I pick Shure Sm58 with its cardioid polar patern because the mic avoids the feedback noise. Unlike the Shure Beta58a with its super cardioid polar patern when you get too close to the floor monitor or the floor monitor is too big, the sound consequences will generate feedback!
Wow great content Sweetwater 😍 well done; your channel is doing real improvement and addressing consumer needs. And as a suggestion for future videos: please keep comparing similar products, such as RODE NT1 vs NT1A, Focusrite Scarlett vs Clarett, etc. Thanks with love to Sweetwater!
The SM58 is better for less experienced singers who don't how to properly sing into a mic' or singers who are moving around a lot and waving the mic' around. The Beta's super cardiod pattern means the singer needs to keep in the right position for best sound.
The Beta 58A is more clear, perfect for lower and baritone voices which require to increase the levels a lot. Finally I can hear myself in my band's rehearsals, and also, much more clear voice now.
I have both of these microphones. I mostly use the Beta 58A. Oh, I must say: I use a pop filter for both of these; have to! I use a Shure PS-6 "Popper Stopper" device that I clamp on to my microphone stand's boom. And oh, I can't help but say: when I plug my SM58 or Beta 58A into my Bose S1 Pro speaker (which I bought from Sweetwater) the volume is pretty piss poor low. So today I got a Lo-Z to Hi-Z transformer, (I purchased the Shure A85F but not from Sweetwater; they only sell the Little IMP brand which I'm sure is just as good) which does not need phantom power. Wow, it gives such a nice boost to the volume! I've had to use a Mixer ever since I bought the S1 Pro which I no longer will need! Super! You plug your microphone cable's XLR into the transformer, which plugs directly into one of the XLR/Line inputs of a PA speaker. I do not plan to use it with a mixer; there is no need.
If its helps, i sang with a SM58 for years and decided to upgrade to the Beta58, and man what a difference, it takes far less effort to get this to sound good in terms of vocals, its easy to get the higher output and dynamics you need with less strain, im choosing the beta everytime, I went back to the SM58 a few times but i miss the sound of the beta now, so that's my choice going forward. After a good bit of trying both, i can tell which mic i used in certain recordings now just by listening, there's a fair bit of difference once you hear them side by side. On a boom arm the beta is also awesome just for streamers and so on, super crisp but keep in mind its pick up pattern is very narrow, good on stage but maybe not so good for other applications where you move around.
I’m interested in sm58&beta58a I come your channel to get information about comparing microphone in addition I’m studying English listening through your video Thank you :)
I prefer the SH 55, I know it’s the same as a 58 but it has more mojo for the singer. There is something about that style of that mic that makes you want to rip a song, almost like a cool looking guitar for a guitar player
The Beta 57a is the best for my voice. For some reason the 58 has a peak right at the exact frequency that need to be reduced for my voice to sound right.
Vocals sound better through the SM58 beta, BUT, on stage, if playing guitar and singing, it is easier to use the 58. For recording at home, I use a Zoom recorder, the sensitivity and range is incredible and it can also be used as an audio interface.
Can someone tell me::: I bought Shure SM 58 beta. Today I tested my Shure PGA58 with 58 Beta and i didn't find much difference of sound eventhough Beta58 price is nearly 3 times more than PGA58. Am I doing something wrong?
We have a medium sized rehearsal space. We have alot of issues with feedback. We are full band with 2 guitars and a drummer. Would you recommend the Beta or the SM ? And should we keep the SM for live shows or replace all the mics with Beta ? Thanks !
Hello, Alexandre! The Beta58a will give you more gain before feedback and a tighter pick up pattern. I also think it sounds better overall. Without knowing more about the practice space you have, or without seeing it, I cannot promise that any mic will solve feedback issues. Thanks for the interest! Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Sir, I want to do voice over. I want to buy Sure SM 58 mic. But a shopkeeper told me that you cannot do recording with dynamic mic. This is not for recording. Condenser mics are made for recording. Sir, what should i do ? Please tell me the Truth
Hello, Andres! The SM58 is a fine mic, but the Beta 58A will sound better, and is a little more expensive. While both are built well, the SM58 is nearly indestructible. So it depends on how much you want to spend on the mics and how good you want it to sound. Thanks for the interest! Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Is there a comparable mic to the 58 Beta that has an on/off switch? I want the audience to hear vocals, not the chatter that happens onstage. I have been embarrassed by this in the past. Why would they overlook this? Is there another model like with one like the 58s?
I ned a mic for flute , hamonica and singing. NOTHING fancy . I'm in between Shure beta a 58 and Sennheiser e945. Had a Shure sm 58 before ( got stolen) , it worked fine but would like to try something a little better .Thanks in advance for any answer.
@@Mr.Altavoz I Have the e945, but have used the beta58 many times, for recording at home I use a zoom recorder, the sensitivity is fantastic, much better for acoustic instruments, for live you might be better with a standard SM58 as it is more forgiving of positioning, and cheaper.
Dear Sir, I have a question for you. If I fix guitar to Multi effect processor to guitar amplifier then what is the position that DI box should come???? Between Guitar and Effect processor or Between Amplifier and Effect processor????
Depends on whether or not you want to amplify the effects. If you’re using it live or recording and want the effects in the signal, put the DI after the effects. If you want the dry signal recorded or amplified and then the effects only going to the amp, put the DI before the effects
Hey, Bau! Since both of those microphones are dynamic, they'll both work really well for scream/guttural vocals. Dynamic microphones will generally have a much higher max SPL, so they handle louder vocals well. The main differences between those 2 mic's is the polar pattern. The Beta58 is super-cardioid, while the SM58 is cardioid. Super-cardioid will have a much tighter pick-up angle, so it's better for rejecting any signal coming in from the sides or the back. For this reason, the Beta58 is generally a great choice for live vocals. Cardioid will reject from the back and most of the sides, just not as much as a super-cardioid. In my experience, either microphone will sound extremely similar, it just depends whether or not you're going to need some help combating feedback or any "bleed" from other instruments. Let me know if you want to chat through any of that a bit further! Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
I've used a sure SM58 for 35 years I still have the same one I do acoustic guitar and vocals solo I want to try the beta 58 but I'd hate to spend the money and think I don't need it or I don't like I have a pretty powerful voice and never had a problem sooooooo anyone out there with a suggestion? 🤪
o som do shure sm58 segue no mesmo tom. o shure beta 58 sobe no final de cada palavra. não entendo de som, mas se eu for gravar um vídeo sério usaria o sm58 e se for gravar um video pra ensinar crianças a contar ou a aprender cores usaria o beta 58.
You're not crazy. Audiophiles need a canvas to work with and the SM58 while not totally flat, it doesn't color the sound so much that you have to fight to eq via mixer.
Probably for consistency more than anything, this is an extremely common practice. That's why some guitarists use fender deville (consistency) and they just tune it and add there own preamps and pedals.
Freddie actually used a Shure 565SD it was the predecessor to the 58. You can still buy them, they have a more of a chrome grill and a switch. I only know because I owned one for years. I was watching some old Queen video, so I Iooked into it and he used that mic his whole life.
@@MikeJohnson-bb6ry I'm confused because I use now a Shure PE56D made in the US, so I think the 565SD made in China was not made until recently. I just want to use the same mic that Freddie Mercury and other great singers used.
NO NO NO! Not everything sounds great through a SM58 - that's a marketing lie and you know it. Anything on the dark side as a source will definitely come out sounding bad. Having said that the Beta series are much better mics eq wise and they retain most of the 'balanced' dynamic response the older SM mics do except with a far more superior top end clarity. It's a pity sure don't sound like Sennheiser or Audio-Technica for example. In my view the SM series do not deserve their reputation any longer because standards of sound quality have changed and they have been left behind. Many better sounding mics are just as rugged as the old shure gear. Shure have been lazy for over 20 years and now they are playing catch up using marketing.
If you have a clear crisply articulated singing voice, a muddier less clear sounding mic like the SM58 is a very good choice or if you don't have a very trained and beautiful sounding singing voice and advanced singing technique, and therefore would not want all the imperfect flaws of your singing to be clearly heard, then the SM58 is also a good choice.
Can tell You from experience the Beta 58 is the hands down winner. Many years ago,in the 90s I did not know there was a Beta 58. At a show there was one on My stand. I sang a few songs and commented, "Thats the best 58 Ive ever sang thru". They said ,"Its not a 58,its something else". I said,"Its a 58". (It was pretty dark). So anyway, talk about a blind test!
Second most overrated mic of all time behind the SM57 😜 lol Industry standards for good reasons, don’t get me wrong, but it would be inaccurate to say they are still unquestionably the best at what they do 🤷🏼♂️ Regardless, great idea for a video, and I’m glad I watched it!
🎤 No matter which one you pick, you're getting a terrific microphone! Which do you prefer?
Beta. Spend the extra money. Awesome mic.
Love my Beta 58A!
Beta sound better than 58 in your voice. Thanks
I pick Shure Sm58 with its cardioid polar patern because the mic avoids the feedback noise. Unlike the Shure Beta58a with its super cardioid polar patern when you get too close to the floor monitor or the floor monitor is too big, the sound consequences will generate feedback!
That lapel mic he's wearing sounds great! What's the model? Was there any post eq work done for sound on the lapel mic audio? I wanna know!!
Wow great content Sweetwater 😍 well done; your channel is doing real improvement and addressing consumer needs. And as a suggestion for future videos: please keep comparing similar products, such as RODE NT1 vs NT1A, Focusrite Scarlett vs Clarett, etc. Thanks with love to Sweetwater!
The SM58 is better for less experienced singers who don't how to properly sing into a mic' or singers who are moving around a lot and waving the mic' around. The Beta's super cardiod pattern means the singer needs to keep in the right position for best sound.
Thanks
Hoping to get the SM58 soon, that is my choice. Thank you for the good review.
Both are great! i own a beta 58 since the 90's, and it's still working great! Love it!
i have been using the sm58 for 12 years now :)
Great video. Would love a Beta58A vs SM7B comparison
My SM58 has been my Always mic for over 20years.
Sweetwater Rocks!!!
I’ve only used a shure sm58 microphone i now have 2 shure sm58 mics and im quite happy with both of them
Appreciate your technical delivery - cheers
The Beta 58A is more clear, perfect for lower and baritone voices which require to increase the levels a lot. Finally I can hear myself in my band's rehearsals, and also, much more clear voice now.
Yeah, I have a very baritone voice and I get lost and muddy in a mix with a regular 58, with a Beta 58, I cut through the mix and sound a lot crisper
Thanks for the info Sweetwater 👌
Thanks for watching! 👍
I have been using SM58 for the past 85 years and still going strong, probably i will still use it in the next 85 to 90 years to come
🤣🤣🤣
I prefer the SM58 for my voice--it's smoother and more "natural" sounding curve.
Short & sweet
You did a perfect job!!
I have both of these microphones. I mostly use the Beta 58A. Oh, I must say: I use a pop filter for both of these; have to! I use a Shure PS-6 "Popper Stopper" device that I clamp on to my microphone stand's boom. And oh, I can't help but say: when I plug my SM58 or Beta 58A into my Bose S1 Pro speaker (which I bought from Sweetwater) the volume is pretty piss poor low. So today I got a Lo-Z to Hi-Z transformer, (I purchased the Shure A85F but not from Sweetwater; they only sell the Little IMP brand which I'm sure is just as good) which does not need phantom power. Wow, it gives such a nice boost to the volume! I've had to use a Mixer ever since I bought the S1 Pro which I no longer will need! Super! You plug your microphone cable's XLR into the transformer, which plugs directly into one of the XLR/Line inputs of a PA speaker. I do not plan to use it with a mixer; there is no need.
Excellent Speaker . You are awesome.I have had two of them.Thanks.
Amazing review, super professional dude
If its helps, i sang with a SM58 for years and decided to upgrade to the Beta58, and man what a difference, it takes far less effort to get this to sound good in terms of vocals, its easy to get the higher output and dynamics you need with less strain, im choosing the beta everytime, I went back to the SM58 a few times but i miss the sound of the beta now, so that's my choice going forward. After a good bit of trying both, i can tell which mic i used in certain recordings now just by listening, there's a fair bit of difference once you hear them side by side. On a boom arm the beta is also awesome just for streamers and so on, super crisp but keep in mind its pick up pattern is very narrow, good on stage but maybe not so good for other applications where you move around.
Now it makes sense,thank you.
Now it makes sense,thanks.
I've loved my Beta 59 for over 20 years!!! It's a bit hotter IMO... ;^>
I’m interested in sm58&beta58a
I come your channel to get information about comparing microphone
in addition
I’m studying English listening
through your video
Thank you :)
Thank you. I definitely learned something here. Sounds like the Beta 58 would be best for me.
You should compare the Beta with other brands, you may actually find the Mic you like doing this.
@@soundknight of the two on my budget I meant. What brand and models are the best on any budget?
@@clintonblake1436 Sennheiser e935 and akg d7
Yes thank you for this helpful content. Hopefully this is the future of advertising :)
I noticed the capsule distortion on the Beta, as you held it closer to your mouth and likely didn't turn the gain down. It sounded bad.
I prefer the SH 55, I know it’s the same as a 58 but it has more mojo for the singer. There is something about that style of that mic that makes you want to rip a song, almost like a cool looking guitar for a guitar player
Which of the two work best from far away ? And who’d makes the voice sound more bass like?
The Beta 57a is the best for my voice. For some reason the 58 has a peak right at the exact frequency that need to be reduced for my voice to sound right.
Thanks man
What's better for 🎙️ recording vocals in ProTools on the travel? Hip hop R&B and urban Latin music beta 58 vs sm58
Vocals sound better through the SM58 beta, BUT, on stage, if playing guitar and singing, it is easier to use the 58. For recording at home, I use a Zoom recorder, the sensitivity and range is incredible and it can also be used as an audio interface.
"through the SM58 beta" ? Is that a convination of both microphones?
what zoom variant are you using? @LOFIGSD
What mic do you use for the head of the video?
Using a Shure (SM58 Beta - A) here
Great product!!!!
Can someone tell me:::
I bought Shure SM 58 beta. Today I tested my Shure PGA58 with 58 Beta and i didn't find much difference of sound eventhough Beta58 price is nearly 3 times more than PGA58. Am I doing something wrong?
There's a big difference trust me, beta 58 is my mic of choice for live vocals
They shoulda called it the super58
We have a medium sized rehearsal space. We have alot of issues with feedback. We are full band with 2 guitars and a drummer. Would you recommend the Beta or the SM ? And should we keep the SM for live shows or replace all the mics with Beta ? Thanks !
Hello, Alexandre! The Beta58a will give you more gain before feedback and a tighter pick up pattern. I also think it sounds better overall. Without knowing more about the practice space you have, or without seeing it, I cannot promise that any mic will solve feedback issues.
Thanks for the interest!
Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Sir, I want to do voice over. I want to buy Sure SM 58 mic. But a shopkeeper told me that you cannot do recording with dynamic mic. This is not for recording. Condenser mics are made for recording. Sir, what should i do ? Please tell me the Truth
Ask Bono he recorded all vocals in the studio with a 58
So for singing with karaoke in an outdoor show which it would be the best?
Please.
Thank you
Hello, Andres! The SM58 is a fine mic, but the Beta 58A will sound better, and is a little more expensive. While both are built well, the SM58 is nearly indestructible. So it depends on how much you want to spend on the mics and how good you want it to sound.
Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
What's the model of the lapel mic you're wearing in the first 2 minutes of this video? It sounds amazing (unless there was post eq editing👀🕵️)!!!
course there was
Is there a comparable mic to the 58 Beta that has an on/off switch? I want the audience to hear vocals, not the chatter that happens onstage. I have been embarrassed by this in the past. Why would they overlook this? Is there another model like with one like the 58s?
I ned a mic for flute , hamonica and singing. NOTHING fancy . I'm in between Shure beta a 58 and Sennheiser e945. Had a Shure sm 58 before ( got stolen) , it worked fine but would like to try something a little better .Thanks in advance for any answer.
Is that for stage or recording?
@@LOFIGSD both, thanks for your answer!
@@Mr.Altavoz I Have the e945, but have used the beta58 many times, for recording at home I use a zoom recorder, the sensitivity is fantastic, much better for acoustic instruments, for live you might be better with a standard SM58 as it is more forgiving of positioning, and cheaper.
@@LOFIGSD thanks for your helpe👍
is this the dude who keeps calling me at 3am to ask me if i need help with my plugin shopping?
Which one is the best?
They both are awesome, but i preffer the sound of the beta 58🤩
BETA 58A wins by far.
Uh.... No.
Beta 58 sounds fuller than SM58
yeah i agree, i gig with both, and i can hear my vocals just pop with the beta58, much more sensitive and warm than the standard 58..
Dear Sir, I have a question for you.
If I fix guitar to Multi effect processor to guitar amplifier then what is the position that DI box should come???? Between Guitar and Effect processor or Between Amplifier and Effect processor????
DI processor amp
Depends on whether or not you want to amplify the effects. If you’re using it live or recording and want the effects in the signal, put the DI after the effects. If you want the dry signal recorded or amplified and then the effects only going to the amp, put the DI before the effects
I've been wondering
I thought he said lets listen to a smokin voice
Which one is better to scream/gutural metal vocals?
Hey, Bau! Since both of those microphones are dynamic, they'll both work really well for scream/guttural vocals. Dynamic microphones will generally have a much higher max SPL, so they handle louder vocals well. The main differences between those 2 mic's is the polar pattern. The Beta58 is super-cardioid, while the SM58 is cardioid. Super-cardioid will have a much tighter pick-up angle, so it's better for rejecting any signal coming in from the sides or the back. For this reason, the Beta58 is generally a great choice for live vocals. Cardioid will reject from the back and most of the sides, just not as much as a super-cardioid. In my experience, either microphone will sound extremely similar, it just depends whether or not you're going to need some help combating feedback or any "bleed" from other instruments.
Let me know if you want to chat through any of that a bit further!
Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
Audix OM7 for your application sir
The beta 58 easily sound better and is built better. worth the extra 50 bucks.
I've used a sure SM58 for 35 years I still have the same one I do acoustic guitar and vocals solo I want to try the beta 58 but I'd hate to spend the money and think I don't need it or I don't like I have a pretty powerful voice and never had a problem sooooooo anyone out there with a suggestion? 🤪
Get it
Get it... Enjoy the beta... Is better than the sm58
Easy to spot the difference, the beta is constantly in development 😁
Just wait for the Alpha SM58.
or the Mega SM58
or the Omega 58
Why are they still beta testing their mics after all these years!?
o som do shure sm58 segue no mesmo tom. o shure beta 58 sobe no final de cada palavra. não entendo de som, mas se eu for gravar um vídeo sério usaria o sm58 e se for gravar um video pra ensinar crianças a contar ou a aprender cores usaria o beta 58.
eu amava o beta 58, agora entre eles to começando a achar o sm58 melhor.
Call me crazy but I much prefer the SM58. The Beta is harder to EQ and sounds muddier if the vocalist likes to get right up on it.
You're not crazy.
Audiophiles need a canvas to work with and the SM58 while not totally flat, it doesn't color the sound so much that you have to fight to eq via mixer.
SM58
Roger Daltrey uses the SM58. So there’s that.
Probably for consistency more than anything, this is an extremely common practice. That's why some guitarists use fender deville (consistency) and they just tune it and add there own preamps and pedals.
1:01 "just about anything you can think of will sound GREAT through an SM58!"
Hmmmmmmmm...
The difference is 70$?
Ok, so if you need more sensitivity and output, get the Beta58.
Shure beta concerteza
SM58 is Freddie Mercury favourite microphone
Freddie actually used a Shure 565SD it was the predecessor to the 58. You can still buy them, they have a more of a chrome grill and a switch. I only know because I owned one for years. I was watching some old Queen video, so I Iooked into it and he used that mic his whole life.
@@MikeJohnson-bb6ry I'm confused because I use now a Shure PE56D made in the US, so I think the 565SD made in China was not made until recently. I just want to use the same mic that Freddie Mercury and other great singers used.
Love you from Rajasthan India
NO NO NO!
Not everything sounds great through a SM58 - that's a marketing lie and you know it. Anything on the dark side as a source will definitely come out sounding bad.
Having said that the Beta series are much better mics eq wise and they retain most of the 'balanced' dynamic response the older SM mics do except with a far more superior top end clarity. It's a pity sure don't sound like Sennheiser or Audio-Technica for example.
In my view the SM series do not deserve their reputation any longer because standards of sound quality have changed and they have been left behind. Many better sounding mics are just as rugged as the old shure gear. Shure have been lazy for over 20 years and now they are playing catch up using marketing.
100% agree with you.
in that case, what dynamic mics would you recomend instead?
@@lorenzocorrea9974 for the same or less money? sennheiser e835, akg d5.
Mics are subjective. Whatever you like, you like.
If you have a clear crisply articulated singing voice, a muddier less clear sounding mic like the SM58 is a very good choice or if you don't have a very trained and beautiful sounding singing voice and advanced singing technique, and therefore would not want all the imperfect flaws of your singing to be clearly heard, then the SM58 is also a good choice.
No entendi ni mierda ponga subtitulo en español
jajajajajjajaja xD
Has oido hablar de Magic English?
@@RedDeivid no que es?
Estudiar inglês és una Buena cosa. Todo queda más facil.
Can tell You from experience the Beta 58 is the hands down winner. Many years ago,in the 90s I did not know there was a Beta 58. At a show there was one on My stand. I sang a few songs and commented, "Thats the best 58 Ive ever sang thru". They said ,"Its not a 58,its something else". I said,"Its a 58". (It was pretty dark). So anyway, talk about a blind test!
Sounds like you have a good ear!
U canterey
Please enable subtitles on the videos, as the whole world watches the videos, and not everyone speaks English.
Second most overrated mic of all time behind the SM57 😜 lol Industry standards for good reasons, don’t get me wrong, but it would be inaccurate to say they are still unquestionably the best at what they do 🤷🏼♂️
Regardless, great idea for a video, and I’m glad I watched it!
Personal taste is not objective. What's your favourite?
Sorry, Shure mics totally suck...and any real musician knows it...
Why do you think that?