Black Adam: How Accurate is It to the Comics?
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Black Adam is the latest DC Comics superhero movie and the latest big budget action film by The Rock. But how accurate is it to the comic books? This episode looks at plot, supporting characters, places and things, and Black Adam himself to point out the specific areas it drew from the comic books like Captain Marvel and JSA. - Zábava
If you look at when his son is transformed into black Adam for the first time, you can see that his son is actually the comic accurate black Adam with the hair and everything. Just a neat Easter egg
Yeah it was a blink and u miss it kinda easter 🥚it was only shown for like a second but you could see the hair
The Rock in 2002 looked just like Black Adam though lol
I thought it was his nephew not his son, how different is the film from the comics?
@@HugoYogurt Nephew in comics, Son in film.
@@HB-fq9nn the dcu and comics are very different it seems
Actually, Adam origin in the film is more close to the new 52 version, where it was his nephew his powers and gave to Adam to save his life. However, after his nephew refuse to free Kahndaq through violent means, Adam killed him and was punished by the Wizard Shazam until he was free by Sivana.
i feel like Chris said he's incubating idea of making a video about New 52 so I hope he'd read more from that era of DC
@@TheZooropaBaby new 52 gets hate but I actually do love a lot of what’s there tho
The Wonder Woman run by Azzy and Snyder’s Batman is liquid fire
Same I wanted Dawyne Johnson to snap a child's neck
@@ItsButterBean1020 yea New 52 was kinda cool.
I thought maybe I was misremembering that black adam got his powers from his nephew, then killed his nephew because of a difference in views and to get the "full power"...I think that was a missed opportunity in the movie to make black adam a "real villain" in need of redemption, or if he could even be redeemed.
I appreciate the detail you provide on each of the characters. You are very thorough! Your delivery is measured and clear. I enjoyed the video very much!
Can you imagine if the movie had just suddenly stopped when Hawkman appeared, and Black Adam asked something like "Who are you then?", only for Hawkman to give like a 30-minute long monologue about his absolutely-bonkers backstory?? Would've made the movie a solid 9/10 for me!
the opposite for me. Thats what ruined Justice League. Too much exposition.
They shouldve had adam, hawkman and dr fate have a shared history,
@@kmakumane258 this! in the comics they do
What would’ve made it a 10/10 is if he asked who Hawkman was then as Hawkman answers, Black Adam interrupts and say it doesn’t matter what your name is.
@@heelturnsface Black Adam: "Whats your name?" Hawkman: "Well, thats actually quite complicated, and requires us to go back to ancient Egypt..." Black Adam, powering an attack: "I have decided I don't actually care"
As a huge JSA fan, I did notice quite a bit from Geoff Johns run in the early 2000s. The general plot of Adam taking over Kandaq and the JSA seeing him as an illegal invader was true to the comics. The movie didn't get the JSA very well, but I think most people can tell that even if they never read JSA.
You should watch dc stargirl live action show geoff johns is the showrunner
I liked them but yeah they felt pretty off from what I’d expect
didnt get black adam well either
But he didn’t “take over Kandaq” he sat on one throne, said it felt wrong and then said they don’t need a ruler, they need a protector.
@@timeyinsholaye9169 why not
Personally, for spin-offs/sequels, I'd really like an adaptation for The Golden Age in the form of an 8-10 episode show to introduce the JSA, and maybe a Fate show. Black Adam is in kind of a hard spot because his most iconic stories are probably Black Reign and 52, and they don't follow directly that well into one-another without some time passing. Plus, being an antagonist himself, it isn't like he has a huge Rogues gallery. Perhaps you could have him help the JSA against Johnny Sorrow, Shadowpact against Eclipso or the Spectre, the Marvel Family against Mr Mind's Monster Society, or Superman against Darkseid (I imagine this one is their plan from what they've said in interviews).
Character development-wise, I'd say what would make the most sense would be a movie about Black Adam letting go of his past and starting a new life and family in the present, so perhaps some villain with Time or Reality Warping powers or Illusion magic would make the most sense. So someone like Nero, Mr Mxyzptlk, Mr Mind or Eclipso should work.
They did leave some threads to follow for sequels and spinoffs. They definitely have enough to make a spinoff about the JSA, especially with the future of Dr Fate (I'm trying not to spoil the movie) And since the movie's JSA lineup was tiny, there are so many characters they can add. Mr Terrific is an easy add since DC seems high on him and he's got super science going for him. The Sandy Hawkins version of Sandman would be very visually interesting to see on screen. I would love to see Power Girl in a movie, but I kinda doubt DC will ever use her.
Intergang could be used in other DC movies to set up the big showdown with Darkseid down the line.
There's the obvious team-up/fight between Black Adam and Shazam.
And the big one (what Dwayne Johnson has been pulling for) is Black Adam vs Superman. I have no idea what the plot would be. It could be its own movie or could be featured in Black Adam 2 or Shazam 3.
YESSS I will fucking kill for this
I think I was good
Thank you! Was hoping you'd take a hack at this movie. (We have two kids and won't be seeing it until it's streaming.) Made my night, Chris!
I think my favorite scene was when Black Adam woke up in the boy's bedroom and shot lightning at the Superman poster. Then later when he's fighting Hawkman, they're back in the bedroom destroying more....
DC itself didn't remain accurate to the original Fawcett character. I think this is loyal to Geoff Johns.
Well, Johns was a producer on the movie and I'd bet he was a creative consultant. Plus, he got an extra payday because he created Cyclone.
From a reasoning perspective the Fawcett Comics originals had very defined rules... the idea of Black Adam was that he was equally as powerful as Captain Marvel and from that perspective it would be catastrophic for a character like that, leaning to be greedy, etc to exist... the stupidity was the logic that once he turned back human he would just "age away to dust" which was just weak story given these characters were MAGICAL powered.
DC was technically the villain here as they were basically mad that the Captain Marvel Comics were outselling Superman and the fact that readers felt he was way more relatable and thus sparked the imagination than Superman did.. . Because Billy Batson was an ordinary human and not some special alien being that automatically gets powers on Earth.
In fact DC often contradicted itself when they claimed that Superman was weak to the supernatural and magical beings... which is what Captain Marvel and Black Adam, Doctor Fate, Spectre are...
As far as how DC reinvented the characters. The times were different and writers had experience managing super powerful villains as corny heels that would "run away and get you next time" plus the Comics code association had neutered comic stories to be explicitly for toddlers or something... essentially excluding older readers and stigmatizing Comics as kids and nerd stuff much like videogames which was cultural thing here in the U.S.A. as you could literally get beat up and publicly made fun off or mocked just for talking about comic books...
As such DC had a dismissive attitude towards the character because they maintained their trinity of batman supers and wonderwoman who each had multiple books and often the writers who wrote Captain Marvel and Black Adam stories just focused on dumb and predictable storytelling which was a longstanding problem at DC, especially when they decided to have the multiple Earths and books.
Thus far this new reinvented Black Adam origin is much more sensible and credible...
The original concept was Teth Adam's super powers eventually awakened greed and lust for power which is a bit weak story logic given that he is powered by ancient deities... some of which gave him wisdom to know right from wrong which Captain Marvel never flops on hence why he is more relatable than superman... who's only logic is that he was raised by a good farmer... when the reality is that not all farmers and country folks are all "good people" which is a generalization.
Uncle Ben's sacrifice just comes off as more innocent for Peter Parker because he too was starting to get drunk with power which is I guess why Zack Snyder remade the superman origin in Man of Steel which was just much better than most throw away comic stories
The real problem with this movie is that the kid is kinda shoved in our faces as the mascot of the movie... he knows too much about "superheroes" and it becomes corny af when he keeps mentioning them... he is essentially a fanboys comic reader and often such a character will come off as cringe and offensive to nerd comic readers who are extremely likely to act the same way.
Also that woman was a bit corny too, sure she is being set up as a major character but she comes off as way too preachy (same with the kid) but she was funny as she basically scolded Black Adam and he stayed quiet which is comical material and good writing.
Also there is too much story in one movie... fit an origin, agenda, etc and two hours is not enough... this should have been better planned as two and a half hours... hopefully there's an extended version.
I wasn't too worried about the spoilers, but surprisingly enough, this makes me want to see the movie even more! I dig the comics-to-movie comparisons!
Even though he was just in a few different comic series' issues (1st appearance reprint, the "new" Captain Marvel series in the late 70s, the giant treasury edition and DC Presents. Even in Crisis) , Black Adam was always one of my favorite villains as a kid. Especially the suit (which I prefer in its original depictions of completely black with little shading). A nice classic archvillain. As cool as his battles were, I really wanted to have him go against Earth-S' Ibis and Isis. Interesting to see what modern comics have done with him and some of the JSA. And nice to see Ma Hunkle still getting some spotlight all these decades later.
Appreciate that you displayed Craig Thompson’s Blankets in your outro - one of my very favorite graphic novel!
Gotta say, i really liked the movie. It just took you on a fun 80s-style popcorn ride. The JSA was actually likable and not annoying. Atom Smasher was surprisingly cool. And of course, it has the greatest credits cutscene ever. It probably could've edited out about 15 minutes or so, but regardless, it was just simply....fun.
It was a crappy ripoff of marvel movies (before marvel movies became crappy ripoffs of marvel movies). There is a reason it's going to lose the studio $200m.
This was a well-put video. I would like to see more of these for not only DC movies but also Marvel movies as well
It would have been great if there was some connective tissue between Black Adam and Hawkman - like an age-old beef because BA blames Kufu for not doing enough to help the people of Kahndaq and thus causing them to suffer. I also wish they could have deepened the relationship between Dr. Fate and Hawkman in a way that shows that Fate had seen Carter Hall die before when they were younger in the JSA and he didn't want it to happen again.
I love the ancient Egypt trope wouldn't mind seeing a Hawkman movie!
Nice work with another informative episode! Your channel just keeps getting better and better! (Do I hear a nice, new microphone?) While I enjoyed hearing your take on the character, it's a shame you left yourself out of the episode. I think your on-camera appearance gives the channel a warmer feel that other channels don't have. Perhaps the chapter breaks could have been punctuated by your presence..? I really like the way the cuts to you in the other episodes often added an interesting footnote or aside. Overall, though, of course this was another well-researched, fun episode... and I'd love to see a formal review of the film from you in the future!
The talk between Superman and Black Adam at the end I need to know what happens next 😅it was a really fun movie fun action superhero shit ! Lol
I wouldn’t be surprised if Superman convinced Black Adam to stop and figure out the world before jumping to conclusions and trying to change it. And in the process of self-reflection, he would become better as a result.
Otherwise, Black Adam will do some horrible mistakes. Example:
In comics, when he just woke up, he saw people protesting some businessmen. So, he said “Pharaons take away from people and must be punished”, flies up and dropped that CEO from his penthouse down to the protesters (slat on the pavement).
Instead of gratitude, Black Adam got boooed, since now there would be nobody to compensate those people for being underpaid.
People often forget how simple-minded Black Adam is due to him living many centuries ago - concepts of economy, globalization, interest, stock market and hedge funds, misinformation etc are alien to him.
So, since Superman’s greatest power is finding good in people and giving them the light push they need in the right direction, it is utmost certain that this is exactly what happened.
appreciate this style of video!
52 is the only weekly comic I’ve ever enjoyed. Great video!
Excellent vid Chris!
Great video Chris! Hope you get to do one for Wakanda Forever.
This video was great! I didn't pick up on the Ma Hunkel connection with Cyclone at all.
It was a fun movie, had a very 80's action movie vibe, refreshing take.
Nah
The scene when Adam first woke up was amazing. The rest of the movie was okay, but that one scene was so good.
It's refreshing to have a fun cape movie that takes itself seriously and isn't trying to be woke.
@@maxstrike3022 yeah but nah
I thought it felt more 90s than 80s. Especially with the kid CONSTANTLY on his skateboard.
Also the kid trying to teach Black Adam a catchphrase reminded me of John Connor in Terminator 2.
Was anybody annoyed at how many times Dr Fate took off his helmet like your design is perfect just keep the helmet on
It's a thing with superheroe movies. Every actor wants face time. That's why Spider-Man always gets his mask ripped off in the climactic fight at the end of his movie. Plus, you hire an actor like Pierce Brosnan, you want to get the most out of him (though just his voice as Fate was great)
I did and I get tired of it. Actors should know what characters they´ve chosen to play. Karl Urban did it perfectly. If they´re amazing as they are then their talents should show beyond the masks.
At the very least, had him take his helmet off just when he was with the team. Or even better than that, imagine the face of the viewers (that did not know) when after the whole movie Doctor Fate reveals himself prior of him "dying".
@@fattiger6957 Most posters of the Spiderman movies are awul because of that.
More so, don´t know in the comics. but in the MCU superheroes don´t have secret identities. So why should Spiderman or Daredevil?
To be fair, with the helmet on it Nabu who is controlling the body. So technically he needs to take off the helmet to interact with people personally, and I doubt that Nabu is good at social interactions so he allows Kent to take the helmet off.
I don't know why movie Cyclone's outfit was purchased from J.C. Pennies with a re-painted TMNT shell she got from Wal-Mart as a breastplate. All that money spent in the movie, but her outfit felt last minute. Seriously, wtf.
I’d trust your take on comic movies above most, Chris! Thanks for this video!!
All I can say is that I watched the Isis show on Saturday mornings back in the 70s and I loved it. I cannot say how good it actually was, thought, because I had the hots for the star pretty bad. Oh, and Shazam was good too.
I liked the movie
I would have loved to see Power Girl in the movie. But I doubt DC will ever use her in any movie (or any live action project, for that matter) DC Comics has had a problem with her for a long time and the movies seem to be all in with Supergirl (despite PG having always been more interesting that SG)
One of my favorite comic based channels out there. Keep up the great work.
@3:16 damn The Rock is not the only swole actor in this movie
Fun deep dive! I didn't know the current DC Black Adam was canonically a different person from the original, I though it was just a normal retcon.
I just want to see a series of Ma Hunkel as the Red Tornado. I wish the Sheldon Mayer comics were available!
Me too! Someone should put Ma Hunkel comics in James Gunn's inbox - it's the sort of character he would love to adapt. Maybe for next season of Peacemaker?
This was great! Thanks for the history lesson
Great episode ❗🔥💯
While I really enjoy Geoff Johns work. It is super concerning that so many of dc mega productions have been based on his work. Its like DC is super vulnerable to bullying pushy businessmen. The same could be said for the Rock. Who for as awesome as he is, also forces the character in the path he wants. If Shazam (i cant believe im calling captain Marvel this) doesnt beat him to the ground in the next move i will lose all my respect for Dwayne Johnson. The egos of these individuals are kneecapping the potential for deep meaningful storytelling, which is DC s main strenght.
The Rock seems way more interested in having Adam fight Superman than Shazam.
Captain Marvel never really beats Black Adam to the ground. They’re equally matched in power, so their fight could go either way.
@@victornieves1794 yeah but there are 7 members of the Shazam Family. They should be able to make him yield
@@mrhypnagogia That’s if the other members are in the fight.
Lol Why does Dwayne's confidence bother you so much? In the pre-Flashpoint DC Universe Black Adam was stronger than Shazam. Superman has said that Black Adam hits harder and Black Adam once defeated Shazam when he also had the wizard's powers. The DCEU Black Adam is heavily based on his pre-Flashpoint incarnation and just from the films alone BA has way more experience than Shazam. How can that goofy, inexperienced kid possibly defeat Adam without help?
“What would you like to see in the sequel?” That did not age well, lol
That would have been nice to see a live action Hawkgirl in that outfit from that comic you showed.
Wasn't Joanna Cameron also in the Spiderman TV show?
Yes. In a two-parter that had a theatrical release here in Brazil.
@@Bolsonaro_em_Haia same in the UK. I've only ever seen the show in movie form
Seeing Doctor Fate just sat at one of those classic super hero roundtables just always looks so damn funny to me.
I don't know why it's him in particular that cracks me up so much, hope I'm not alone on this though.
Great video ! :)
Love your show. How about doing a show of a group of writers and artists that called themselves Man of Action.
I think the origin made for Black Adam in the movie, is more appropriate for an antihero with the potential to become a hero and a fan favorite. I remember reading mid 2000s comics in which Black Adam goes insane with grief after Isis' death, and then attacks cities around the world, committing mass murder before Martian Manhunter managed to take away his powers; the fact the 'New 52' version murdered his own nephew to seize the powers Shazam granted the latter, is deplorable.
I loved the movie. I especially loved how absolutely powerful Adam was. Like a true god Like being. I thought it was the perfect mix of action with a tiny hint of comedy in there. The only thing I felt could have been done better was to give more context and screen time to the villain.
Imo, the film should have Ben the superhero team-up from the villain’s perspective, showing Adam’s struggles and internal issues while faced with the Justice Society of America
The only thing missing was Black Adam hair no one wanted Bald Adam so disrepctful imajine if he did played Shazam Bald 😒... a wig like he had on Hercules and scorpion king would have been way better
@@doaldox they based it on Injustice 1's Black Adam's look.
@@emiliomarbanjr Actually they based Black Adam on injustice after the rock... they announced he got the role back in 2007 and the movie has been delayed so many times
Dwayne Johnson's BLACK ADAM was perfect! Not only did he make the right choice, he fought for the last 15 years for it. Hands down, visually right out of the comics. BRAVO!
Love these thumbnails 👍🏻
It was an enjoyable movie for me, but as a huge Superman fan, the post credit scene was awesome
I genuinely thought this was a fun movie with a great comic book tone. Maybe it was the low expectations I had, but I liked that it didn't pretend to be deeper than it actually was (unlike certain Marvel movies). It's a shame they screwed up the plot twist by giving it away in the trailers. I think it would have had more impact if we weren't expecting it.
I did not catch it in the trailer, so, it really took me by surprise.
I'd like to see Black Adam fight Shazam
As a JSA/Hawkman fan, I went in with very low expectations and it turned out that I thought it was the best DC universe movie in years. (though I did like the Emancipation of Harley Quinn and most people hate that one heh) I am very glad they did not include the Shazam cast because that movie was ridiculously terrible.
They really did do justice to Hawkman in the film even though I was never really a fan of his in the comics. But yeah, that Shazam film was pretty bad.
@9:39 Cyclone WAS a ginger, lol. Maxine Hunkel got Jimmy Olsen'd
For Sequels/Spin-offs, I'd want a movie showing Black Adam becoming a villain. And then a live-action full-length movie version of Superman/Shazam: The Return of Black Adam
Can you do a video on Monster Kill Squad by Bad Idea comics? I'm told it has very 80's style cheesy dialogue. But some cool monsters.
Would love to see a JSA movie.
Black Adam would have been a better movie if it had featured some Marvel Family members instead of the JSA. For starters, it makes more sense for Billy or Freddie to be the one trying to convince Black Adam that heroes don't kill. Hawkman saying "heroes don't kill" sounded absurd and goes against the very nature of the character. I mean, the guy is either a Thanagarian soldier or a reincarnated Pharaoh... so any way you slice it, killing enemies is part of his job description. Plus, from Superman to Wonder Woman to Aquaman to Batman... most if not all of the movie Justice League has already killed at least once. So it would have made more sense if Captain Marvel had been the one trying to reign in Black Adam.
After all, the JSA even existing came from left field. No real back story was given, nor an explanation as to how they knew Shazam's Magic Word (which is something only the Marvel Family would know.) Truth be told, it was one of the most jarring parts of the movie. The moment you saw them, their tech, their headquarters and heard allusions to a long shared history, the only thing I could think of was: why did they ignore Zod's invasion? And Steppenwolf's invasion? And why neither Wonder Woman nor Batman ever mentioned the JSA when they were recruiting heroes to fight Darkseid?
Bottom line, Warner Bros should have used Black Adam to expand the Justice League's future membership instead of retconning a JSA backstory that doesn't fit. After all, both Hawkman and Dr. Fate have been part of the Justice League of America in both comics and cartoons.
Anyways... I liked most parts of the movie but it "undid" a lot of the world building that had been done before, and lacked the type of easter eggs that drive repeat viewings. Plus, I cringe, throw up in my mouth and roll my eyes to the back of my head all at once, every time I hear or see the word "eternium". Seriously... that's got to be the stupidest and laziest idea ever! It was hack writing when it was introduced in the Legion of Super-Heroes and it literally takes me out of the movie every time it's on screen. Plus, it's totally unnecessary and a complete waste of time. Seriously!!! I mean... even a child knows that if you introduce Kryptonite in the first act, it's going to be used in the third act!!! But was it? Was eternium all that important? Nope!!! So what was the point? Seriously, talk about a movie shooting itself in the foot over and over.
I’m convinced they combined Hawkman and Mr. Terrific in the movie. It was the jacket that tipped me off and Hawkman being the team tech guy is consistent with that.
I can’t believe how indestructible they made hawk man
Dr Fate needs his own movies
Atom smash was corny except when he would use his powers
Fun thx!
Where's your face Chris? It's always a delight to see you!
This movie felt like a story Amon came up with whilst playing with his action figures 😂
Exactly...the characters have no character. No memorable dialogue apart from"we don't kill"..." Old friend you will die I've seen the future"...and then some random dickhead become a villain outta the blue.
The way the JSA were given no depth is the only weak part of the movie. And how Dr Fate was used, that was the worst part, fkn yikes.
@@emiliomarbanjr apparently they took out all the jsa's scenes bc the producers thought it took away from black adam/the rock but its like what tf did yall expect??? ofc the jsa is gonna get ppl's attention moreso than the rock impersonating black adam
Loved this video and the Black Adam film! Was awesome seeing the JSA on the big screen!
Adam is truly a personification of chaotic neutral
I thought that the boy would have picked up the helmet and become the new Doctor Fate. Would have been interesting if he had. So, who will be the next cinematic Doctor Fate?
Thanks for this. I haven't seen the movie. Just wanted to say that your description of Hawkman's origin is about as accurate as it could be. The Silver Age Hawkman, one of my favorite characters (yes, I'm that old) was destroyed by Tim Truman's Hawkworld series, and DC has never recovered. I was a big Truman fan before then, but afterword not so much. DC could have easily claimed the Hawkworld series was "Elsewords," but it instead tried to incorporate the series into the mainstream. Give us a "magic" Hawkman and a "science-based" Hawkman, separated by a couple of decades, as you did the two Green Lanterns. Rather, DC tried to incorporate the two characters into one, unsuccessfully into one, in my opinion. A disaster!
It's pretty close except in the original Black Adam origin the wizard Shazam banished Black to the furthest star in the universe and it took him 5000 years to get back to Earth.
That was his pre crisis origin story
This is closer to post crisis origin
@brothersofwrath4785 Hey, I'm old-school I prefer the original as opposed to the made up modern origin version.
@@kimbelsimpson7535 that bad that version was buried by DC comics themselves and rendered irrelevant
@brothersofwrath4785 Well, that's the whole problem thanks to Crisis on Infinite Earth's and the New 52 everything you know about a hero or villian's origins is irrelevant and that's one of the reasons I don't read comics anymore because writers are always changing a character's back story.
@@kimbelsimpson7535 rebirth was meant to fix those problems and doomsday clock too
I do remember the movie, touching ok atom smasher, where he gets his powers they were inherited from his uncle
Nuklon was also a member of Infinity, Inc..
I would really like to see a similar video on Namor from Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. They made a lot to changes to Namor's backstory and history, Talokan instead of Atlantis for example, (and even personality to some extent) which I think really benefited the new take on the character. I am not a fan of comic Namor at all (even though I am huge a Fantastic Four fan) but I thought Tenoch Huerta did an awesome job in the role and I cannot wait to see more of him in future MCU installments. Hopefully he gets his own movie too.
Great video on Black Adam btw. I'm not a fan of Black Adam at all and the movie still didn't make me a fan. To me, it was a movie where Dwayne Johnson played a really powerful guy and that was it. Very mediocre. Would have loved a movie focused on the JSA instead. They felt more compelling and interesting to me.
Way, waaayyy back in the beginnings of the MCU, there was talk of a Namor movie, to be headlined by Dwayne Johnson.
Given how awful and unrelated to the comic books most superhero movies are (specially the movies and shows from the mcu which 95% of them are cringe) i would love for Chris to do reviews of them.
Dude this is a DCU talk and you're talking about MCU movies... you clearly never purchased a comic book in your life.
@@apollosungod2819 They just said they'd like to see a similar video to this one, and why
Might as well have given him a different name cuz he's essentially a different character now lol. It honestly kinda sucks we won't ever see Marvel's Atlantis on the big screen now.
Come to think of it, Black Adam did had a very little time in his own movie.
I'll get to the movie eventually. Thanks to this video, I somewhat want to watch it now.
HEY dude i am woking on a comic book and i need an advice
Ma Hunkle's Red Tornado was DC's first female costumed crime fighter, coming before both Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl.
Honestly
I saw JSA
And I was in no matter what else.
I dug it. 7.5/10
I didn't realize how minor Intergang played into the 52 era of Adam, glad to hear that DNA had some validity in the books, thank you Chris.
Agghh, I guess I'm an old fogey. Both the movie and the comics that the movie is based upon are so different from the comics I grew up reading back in the 70s, much less the original Captain Marvel/Black Adam stories from the 40s and 50s. The comics are all about change, including the ones I read while growing up, but as I grew older, I resisted the changes, wanting things to be what I grew up with forever. To enjoy the newer comics and movies, I have to let go of my childhood/teenage expectations, and simply enjoy them on their own terms.
I liked the film. Obviously it wasn't as good as an Infinity War or Guardians of the Galaxy, even lesser than The Batman or Dark Knight, but still found it entertaining enough to think it was good. It felt very comic book-y which I can imagine will put people off and the humour was either not enough it too odd tonally to the rest or the film. I will end up seeing it again for sure when it's on streaming but it wasn't good enough to pay to see it at the cinema for a 2nd time. Having Superman sent by Amanda Waller at the end opens up quite an interesting opportunity for future films also. I hope this does well for the film to continue the universe. I would like to see a JSA team with as many team members as possible, even if just brief interactions
I liked the movie, felt the JSA were a bit more on the nose than they should be, but i liked how they just chuck you into the world and say: "yeah there's jetbikes, and people know magic exists."
I thought it could've been paced better honestly, Black Adam's return wasn't as hyped as it should have been.
It's subtle, and you'd have to be knowledgeable of it, but they do have Hawkman mention in passing how he's not afraid to die. I took that to meaning he's aware that he has been reincarnated. Overall, I was honestly underwhelmed by the film. Pierce Brosnan's Kent Nelson/Doctor Fate was the highlight of it, whereas I could not muster up any reason to care about the titular character. The trailer already divulged everything about him, and it was a paint-by-numbers redemption arc that offers little to invest in, in my opinion. Also, the kid was insufferable, like a worse John Conner from Terminator 2.
I grinned at that line. It was wise to keep his origin in the background considering how many they could use and the nature of the film, but glad they included that mention that he might reincarnate. Love his plane too.
For me it was the kid and the mother that was the worst part of the movie
Fate was majorly disappointing. He only had 3 powers: duplication, light shards and seeing the future. And he just seemed to disappear for most of the fight scenes. Such a Dollar Store Fate, compared to the comics version.
The tie in comics say that he did reincarnate at least once I'm pretty sure.
Just my general thoughts and observations, also great video.
First, I appreciate you sidestepping the whole issue about Cyclone being recast. My opinion is I don't approve, but I don't approve in general of swapping characters. Create a new one, I'm fine this could have been the daughter of cyclone. I will point out too that it also sticks out a lot for fans because everyone else is so visually on point. Every other character in the movie looks like the spitting image of the comic book character, specifically the JSA edition.
Regarding Black Adams homeland, I was always under the impression that it was created because they were trying to avoid picking any specific country and offending fans in the middle east. For the longest time, Shazam and the Marvel family tied their Origins to Egypt.
Regarding Black Adam and his extended family, I liked the whole concept and I wasn't really happy that DC decided to flame it out in spectacular fashion. For those who don't know, throughout new 52 Black Adam is shown settling into a role as a hero and protector with a loving family. The Marvel family had a talking anthropomorphic tiger, so Black Adam wound up with a talking anthropomorphic crocodile. By the end of 52, it turns out the crocodile is a genetically engineered monster who murders his wife and adopted son. This sends Black Adam on a worldwide murder tour slaughtering an entire country and then honing in on a tropical island where all the evil super villains apparently set up shop.
I have yet to see the movie, but I'm intrigued by what I've seen in the trailers and heard so far, and I like that the rock is pushing for a Black Adam versus Superman, I know they're working on a second shazam movie so if that winds up building into an actual DC Universe franchise I will laugh because of Captain Marvel's storied history in real life as well as the fact that it was probably always the least serious of all DC Comics
The movie is fun. It's not high art, but it's fun. It's not a life changing or generational defining movie, but it's a decent way to spend 2 hours.
I agree about the race swapping. Cyclone is just another redhead Hollywood has turned black (a very strange trend) The weird thing about these raceswaps are that the JSA didn't lack for black characters, so why raceswap Cyclone and Hawkman? Why not use Jakeem Thunder or Mr Terrific, both probably more popular than Cyclone?
Hawkman is a favorite character of mine. I'd like to point out that the reincarnation aspect is central to the whole Hawkman concept. He could reincarnated looking like -- anybody, I guess. So who gives a *****, see what I mean?
I would see a video that compares the mcu namor to the comic namor.
I liked the movie. I am not familiar with the character that much, but his portrayal made me interested in it. Dwayne stole every scene.
Originally Black Adam was simply "Evil Captain Marvel" thats how it was for decades. Its only recently they changed him into an anti-heroic figure. He also used to favor Marvel Comics' Namor as he used to kind of sport the same hairdo and had pointed ears as well.
You should watch dc stargirl its a really good show involving the jsa
I thought the movie was great whenever the characters weren’t talking. The action scenes were so fun and well made but then the characters start talking and then everyone on set completely forgets how to make a movie.
I DESPISED that punk kid Black Adam had to keep saving from his own stupidity. You already had the other guy with the glasses for comic relief. The movie was fine otherwise, but Pierce Brosnan couldn't wait to get Dr. Fate's helmet off as fast as he humanly could. It's a solid C+ flick.
The movie was enjoyable --but not great IMHO. If they simplified the story-- I. E. having the rulers on Kahndaq desicrate his family's tomb/legacy causing the JSA to respond-- then you wouldn't need to shoe horn Intergang (canon fodder) or the numerouse side characters. The mom, kid, and The Rock are limited in acting ability -- and it's painful at times.
JSA was by far the best part-- from the cameo of the Atom to Hawkman's mansion-- you just wanted to see or know more about them.
Dr Fate was perfection and hopefully returns ✌️
Great video Chris!
I wanna see James Gunn make Black Adam v Santa. It would be sooooooo good!
Throughly enjoyed the movie.
I wanna see a JSA movie in its full glory now that I’ve gotten a taste of it from BA.
Without giving us any background on Hawkman, it made it hard be believe that he could keep taking beatings from Black Adam and getting up again.
Dceu black Adam might join the Shazam family
I really liked the movie. Hardly the Dark Knight, and there were definitely issues but i really appreciated just how comic booky it was. The novelty of seeing these heroes we've never seen on screen before just worked for me and i thought the action & certain plot elements were pretty fun. The human characters were lame but not unbearable and now that it's been a success I'd like to see them go even more comic booky with it, and i do believe that Dwayne Johnson does care about the character.
The origin he has in the movie is very similar to the one he had in New 52 if you haven't read that. In it his son was given the powers of Black Adam first
Interesting information about the New 52 Black Adam. I should check it out as well.
It’s a little different. New 52 Adam’s nephew was given the power. Adam stole the power and killed his nephew because he disagreed with about the conflict in Khandaq.
Visually i thought the movie was fun but overall I think the movie will be very forgettable especially if we never see any of these characters again on the big screen
They gave Cyclone Poison Ivy’s hair from Batman & Robin?
The sequel should show how he’s connected to the Shazam but I’m sure we won’t see that till year 2050 😂🤦🏽♂️
Please, my brother. Use a pop filter 😂
After watching both this and Black Panther 2, it's starting to feel like comic book movie writers are just pulling random characters from out of a hat
I feel like this movie should have been the 2nd Black Adam movie. I’d much rather have seen a movie set in the past and how a man, decent enough to win the favor of Shazam, fell to corruption and, being filled with sorrow, the wizard was forced to entombed him, vowing to pick a more wholesome character in the future. Y’know, like the actual origin story the wizard briefly mentioned in Shazam. 🤦🏽♂️ It would have ended in his sealing and as a post credit scene or something, you could have a shortened version of his release found in this movie. Then it would cut to black just before he would wreck the tomb raiders.
Then you already knew his hatred/flaws. You knew his power. You would get excited to see how will the heroes deal with such a menace.
That movie wouldn’t have to deal with introducing him as a villain but showing him to be an anti-hero but wait, he’s now a hero too now.