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@@jasonvors1922 How exactly is this clickbait?? It's literally about the 5000 series GPUs leaking. Also, who said I did have a motorcycle? I do actually, but who would even care if I didn't? lol
@@theironangel767 Actually the RTX 4070 Ti Super is 17% faster than the 4070 but it is 67% more expensive so if this also applies to the RTX 5K series then we can expect NGreedia to ask for a significant sum of money.
Nah not for 2k. I recon they'll be popping on 10% extra at least. They are called Ngreadia for a good reason, also new memory class and a wider bandwidth? They dont want to eat into their professional card profits too much, it will be getting a price bump at least.
I'm crying deep inside when I read comments from ppl justifying paying more than 2k for these cards.... This is how companies price hike if customers are ok with paying this much for a simple part of a PC.... 6090 - "Oh it's only $3000 not much more than 5090"
Well its not really a gaming card at this point...more like discount version of enterprise-grade cards. And these things are *EXPENSIVE* , so much so that using 4090 on its price peak isnt that actually bad deal.
while Nvidia's H800 cost $40k these 4090/5090 cards is basically entrance to the AI segment (or other intense tasks like rendering etc) for the retail enthusiasts, you don't really need it for gaming...
It's probably because of china export restrictions, the 5080 can't be more powerful than the 4090 so that's for the china market but the 5090 can be as powerful as they want bc it won't be sold in china. At least that's what MLID said roughly. And there are other leaks that seem to suggest the 5080 will be a slimmer and more efficient 2 slot card. Depending how they price it the 5080 might be a good deal because you essentially an "optimized" 4090 with rt uplift and gddr7 without the usual 4090 downsides of being huge and melting connectors Also potentially leaves room for a 5080 ti
Since AMD not going to compete with half the GPU lineup I bet Nvidia does a step down like they did a few years back. Expect what's labeled 5080 to be the actual 5070 chip equivalent and do it down the entire stack.
@jasonvors1922 as profitable as their A.I. chips are, they literally get paid not to try since that means less gpu's sold which means more silicon for A.I. chips. & losing some market share also helps them not be a monopoly. Which, surprisingly, only takes 50% markershare to be legally considered one.
It's more that they have physics demos (molecular) that run at 30fps on current hardware, inefficient AI with large delays, and other proprietary junk demos that take too much power to run. If it runs fast on a supercomputer, they'll try to push the supercomputer on us and say it's an exclusive experience and we'll all missing out.
@@mikeb3172damn good point u made me see. Guess they gonna have to find ways to not make us use thousands of dollars for an insanely high end graffics card that only runs well on the most expensive hardware. Still u can't by a porche and place on cheap tires.
@tomasdvoracek6098 not yet with the 5000 series, but you can see the specs of the 90 series really take off beginning with the 4000 series and even more so with the 5000. That is, if the rumors hold true. Every possible configuration has been rumored at this point.
It's funny how Nvidia creates Ray Tracing cards, then AMD and consoles follow. Nvidia adds DLSS to their cards. AMD follows. Nvidia add Frame Gen to their cards. AMD follows. Nvidia add AV1 encoding. AMD follows. Now it's "Nvidia doesn't care about gamers, and AMD is the savior 😆
@@EveryGameGuru funny how none of that happened because it was better for gamers but nvidia and came at a sgnificant price bump which gamers never asked for
@@EveryGameGuru ask people how they give a shit about ray tracing vs good rasterization performance? and then ask them are they happy with price bump all these technologies cost them, you will get your answer of what "Gamers" want vs whats being shoved down their throats. good meat riding tho
Nvidia is just Rick from Rick and Morty as this point. If they want they can just zap an even better gpu into existence but the reason they dont is because what they made already transcends everything else.
Nvidia really doesn't want people buying the 5060 :) keeping it on DDR6 and reducing its core count by 17% .. with higher Mhz and better IPC.. it should perform around the same as a 4060 :).. yep 100% checks out because the 4060 performs around a 3060
@@EveryGameGuru ok now I see that ur braindead, how is your comment relevant to defectiveclone's? Nobody, and I say NOBODY cares about ray tracing on such a low end graphics card, 4060 performs poorly on RT, hell even 4090 performs mediocre with RT on, keep on being a fanboy, why not use logic eh?
@EveryGameGuru Rasterization performance is basically the only important factor. AI shenanigans rarely look that good or add a ton of display lag. At 1080p and 1440p dlss really looks like trash. Nor will it be fast enough for Ray tracing. Dlss is really just running on a lower resolution but slightly better. Nvidia used to pride itself on making reasonably priced amazing graphics cards now they're making hot garbage and charging an arm and a leg for it.
@@lunawense6288 As somebody who has used RT and DLSS since the 2080Ti (then 3090, now 4090), I can tell you personally that everything you've said is false (or at best, opinionated) If all the AI features were gimmicks or useless, AMD would not be putting as much effort and money into their dollar store knock offs. What do you mean "Not powerful enough for Ray Tracing"? We're talking about Nvidia, not AMD.
You posted this EXACT same comment on the last 5090 video and got the most likes there. Must be one of those people that tries to farm likes on YT for some reason…
@@EveryGameGuru It is sad to say the fanboys are what is ruining the gpu market, Keep buying from either team green or team red even when issues persist wheather it be gimping or driver issues that last for months before being fixed. Both shouldn't be charging a premium for lack luster products vote with your money.
@@jasonvors1922 Yea, they're just giving us lighting techniques that used to take billion dollar studios DAYS to render one frame, except now at 60FPS, but definitely lack luster.
THAT is gonna be THE ULTIMATE make it or break it for me, with choosing between nGREEDia and AMD... But hey if the 5080 is rlly that bad, I will just wait out, just like the last almost 8 years, but specially now with my dual mode LG 4k 240Hz/1080p 480Hz monitor ill be riding my 1080Ti EASILY until the RTX 9000 and RX 12000 series come along, when the good ol 4090 or even 5090 is a chill >1000$ on used marketplaces :`) Like ive been waiting almost 8 years for a better GPU than the 1080Ti, but none ever were released... 8, or more likely 10 more years aint that bad! The only way id buy earlier, was if with the RTX 6000 series, they would first release the flagship model RTX 6090, for 1800$/$max, and then just release the RTX 6090 TI, RTX 6090 SUPER, and the RTX 6090 TI SUPER for anyone else except gamers!! :")
I dont understand why we need 5000 series already. I know its not a sample of everyone, but Steam charts have like 1.1% of people running a 4090, so hardly anyone even has one as it is. Why do we need a 50 series already? I know the answer will be $$$, but still, I think people are getting fed up with the prices as of late.
@@dauntae24 you can get triple digits with most VR headsets while being even more immersed. Only VR and real life can make me have that sinking feeling in my stomach when I go over a crest at high speeds.
Concerning Navi 48 XTX: That's just the internal code name for the GPU. For example, Navi 21 XTX was the 6900XT and Navi 21 XT was the 6800XT. If we apply that same logic, then the full Navi 48 XTX die might be the 8800XT and the cut down XT and XL versions could be the 8700XT and base models. Concerning RTX50 specs: I'm pretty sure they're going to undo the tier shift we got with the 40 series. So, GB205 shouldn't be anything higher than a 5070. It's more likely to be a 5060/Ti. GB207 looks like a 5050 to me or a laptop 5060.
I think I remember early leaks suggesting even the cut down gb202 was a monster compared to ad102(~55% perf increase) and there was a potential shot at the full gb202 being release later on.. plausibly a 5090ti and I even heard rumors of the Titan returning (~70% perf increase).
So I need an upgrade and I'm prepared to spend. My system is 7 years old. I have a 1080ti which is finally starting to show it's age. What is your opinion? Buy now (4090) as I'm keen to get started on some titles but can't play at a good enough quality or continue to wait and but the 5090?
Bro just wait for the 5090 at this point. Pointless spending an absurd amount of money on a 4090 only for it not to be the best GPU in a few months. A little more patience sir
SM increase isn't an overall increase dude! It has to be measured with all aspects like IPC, clock speed, and memory bandwidth. Seriously dude? You should have known about this.
i dont know why people are complaining about 9000x non 3d series being similar or even slightly slower in some cases when it comes to gaming performance vs the 7000x 3d series like its something new that never happened before... dude if you look at benchmarks you will see that 5800x3d was beating or had similar performance to the 7000x non 3d chips, i dont know why suddenly you just remembered to complain, where were you 2 years ago when you were praising your 5800x3d? be real and find something better to do with your time.
Not to mention that outside of games 9000`s will eat 7000`s alive, which is entire purpose of these high-end chips, they are for more serious work, while being lower end then actual new server processors.
10:33 The core decrease tells me that they are going to push AI bullsh*t even farther. "You don't need performance if you have frame generation 14.7 enabled. It generates 18 new frames between each 2 frames, so you can get up to 360 FPS even with a weak card!"
I think there will be max 15% actual performance gain at any level or more realistically average 10% increased performance with plus or minus in different games.
Ive been thinking about buying a new pc (4070ti + amd ryzen 7800x3d) in the next two to three months. Should i now wait until the new amd ryzen 9000 series and the rtx 5000 series are released or doesnt it matter?
Well idk 🤷🏻♂️ I can say this 9000 is only 2 gen after it is xd one then 11000 last gen and the xd ones as for 4070 ti ill say get tge super one or w8 for 5000 and see how the are am w8 since I only upgraded every 7 up to 10 years 😂😂
I would be fine seeing tech companies focus on efficiency over performance for a couple generations. CPUs and GPUs are already mega powerful, how about focusing on getting those tdp down?
My expectation of the RTX 50 series: GB202 512-bit bus - 5000 Pro series GB202 480-bit bus - 5090ti GB202 448-bit bus - 5090 GB202 384-bit bus - 5080ti GB202 320-bit bus - 5080 (Necessary to match 4090) GB203 - 5070 series GB205 - 5060 series GB206 - 5050 series GB207 - 5040 series Presently, nothing says that GB203 is 5080. Given the gap between GB202 and GB203 plus the monstrous size of GB202, it is most logical that the bulk of the cut down dies will be the RTX 5080. That rumor on GB202 cards having a 2 slot cooler suggests those are either the Pro cards or the 5080 cards. Look at AD102. The only model of AD102 that uses more than 300W is the 4090, which is why we haven't heard of the Professional card models not having melting connectors. That GB207 spec is just garbage, which means it is probably too low for even the 5050 status, suggesting an ultra budget 5030/5040 GPU for budget laptops or low power cards.
I personally don't hear about anything but the 90 series since that's the one I get each generation, it's kind of interesting and a odd move if there isn't some unknown factor here as to why the less expensive cards are not more feature rich since AMD basically has given up on competing in the high end segment and is putting all of their energy into the mid-range and lower. Usually more competition makes better prices and better products not worse. To me that does support the idea that they must be getting around a purely core count model and that they're able to get performance gains by quite a bit through other means than raw core power
AMD has def decided to re-continue their higher end RDNA 4 GPUs after realizing how much gamers will suffer due to RTX 5000. Hopefully this makes both Blackwell, and even Intel's Battlemage more competitive.
The channel "Daniel Owen" just released a video proving my point. Anybody who says 8GB isn't enough for modern games should go check it out. DEFINITELY enough for 1080p, which is what 8GB cards are for. If you're trying to run 1440p or 4K with an 8GB card, that's YOUR FAULT
@@trippiegod thank you, but well i'm not just looking for better raw performance, i also looking for the cheaper price and lower tdp (with some new feature) i hope the rtx 5060 is above 4060 ti, if not/same then i would like to buy 4070
Called it.. 100% of the benchmarks are based on non x3d chips. The 5800x3d is still a beast. The 7950x can't best the 5800x3d in games I need productivity so much I went from a 5800x3d>5950>7950x> to my current rig a 7985wx with 256gb od ram and a pair of rtx 6000 ada gpu's
@@VexxedSR I agree it's game dependent. But if the 5800x3d wins in in 20 games and the 7950x in 5 it's still an overall win for the 5800x3d. That said you need to skew this based on what you play the 7985wx can't beat a 7700x in gaming but stays pretty close. I do a ton of ai and Linux work so I needed a compiler pc so threadripper pro is where I found something that works at the speed I do
@@ZoeyR86 Yea it's all use case, for me if it was the choice between cores and cache I think I'd be more inclined to go with cores but the only real game I play that scales very well with cores/threads is BeamNG, would be fun to have 100s of AI cars driving around (if the GPU doesn't explode first lol)
@@VexxedSR for me it's mostly working or Sims either racing or flying. I have a full racing rig setup with my old 5800x3d and my flight sim has the 7950x system and desktop stuff is on the threadripper. The 6000 Ada's are on par with a 4090 with with ecc mode on and 2x the vram with nvlink.
Yea, I don't get it - a 7800X unfortunately isn't faster (for gaming that is) then a 5800X3D as it is (it sure is at non-gaming stuff though) - why would that change?? It def wasn't disappointing for me, and was predicting it to be similar as last round. So I wasn't really worried - but I am curious to see what other things AMD are doing this round that will be different from past X3D chips. 🙂 I have a feeling Nvidia will be like in the past - to stay cramped on VRAM, not offer much new performance for series change over, and further increased pricing like the past three gens. Of course, I'm expecting AMD to match those increased prices - at least initially, though I'm hoping AMD will continue to offer better VRAM configurations on most models. Would be nice if AMD could somehow pull off a Ryzen moment with their GPU's.... In other words, I'm expecting next gen GPU's to be mostly boring for anyone with not overly deep pockets and not purchasing the best of the best cards. But I am curious about Intel, they've made a lot of good moves in terms of getting their drivers up to scratch - so can we get good budget and mid range cards from them? I'm not expecting Intel to make much headway into Nvidia's market share (too new in the market), but if Intel's cards are good and they continue with their current march on driver refinement, they are def going to hurt AMD at some point (never saw Intel as a threat to Nvidia, but I have always seen Intel as a serious threat to AMD's GPU market share).
If the 5090 costs $1800 that’s about 4 years of usage for $40 per month. Or you can buy the 5080 and then upgrade to 5080ti for $1200 each and pay about $50 per month. 🤷🏼♀️ If you have the money up front then the 5090 is the better deal. That’s how it is with my 3090. It’s the only 30 series card that lastet 4 years. All the others are already either 3 years late or need to be upgraded early. But that math changes depending on their pricing of course. But if you can get 50% more power now, and get to keep it for 4 years, that’s a better card for longer and cheaper - it’s the deal IF you have the money. If you don’t then you need to start saving $50 per month going forward lol
Need to be upgraded?!? Are you running ultra settings with maxed out RT and path tracing? If not, there is no single reason to upgrade in 3-4 years, good cards can last much longer (like 1080 which is still on the charts along with modern cards).
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 1080p gaming is pretty outdated. I’m using a 500 dollar console as a benchmark. If you’re spending 4x more for less it’s kind of unreasonable imo and yes, needs to be upgraded to make sense
@@Bav92 Now that you said it...i know what type of person i am talking to. Despicable "console value" beliver, that doesnt know the difference between gtx1080 and 1080p.
@@Bav92 This is only explanation how you can interprete "good cards can last much longer (like 1080 which is still on the charts along with modern cards)." as "1080p gaming is pretty outdated." ,the card can and will do 1440p zero issues, even 4k if you are ok with frame gen (every console user is, because its the only way 6700 (not even XT) can be competitive with 3060 and likes).
Regarding x3d, if the entire 9000 series fails to beat the 7800x3d, for a vast amount of customers, that whole generation is doa until x3d arrives. And even if you buy a new setup, why would you put a new 9000 series in when the 7800x3d can be had on sale. The price of these new chips needs to be cheap or they are pointless to most people. People will argue productivity but tbh, you would buy a completely different thing if you actually wanted to use it for work, ie threadripper or epyc
The performance gap will be astonishing. I'm so hyped about the 5090 pairing with a 15900ks. I'm gonna get the white rog edition. Hope will handle well War Thunder on max settings in 2k.
2500$ US was the 4090 - 2022 released date price. a 5090, 50% faster they say: If you can get this on release date for 3000$, It would be extremely low price. I believe it will cost 5000$ US, then, 4000$ after 1+ year. you won't get this thing cheap.
RTx 5090 is for everyone who wants a gpu that can play demanding games like Alan Wake, Starfield, CP2077 and a few others in 4k/144+ with RT. I think it will be a farewell product as nVidia is now all in for AI and it will be years before anyone can catch up to the that level of performance.
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NOTE: I mistakenly said AMD at 7:40, but I meant Nvidia. No clue how I didn't notice that when editing, but sorry about that mistake.
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@GamerMeld not only is this clickbait but I wager you don't even ride a motorcycle Bruh.
@@theOne23 Oh wow thank you! I fixed it now.
@@jasonvors1922 How exactly is this clickbait?? It's literally about the 5000 series GPUs leaking. Also, who said I did have a motorcycle? I do actually, but who would even care if I didn't? lol
@@GamerMeld Show us motorcycle videos 🏍️
Damn man hit 300k and Best Buy is knocking on the door. Glad you’re getting the bigger bucks my guy
I'm calling it now! 5090 is going to be 50% faster than 4090 and will cost $1,999!
I hope ur right with the price.. Im afraid its gonna be worse since there is nobody to contest the 90 for the second year now.
I'm calling that they'll increase the price by the percentage its better than the 4090.... 50% faster, better be ready to shell out $2400USD
@@theironangel767 Actually the RTX 4070 Ti Super is 17% faster than the 4070 but it is 67% more expensive so if this also applies to the RTX 5K series then we can expect NGreedia to ask for a significant sum of money.
Nah not for 2k. I recon they'll be popping on 10% extra at least.
They are called Ngreadia for a good reason, also new memory class and a wider bandwidth? They dont want to eat into their professional card profits too much, it will be getting a price bump at least.
Make it 2500 and you might be right.
I'm crying deep inside when I read comments from ppl justifying paying more than 2k for these cards.... This is how companies price hike if customers are ok with paying this much for a simple part of a PC....
6090 - "Oh it's only $3000 not much more than 5090"
Well its not really a gaming card at this point...more like discount version of enterprise-grade cards. And these things are *EXPENSIVE* , so much so that using 4090 on its price peak isnt that actually bad deal.
while Nvidia's H800 cost $40k these 4090/5090 cards is basically entrance to the AI segment (or other intense tasks like rendering etc) for the retail enthusiasts, you don't really need it for gaming...
"Amd's entire rtx 5000 series line up" :P
It's one card LOL
2 so enough if we'll priced@@selohcin
I think the comment is stating how he says AMD'S entire rtx 5000 series even, tho it's Nvidia lol
Hey maybe AMD's next gpu will be almost as fast a 4090 and cost half as much...
Lol yeah. That was a goof. I have no clue how I didn't notice it when editing either. Sorry about that.
7:42 AMD’s entire 5000 series!!!! Hell yeah!
The gap between the 5090 and 5080 is INSANE. I'm shocked to see the X80 card have LESS THAN HALF of the silicon of the X90 card.
Nah the 5090 will be getting cut down to likely 160+ SM. We already know it’s 448bit not 512bit.
Well we will see@@ZackSNetwork
And the price gap between the 5090 and 5080 will not be that INSANE i bet you .....
That Twitter guy has "guessed" more wrong than right if spend 20 minutes and review old videos, this is pure entertainment while we wait.
It's probably because of china export restrictions, the 5080 can't be more powerful than the 4090 so that's for the china market but the 5090 can be as powerful as they want bc it won't be sold in china. At least that's what MLID said roughly.
And there are other leaks that seem to suggest the 5080 will be a slimmer and more efficient 2 slot card.
Depending how they price it the 5080 might be a good deal because you essentially an "optimized" 4090 with rt uplift and gddr7 without the usual 4090 downsides of being huge and melting connectors
Also potentially leaves room for a 5080 ti
Since AMD not going to compete with half the GPU lineup I bet Nvidia does a step down like they did a few years back. Expect what's labeled 5080 to be the actual 5070 chip equivalent and do it down the entire stack.
Exactly nvidia doesn't even have to try
@jasonvors1922 as profitable as their A.I. chips are, they literally get paid not to try since that means less gpu's sold which means more silicon for A.I. chips.
& losing some market share also helps them not be a monopoly. Which, surprisingly, only takes 50% markershare to be legally considered one.
7:40 you mean Nvidia right? :D Honest mistake I think, saying AMD / Nvidia, its bound to happen ;)
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Yeah, you're right, AMD RTX 5000 is gonna be insane, and Nvidia RX 8000 won't compete
GB207 with no GDDR7?, jeez... Nvidia making the x60 class GPUs worse and worse to force you to buy a higher tier GPU, nice...
It's a repeat of the rtx 40 series and will follow the same pattern, Stop buying their products
@@jasonvors1922 hahaha and buy what? the crappy amd cards that are coming?
@@iequalsnoob Buy used cards it gives them the finger 🤣
I feel like gb207 is gonna be reserved for like a rtx 5050 or maybe a 5050ti. It's not going to be the 5060 class of card.
I really don't like what they are doing in 40 series tbh, "4060" is basically a "4050" lol
Im starting to think NVIDIA has 8k in mind for the future of the xx90 series cards
Xx90 - 8k
Xx80 - 4k
Xx70 - 1440p
Xx60 - 1080p
Xx50 - budget
It's more that they have physics demos (molecular) that run at 30fps on current hardware, inefficient AI with large delays, and other proprietary junk demos that take too much power to run. If it runs fast on a supercomputer, they'll try to push the supercomputer on us and say it's an exclusive experience and we'll all missing out.
The more you buy the more you save 😅
@@mikeb3172damn good point u made me see. Guess they gonna have to find ways to not make us use thousands of dollars for an insanely high end graffics card that only runs well on the most expensive hardware. Still u can't by a porche and place on cheap tires.
not really even with 5090, maybe 4k in decent framerate...
@tomasdvoracek6098 not yet with the 5000 series, but you can see the specs of the 90 series really take off beginning with the 4000 series and even more so with the 5000.
That is, if the rumors hold true. Every possible configuration has been rumored at this point.
I'm not sure if wearing a motorcycle helmet counts as a buckle up.
AMD ...NVIDIA ..ITS ALL THE SAME...IT JUST WORKS.
YES
Good for us lol
At this point, the 5090 is a poor man's ML card. It is not a gaming card. And, nVidia is throwing bones to gamers.
It's funny how Nvidia creates Ray Tracing cards, then AMD and consoles follow. Nvidia adds DLSS to their cards. AMD follows. Nvidia add Frame Gen to their cards. AMD follows. Nvidia add AV1 encoding. AMD follows. Now it's "Nvidia doesn't care about gamers, and AMD is the savior 😆
@@EveryGameGuru u r right, but at least gamers won't sit without one kidney
@@EveryGameGuru funny how none of that happened because it was better for gamers but nvidia and came at a sgnificant price bump which gamers never asked for
@@FireFox-ch2tu All of it is better for gamers. If gamers didn't care, AMD wouldn't be trying to make dollar store copies of it all.
@@EveryGameGuru ask people how they give a shit about ray tracing vs good rasterization performance? and then ask them are they happy with price bump all these technologies cost them, you will get your answer of what "Gamers" want vs whats being shoved down their throats. good meat riding tho
I feel like Nvidia is going to be like: "The 5090 can crush anything at 8k 120fps. We're going to go back to AI stuff now...have a good day."
Nvidia is just Rick from Rick and Morty as this point. If they want they can just zap an even better gpu into existence but the reason they dont is because what they made already transcends everything else.
Nvidia really doesn't want people buying the 5060 :) keeping it on DDR6 and reducing its core count by 17% .. with higher Mhz and better IPC.. it should perform around the same as a 4060 :).. yep 100% checks out because the 4060 performs around a 3060
Bruh that's because most folks are to dumb to realize the gimp to keep buying the garbage Bruh
Yea, it's almost as if Nvidia cards have more features than just raster performance 🤔 Weird.
@@EveryGameGuru ok now I see that ur braindead, how is your comment relevant to defectiveclone's? Nobody, and I say NOBODY cares about ray tracing on such a low end graphics card, 4060 performs poorly on RT, hell even 4090 performs mediocre with RT on, keep on being a fanboy, why not use logic eh?
@EveryGameGuru Rasterization performance is basically the only important factor. AI shenanigans rarely look that good or add a ton of display lag. At 1080p and 1440p dlss really looks like trash. Nor will it be fast enough for Ray tracing. Dlss is really just running on a lower resolution but slightly better. Nvidia used to pride itself on making reasonably priced amazing graphics cards now they're making hot garbage and charging an arm and a leg for it.
@@lunawense6288 As somebody who has used RT and DLSS since the 2080Ti (then 3090, now 4090), I can tell you personally that everything you've said is false (or at best, opinionated) If all the AI features were gimmicks or useless, AMD would not be putting as much effort and money into their dollar store knock offs. What do you mean "Not powerful enough for Ray Tracing"? We're talking about Nvidia, not AMD.
I hope they fix the power connector on the 5090.
haha 5090 go boom
people just need to learn how to plug in a gpu properly. Nvidia has put basically an IQ-test there
@@Confector69 They are having an "ID10T" error.
The rtx 4080 super doesnt have the proplem
@@bloodrush6383 it has, cuz if you dont plug it in correctly the connector will fry the plastic.. it will simply take longer with 320W max.
I just hope you guys can beat the scalper bots this holiday, good luck 🍀
imagine the xtx was just a typo lol
5090 will be the most affordable budget card ever
A budget card for the american goverment
The more you buy, the more you save
You posted this EXACT same comment on the last 5090 video and got the most likes there. Must be one of those people that tries to farm likes on YT for some reason…
@@bigbo1764 A man of culture right here. 😏👌
I'm buying the 5090 just to make sure gpus never get cheap again for people.
50% faster 50% more expensive
the link doesn't work to go to best buy
pls fix
The VRAM is still the same and that sucks
It's gddr7 which will be a massive improvement
@@dorkasaurus_rex Doesn't matter it can't fix the gimping Bruh
it sucks that AMD has convinced everyone that vRAM = Performance
@@EveryGameGuru It is sad to say the fanboys are what is ruining the gpu market, Keep buying from either team green or team red even when issues persist wheather it be gimping or driver issues that last for months before being fixed. Both shouldn't be charging a premium for lack luster products vote with your money.
@@jasonvors1922 Yea, they're just giving us lighting techniques that used to take billion dollar studios DAYS to render one frame, except now at 60FPS, but definitely lack luster.
As Jensen said - "The more you buy, the more you get" 🤣🤣
why are they still putting 128 bit memory bus on the lower end cards?? all should be 12GB and 192 minimum...
Is NVidea still using those bad PSU connectors?
Yup. It's here to stay. Sadly.
THAT is gonna be THE ULTIMATE make it or break it for me, with choosing between nGREEDia and AMD... But hey if the 5080 is rlly that bad, I will just wait out, just like the last almost 8 years, but specially now with my dual mode LG 4k 240Hz/1080p 480Hz monitor ill be riding my 1080Ti EASILY until the RTX 9000 and RX 12000 series come along, when the good ol 4090 or even 5090 is a chill >1000$ on used marketplaces :`)
Like ive been waiting almost 8 years for a better GPU than the 1080Ti, but none ever were released... 8, or more likely 10 more years aint that bad!
The only way id buy earlier, was if with the RTX 6000 series, they would first release the flagship model RTX 6090, for 1800$/$max, and then just release the RTX 6090 TI, RTX 6090 SUPER, and the RTX 6090 TI SUPER for anyone else except gamers!! :")
@@morkalan5226this is all the most ridiculous and worst take/idea I’ve ever heard and it makes 0 sense
@@morkalan5226Just learn how to plug it in properly. It's REALLY not that big of a deal
@@morkalan5226 Nice essay but nobody cares.
How good is the Mic quality on the Nova 5 does anyone know?
They are probably gonna save the cut down 202's to be the 5080Ti
10:36. I think this is correct. They will compensate due to the smaller process node.
you kept saying AMD are launching the 5000 series
He was also saying the 5090 was weeks away. This guy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
@@mintymus he also doesnt know how to speak. He could really use some training in how to use his voice
Highly unrelated question but what helmet is that? I have a similar size head and I am in the market for a nice modular helmet.
amd rtx series, amd blackwell... amd just won
I dont understand why we need 5000 series already. I know its not a sample of everyone, but Steam charts have like 1.1% of people running a 4090, so hardly anyone even has one as it is. Why do we need a 50 series already? I know the answer will be $$$, but still, I think people are getting fed up with the prices as of late.
The AI bubble. People will buy the 5090 for AI.
My 4090 only gets me about 60 fps on 4K triples in my sim rig so yeah, I’d like to actually get into the triple digits fps wise.
@@dauntae24 Jensen leather jacket edition will cost 3k cash and you will have to pay a nvidia tax on top of that
@@dauntae24 you can get triple digits with most VR headsets while being even more immersed. Only VR and real life can make me have that sinking feeling in my stomach when I go over a crest at high speeds.
@@dauntae24 I understand that, but you're still in like the top 1% of people who do this kind of thing.
Concerning Navi 48 XTX:
That's just the internal code name for the GPU. For example, Navi 21 XTX was the 6900XT and Navi 21 XT was the 6800XT. If we apply that same logic, then the full Navi 48 XTX die might be the 8800XT and the cut down XT and XL versions could be the 8700XT and base models.
Concerning RTX50 specs: I'm pretty sure they're going to undo the tier shift we got with the 40 series. So, GB205 shouldn't be anything higher than a 5070. It's more likely to be a 5060/Ti. GB207 looks like a 5050 to me or a laptop 5060.
I think I remember early leaks suggesting even the cut down gb202 was a monster compared to ad102(~55% perf increase) and there was a potential shot at the full gb202 being release later on.. plausibly a 5090ti and I even heard rumors of the Titan returning (~70% perf increase).
So I need an upgrade and I'm prepared to spend. My system is 7 years old. I have a 1080ti which is finally starting to show it's age. What is your opinion? Buy now (4090) as I'm keen to get started on some titles but can't play at a good enough quality or continue to wait and but the 5090?
What's your CPU and your monitor?
Because you can buy a 4090 but your CPU or monitor might bottle neck it
Hi yes I'm aware this will be an issue. I am upgrading my whole build. Every part. So upgrade now or wait for the 50 series?
Bro just wait for the 5090 at this point. Pointless spending an absurd amount of money on a 4090 only for it not to be the best GPU in a few months. A little more patience sir
Just wait your build already isn’t bad
SM increase isn't an overall increase dude! It has to be measured with all aspects like IPC, clock speed, and memory bandwidth. Seriously dude? You should have known about this.
Home Slice what is up with the bike helmet? New look? Show us the wheels.
Would be better just to get the 9000 series. Performance gains from 3d vache vary depending on the game
Turing cards with GDDR6 are 10% faster than GDDR5... There's actually a good perf boost going to the next RAM gen.
i dont know why people are complaining about 9000x non 3d series being similar or even slightly slower in some cases when it comes to gaming performance vs the 7000x 3d series like its something new that never happened before... dude if you look at benchmarks you will see that 5800x3d was beating or had similar performance to the 7000x non 3d chips, i dont know why suddenly you just remembered to complain, where were you 2 years ago when you were praising your 5800x3d? be real and find something better to do with your time.
Not to mention that outside of games 9000`s will eat 7000`s alive, which is entire purpose of these high-end chips, they are for more serious work, while being lower end then actual new server processors.
But X3D chips are only good for games . Why is everyone getting so worked up about this
damm I stopped looking at this channel for a few months and it grew BIG
Do we have any leak on if NVidia got smart and DITCHED the burning connector design for the 5xxx?
Will this news make GamersMald?
With 1300 watts minimum power limit 🔥🔥 whole building on fire
Only way AMD can stay on top against competition is with the "Amd's Rtx 5000 series" of gpus. Truly insane.
Its a shame the artic app doesnt work with nova pro wireless
10:33 The core decrease tells me that they are going to push AI bullsh*t even farther. "You don't need performance if you have frame generation 14.7 enabled. It generates 18 new frames between each 2 frames, so you can get up to 360 FPS even with a weak card!"
I think there will be max 15% actual performance gain at any level or more realistically average 10% increased performance with plus or minus in different games.
Ive been thinking about buying a new pc (4070ti + amd ryzen 7800x3d) in the next two to three months. Should i now wait until the new amd ryzen 9000 series and the rtx 5000 series are released or doesnt it matter?
Well idk 🤷🏻♂️ I can say this 9000 is only 2 gen after it is xd one then 11000 last gen and the xd ones as for 4070 ti ill say get tge super one or w8 for 5000 and see how the are am w8 since I only upgraded every 7 up to 10 years 😂😂
I don't see why gamer's get excited about faster CPU's.
Unless you are still gaming on 1080P, the CPU is not your limit.
I would be fine seeing tech companies focus on efficiency over performance for a couple generations. CPUs and GPUs are already mega powerful, how about focusing on getting those tdp down?
Just checked on those headphones..
$130 at BestBuy, Walmart and Amazon.
bogos binted
👽
I am so lost as to what to. Build today or in July
I'm starting to think this 5090 gonna cost over the price of my full setup
My expectation of the RTX 50 series:
GB202 512-bit bus - 5000 Pro series
GB202 480-bit bus - 5090ti
GB202 448-bit bus - 5090
GB202 384-bit bus - 5080ti
GB202 320-bit bus - 5080 (Necessary to match 4090)
GB203 - 5070 series
GB205 - 5060 series
GB206 - 5050 series
GB207 - 5040 series
Presently, nothing says that GB203 is 5080. Given the gap between GB202 and GB203 plus the monstrous size of GB202, it is most logical that the bulk of the cut down dies will be the RTX 5080. That rumor on GB202 cards having a 2 slot cooler suggests those are either the Pro cards or the 5080 cards. Look at AD102. The only model of AD102 that uses more than 300W is the 4090, which is why we haven't heard of the Professional card models not having melting connectors.
That GB207 spec is just garbage, which means it is probably too low for even the 5050 status, suggesting an ultra budget 5030/5040 GPU for budget laptops or low power cards.
Power draw missing from leak. I am going back to bed...
GB202
Finally a comfortable 1080p gaming experience!
I personally don't hear about anything but the 90 series since that's the one I get each generation, it's kind of interesting and a odd move if there isn't some unknown factor here as to why the less expensive cards are not more feature rich since AMD basically has given up on competing in the high end segment and is putting all of their energy into the mid-range and lower. Usually more competition makes better prices and better products not worse. To me that does support the idea that they must be getting around a purely core count model and that they're able to get performance gains by quite a bit through other means than raw core power
so, 5060 will also have 8gb vram with 128bit bus and again ddr6😑,
looks like i have to wait more to get the 4060ti 16gb within perfect price
5050 will have ddr6, 5060 is going to have dd7
AMD has def decided to re-continue their higher end RDNA 4 GPUs after realizing how much gamers will suffer due to RTX 5000. Hopefully this makes both Blackwell, and even Intel's Battlemage more competitive.
The channel "Daniel Owen" just released a video proving my point. Anybody who says 8GB isn't enough for modern games should go check it out. DEFINITELY enough for 1080p, which is what 8GB cards are for. If you're trying to run 1440p or 4K with an 8GB card, that's YOUR FAULT
I switched from Intel to my first AMD PC with the 7800X3D... still loving it.
Just think about this.. 1060 to 1080ti is 3x cores/performance. 5060 to 5090 is 10x cores/performance. Nvidia is going hard to screw the mid range.
hmm, i'm curious, i wonder should i go with 4070 or 5060?
currently using rtx 2060 super, any ideas guys?
4070 is a better option 5060 will perform similar to 4060 but 4070 will outperform 5060 easily
@@trippiegod thank you, but well i'm not just looking for better raw performance, i also looking for the cheaper price and lower tdp (with some new feature)
i hope the rtx 5060 is above 4060 ti, if not/same then i would like to buy 4070
Called it..
100% of the benchmarks are based on non x3d chips.
The 5800x3d is still a beast.
The 7950x can't best the 5800x3d in games
I need productivity so much I went from a 5800x3d>5950>7950x> to my current rig a 7985wx with 256gb od ram and a pair of rtx 6000 ada gpu's
The 7950x can definitely beat the 5800x3d in games, just depends if the game scales better off cache or cores.
@@VexxedSR I agree it's game dependent.
But if the 5800x3d wins in in 20 games and the 7950x in 5 it's still an overall win for the 5800x3d. That said you need to skew this based on what you play the 7985wx can't beat a 7700x in gaming but stays pretty close. I do a ton of ai and Linux work so I needed a compiler pc so threadripper pro is where I found something that works at the speed I do
@@ZoeyR86 Yea it's all use case, for me if it was the choice between cores and cache I think I'd be more inclined to go with cores but the only real game I play that scales very well with cores/threads is BeamNG, would be fun to have 100s of AI cars driving around (if the GPU doesn't explode first lol)
@@VexxedSR for me it's mostly working or Sims either racing or flying.
I have a full racing rig setup with my old 5800x3d and my flight sim has the 7950x system and desktop stuff is on the threadripper. The 6000 Ada's are on par with a 4090 with with ecc mode on and 2x the vram with nvlink.
Nice crash helmet dude, becareful you don't fall off your seat!
Yea, I don't get it - a 7800X unfortunately isn't faster (for gaming that is) then a 5800X3D as it is (it sure is at non-gaming stuff though) - why would that change?? It def wasn't disappointing for me, and was predicting it to be similar as last round. So I wasn't really worried - but I am curious to see what other things AMD are doing this round that will be different from past X3D chips. 🙂
I have a feeling Nvidia will be like in the past - to stay cramped on VRAM, not offer much new performance for series change over, and further increased pricing like the past three gens.
Of course, I'm expecting AMD to match those increased prices - at least initially, though I'm hoping AMD will continue to offer better VRAM configurations on most models. Would be nice if AMD could somehow pull off a Ryzen moment with their GPU's....
In other words, I'm expecting next gen GPU's to be mostly boring for anyone with not overly deep pockets and not purchasing the best of the best cards.
But I am curious about Intel, they've made a lot of good moves in terms of getting their drivers up to scratch - so can we get good budget and mid range cards from them? I'm not expecting Intel to make much headway into Nvidia's market share (too new in the market), but if Intel's cards are good and they continue with their current march on driver refinement, they are def going to hurt AMD at some point (never saw Intel as a threat to Nvidia, but I have always seen Intel as a serious threat to AMD's GPU market share).
classic Nvidia
Amd's entire 5000 blackwell series
Kopite is a troll and wait for him to "change"
If the 5090 costs $1800 that’s about 4 years of usage for $40 per month.
Or you can buy the 5080 and then upgrade to 5080ti for $1200 each and pay about $50 per month. 🤷🏼♀️
If you have the money up front then the 5090 is the better deal.
That’s how it is with my 3090. It’s the only 30 series card that lastet 4 years. All the others are already either 3 years late or need to be upgraded early.
But that math changes depending on their pricing of course. But if you can get 50% more power now, and get to keep it for 4 years, that’s a better card for longer and cheaper - it’s the deal IF you have the money. If you don’t then you need to start saving $50 per month going forward lol
Need to be upgraded?!? Are you running ultra settings with maxed out RT and path tracing? If not, there is no single reason to upgrade in 3-4 years, good cards can last much longer (like 1080 which is still on the charts along with modern cards).
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 1080p gaming is pretty outdated. I’m using a 500 dollar console as a benchmark. If you’re spending 4x more for less it’s kind of unreasonable imo and yes, needs to be upgraded to make sense
@@Bav92 Now that you said it...i know what type of person i am talking to. Despicable "console value" beliver, that doesnt know the difference between gtx1080 and 1080p.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 🤦🏼♀️
@@Bav92 This is only explanation how you can interprete "good cards can last much longer (like 1080 which is still on the charts along with modern cards)." as "1080p gaming is pretty outdated." ,the card can and will do 1440p zero issues, even 4k if you are ok with frame gen (every console user is, because its the only way 6700 (not even XT) can be competitive with 3060 and likes).
If the GB207 is the 5050 and not the 5060 Blackwell could actually be really good
Like usual only at the top end will it be a big boost.
Why the modular motorcycle helmet?
OMFG!!!! what happened to your head?!..... its not a block of 8x8 anymore... what is goin onnnnnnnnnn!!!
Most probably we will expect a 12 GB 5060 on GDDR6. As GB207
Regarding x3d, if the entire 9000 series fails to beat the 7800x3d, for a vast amount of customers, that whole generation is doa until x3d arrives. And even if you buy a new setup, why would you put a new 9000 series in when the 7800x3d can be had on sale. The price of these new chips needs to be cheap or they are pointless to most people. People will argue productivity but tbh, you would buy a completely different thing if you actually wanted to use it for work, ie threadripper or epyc
GPUs made from GB207 will be one of the worst NVIDIA product of the 2020s, must avoid
Why?
@@dorkasaurus_rex his only reason is hes an amd fanboy. he has nothing to answer your question with.
@@iequalsnoobdo you understand what he said?
@@iequalsnoobdo you know what gb207 is ?
@@iequalsnoobdo you like 3050 with ga 107?
The performance gap will be astonishing. I'm so hyped about the 5090 pairing with a 15900ks. I'm gonna get the white rog edition. Hope will handle well War Thunder on max settings in 2k.
2k? Its 16k or nothing with card like this.
I hope the GPUs lower in price too since they're removing %17 of cores... that's a major difference
Performance will be mediocre,...price and availability will be disappointing.
7:42 Breaking: AMD’s Entire Rtx 5000 Blackwell series…😂
They are pushing everyone to “tier up”. Good god Nvidia, you are so greedy.
2500$ US was the 4090 - 2022 released date price. a 5090, 50% faster they say: If you can get this on release date for 3000$, It would be extremely low price. I believe it will cost 5000$ US, then, 4000$ after 1+ year. you won't get this thing cheap.
I’ve never been one to follow cpu rumors. Only graphics cards are interesting enough for me to care before anything is finalized.
Have a great day, man! Can't believe you went from 20k subs to over 300k since I've been subbed; you earned it!!!
feeling good about my recent 7800x3d purchase
9000 not beating 14900 is insane 😮
"5090 IS THE ONLY JUMP BIG SUPRISE"
As long as 5080s are under 1000(they won't be ) everything will be fine
i like how 5050 is getting nerfed hard.
5000 series did going to be an absolute disgrace
RTx 5090 is for everyone who wants a gpu that can play demanding games like Alan Wake, Starfield, CP2077 and a few others in 4k/144+ with RT. I think it will be a farewell product as nVidia is now all in for AI and it will be years before anyone can catch up to the that level of performance.
More hyped for 9800x3d finally a worthy upgrade from 5800x3d, for high hz gaming.
welcome to the new 5060 TI with a massive 8GB Vram at three times the price lol
Thumbs up for the helmet alone. 😂
I already took a loan out against the equity of my house, so I’ll be ready