Did The Mahabharata Really Happen - Historian Vikram Sampath Reveals
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In this stellar episode of AJIO Presents The Ranveer Show, we host Dr. Vikram Sampath. He is a popular Indian historian, noted for authoring biographies of Gauhar Jaan and V. D. Savarkar.
Bangalore-based historian Dr. Vikram Sampath is the author of 8 acclaimed books of history including biographies of Gauhar Jaan & Veer Savarkar & Bravehearts of Bharat on unsung heroes of India. He was elected as a Fellow of the prestigious Royal Historical Society of the UK, a winner of the Sahitya Akademi's first Yuva Puraskar in English literature & the ARSC Award for Excellence in Historical Research in New York. He has a Ph.D. in history & music from the University of Queensland, is a trained Carnatic vocalist & has established India's 1st digital sound archive for vintage gramophone recordings called the Archive of Indian Music.
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From USA. I have recently come across this epic and I am almost finished. This is the best story to ever be told! I can not express the many feelings and thoughts from my experience so far. I am so glad this has come to me. Thank you.
Edit : I mean story as a tale of history. Not myth!
Try ramayan also
Sorry but it's not a story, it's history.
Not a story. Historical fact.
Do people in the US really call it USA these days?
In Karnataka we have a saying, all the secrets of life are buried deep within Vana Parva and Virata Parva.
Bharat is very lucky to have historians like Vikram Sampath..Kudos!!
I’ve been studying Ramayan for years and I don’t understand why ppl keep saying that Ramayan has very linear characters. Each character have so much subtlety. Bharat wasn’t perfect, Sugreev wasn’t perfect, same with Dasarath. Even look at Raam, he was so full of emotions. The fact that each character is so human is why I love this book.
yea,but rama was a good guy,lakshman was a good guy,bharat was a good guy,hanuman too and the other side was all evil...but in mahabharat,pandavas who were supposed to be the good guys stayed quiet during draupadi's helpless moment,bhishma,a person who stood for dharma and the teachers who taught dharma fought for adharma
@@dvine3488yeaaaa they weren’t as good as you think lol. The demons weren’t all as bad either. There was evil and purity on both sides. That’s what I mean, this whole idea that ramayan ks black and white, good vs evil, raam goes by the book…all lies. It’s very clear raam broke protocol and went against scripture to uphold a greater dharma. Unless I’m reading a very different ramayan from the rest of the world 😂
People only focus on the main part of the story. If we combine all the surrounding stories of ramayana, it is more complicated and diverse than mahabharat
@@dvine3488 Its not about Good or Bad. Thee are just qualitie of every Human Being. What was important was who sided with Dharma. Dharma is defined by Yudhistira as follow - One needs to protect Dharma (Righteous order of Justice) based on these things in the Descending order - "What is Good for you, What is Good for your Family, What is Good for your Kingdom, What is Good for your Civilization, What is Godo for the World".
So one should prioritize what is Good for them last, Over other things like Family, Country, World. Mahabharat War was not fought to defend Pandava's Honor, It was fought to save the world fom Wicked Kauravas who had broguht Corruption and Evil in the Society.
@@JamesBond-zr1qf Ram doesn't broke the protocol, he went through all rule and regulation. It was the DWAPAR YUGA (Mahabharat)where all the rule and regulations were broken by Kaurvas . Both are different time periods . So things are different.
RAM( belongs to ) - Treta yuga (time)
KRISHNA (belongs to ) - Dwaper yuga
Currently time period is KALI YUGA (all the evil things will happen this period)
Mahabharata and Ramayana both are the Pride of our motherland ❤❤❤
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@Cherios Numbers eat some pork pie
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Itihasa meaning "It thus happened"..
Stories are true, but they are presented in a grand, symbolic, metaphor manner and adding legends to make it more beautiful..
In addition to being the grandest epic of India, the Mahabharata also pioneered the idea of non-linear story telling which is followed by many movies and novel plots today. The story of Mahabharata actually starts many generations AFTER the war with a descendent of Pandavas doing yagna blissfully unaware of his own identity and history. The story unfolds as a flashback retold by a serpent that appears in the yagna!! Even within this retelling there are multiple backstories of varying depths to give sufficient depth to even minor characters of the story. This innovative structure is also a reason why the epic has outlasted all other tales.
Well said. No other book like Mahabharat in the whole world.
@@statickk14 there is only asmani kitab 🤣😂🤣😂
Always found it weird how Parikshit was unaware of his ancestors
It was just three generations wasn't it
I'm reading lots of Indian history these days and the difference between what India was and what she has become today is absolutely flabbergasting and astounding.
wow the indic perspective of history given by Vikram is awesome.
Vikram Sampath is a brilliant historian amazing narration he sounds fact oriented n aware of the limitations.. Good job of bringing him to the show
Ramayan and Mahabharat are not only epic but the history. Best discussion.... 😊🎉
No they aren't . They are history + science fiction, mythology etc .
@@Kritika775 yeah but your pedo mohammad isn't
@Kritika775 like how Jesus drank your blood lol😂
No prophet momo seeing an Angel float on flying chair, and wallah talking to him, taking a donkey and flying to heaven for a trip and breaking the moon into 2 just 1400 years ago which still no one in other parts of the world documented is TRUE, and if you don’t believe my TRUTH you deserve to die.
@@Monk_Dobermanflying on donkey is real then and splitting ocean into two parts with stick is real then and bringing dead to life is also real then
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Intelligence and love of knowledge, expressed with accessibility! I must have already memorized this TRS Clip.
Ramayan & Mahabharat are our history
No they aren't . They are history + science fiction, mythology etc .
it's legend. it's not history.
@Monk Dobermanonly camel p drunker can denying it😂
@@areascoda2912 like the bible where adam and Eve are first people in tye world like you fucking denied evolution man.
It is also a great mythology Jesus is a good man.
@@areascoda2912 Unless you can disprove its existence beyond every reasonable doubt, it remains a possibility.
Mahabharata is also a spiritual treatise, the deeper meaning of Mahabharata is timeless wisdom
From 4:30 mins in the video, such a profound answer given by Vikram sir, amazing ❤
Mahabharata is 'Itihas'.
In our tradition, Itihas is defined as,
धर्माथकाममोक्षाणां उपदेशसमन्वितम् |
पूर्ववृत्तं कथायुक्तं इतिहासं प्रचक्षते ||
Mahabharata is greatest literature that a human has come across
Yes greatest literature. And it should be seen as that.
@@Nep.Victor wat do u mean it should be seen as that??
@@sk21719 yah yah... Cause if he is Christian then Jesus walked on water ain't he 😂😂
@Null Matrix Bible and Qur'an are dictatorial in nature they permit n forbids alot of aspects of life, morals and Mahabharata on other hand guides u to do this n that when in diabolical situation certainly doesn't permit and forbids in its teaching that's i say its best literature in history of mankind
@@chinmayneelkod931 No they aren't . They are history + science fiction, mythology etc .
I am learning a lot through your podcasts 😊
A work done by author Nilesh Oak has lot of info on dating Mahabharata, which is a worth read.
I don't exactly agree with Nilesh Oak but yes it's a worth read .
There is nothing to agree or disagree as if its someones opinion. when the sources are references of textual evidences. there are astronomical events in those verses which can only happen at specific times according to modern astronomical sciences and other verses which also corroborates to the same timelines with other their own archeological, climatological, oceanographical, siesmological, geological, geographical, genetics, linguistics, etc evidences.
JAI SHREE RADHE KRISHNA ❤️
Great conversation, the nuances of Mahabharata are elegantly illustrated here, true indeed aspects of the epic deals with raw emotions, it's sublime too, enacts fall from grace, then entertains divine intervention etc. Thank you Ranveer, loving this.
Excellent sir.....your words are meant really for sake of 👍
It didn't happen earlier but happen everyday in people's mind.
It appears Dr. Sampath has not read the Mahabharata. He mentioned that Pandava departed from their Kingdom and proceeded to the Himalayas after killing everyone else in the war.
Yudhishthira ruled for almost 36 years after he won the war. It was time for them to retire due to old age. He would be in his late nineties at that time. Therefore, they crowned Parikshit, son of Abhimanyu, and then proceeded towards the Himalayas.
O1:40 dating of Mahabharata war - Nilesh Nilkanth Oak in his book "When Did The Mahabharata War Happen?" mentioned the war happened on 16th Oct 5561 BCE
That guy says Lanka as attributed in the scriptures was near Maldives
Fascinating discussion.
The comment on Ramayana that Every Character is 'Goody' indicates that the speaker's source is TV Serial Ramayana and not Valmiki Ramayana .... Every Character comes alive and is believable in Ramayana
This is the first time i connected with someone's thought process on this show.
How beautiful are the concepts of our epics...
Please interview Nilesh Neeltant Oak, if not done earlier. He has done computerized simulations based on constellations mentioned in Ramayana and Mahabharatha.
The Ramayana and Mahabharata, two widely recognized Indian epics, have gained global familiarity. However, Indian literature offers much more, such as the Asta Dasa Puranams and the works of Adi Sankaracharya. It is crucial for us to explore and popularize these texts, ensuring their accessibility to the general public. These books and their teachings are invaluable sources of knowledge and wisdom, waiting to be shared with all.
All sanskrit scriptures are mere lies told to mask the real tamil history of india !
Simply superb
Normally dushyanth sridhar, velkudi krishnan such scalers were giving true lecture from samiskiratham to various launguage like english tamil etc.but now i see the fluency of samiskiratham with dr. Sampath ya i use to watch his interactions with many leaders in english but now he is also fluent in samiskiratham. Hope the same talents both dr. Anand ranganatan and sai deepak will have. Excellent quality
When you approach the Mahabharata in the light of Kriya Yoga, you realise that the Kurukshetra War is but a metaphor for the battle between good and bad action within each individual. Shri Lahiri Mahasaya sets it out in the finest of details in his commentary of the Bhagavad Gita, which can be found at the Yoga Niketan online library. Ipso facto the question about the reality of the Mahabharata becomes redundant.
Mahabharat is multilayered legend. it's history, it's metaphor for swadharma (psychology), and so on.
Even the great sage Sri Ramana Maharshi explained the Mahabharata as an internal battle between good and bad forces within each of us. But I also think one can interpret Mahabharata through the lens of actual historic events (although some of the story-telling may have elements of embellishment). I think as 'itihasa' it implies the telling of events that actually happened but the way it is told may also reveal many symbolic or metaphoric meanings which are left for the reader to explore on their own. I think Vikram in the clip gives a good account of what itihasa really means through the use of that sloka. Spirituality allows for nuances and subjective interpretations of ancient texts in so far as it helps the seeker advance in the right direction. Even the Ramayana is symbolically interpreted through the lens of Vedanta in the scripture 'Adhyatma Ramayana' so both the 'actual' and the 'metaphoric' versions of the story find relevance.
Wdym by its metaphor for swadharma. Can you elaborate on this please @@yogi5878
Mahabharat and Ramayan is the history not only of india but entire world
Whole world? Yet no one knows about it..
@@user-yh4uj2sx9x world forgot it...
@@nitinkumar1310 what do you mean?
@@user-yh4uj2sx9x u don’t believe that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen , grow up kid
@@Spiritual07 lol that applies to you too.Religion is a social imaginative construct created by men, which may have served its purpose in the past but I feel is redundant now. Also if you seriously believe that Hanuman could fly in the air carrying a huge mountain in his pinky finger, or Jesus could magically walk on water or mohammad could split the moon in half...well you are the one that needs to grow up not me...
After watching the proof of Ram setu,Dwarka Nagari under sea,Brundaban etc you still think that these are only myths.I don't think so.Jai shree krishna🙏
No they aren't . They are history + science fiction, mythology etc .
Ranveer please get Prof Nilesh Oak. He has accurately dated several events in historical past using 3 branches of science
Ramayana n Mahabharat is d way of life 🕉️🙏🙏🙏🙏
Proud of our Ramayan and Mahabharat. Proud of my Sanatan Dharm.
Jai Shri Ram
Jai Shri Krishna
Jai Kuntiputra Yudhistir
Jai Kuntiputra "Bheem"
Jai Kuntiputra Arjun
Jai Nakul
Jai Sehdev
😁😁😁😁
There is no such book ever written like the MahABHAratha, the most complex/comprehensive/fascinating/jaw-dropping/mind-blowing/philosophical book ever written, even if we exclude the impossible magic, miracles, and superstitious things.
Off. Wonderful episode. The mahabharata part
Scholars who differ in their thoughts or views, why don't they come forward and have an open discussion to find out the truth?
For example: If X has some evidence which proves Mr. A was great man, whereas Y has evidence too which proves Mr. A was a bad man and both X and Y publishes books stating their views and citing their evidences for the general readers. But then why Mr. X and Mr. Y do not confront each other and delve into a discussion to find out the truth, instead it is left for the general readers to find out the truth among the two views, where the general readers does not even have the primary sources or the intellect to assess.
Isn't this a good way to earn money through book selling? Maybe the scholars have an unwritten understanding that no one shall come across their way, so that both can sell their books.
Nobody seems to have critical thinking about the stories of Ramayana and Maha bharatha .If they were histories, there should have been continuity for all these years. No incidents took place further.
Ramayana had a lot of ideals from one family since it's a part of treta yuga, in dwapara yuga evil becomes more common in people and as we know in kali yuga it's way worse than any other yuga. Nevertheless both of them teach us valuable life lessons to protect the dharma and fight against adharma. Jai Shri Ram
Its really so sad we have still not make a grand web series or movie on Mahabharata so that it will be on international level like mcu
@Null Matrix but i want a level like Hollywood which means like 800 cr budget mega movie and Bollywood is not going make it because they are always too busy with secularism
Tbh ... The complexity of each and every character is way beyond anything like mcu or Hollywood
@@Moon-kg4qk that's why i am saying this why Bollywood has not make a mega movie on Mahabharata because each character can have a spinoff movie and great way to pass today's so called genz some religious knowledge
@Moon-kg4qk there's over 32 films in the mcu with over 700 characters. Many of which have decades of history in comic book series and many writers to pull from. While im not a big fan of the mcu, You're are completely wrong
It is not mythology it is our history ..
It is a fictional and mythical literature like marvel and dc comics , harry potter and LOTR
It is not history , it's just some historical imaginary literature or books written by people who had nothing else to do
love this
Anand ranganathan ko invite karo
It's fascinating to imagine the pyramids being built during that era. I think the ASI should excavate and explore more Mahabharata era sites and not be timid and corrupt in its approach. There are lots of ancient places that are overlooked or ignored.
Pyramids were built before. Mahabharata and ramayana. These people were remnants of the atlantean civilization set up by thoth
@@prabshiro The statue of kalpa vigraha is 26500 years old. What gibberish you talking about?.
@@devashisnanda3477 it's beleived to be a hoax. While emerald tablets state that thoth wrote them 36000 years ago after pyramids were built. He then states his people were sent across the globe to teach and civilize others. The hindh gods and the annunaki gods are the one and same
How does it matter whether the exact event happened or not..its jus a beautiful text to learn from
That’s a perfectly good take on the text - a source of philosophy. But, if that’s your take, be unbiased enough to evaluate other philosophies and see a utilitarian value in each to distill one that’s true and effective.
Wonderful
Mahabharata is a story that could have happened many times over
Vikram ❤
He is awsome ❤
Core story may had happened in real but over period of time beautiful legends, other fictional stories added to it to make more beautiful and readable.
Though I've always found the Mahabharata very engaging, some say that Ramayana is the greatest tale ever told and a wonderful Sikh Guru on his channel Nanak Naam explains "What is Diwali and Why is it Celebrated." He lays out the several layers of meaning in the great epic in 4 and a half minutes.
For sure Mahabharata is greatest and biggest tale ever told , deepawali is celebrated for death of narakasura entire south india and south east asia goes by that story
Link?
@@Deveshi.A. True that - Mahabharata has got something for everyone. Luckily for us the B. R. Chopra dramatization was very engaging. Loved it.
There is a text called Adhyatma Ramayana which explains the spiritual (symbolic) significance behind the story and characters of Ramayana. The guru of Nisargadatta gave a beautiful explanation of what the Ramayana signifies in the context of Vedanta philosophy. But the quote is a bit long for a YT comment. If you are still interested in reading it let me know I will search for that chapter.
Yes we r coming to our roots
My Favorite in Mahabharata is Yudhishthira, Son of Dharma (God of Justice). He was never Biased towards anybody but saw himself as Protector of the whole Society. Many don't know some facts about him like - He was the Greatest Spear Warrior of his Era and he ate only once a day, Lived a simple life of Honor and Dignity. He prioritzed Dharma over everything else. He can be considered a Great Role-model for Judges today in the Court of Law.
Agreed except for that one small weakness where he gambled and lost his wife and brothers.
Nilesh Oak has predicted and proved profitable time period of Ramayan and Mahabharat from Nakshta , astronomical calculation s. One should listen to him
Ramayana is only after panini !
Did Mahabharata really happened?? Ye koi prashn puchni ki baat hai apne aap se ye sawal pucho khud hi jawab mil jayega. Ander se awaaz aayegi agar granth aur geeta padhi hai to aapko ye sab ghathit ho chuka esa pata chal hi jayega. Stop calling it a myth its out history bhai. U should be proud of it.
Why was this removed from the full interview?
Im nt very good with English bt after listening all i think you mean that all the mythical, supernatural, divine things that happened are actually exaggeration of some simple even to make it interesting to read.
Dr Nilesh Oak has given the perfect date of Mahabharata nd Ramayana.
@Akshay Thantry, How have you verified the dates? Dates are irrelevent for mythological tales narrating an arsonist, flying monkey with a flaming tail, and 100 Kaouravas being the sons of Dritarashtra and Gandhari, biologically and statistically false and absurd. Satyemeva Jayete.
@@prosantomukerji3931 why is it always a bengali 😭😭😭
No point in arguing with a Doberman and a Mukerji coz ,ek har baat par bhokega aur dusra har baat par Mukhar jaayega.🤣
True, one must have in dept knowledge of his works to conclude that.
There is nothing to agree or disagree as if its someones opinion. when the sources are references of textual evidences. there are astronomical events in those verses which can only happen at specific times according to modern astronomical sciences and other verses which also corroborates to the same timelines with their own archeological, climatological, oceanographical, siesmological, geological, geographical, genetics, linguistics, etc evidences.
I used to believe in Nilesh's research too but he just Cherry picked the references he can use and he left thousands references unused because they were contradictory. As a religious belief you can believe whatever you want but when you try to prove it using scientific tools it has to be scientific method. I trust shrikant talegiri more on his methodology dating rig veda it's completely scientific
Invite Nilesh Nilkanth Oak who can talk a lot on this with astronomical, geological, oceanographical proofs
But no proof under ground in Ayodhya or Mathura !
Request you to bring in Mr. Nilkant Oak an authority on above topic
This guys can be a very good diplomat, never gives straight answer, but somehow manages to speak for minutes on the topic.
What "straight" answer do you exactly want ? Are you a 5th grader who needs to be spoon fed answers ??
Ramayanam and Mahabharat are present, past, and feature of mankind
Every person on the face of earth definitely suit in one or other characters of the epics
Excellent logical epic
धर्मार्थ-काम-मोक्षाणाम्, उपदेश-समन्वितम्
पूर्व-वृत्त-कथा-युक्तम् इतिहासं प्रचक्षते
very nice
Proud to be a Hindu
When will you bring Nilesh Oak ji.... please
Tbh i don't think it matters if it ever happened or not. We get too invested in trying to prove that it happened that we forget to get the point behind why it was written in the first place. I don't think the sages who wrote those texts ever meant for it to be treated as a historical dissertation. They're meant to teach morals and ethics through the characters and their surroundings.
Whatever it's history or mytholgy but Lord Rama & krishna were, are & will be our first & last love❤
जय श्री राम🚩
Mahabharata even anticipates the theory of nuclear deterrence. When at the end of the war, both Ashwathama and Arjuna release Brahmastra at each other, the sage Vaasa intervenes saying that when two Brahmastras clash with each other it is the end of the world!
Mahabharat and Ramayana are itihasa not mythology
Great perspective. VS is a brilliant guy!! Please have more of his type rather than the conspiracy theorists whom you fancy a lot and often quote.
When an enlightened souls write anything and teach anything to their disciples then it is Truth. People of todays age have lost the grasp of Dharma, they don't know what their past was. So to negate anything as glamorized story is just an illusion because people stopped searching or even thinking about truth in this age. Atleast have guts to explore about Bramhastra on how to get it what tapasya's were done how long it has taken, how to reach a level of body for long lifetime tapah.
Because i have seen people like Tailung swami, Devaraha Baba had 250+ years life.
I am here to see ranvir's expression only
Mahabharata and Ramayana talks about all the different races of people from Asia to Americas
Nilesh Oak : Mahabharat 16th Oct. 5561 BCE
The greatest epic ever happened and told and it gives us guidance how to live life with our mind always focused on god and stand for dharma❤
धर्मार्थ काममोक्षाणां उपदेशं अन्वितम् । पूर्ववृत्तं कथायुक्तम् इतिहासं प्रचक्षते ।।
The Brihad-bhagavatamrita Verse 2.1.110
6:18
The ancient scriptures, known as Itihāsas, present many historical accounts in regard to determining the essential truth of the highest goal of life and the means to achieve it (sādhya-sādhana). This includes advice for obtaining dharma (religiosity), artha (economic development), kāma (sense gratification), and mokṣa (liberation).
6:07 Philosophy of history in Bharat
Every person should these 4 books in their life under the guidence of authentic guru.
1.srimad bhagwad Gita
2.Mahabharat
3.Ramayan
Ramcharitmanas
Valmiki ramayan
Anand ramayan
Adbhut ramayan
4.Srimad bhagwat mahapuran(at last)
Epitome of all knowledge .
Bring anica mann, rajarshri nandi, sri m again man
There is archeological evidence in the form of Dwaraka.
According to mahabharatha , dwaraka came up after mathura .
But according to archeology , dwaraka is far far older than mathura .
Therefore , the so called dwaraka does not prove the M B .
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg A blind man can be cured, not the one who is pretending to be blind. For some no matter what evidence and logic is given, they will always deny.
@@vighneshganti I showed the correct logic and reason to refute the incidence of MB, but you are passing dry remarks !
Who is blind here. ?
@@vighneshgantidude I'm pretty sure you're the one who's blinded by the faith. He didn't outright deny your argument but gave proper counter arguments and facts, now you should address those points instead of giving shameful personal attacks
Jay shree krishna 🙏
सत्य सनातन वैदिक धर्म की जय।
Even Nilesh Oak has dated it, but to 5561 BCE
I'm currently reading Shreemad Bhagwat Geeta
Hello Ranveer
Please invite Dr Nilesh Oak, he has done extensive research on the dating of Mahabharat and Ramayan based on astronomical observation and has written couple of books on it as well.
🙏🏻
Dr manish pandit has done better work. Watch his debate with nikesh oak
@@adityajoshi6422 thank you for information , I will surely watch it.
The.Mahabharatha is complex.because Dharma is complex. Dharma is not a set of commandments.or rules saying what is right or wrong. It is understanding what is right in the right context.
Nilesh Oak also dates the Mahabharata using astronomical signs in the epic to around 5556BC. Why do the same astronomical signs give 2 sayings thousands years apart ?
Jai hind
Drop top in rain , this night feel insane
So the caption was addressed as "I think so..."
If someone still does not believe the intellectual brilliance of our society is really incorrigible
Jai mahabharata.