamber though. Very common question with this design
Second video have watched and not disappointed. And that filler looks much better than pillow batting.
Great job! I’ve been anxiously waiting for this video for a while! Can’t wait to see the finished product!
Thanks man! Yea unfortunately hobbies take the back seat sometimes with priorities, but things are moving pretty quickly now, hopefully not long before these and the new sub is done!
Great video can’t wait to see the finished product
Thanks Darin, you and me both!
Super build & not to mention claps at each step
Awesome job! Wish I had that kind of patience!
The smooth transition from baffle to the sides help with diffraction.
Seems like your home cinema will be able to play louder than the speakers in an actual cinema :P
"I carefully drilled out a" *smack* LOL great video man! Definitely gonna be using this in a couple weeks here!
Super nice build man 👍🏻looking forward the next video
This is a really impressive build. Awesome video man
I love custom builds
Great video showcasing great craftsmanship. I wish I had the skills and tools to build at such high quality. Can't wait to watch the next video.
Thanks Michael. Working on painting them up this week and will post the video soon
Unbelievably great job! I wish I could hear the finished product!
Thanks Craig. And you can hear them. I'll do a demo with my $100 Mic that you can listen to the compressed audio from youtube on you cell phone speaker. It's bound to show off its strengths that way... 🤔 😉 wish you could too my friend
Dude i seriously believe you are my spirit animal😂! Id love to build a massive center channel with 8 inch mids and 3 inch highs
Hahaha that's quite the honor sir. I'll try to live up to the expectations!! 😂 Have you checked out the Cobalt series from DIYSG? They have a dual 8 inch woofer speaker on there...
Nicely done. Looking forward to how the finish turns out!
Thanks man! Hopefully it warms up soon so I can paint
I have been waiting for this one :-) Good job and nice editing.
Thanks Greg. Believe it or not, it's difficult to make building boxes interesting in a video 😉 appreciate it!
Nice job wish i would've put my wave guide on top of my 1299 like that. Looking forward to the painting process.
I'm jealous you already can listen to yours! Thanks Damon, hoping to get them done very soon
We all know that one guy that's good at everything....geez I thought I had a little talent lol. Great job fella! And your videos are explained very well
Appreciate it man! I'm still learning... lots of practice and trial/error before getting even this far lol. Have a good one!
nice build super clean
Great Job Sir 👌
Solid build, awesome. Now you need to reinforce your room, haha
And unless you have a few acres of buffer zone your neighbors won't be very happy
Great video Kyle. I ordered three 1299 last week when Erich released these again for the first time in over two years. I took a screenshot of your cut list and will be starting a build thread using your design. Can't wait to see how they compare to my Vortex 15 and LaScala clones.
I will be very interested to hear your thoughts on how they stack up!
Wonderful
Awesome video bro, love the channel 👍🏻
Nice work.
Nice Build video!
so cool 😃
Beautiful!!! Great Stuff 👍 Always fun to see someone else's ideas.
We're kinda the opposite on builds - ha ha : ) I tore out my 8 speakers w/ 24 drivers and built two 8 foot tall towers and simply 1 "top of the food chain" full range driver on each. Prefer the sound of less / higher quality drivers after many years of surrounding myself with speakers : ) So, 2 drivers, 2 subwoofers now is my new #1 favorite - never heard such clarity.
Thanks man. Audio is cool in the fact that so many designs and setups can sound different and great at the same time.
@@LifeofBliss I know! Just bought my first BLUETOOTH Tube Amp and I was shocked that it actually had a warm tube sound - great stuff coming out.
Kyle, I have the DIYSG HTM12s and am absolutely blown away by their performance. I can only imagine what the 1299s would sound like, though they would be far too large for my 13.5 x 16 x 10 theater. Subscribing to watch your progress.
Thanks, yea I'm really excited to get everything painted up and running. I've heard great things about the HTM12s as well (along with most diysg products lol)
Very impressive!
Thanks Chris
great work .......great video..
Make a couple of videos on this topic.... Great material for videos
It is a good topic... unfortunately I only have experience with the ones I've built and a very small handful of others I've heard. Not enough that I'd feel comfortable making a video suggesting certain models. I'd have to build/listen to then for a decent bit before doing so. Maybe one day if I get some more time to build speakers I'll touch back to this. Have a good day man
Great build. I was checking out their Fusion series.
Yea they have so many fun looking builds on there... Hard not to spend too much money on things!
omg....thats lot of work....ughh...Good video !!
Just subscribed when Is the next video coming out? Very good building skills. Keep up the brilliant work and sharing your talent with us. All the best 👍🏼
Thanks Darren. Well the next video will be the prep and paint process. Unfortunately the high around where I live has been in the teens, so can't paint until it warms up a little. But we should get some warmer days soon and I'll get it done. Just don't want to rush it and have the paint not come out right...
Amazing work.. been loving binge watching this entire build.. helped me get through a bumpy flight on the way home the other day as i was watching the basement build... can’t wait to see these bad boys once they have your final treatment & fully assembled.. and to hear your thoughts/review once in your room. The center Chanel mainly produces voices... why 12” woofers??? Just matching the entire LCR??? Also curious your profession if you don’t mind me asking.. you make this look so easy when it’s really not when it comes to getting professional finish & results.
Glad I could help you out on the flight 😉 And yes, the center does do a lot of voices, but also does a lot more for the front stage. I think matching speakers helps a lot with uniform sound. And then there's the age old question... why not!?! 😂 As for a day job... I received my doctor of pharmacy a few years back and work for a local hospital. I grew up doing body work on cars and helping my dad build the house they are in today. I learned a lot of my drive and skill to do these diy projects from him. It's still a constant learning process, but very rewarding in the end. Thanks Brandon!
YESSSSS I'VE BEEN WAITING
Things are movin now, won't be long... 🤘
@@LifeofBliss GREAT job on these! I can't wait to see them in place!
Thanks Chris!
its cool to see u building good old real tower speakers im tierd of seeing home theater setups with tiny tiny little cube speakers that cant get all sounds out the freqency range and power handling your speaker setup will do i dont like tiny spkrs !!!!!
Dope
Speaker build that doesn't show cutting the holes for the speaker....priceless.
Check out diy sound groups website. The speaker kits come with front baffles or as complete flat packs.
Simply beautiful work and craftsmanship right there. I’m almost set to buy their 1099’s for my LCR’s but only one question. Why didn’t you use a full brace (without holes) on the top part of the speaker to isolate the mids and compression driver in their own sealed chamber?
The 1099 and 1299 have different mid range drivers. They are open back in the 1099 and have a sealed back on the 1299s. Compression drivers are sealed as well, so no need to make a separate chamber for them. I think I'll go over that in the next video as there have been quite a few questions on that. Which if you aren't building them and have the plans from DIYSG, I can see why it gets asked. Thanks Jose, hopefully you'll get those 1099s soon!
damn your good at woodworking bro !!
Appreciate it man, these turned out well
Great video! But please, roll your sleeves up when using the tables saw! I know it's a Sawstop, but if your arm gets pulled down with it there will still be damage.
Excited for the final product!
Hmm didn't think about that... Thanks Cooper. I'll keep that in mind! Should be warm enough to get painted up this next week!
It's not a Sawstop. It's a Ridgid.
Oh I missed what he meant by that. Yea it won't stop when I touch it. It'll stop when it's done cutting, whether that's wood or arm. Planning on only feeding it wood though...
Great video and I for one congratulate you on all your builds Life of Bliss! I know how much work it takes to film and edit good videos and yours a great and I am sure a huge help to people building these and other speakers.! I will ask you this as well, do you know of a DIY speaker pair the is highly sensitive with a huge soundstage? Thanks again!
Thanks man. I think I may have answered you on another post... but these 1299s and the 1099s are very sensitive at 99 dB @ 2.83v at 1 meter. Great sound stage and don't break the bank too bad if you don't mind doing a little work. JTR speakers are another great option if you wanna buy something ready to rock. A bit more expensive up front though
@@LifeofBliss Thank you so much. I should have checked the specs first as these are VERY sensitive. I have a son in college and I have tried to tell his buddies how sensitivity in speakers is a big deal overall when it comes to amp power and volume. These look they ROCK BTW and I would LOVE to have these! Good luck and hope you and your family stay healthy.
Love this build. Been eyeing the 1299's for awhile. I'm curious as to your opinion on the way the ported vs sealed enclosure sound. Keep up the great video's and thanks for putting in the time making them.
Thanks! Yea I'll have to do some listening to the center by itself then one of the towers by itself once it's done. I'll put out a video of some sound clips and my impressions for sure.
Ported is for shitty speakers....it's just the truth. A proper sealed box will always sound better. Also him moving the tweeter was stupid. There was a specific reason it was centered between two woofers
Shitty speakers? Sealed is always better? Lol pretty big generalizations and assumptions there. I'm curious as to why you think that woofer was placed there and the negative effects it would have moving it. I mean, the designer of the speaker gave me his thoughts and why it was designed that way, as well as what it would do by moving it. Interested in yours...
@@patrickrosington1174 moron troll. Obviously not a speaker designer.
How do u make a mono home speaker system?
I would like to learn. Want to go back to old school set up.
I have big doubts about the use of this wool in acoustics. A synthpon is needed, but from this as if she did not have to breathe when playing bass, she can throw harmful particles into the air - no?
I did a lot of research on this before installing the wool. Most do not find it would be an issue. I can always add a thin breathable material over the back of the port if I found it was in issue though. I also sprayed all of the wool with the contract adhesive after installation to try and lock all fibers into place. This material had some of the best acoustic properties which is why I used it.
@@LifeofBliss I know that I used it in construction but I can use it in the construction of acoustic systems, maybe in your case it is normal
Everything I read said that rockwool and traditional fiberglass insulation was great for damping and none of it will decrease volume. I don't believe it will be an issue, but there may be someone smarter out there who can correct me?
@@LifeofBliss czcams.com/video/i2RxOWm8dJ0/video.html
The synthetic winterizer is usually the best material for acoustics; it perfectly absorbs and reflects sound waves of 50x50%
@@LifeofBliss Hope you don't have children, that's really toxic to breath in. Have it only on sealed boxes I you must, but buy the real thing instead.
Great video and workmanship brother. Could you explain why you don’t make a separate enclosure for the mid-drivers within the large floor standing speakers? I’m not asking to critique you. I really do want to know. I am new to this stuff. I guess I figured the air movement from the subs might effect the mid driver movement. Thanks for the video and your time.
Yessir, the mid is actually a closed back design. It's not open to the enclosure, so the airspace doesn't effect it. I would have separate enclosures for it if it were a normal speaker 👍 not many speakers are closed back like the mids are
ALL OF THAT SAWDUST MADE ME SNEEZE
It was pretty nasty. I hate mdf dust
@@LifeofBliss good you're wearing a mask, its cancerous
I’ll be buying the exact same speakers soon for the front 3 speakers(when they restock). Sealed center and ported left and right my question is if I leave the baffle as is with woofers on top and bottom would using the same dimensions you are would I still have a port tune of 35hz??
Yea it should all be the same volume and port size. The speaker placement shouldn't matter. Good luck getting yours together!
I enjoyed watching the video. You did a great job on the build. My only complaint would be the wool insulation put in. Thereswaybetter stuff to throw in there thats more eco friendly not only for your equipment, but for people enjoying the system. Bad bad mistake throwing that junk in there. Your not just damaging your equipment by having that stuff in there and allowing all those small fibrous particle getying into the spider and even down in between the coil and magnents burning them up quicker than normal wear and tear, but your also hurting people that come over by having them breath in all those fibers the speakers are blowing throughout the room. I mean there are soo many better options than that, second skin makes some of the best products. Your spending all the money on building a quality system, why cheap out on wool insulation, makes no sense. But its not my stuff so it dont really matter, but cant wait to see the finished product!
Appreciate it man. And there are many products out there for damping, no doubt. I chose this based in the effectiveness (being very dense it breaks up the sound waves better). There is also plenty of data out there supporting the safety of mineral wool. I'll link below a thread with several studies done in a medical journal looking at mineral fibers. These aren't like subs that would have huge amounts of airflow, and I also did spray the entire inside of the enclosure/insulation with the adhesive spray after installing all of the mineral wool to help trap any fibers from shedding off. Just thought I would give you the reasoning behind my decision. I appreciate you explaining why you don't like it instead of being like some others who just wanna complain and call names. Here's the link if you are interested. www.gearslutz.com/board/bass-traps-acoustic-panels-foam-etc/347314-comparative-safety-rockwool-fiberglass-organic-fibers-review.html
Hi , Nice working with mask for install, but making it ported? It Will lose fibers, due airflow subs and gravity not also expose you to it? There are better options for that. Greets M
Na jaką cholere dajecie ta wełnę mineralną przez otwory bas refleks wełna szklana będzie rozjebana po całym brawo brawo żartujecie tylko ludzi
They don't make flat pack's for the 1299? I built some 1099 a few years ago, not so much wood work just gluing. I see you arranged the drivers differently though, maybe that's why you had to custom make the boxes. Lot of extra complexity. They are amazing speakers and still Wow me to this day, 4 years later. I smile everytime I listen to them. They are somewhat purpose built speakers though, more for home theatre then music. They sound good with music, but they are kind of like giant satellites, aka not full range. I keep mine crossed at 80 Hz to a 15" sub. Feel like I could use one more sub. People see huge woofers and assume these are full range. What they are is DYNAMIC, loud, and effortless... they play clean to super high SPL, and the directionality of the wave guide is spectacular, really helps with room acoustics. I also use the VOLT 10 LX, and was quite impressed with them as well.
I don't remember seeing flat packs for them... I've heard those 1099s, amazing speakers! And yea I've heard these are better with movies than music. Really excited to get them finished up!
Great job 👍 it's 18" or 22" thiknes?
hi, i love these videos!.... where do you get crossovers and figure out what crossovers to use?
These are kits, so all the crossovers are already tested and set up. You just have to assemble them
@@LifeofBliss opps never mind i see some kits available thanks
Do u have cut list/install of your router platform.i have been wanting to do that to my ridged table saw. Thanks
I just threw that together real quick for the dart board project I did. Used a really old hand me down router lol. I need to redo it with a base for my new router. I don't have a cut list but it was just some 1x4s and a 3/4 inch piece of melamine board. I'll make a video when I do the next one with my newer router.
great video and very good job.how do they 12" eminence work in this speakers?i have read that eminence are good for horn loated speakers.i am thinking to build 2 tour speakers with 2 eminence kappa pro 15.you think they gonna sound good?
Thanks. I actually haven't heard these particular speakers yet, but I have heard the 10 inch versions. They are very detailed and have a great neutral sound. I think eminence makes great speakers so I'm sure that will sound good
@@LifeofBliss i have heared the eminence 15 " in jbl 4530 horn boxes.they sound greatin this type horn cabinet.thank you man.i am waiting to hear your speakers in a new video
You may have said in the video but I admit I skipped through, how come you have used the same chamber for the mids and lows on the tower speakers? would they not need to be in their own tuned volume for the performance?
Yea sorry I didn't go over that. I will in the next video, but the mids are sealed, so they don't use any of the box airspace. Kind of a neat design. You can see the backs of the mids on the unboxing video
Question about the insulation; wouldn't that fiberglass become friable with all that air movement causing 2 things: fiberglass particulate to float throughout the room and possibly degrade the speakers by virtue of the dust constantly vibrating on the cones/spider (or getting up into the cooling pole on the magnet)?
Regular pink fiberglass and mineral wool are some of the best damping materials for speakers due to their density (much more thorough explanations out there, just Google speaker damping). There is no issues with the speakers getting damaged. Some worry about the fibers being thrown into the air, while others use it and say it's not an issue. In my case, I sprayed the entire inside if the box with the 3m adhesive after adding the wool. This should lock most fibers into place. If it ever became an issue, you could always add a very thin material to block off the port (pantyhose is often used lol). Hope that helps
Other than moving the woofer, what made you decide to port and tune the box to 35hz?
Better low end response. Not much under 70-75 Hz when sealed. Figured I was altering the boxes anyways, might as will make them a bit bigger and port them. It'll be better if I run them full range for music with no subs
Apik ya om...
Oh yeah, and where is the video where you added the router table to your table saw. That’s genius! I wish I would have seen that about 2 years ago before buying a router table.
Ha I was waiting for someone to say something about that! I put that together as a quick-n-dirty to finish up some things on the dart board. I'm using a really old router that is permanently there now. I'd like to make some changes to it and have a nicer router plate on top eventually, so figured I'd save that for a video. I just got a really nice router I used here in this video that I need to buy another base for that I can leave on the router table to quickly switch back and forth.
Great build and video. Getting ready to start my 1299s and am leaning toward this design. Super exited! Pretty stable on carpet in this configuration? I have small children running around, which is part of the reason I like this...shorter with the weight lower.
BTW, I think you have a typo in your cut list, both here and on AVS. I think the top of the center should be 16.25 deep, not 16.5.
Thanks man. And I may have a typo in there... Sorry! I'd have to go back and measure the box to be sure.
Oh and they are pretty stable on carpet. I didn't worry too much about my kids knocking them over, but it's still possible...
why dont you datto some of the box cuts to add strength?
w8ing for subwoofers
I know, it took about 3 months to arrive after ordering... Video coming this week!
the two boxes that are have a different angle. are they the same cuft? Why did you have the black paint between the wood and glue ? I guess you didn't have any problems because of that? it looks really nice! I want to build some boxes again!
I tried to make them as close as possible, but my measurements were a bit off when it came time to building. That are within 10-15%, but they are sealed and will be able to take care of any differences once I EQ everything. If you look at the painting part again, I only painted the exposed side of the port and taped off the supports when painting in the box. No paint where the glue was applied. Thanks man, really hoping it warms up soon so I can finish them!
@@LifeofBliss looking forward to seeing it!
Did you account for the insulation taking up space for tuning the port size?
Insulation does not take up air space in the box. Inner dimensions will still be the same.
Really nice job on the design and setup. But myself, I wouldn't have used fiberglass base insulation. Extremely hazardous to your lungs. When your setup is playing, it's going to blast fibers everywhere. But other then that, I really like your design.
Thanks man! The insulation is actually mineral wool, so not fiberglass based (not as hazardous) and I also sprayed the entire inside if the enclosure and insulation with spray adhesive the "bed" the fibers. Never seen any resting in the ports over the years, fairly confident I'm not swimming in a cloud of insulation every time I play them 😉
Ahhh my finger!!!!!!!
Anywhere i can get crossovers built already? DYIsound group is out of stock on everything
can you give m a model number and brand of drivers used..?..i want to see if i can get them from q components in canada where live thanks
Is there a way to get these 1299 baffles?
I believe I have settled on the 1299 or the Titans... Do you have an opinion of which is better?
I have not heard the Titans myself... I know there are a few guys on AVS Forum that have owned or heard both. I'd do a search there or start a thread in the DIY Speaker subforum. I can say that I have been extremely happy with the 1299s. I haven't seen anything bad about the Titans. You'll be set with either!
Does moving the original driver layout of the left and right channels change the sound of the speaker?
It will have some effects on it. The original designer said there would be some more bass reflections off the floor with both woofers down low, but he said it still sound great. Most things can be tweaked and corrected with EQ now days so should be ok
@@LifeofBliss OK. Keep up the good work these videos are really informative.
Can you please till me how do I get a kit for 2x18" subs I would like to to build one cabinet for dual subs.
Look into flat packs for the UM18 sub. Parts Express or DIY Sound Group are good places to look
Wish the 10'' had this arrangement, T-MM-WW
You can probably make it that way. These didn't start out that way either, had to get creative
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If you make boxes you should know that 15 inch speakers need separate enclosures or they fight each other for air and don't sound right and can develop other problems ps I made towers when I was 16 years old had two concert speakers and put them in my parents back yard and rocked the neighbor Hood
Good thing these are 12 inch woofers...
@@LifeofBliss your do a good job look nice keep up the good work 👌
😉 thanks man. I hadn't heard that before about the 15 inch speakers, I'll have to look into that.
@@LifeofBliss a tech at car toys told me and my cousin he did bump off for them in the 90ds. Have 15 inch cerwin Vegas from the 80 D's they are in separate enclosures with air ports no planes though lol
Great video 😊
I have a speakerseries which I really like, except the fact that the center is a little small (2×6.5") bass. Fronts have dual 12", rear have dual 10".
Fronts go down to 22hz, rears 25hz.
Center is rated at 50hz, but one of my recievers put it as large, the other one at 40 hz 🤷♂️
Thing is, I have 2 Def Tech Supercube Reference subs, and find the transition from center to subs to be missing some slam. I am therefore thinking of taking 2 10" as in the rear, and building a box with thouse around the center. So that the center sort of will be inside the basspart of the speaker. Would you say this is possible, and how would you do it? I don't have much woodworking tools, and have never buildt any speaker, but hey, everone starts somwhere 🤪
What so I need to pay atention to in order to keep the same sensitivity and ohm as it is now? I suppose it is important to use the same woofers as the rears (rears are actually babybrother fronts, and everything except the woofers are the same as the fronts I use).
And finally, would it be a better idea to route the center to a small sub, with highpass, and not fuck anything up? 🤪
You feel you're missing something from the center? If you have it crossed at 80 or 100 hz, your subs should be doing all of that. Are you running it as large? That may be the problem. Your subs will do everything under 100 hz better than your mains will. I would look at how you have things crossed over before building anything. Your towers sounds like they would be great for full range 2 channel music, but for movies I'd look at crossing your subs at 80-100 hz 👍
@@LifeofBliss
Hi 😊
Thanks for replying 😊
As of now, I have center and heights crossed over at 80hz. Maybe I'll try to raise it to 100hz. (Always thoght that the subs did a better job if they have less to do. But they are not even on 1/4 of gain, so I suppose I can try 100 hz.) Probably should cut rhe rears higher too? Now I have them at 40hz, they are dual 10". I have tried to put fronts in small, but the sound is way punchier with them in large (I have sub in pluss, so 120hz and down goes to the subs as well as the fronts). I am avare that fronts in large is "wrong" and have tried to make small sound great, but no matter what I do, it sounds punchier and actually cleaner, with them in large. (I do have 600 watts and 1500 dampingfactor on each front, so controll of them is great).
I will try to raise frequency in the subs. Thanks for the reply mate 😊
Were those 6.5's closed back? If not, they're supposed to be in separate air spaces than the 12's.
They are closed back 😉
Does your little drill press not have a depth stop?
Probably does, this was just quick and easy to do that way
Just a question, why didn' t you port the center channel box?
Size constraints. For movies these will still be crossed over with the subs. I would still have the subs on if listening to all channels for music as well. 2 channel listening would be really the only time without subs so that's went I only did the towers. No reason you couldn't port all three though
@@LifeofBliss Really like your reconfiguration of the woofers and adding a port. Any chance DIYsoundgroup may adopt your design for the future front r/l speaker baffle? They look great, have you powered them up to hear what they sound like? I've always loved the sound from horns.
@@gaj9080 Honestly I don't think they will change what they are doing. The designer said I would probably get more bass reflections off of the floor with the setup, but said it should still sound just fine. They have the 1099 and 1899 (now discontinued) in the same configuration, so probably won't change the 1299 just to keep in consistent. I have not powered them up yet because I don't want to lose the motivation to finish them when I get a few warm days! I'd be too tempted to watch a few movies instead! lol
@@LifeofBliss Understand the warm days concept and motivation living here in Mich. Come on spring
Hi I would like the details Speaker box or not
Nice speakers but I have some questions.
Why didn't you just make new baffles? That looked like a weak baffle without the two cuts, and it sure didn't make them stronger with the cuts. The rockwool is very dens and will take up volume in the box. In a ported box, what do you think happens with the itchy fiber from the rockwool?
Your 6,5", do they have sealed baskets?
These were cnc cut to fit the speakers perfectly and center them. That opening for the waveguide would not have been an easy cut to perfectly match. This was much easier And faster. And it is plenty strong once attached to the rest of the box. The lower brace and port are right by the joints adding strength across the front. The rockwool doesn't take up air volume in the box. A Google search will explain that more, but you want a dense breathable material for better damping to deaden the box. I left plenty of space around the port so the wool wasn't too close, but I also sprayed everything with a coat of the 3m adhesive before putting on the front baffle to lock in most fibers. Many have used this material with ported boxes and do not have that issue. A thin breathable liner such as spandex can be placed over the back side of the port area if one is worried (think pantyhose material lol). And the mids are a sealed back. The original design does not have anything in separate chambers either.
@@LifeofBliss If you had used the same router bit that you used to make it flush you would have been able to copy the baffle holes. If you had made two baffles the one you have could have been put on the outside, then you wouldn't need perfect cut outs on the inner baffle. But if you are happy, that's all that matters since it's your speakers.
I personaly would never use Rockwool.
@@extrakimF That's the great benefits of building your own speakers, personal preference. Not worrying about another audiophiles' concerns or questions about building techniques. We all design to our own likings. By the way, do you have any videos of anything you have designed or built on CZcams? I thought that since you have such knowledge and great suggestions, that you could elaborate and show us what you can do. Thank you.
@@vegaslimoguy2376 I don't have a lot on CZcams and nothing with a finished build, but here's one:
czcams.com/video/Q5EE1shNtPE/video.html
I do have some build pics of some of my boxes, but not on CZcams.
Want to make a sound sysyem my self... can i know the measurements of the boxes correctly 😊❤️
Dimensions are in the description 👍
dont you think when the bass hits the whole room will be filled with glassfiber from the rockwool insolation ??? Its smarter to use specific soundproof materials instead of rockwool ??? maybe for sealed enclosure but for open...
No, I sprayed all the insulation with the spray adhesive before placing the front baffle on. Plus there is not much air movement to be honest.
How lg is the theater room all of this is going in?
Open basment, roughly 700-800 sq ft is the open area.
Where can I find the same panels? I could not locate them on their website.
These are the regular 1299 kits on their site. I cut the front baffle and rearranged things to better suit my needs.
Hello I wanted to know... Do u build speaker cabinets for other people
Not currently. Don't have the proper setup or time
Ok thank you
So besides the 24" Subwoofers... YOU HAVE SOME DIY SOUNDGROUP SPEAKER PLANS?!
Can I come over and play?
I feel like a kid in a candy store waiting on new videos for these things.
Yea doing a complete new setup for the area. Been finishing the basement over the past year and the theater area was a huge part of it. Really hoping it warms up soon so I can get everything painted and installed!
Is that rock wool? That makes you itch? It shouldn’t 🤔 it’s not like fiber glass insulation. I use that same stuff for my acoustic panels and have never had a problem. Guess you can never be too cautious tho 🤷🏻♂️
Yea it really wasn't too bad, but I absolutely hate working with that sort of stuff (fiberglass, insulation). Just looking at it makes me it lol. I was just being cautios
Ok yeah I was like “this is misinformation” lol cause I know for a fact that you can handle that stuff with no problem. It’s literally rock/stone. If you wanna see how it’s made check this out it’s pretty cool. The very first scene in this video is a guy with no gloves on pushing some Rockwall into a cavity. At first I thought you were making a joke like some of your other videos cause you had all this stuff on and making a big deal about it you had me rolling 😂🤣 anyway here’s the vid if you wanna take a look
czcams.com/video/KrfWe1mLGzc/video.html
@@skizzlemane1 lol yea that part wasn't a joke unfortunately! It was actually the first time using the stuff. I'm not too worried about any health effects, but man people have been blasting me on here for even using it. But like I said, I did my research, not worried at all.
Life of Bliss ...wow yeah I just a sec to look through the comments, and yeah people DID blast you for using that 😂 but as I suspected it was because they were ill-informed in the matter 🤦🏻 you definitely should not be concerned with any inhalation issues. Honestly what’s funny is that what people use most for baffling is more harmful like Cellulose and cotton, all of these materials, however don’t ever particulate enough or amount to a quantity that would be harmful. Anyway as I’ve said before nice job 👍🏼 I may use rock wool in my next project I never thought to use that in lieu of polyester pillow filling haha. I don’t know if you’ve heard of Sunfire signature subwoofers but I have an extra sub I need to build a box for and this filling seems like just the right stuff 👍🏼🔊
Why insulation in a ported box? I thought that was a no-no so that fiberglass didn’t blow out the port.
This mineral wool insulation is about the best stuff for damping a box (right there with fiberglass insulation). Works great for absorbing midrange frequencies that would otherwise cause distortion in a box that has no lining on the walls. I looked into the issue with fibers possibly blowing out of the port. Most didn't find it to be an issue, including some professionals in the speaker business. I could always come back and attach some breathable thin material in the box behind the port, such as panty hose, to prevent fibers coming out if it became an issue. Also, I didn't show it in the video because I don't thing most people even do this, but I did take that 3M adhesive spray and coat all of the insulation after it was installed to lock most of the fibers into place
Life of Bliss ah, so it’s wool and not fiberglass. No fibers blowing around when the base hits hard!
Is there a follow up video to this? Crossover and driver installation?
Yea man it's coming this week. The hobbies come after work and raising a 1 year old lol. This was a pretty big project to try and do during his nap times!
Life of Bliss 😂😂😂 no worries man. I respect that. Can’t wait to see the completed speaker. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks man, the kiddo is a full time job in itself! 😅 he's a blast though, we are super lucky parents. They really turned out awesome, I'll get the edit out soon bud
Life of Bliss I have 5 kids total beauties they are. Utter joy. But they are hard work😂😂. I’m going to be building dual ultimax 18’s soon, hopefully with their 2400spa dsp amp. They’ll be an easy build. But on top of that, I’m going to build 3 mains and 4 surrounds with Dayton products too. But they won’t be kit. They’ll be custom design by me, so watching a few vids, and yours stood out being abit more interesting😂😂. Made me wanna see end product.
Dang I thought 1 was tough! You are a busy man haha! That's awesome man. Actual designing is time consuming and above my pay grade currently. Been sticking to kits (outside of subs) buy would like to get into that at a later point. Good luck!
Are those speaker kits still available? Do you have a link?
The 1299s are not available anymore. The 1099s are periodically. Links in description 👍🏼
Hey man. How do the 1299’s compare to the Swope’s?
The 1299s are more detailed. Dynamics are crazy for movies and they'll get much louder without distorting. Swipes are a little more laid back. They are awesome for some 2 channel or lower to mid level music listening. They have a good image for home theater, but the 1299s are just better in almost every way for that environment
Thanks. I appreciate it. Awesome build!
What kind of x-over you used?
Here's the video I made on the crossover
czcams.com/video/0SjkqJXBevg/video.html