This Fight IS World Trigger - Osamu vs Kazama Fight Analysis
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- Long time, no talk. This video, I'll be analyzing a fight from World Trigger Season 1 Episode 18 and the significance this has on Osamu's development. Please enjoy and share your thoughts!
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Thank you all so much for watching the video. This subject was so near and dear to my heart that I wanted to make the editing extra special. What did you guys think of the edits I did in 3:47 and 6:40? How did they make you feel? Did they help represent whats good about the series? Share your thoughts below!
the edits, I feel are pretty good, reminiscent of a memory.
@@whothis5810agreed
I would pay 80$ to play a World Trigger game. Like I NEED to make my own character and outsmart opponents.
Dude I'd pay 100$ for a game
There actually is an indie project with a discord server and regular playerbase. It's called "Globe Gear Fusion."
literally the best way to monetize this anime. Imagine a massive MMO with away missions
You want me to start making this game?
I think it will take decades to make a game like that, we there must be the ability to move and tilt all limbs and torso to dodge or attack (Spider field usage of Yuma and Kitora), hitboxes are specifically only in the player's body, debris must have effects to players' movement due to collision (Yuma vs Oji), wide rage of customization on the Range/Damage/Firerate for guns to create Assault Rifles(Inukai), Revolvers(Yuba), Shotguns(Suwa), etc. And the movement of Triggers like Viper (Nasu) and Mantis (Kageura) through the use of the mind.
If anything, a game like Sword Art Online needs to first be made to serve as a starting point or a kind of baseplate for this type of game. A game where you can control your whole body's movement whilst your mind is also thinking inside the game.
Then we can get a World Trigger game, you control your whole body, your mind controls the movement, shooting pathing, mantis pathing, shield placement (important since large shields trade durability for size, and you can be hit in the feet if you just shield your torso and legs, like Kageura during the mall fight), etc.
"Nah, I'd lose 24 times and draw once" - Osamu Mikumo
Jokes aside this fight also brings up another key point of world trigger - Osamu has to prove HIMSELF capable. It's not just winning as a team that matters. Border as an organization would be perfectly willing to put Chika and Kuga on a team without Osamu, and that creates great low level individual stakes.
Absolutely
Ya, I loved that fact when I noticed it, chika yuma and hyuse are all capable of going to the away mission by themselves so the while rank wars arc was Osamu proving to everyone that he is just as capable.
I love how this show handles power ups and balancing, I freaking love this power system to the point I want to be a border agent
This fight set the tone of what type of fighter Mikumo would be. Using his quick wits and deception to make up for his low Trion and lack of physical talent. I love how this show emphasizes what makes different Border Agents special. Some of my favorite moments come from who other characters refer to as the 'Spear Guy'(Seriously). No lie, even the side characters are legendary. Iykyk.😂
facts
10/10, 1000% agree, get this guy an award!!! In all honesty, if Osamu had won that fight, it would have been a massive outlier. Kazama is one of Border's best agents, taking part in ***censored for spoilers***. He's good at what he does, and isn't dumb tactically either. He even said after the fight that he was cocky in going for the attack he did that ended the fight in a draw instead of the going for an strategy that would have guaranteed his victory. Osamu is new to his B-rank status and barely has experience with his shield mode, thruster, or asteroid. He's used those only once before this against a Bander; with success, but no real skill either.
The only reason he got the drop on Kazama was those 24 losses showing no real special skills. Kazama didn't overestimate Osamu's power, but he wasn't ready for Osamu to change the battle field into a minefield. He then went with the strategy that had already worked 24 times: blitz him. Osamu, intentionally or not, used that to execute his trap, and give himself the best chance for a win. Kazama was just fast and experienced enough to counter, which Osamu hadn't prepared for due to a lack of experience. This is the first time we see him train against a human opponent, who generally are smarter than your average Neighbor infantry.
All in all, Osamu got the best outcome he reasonably could have given the gap in power, skill, and experience. He capitalized on his ability to know his limits, use his environment, the underestimation of his skill in strategy, and have enough of an understanding of his new gear to make a strategy. Although he didn't win, it was still a stunning victory.
holy shit you're right. When you peel it back, this fight just gets better and better
When I re-read what you said about Osamu turning his losses into a trap, my mind went to Yuma vs Midorikawa. Yuma lost 2 rounds first to make Midorikawa cocky and his ego high, then proceeds to knock him down 8 times.
10:55 I swear everytime I see this scene I feel like I'd dehydrate from tears. Man... the price of being of powerless, the kindness of other people (as pointed out by kitora) it truly wrecks you when you couldnt repay the favour when it matters
Exactly! I also enjoy how much it emphasizes how grit alone won’t save you. It’s my favorite case of “a world that accommodates but doesn’t favor the protagonist”. Counting by anime episodes, it’s around 15-or-so eps where they keep making us see Osamu get beat up despite having the same motivations as most (if not all) of shonen anime protagonists. In doing so, it effectively rewired a lot of the viewers (that stayed) point of view because, let’s face it, we’re used to the formula that when the MC is beat up that means they will randomly get a power up. That way, during that time when Afto rolls around the first time it actually managed to make me think “what is he going to do now” instead of “plot armor will save him”, and how the rules of the triggers is so specific you expect to see more of every character’s creative thinking than gigantic flashy explosions
Man this brought back some great memories. The level of thoroughness Ashihara has put into these characters and situations is what makes this series stand alone in its own playing field especially when looking at Mikumo as an MC. Great video
Nothing else like it, man. Thanks a lot.
btw, what did you think of my edit on 6:40?
@@KaiserShounenI really liked it. First time In a while I’ve seen a flashback given the context be edited in like that. Definitely a technique you can hold onto for sure and use in the future where you feel would be great 👍🏾
@@YozakuraSensei 🙏 Much love, Sensei
literally you are the reason I watched the entire show. Osamu the goat, keep up the work bro
Thanks so much man. Just tryna spread the gospel. How are you liking the show?
@@KaiserShounen finished it I loved season 3 so much I’m excited to see how osamu will fight later on against like black triggers or if he evolves his 1v1 ability
Speaking facts here, Osamu the best
World Trigger is really a Shonen Military Anime where intel, tactics, experience, individual abilities and teamwork are needed to win their battles and grow stronger and more experienced.
Heck they even incorporate Chess with the one vs one combat fights with agents having individual Elo.
There's nothing else like it
@@KaiserShounen Also, for Osamu, if he had a side effect, it would probably be like an increase to his analysis. Like, he would immediately think to use Asteroid Scatter after his 1st loss. You might think that its a big increase, but its not because he is already smart and he was not using his brain throughout the 24 losses, but if he did with the info he had, he would have gone for what he did. A big increase to his analysis would be if he uses Asteroid Scatter when he saw Kazama use chameleon.
To be honest, I've watched World Trigger like two month ago, but since I've discovered it, I just loved to watch each episode, the story is interesting, the power system is cool, the characters are incredible, and the fights so smart !
Osamu my goat
And the best part of it imo is that it's not like you have one side using their wits against the other side who are just faster and stronger. Most characters on both sides of a fight have big brain moments and don't do things for no reason.
Even Suwa, who seems like a meathead jock, has a moment where he leaves himself open to a sniper shot that will go through a normal shield, but focus shields his face because he knows who the sniper is and knows they both can go for a head shot and will try it, making that a pretty safe play to bait them into revealing their position.
@@sethb3090 yeah, and in both sides, each characters have their own strength and Weaknesses instead of just being absolute powerhouses even stronger than the previous teams
World trigger is the first anine who got me screaming in a middle of a fight ☠️
definition of work smarter not harder and battle iq is always gonna be your side
World Trigger definitely is something. Watching this reminds me how impressed I was with its story and characters. I'll try to get to it after I'm done with an anime or two first. As is, the fight (as you described) is definitely a character defining moment for Osamu and IIRC he uses a similar move during the later team matches or during the invasion.
Great video again Kaiser, dissecting this occasion and making people understand the depth the show has, that it was not just "the time the weak guy tied on a 1v1" but when Osamu showed his resolve, creativity and his compromise with Tamakoma.
Also, very good job narrating, it was on point with how the show makes you feel
Thanks. What other moments in the show would you like for me to touch upon in this style?
@KaiserShounen maybe tamakimas first loss?
I've watched and read a lot of shounen and not many shoujo/adult/others but the only one that made it into my top 5 list is world trigger. I hate tropes where the MCs win because they "fight for their loved ones" / "have something to fight for" or have ridiculous power-ups after a short training arc or acquiring some new equipment. World trigger doesn't do that. They even state that while stronger motivation MIGHT give someone an edge if the fighters/teams are evenly matched, it won't determine a fight. Because implying otherwise would mean that the other person just didn't want to win hard enough / didn't do everything in their power to win. Making osamu the main, weak character was also genius because it shows that YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE OP to be able to WIN AS A TEAM. Even weaker (i.e. lower magic/power and combat level) characters can have an important role in a fight and contribute to the team's win. That is such a great message.
Side note: I also love how real the world feels thanks to all the great, fleshed-out side characters. Usually side characters only have 1-2 defining traits and you only ever see their relationship with the MC and their immediate best friend and maaaaybe their team. But in world trigger, side characters have a history, layered character traits, relationships with multiple people and groups within border, skill sets that can evolve, as well as character development (sometimes). The entire first arc of the 2nd season was carried only by side characters and the story didn't suffer at all because of it (quite the opposite in fact). That is so awesome!
(Are you planing on making a video on how to write a great cast by any chance? 😉 )
Not really because theres already a lot of videos on that subject anyways and Im not sure what I would add to the conversation. But thanks for enjoying the video.
Another interesting video would be about how WT rewards people that pay attention, giving them some answers beforehand.
The first example is (Jin + Arashiyama squad) vs 8-9 Border Agents. The movement that decided the battle in Arashiyama side was hinted (in its usage) through the whole ep 14-15-16 (not that it was going to decide a victor, but that the "movement" was always at their disposal).
BUT there was a missing piece and it was WHO had it: the answer was scattered from ep 3 when Arashiyama squad first appeared and that "movement" was properly called by name (and never again) by its user, and even some other little , lets say, cameos.
The moment Shiori starts explaining and calling it by name (ep 14) the audience who paid attention immediately remembers ep 4 and/or the other cameos where intentionally it didn't showed its properties, the same as sniper weapons were all the same in looks and utility up until the sniper weapons are introduced properly (around ep 18).
I recall reading this manga. Thank you for remind me of this gem. 👍
No problem. Feel free to share it around
Another good point about this fight is that the simulator is not a one and done gimmick, the nature of the room to refill trion was later used again to stall a black trigger invader and learn how his trigger worked.
even world triggers world is also practical, instead of trying to catch up to the neighbors with technology since they are far behind them instead go for a practical approach by making mass produced triggers that are easy to use by the agents, making the training simulation rooms, and inventing the rank wars for the agents to train wit each other in a competition that pushes them farther then just fighting off robots or humanoid neighbors that rarely show up.
Another FATAL FLAW for some people describing or just talking about Osamu's brains is calling him "an strategic genius" ..which makes casual viewer that start the series throwing Osamu's expectations as let's say Lelouch from Code Geass or any other character that is at their core "and OP character with another skin" replacing physical strength with brains (but having al the other cliche like easy victories, near zero improvement in her power level, and looking "cool" during the battles).
If someone want to copy this statement from me, be free to do so:
Osamu has VERY LOW POWER and EFFICIENCY in a 1-1 and will not improve. The room for improvement comes from this show focusing in team battles.
Osamu is a little above average when it comes to strategy so he tries to capitalize on that. Which in the grand scheme of thing can be labeled as "a hard road but a feasible one"
Remember all of those statements are in the context of these 3 seasons. Since they have a time limit to reach their goal as a team.
Very true
Exactly... Some people tend to overestimate his tactical skill but he is just above average there too. There are those who match and surpass him. His saving grace is that he does have a string team that can execute whatever he comes up with and the fact that people tend to underestimate how out of the box he thinks like in the final B-Rank fight with Ninomiya where he has switched Asteroid for Hound and kept shooting Hound like Asteroid all through the match only to switch it up at the last minute.
@@grandmasterace4785 the best part is that baiting people into thinking the wrong Shoot bullet is not his ORIGINAL idea (Mizukami from Ikoma's squad extensively use the trick in previous battle), its just that no one expect him to have a different trigger. Even Hyuse did that just a few minutes earlier, but no one expect Osamu to also switch trigger.
I came on a recommendation from Elrek. I stayed for the editing and commentary. I can't wait to see how this channel grows.
Appreciate it man. Please share when you can
@@KaiserShounen Of course. I already shared with my friends.
Like i said in the live chat, I already have World Trigger for my anime to watch in the future. Your video analysis on the series really convinced me to give the show a try.
Glad I could help man. Watch it when you can and let me know how you liked it.
I have been waitng for this video to drop for so long
I actually recently seen your 1st video of World Trigger (again because i love World Trigger).
I'd also nominate the negotiation for Hyuse as one of the show's great scenes. Idk if you'll cover it beciase spoilers, but it's a great one.
excellent scene
Using the Battle network 3 "Farewell" on top of that scene is cheating. My feels, my heart... It hurts, man.
Finally, someone who see's the vision. Glad you liked it, dude.
Another great video. So glad you're bringing more attention this great anime.
More!!! Please more of this series! I can’t wait for you to discuss the battle sim!
Ik all the editing tricks were probably done for copyright but I really liked how it looked.
Great video hope you continue world trigger content its such a hidden gem
Happy to see it get more love.
Thanks a lot dude. And yeah it was done to avoid the copyright stuff but I really wanted that scene to pop just to show people how much I love this show. Glad that came through, hope you stick around.
@@KaiserShounen fully plan on it
YESSS, IVE BEEN PRAYING FOR WORLD TRIGGERS SUCCESS, THE BEST SHOUNEN ANIME IS WORLD TRIGGER!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if Osamu will have to come with anything else like Slow Buckshot. We see a lot of unique Triggers, so it seems natural for someone as tactical as him come up with something tricky
not a bad idea.
Im imagining him using Spider as a tripwire into Chika's Meteor. Sound abaolutely evil but hilarious watching an area evaporizes from tripping
I'll add this show to the list sir
Osama later uses this same tactic with the slight modication by pre planting bullets while outnumbered in a rank battle.
I shared this, more people need to know about World Trigger!!!
A Latin American speaker here. Our dub is also bad. to the point some weapons explanations (your know the core and distinctive factor in world triggers mechanics) has wrong dialogue:
Like "this fighter loses balance cause she doesn't a the leg arm" when the lose of balance comes from her combat style REQUIRES both arms in one weapon/sword/kogetsu.
Or all the female operators sounding the same as "happy/automatic" (which is DETRIMENTAL for 2-3 particular ones, like Hana from Team Katori) whereas any WT watcher knows that the commentator seat is ANOTHER stage for character exploration and portrayal to set the characters apart from each other or showing new aspect of an already introduced characters.
And some minor instances where a character having a "new" weapon in battle comes a the generic shonen surprise factor....when in reality the operator explictly said she is adding that weapon just in case. You know, because in world trigger planning matters---> it was equipped for 2 characters and only 1 ended up using it due to her environment.
Ah, thats unfortunate
I first watched it when it originally aired and it's been awesome ever since
境界触发者 一生推🎉🎉
I absolutely love World Trigger. Have since early S1 release
The only well written power systems are in:
1. HunterxHunter , but it has complicated itself lately, even with the new chart.
2. Mahouka, but it is more on the inside than outside, hence they look as regular color beams for the not seasoned watcher and also eclipsed by the fact....the MC is OP.
3.World Trigger, which has neither of those weaknesses.
Forgot to comment for the algorithm
Fingers crossed that'll reach a wider audience soon. Maybe it just needs to cook like the other WT videos did?
Hope so man
Bro reached out to me, so I had to watch. Let's see if this one is good too.
Please, share you thoughts
CZcams notifications seem to have started to suck. I didn't receive any until you commented on my previous comment. The only channels that seem to give notifications are news channels and big channels. They also seem to take up the subscribe tab. Smaller channels are burried.
Thanks a lot. Views on this video compared to the other ones was... strange. I don't know why when even my less stellar videos get about 1k views within the first couple of days. Thanks for the info and please share the video around if you haven't.
Is there will be more world trigger videos in the future?
100%
@@KaiserShounen that what i am taking about baby yoooooo yeah
The dub for world trigger is super charming
Are you gonna make a video on the last rank wars match? that be pretty cool
hearing spikes voice from my little pony coming from kuga's mouth is the main reason why I don't watch the dub, not because its bad but it feels so off to me.
idk to me his voice somewhat fits. The only part that they don't get right was his cold serious tones.
@@KaiserShounen I just cant stop hearing spike, its the exact same voice the actor used for my little pony, it would be like if timmy turner from fairly odd parents had ben 10's voice, I usually give dub voices a pass along as it fits with the character archtype but my mind has already assigned spikes voice as a little kid, even more so then what yuma is, its probably because I heard spike from my little pony first before yuma dub voice.
4:36 black trigger also is theiteral life
Oh you proceed to explain it....
hey Kaizer are you using a sountrack from FE Awaikening?
yes
For some reason, I feel like the show is foreshadowing Yuma's Death. Then, maybe Osamu gains a black trigger at the end, however it is not an offensive one, but a supportive one that would fit his style of on-field support whose effects linger even if taken off-field.
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I uhhh...actually thought the dub was pretty nice personally.
its fine if you like it, i just personally felt ut was sub par. To me, very few of the actors outside of the main cast felt like they were trying or were properly casted
@@KaiserShounen I disagree but to each their own, I guess. I feel like more fit than they don't. At least I feel like it's quality was better in seasons 2 and 3. Maybe that's just me. I'm sorry I'm not trying to say your wrong just I don't see it. But I guess at the end of the day we both love the show, regardless of how we watch and/or read it. And that's what really matters right?
whats the song at 0:26?
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@@KaiserShounen cool thanks
Man... WT Dub is sh*t.
Great video. I hope you will one day give an analysis of Osamu fighting practically everyone in Border in a bid to find an answer when he was stuck. That episode is one of my favorites thematically.
To each their own. I thought the dub was fine
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Honestly, the WT anime is kinda shit in general. I mean, have you seen those fucking ocs from that filler arc, and this is ignoring the constant png sliding and pacing thats worse than one piece's anime pre-wano
Edit: Spelling
Season 2 and 3 were better paced tho
Yes, season 1 was pretty bad animation and pace wise but thats the fault of toei. It was airing weekly and you see similar issues on One Piece at that time.
Its still one of my guilty pleasures and season 2 and 3 were absolutely deserved bangers which I never could have thought of.
@@Titanxzero1💯
That a good point, didn't quite think of it like that before. I feel it all adds to the inherit collaborative design of World Triggers power system, and how earth specifically uses it. Unlike other shonen were everyone is a special snow flake, with their own unique powers, world trigger mostly opts for mass production and adoption. Where the uniqueness comes not from the triggers themselves, but the combinations, tactics and strategies employed. Add this to the group combat, and you have a system that rewards collaboration and tactical thinking, rather then individual raw power.
And this is often juxtaposed with neighborhood enemies who take the opposite approach, utilizing a handful of unique individuals, supported by mass autonomous infantry.