ENGINE ISSUE with my PARENTS On Board
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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2024
- I sat on this footage for over 6 months, and originally didn't intend to post it. I didn't want this to come out as click-bait Aviation video. But when I shared this story with friends they persuaded me to post it, as the incident I had will eventually happen to every pilot. I share this personal experience as perhaps a learning opportunity for other low-time pilots like myself. Thanks for watching, and I hope you enjoy!
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Know your plane, know your capabilities, when in doubt, aviate, navigate, communicate and land the plane safely!
100%!!
I had an 'engine trouble' situation that I sat on for a long time as well; It can be tough to post this sort of thing. I'm glad you did, and I'm glad that you're OK. This sort of video with the problem solving, does a lot to help other pilots.
Thank you, Glen! Glad you had a good outcome from your experience as well. I feel like sharing these events ultimately helps o the pilots to be better prepared for when they face a similar incident 🙏
no risks taken, good job
when in doubt, don’t do it, best piece of advice i was given in my flight school
Precisely! No need to take unnecessary risks. Thanks for watching, Alex!
when in doubt there is no doubt. 💙
Bruno, aviation videos can essentially be broken down into two categories...entertainment and important. Most are for entertainment, but this was most certainly important. "Hope is not a strategy' is a general saying, but one could argue it applies to making decisions while piloting an aircraft in a very specific way. Thanks for posting this, and of course thanks for everything you do! My guess is that beer tasted especially good that evening....
Thank you, Norm! 🙏
Great job! They didn't need to know until you told them.
Exactly 🙏 Thank you, Maurice!
Goosebumps but bravo you kept your calm and took a right timely decision, great job, great learning. God bless you. Calling it a day was the best. Fly safe.
Thank you, Wasif! 🙏
Excellent aeronautical decision making, Bruno. Thanks for sharing, and I’m glad everyone was safe!
Thank you, Aviv! 🙏
Don't second guess your decision. It was the right decision. Better to save the plane and your passengers, than to risk it all. Good job. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Rando!
Glad you and your family are safe. Thank you for sharing the story and doing so in a genuine, non-click-bait manner. Your joy of flying and superior story telling is all we need, and something I look forward to whenever you post a new video.
That means a lot, thank you so much for the kind words! 🙏 I take my videos very seriously and I always work hard to make them enjoyable and valuable, so it’s worth your time to watch it. Thank you for your support!
By far the best decision, I know it's easy to comment from an armchair and decisions like this are harder in the moment.
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you! 🙏
I have a Surefly on the same side as yours so I had a look at my wiring setup after seeing yours. My power line runs up and and then tie wrapped to a larger wiring bundle well above the oil filter. It seems like a cleaner setup and obviously less prone to the problem you ran into. Plus it leaves easier access the oil filter. Gary Vogt did it...he's pretty meticulous with keeping everything nice and organized. I'm happy to send a pic if you want to see it. Either way, you handled that situation perfectly IMO. Thx for posting.
If Gary did, then you’re guaranteed to have a perfect installation. Nevertheless, always good to check that power line before every flight. That’s what I’ve been doing since this happened.
Great decision, Bruno! That's how an aviator should behave. Security first, always! Um Abraço!
Obrigado, Felipe! 🙏
Great video and message Bruno. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, Chuck! 🙏
Thank you for sharing. Yes, these cable and wire spans from airframe to vibrating engine need slack and loop to keep them from vibrating themselves to failure. I SUGGEST YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THAT CABLE YOU SHOWED ON THE VIDEO. A spool of wire wound together with a tie wrap in the middle of a suspended wire IS A POTENTIAL FAILURE ACCELLERATOR. What you've got is all the extra weight of that 8 or 12 inches of extra wire bound together in the center of the cable run. That adds a fair amount of extra weight to all the vibration taking place in the center span of that wire. Does that make sense? Simply take that extra wire, and move that bundle of wire to the airframe, and tie wrap it to the airframe side. Now the wire vibrations will only be carrying the weight of the wire, and not ALL THE EXTRA WEIGHT of the wire bundle.
Of course, as you said in the video, allow enough slack in the cable run so that wire doesn't transfer force onto the connectors.
50 Years of flight experience talking here. Just saying. Happy flying! Continue to share your experiences! and, consider what I'm saying about where to put that extra wire... SC
Thank you so much for your comment, and I will definitely check that cable! Everything you said makes perfect sense, and I hope other SureFly users see this comment.
Great video and thanks for sharing! I just bought my first plane a few months ago and this is great advice... learn your plane and trust your instinct when something seems wrong.
Congrats on your new plane! Ownership immensely improves your skills and knowledge as a pilot. Fly safe and enjoy!
First, great, aeronautical decision-making. As you stated, in your video, you could have kept flying thinking, OK, one down, I have another one, so no big deal. But instead, you decided to troubleshoot quickly, and turn around. Second, I think the point of being an airplane owner, and knowing when something just is off is really important. I’m praying that I will be joining you and becoming an aircraft owner, and that’s one of the things that I’m actually looking forward to. One of the things that kind of scares me about renting aircraft is that if I hear something I don’t know if it’s normal or not.lastly, thanks for sharing, and inspiring. I love that you own your own, Airplane, and that you have a hanger. Those are really big deals in today’s market. Keep flying well, brother!
Thank you for the kind words, Russ! 🙏 I’m sure having your own plane and hangar is just a matter of time 😉 And that will immensely improve your flying!
Smart evaluation and decision-making. I applaud your judgement and successful outcome.
Thank you, Larry! 🙏
Great video, excellent decision making and execution! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Thank you! 🙏
Great tips and video Bruno. Thanks for posting.
Thank you, Flavio!
Great video Bruno, thanks for making it and sharing what really is a teaching moment for any pilot. When the RPMs dropped just that little bit I thought of the mags right away because we check them during the run-up and get that RPM drop. BUT, you mentioned feeling a vibration as well and, like you said, you fly a plane long enough, you know how it handles, you know how it feels and sounds, and this was definitely something out of the ordinary. Safety first! Nice meeting your parents and hope to see you next Friday at the Flying Eyes booth!
Thank you, Peter! I’m glad you enjoyed watching 🙏 I’ll see you Friday at SnF!
Great ADM man! Doesn’t matter who is or isn’t in the plane. Even alone if something goes wrong think about the wake you leave behind…
Thank you, Fred! Safety first, always 🙏
@@FlyWithBrunoalways!
Excellent decision!!! Great pilot!
Thank you, Brent! 🙏
Thanks for sharing your story! Enjoyed your thought process
Thank you! 🙏
Nice work. Glad you didn’t have to find an off airport landing site.
Thank you, Zachary! 🙏
So glad you posted this. Anyone that has watched your channel knows you are not posting for the dramatic effect. This is helpful to know that these things can and do happen to anyone. Keep up the great work! Love your channel.
Thank you so much, Steve! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
That's awesome Bruno, specially being what is the NYC air space. You were calm didn't panic or worry your parents.
Thank you!
Great airmanship, Bruno! Bravo👏🏽✌🏽
Thank you 🙏
Great decision. I had a spark plug issue on a night flight. Engine vibration was the first notification. I also notice high EGT on one cylinder. Did mag check and that confirmed the situation. I came back to airport and went directly to the faulty spark plug (combination of which EGT and which mag made it easy to pinpoint the spark plug). I tested it on my machine and it was sparking but also issue it a popping sound while firing. Replaced it and then all fine.
Thank you! 🙏
Great video and lesson - thank God you are all safe!
Thank you Stephanie! 🙏
Great work. =) I'm so happy it turned out well for you and your parents!
Thank you so much!
So glad you guys got back to the airport safely and safety saves the day!! Great video, great lessons great job Capitan BRUNO! Blue skies ✈️
Thank you, Joe! 🙏
Great job handling that! And glad you and your parents are safe.
Thank you! 🙏
Aviate - navigate - communicate. Well done
Thank you! 🙏
I would do the same thing. It was the best decision to do. It's nothing terrible, but to be shure of the fail, the best decision is to return safe. Well done dude!
Thank you, Claudio! Safety first, always 🙏
Excellent, excellent job. You maintained composure and held safety as your most important priority. This can be used as an instructional video for what to do when things go wrong. Great aeronautical decision making. 👏👏👏
Thank you so much, Carlos! 🙏
Sorry that interrupted your flight with your parents. I'm sure that was disappointing for all of you. Did you get to try again with them? This example of your good judgement is exactly why I would trust you completely. Great job!
Thank you, Mike! That means a lot 🙏 We unfortunately didn’t get to do it again while they were here, but they’ll be back this year and we’ll go for this much-anticipated flight :)
BZ! You just gained a subscriber, there is no substitute for good judgement and you sir did everything right! The best part of course is you and your Wonderful Parents walked away to fly another day.
Thank you so much, Danny! Appreciate the kind words and the support! 🙏
Nice vid! Thanks for sharing
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
You handled the situation really well Bruno. I'm a low time pilot myself and happy you had a good outcome.
Thanks, Mike! 🙏
Amazing descision Bruno. Doesnt mean you can do something that it is the safest option. Really learned from this. Muito Obrigado!!
Thank you for your comment, Gaby! Hope you enjoyed the video 🙏
well done!!! you did the right thing!! good ADM. I recently had a mag fail in run up as a student. I was curious how it would have been if it happened in flight. Again great job man
Thanks, man! It’s much more pronounced when you’re at cruise power.
Ótima decisão e btw, que pousaço Bruno, parabéns!
Obrigado! 🙏
As airworthiness engineer, I can only congratulate you. Troubleshooting is not always the final solution, a well maintained aircraft does not always avoid emergencies, reliability in general aviation is not as high as in air operators with bigger airplanes, make the safetiest decision as you said is the priority. It's worth it, to maintain airworthy the airplane and to have mind clear about the priorities as private pilot with your parents on board. Even they didn't feel there was any problem onboard! ❤❤
I agree 100%! Thank you for your valuable POV on this, it’s very important for others to read this!! Thank you, my friend 🙏
Great aeronautical decision. The first time I flew with my dad I had to return because the weather conditions were deteriorating, I got frustrated because I didn’t complete the flight the way I wanted, but we landed safely and that is the most important thing
Safety is always the most important thing! And I hope you got to fly your Dad another day :)
Great call Bruno. Honestly having just passed my PPL flying various PA28s at the flight school that all have steam gauges, I probably wouldn't even have noticed a less than 100 RPM drop as a serious fault (or I'd attribute it to something else like carb ice, wind change etc.) Good that you picked up the other signs like the vibrations
Thanks, appreciate the comment, and glad you enjoyed the video! Hopefully it serves as a reference to make your a safer pilot. Fly safe, buddy!
I'm glad you were able to safely return to the ground with your parents! I hope they got to enjoy that flight on another day! Important thing is, you all made it safely back home!
Thank you, Don! We weren’t able to fly after that but we’ll definitely fly again once they’re back in the USA for another visit 😌
Thanks for sharing...I once flew a CAP plane at night in the haze...alternator went on fritz I remembered the engine would keep going I looked at Garmin Pilot on my phone or tablet whatever at that time...this was before everyone had ForeFlight...landed fine and told my wife sorry I know you are tired but I landed at a different airport
What an awesome story! Thanks for sharing and for watching!
Thank you for sharing. My son and I recently purchased a Comanche and I’ll be sharing this with him.
Line the Comanche! Congrats on your plane, and thank you for watching 🙏
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thank you for watching, and I hope you enjoyed it! 🙏
Good one mate, l as a low time pilot have had similar situations believe you me you did the right thing by far.
Thanks, Scott! Flying is a never- ending learning curve 🙏
Nicely handled. I hear you've got about 600 hours. If this is your first significant event, you're doing well. Anecdotally, 250 hours is more typical for the first one. Keep on keeping the shiny side up
Thanks, man 🙏
Great story, very well done 👏 ✔️ 👍
Thank you! 🙏
Amazing!!!! Thank you for the bravery to share these things!!!
I would have called Pan-Pan on the way back in so that the others could get out of your way… like the saying “you can always go around”, I’m a firm believer that calling Pan or Mayday is not something to be afraid of… if you called Pan-Pan rough running engine, to the radar controller and local traffic, IF something BAD does happen, a significant part of your workload is taken away.. and the support system (radar) and fellow pilots kick in immediately … my two cents…
You’re absolutely right, and in retrospect I should’ve said I was returning for a precautionary landing due to an engine issue. Lesson learned for sure!
good call, thanks for sharing. unrelated: i saw this thumb nail and thought "oh this must be from before he decided to sell 84U", but then i quickly remembered that you bamboozled us all on april fools -.- lol glad everyone is safe.
Haha I got everyone with that joke! 😄 Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed the video! 🙏
Thank you, brother. Good Job pilot. It has inspired me.
Thank you, Corey! 🙏
Great ADM, Bruno!
Thank you Artur! 🙏
I’ve had several situations in my time. I had an engine issue due to stuck carb float, electrical failure at night requiring tower light signals to land. I lost a big chunk of fabric from tail of my plane in flight but worst experience was loss of prop spinner in flight and I declared emergency on that one. I had 4 scary issues across 20 years and two different planes but I handled each one and landed without incident. I had numerous other things happen not causing an abort but I was always cautious and flew within my boundaries. I’ll never forget what the examiner said when he signed me off on my private. He said, now you can go learn how to fly a plane. He was right as every hour you log, you learn something that makes you better.
I agree with your DPE and I always treat each flight as a learning experience. Training gets you safely on the ground 🙏
Bruno, excelente vídeo sobre a realidade que pode acontecer a qualquer de nós, pilotos de aeronaves leves, e seu processo de decisão. Obrigado pelo conteúdo leve e sensacional, não sensacionalista. 😅 Por favor continue nos inspirando!
Obrigado, Nilton! 🙏 Fico feliz que o conteúdo chega aí no BR! 🇧🇷
Thank you for the video.
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Good job, Bruno
Thank you!
That's wild (Glad you're ok) - I had a mag failure in September as well(my first in-flight issue as a 2 year pilot), but my vibrations were very violent. Felt like I was holding onto a .50 cal machine gun. Happened on climb out at about 3000ft msl and and 4-5 miles from airport. All of these things ran through my head, but I never thought it was a mag due to the violence of the shaking. I thought I hit a bird or something and the prop was causing all the vibrations. Was able to turn back and maintained altitude the entire time until I was sure I could make the field and then cut power to reduce vibrations, then made a quick landing, safely.
Wow! That sounds intense! Glad you made it safely, man. And hey, what a great plane you fly 😉
If you’re monitoring your EGT during flight, it will show an increase with a failed mag as well. Good work 👍
Very true, and thanks for pointing that out! In the heat of the moment that didn’t even cross my mind, tbh.
Legal demais Bruno. Sempre bom nos lembrarmos de sermos seguros! Abraços do Brasil!
Valeu Pedro! TMJ 🇧🇷🫡
You are the BEST Bruno, I follow you on Instagram also ❤ your folks look so sweet 🥰
Thank you so much for your support! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙏
Good headwork!
Thank you!
I earned my private pilot cert in August 2023 (actually diverted to KSMQ on my checkride) and I was taught throughout my training to always limit the number of external factors (gusty winds, low clouds, busy airspace, night flight) because they can add up against you and make flight unsafe. This is a very valuable experience and I commend you for sharing it with other pilots who can learn from this.
Is that a Grumman Tiger or an AA5 Traveler?
Thank you @raym984 ! And that’s absolutely right, a good flight can turn into a bad situation VERY quickly depending on the external factors. Thank you for your comment and for watching! 🙏
It’s a Grumman AA5A Cheetah!
Safety Always!!!🤙👍🙌
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Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching! Hope you enjoyed it 🙏
@@FlyWithBruno Always enjoy as a low pilot myself always trying to improve and learn from the community
nice work. good call.
Thank you! 🙏
@@FlyWithBruno I have a surefly as well.
Well done.
My father would have asked me 50k times why we turned back 🤣
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Ainda meteu um pousao no retorno!
Valeu mano! 🙏😄
Speaking as a former Alaskan backcounty charter pilot, I couldn't disagree more with the statement about returning to the field as "the last option on a pilot's priority list" and I suspect you'd disagree with yourself too if you think about it.
Indeed!
Good troubleshooting. Good decision! Did you check mags in flight? You’d think Surefly mag would be better🥴. Dave, still flying my 1947 bonanza
I waited until I was on the ground to do a mag check. At 2000ft I didn’t want to risk it
Your EGTs went up when your mag failed because one set of plugs stopped firing in each cylinder. I hope you downloaded that data and you’ll see when the egts rose is when your rpm went down
Yep, you’re exactly right. In the heat of the moment I wasn’t even looking at my EGTs, but they are a clear sign of a mag failure. Thanks for your comment and for watching!
Um instrutor me disse uma vez que conhecer os limites do avião e saber avaliar uma situação para uma tomada de decisão é o que faz vc ser um bom piloto mesmo com poucas horas.
Ele disse também que é melhor estar aqui embaixo querendo estar lá em cima, ao inves de, estar lá em cima querendo estar em solo.
Bons voos.
Obrigado pelo comentário, Guilherme! Meu instrutor me ensinou a mesma coisa. Segurança acima de tudo, sempre! Bons ventos, comando 🫡
Personally, I would be searching for the fellow that installed that wire, and your mechanic should have noticed that during every oil change or at least during the annual. Not cool. Good reason to have a look at the rest of the wire bundles and see how they're tied off.
Very true. Fortunately not other wires are loose and I haven’t had an issue since (2 yrs) 🙏
OMG OMG God blessed you and your precious family 🙏🏼🙋🏻🙏🏼 I'm
sure It will be great example for others pilots. Special Thanks to put legende in portuguese to our public in my channel will love this 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 How lush is this moment for me my dearest pilot 💕👁️👁️ and 👂🏼💞🤜🏼👏🏼🤛🏼😊🤗🤗
Thank you so much and glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for sharing.
You didn’t test the mags while in the air, for fear of engine turning off, or?
I wasn’t fully aware of the mag issue at that point. But doing a mag check and watching that engine momentarily die would’ve been a nerve-racking experience for my passengers. I decided to land and do the mag check on the ground
@@FlyWithBruno That was the right decision, as you were at low altitude. If you had been at 8k, then a mag check to troubleshoot ; )
@@av8en Agreed! And a lesson learned too :)
How old was the Surefly?
About 2.5 years
Guess who checked their Surefly power cable for stain after seeing this video …….
I check it on every pre-flight ever since!
What would have happened if you did a mag check in the air? Would that have helped or hurt your situation?
It would’ve likely helped to diagnose the issue, but isolating the problematic mag would make the engine stumble pretty bad and that would’ve shaken my passengers (and myself too, I won’t lie). I chose to land and do it on the ground instead.
Could have been worse, could have been locked in
😂😂😂 if you know, you know….
Love this video, I just subscribed to your channel on recommendation from (PilotFun101). I hope to meet you at the flyin at orange county Airport
Thanks Anthony! Look forward to seeing you there!