Cormak 4 x 6 Bandsaw - Vertical Table Build
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- I wanted to replace the flimsy vertical bandsaw table that came with my unit when new, with something much more robust and that can be very quickly set up/broken down.
As usual, a bit over engineered but really happy with the end result, just using what I have laying around.
One of the best designs I have ever seen !
Hi Ian, thanks very much for the comment and feedback, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Thanks for the video Jon. Good little project. I see the welding is comming along. Keep safe and stay well.
Hi Colin, thanks for the comment. It's getting better each time, I am trying more and more complicated structures but still firmly in kindergarten at the moment with a lot to learn lol. Cheers, Jon
Great job, I like that setup.
Hi Kentucky Trapper, thanks for the comment and feedback, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Nice one Jon, that will be very useful ! 👍🏻
Hi Tony, thanks for the comment and feedback. It most certainly will, got its first use today, very pleased with it. Cheers, Jon
Same saw as I have John, nice simple idea I like that, I’ll be making one for mine at some point.
Regards Al.
Hi Al, thanks for the comment, yep, used it today and it's spot on, rigid as can be, happy with it, works a treat. Cheers, Jon
Nicely done 👍👍👍👍
Hi Steve, thanks for the comment and feedback, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
I see what you mean Jon. That is great. Very stable. Will have to see what the bandsaw is like when i go for it. It is sat in a dark corner of the garage, so i hope it's all there. I don't even know what make it is.
Steve.
Well Done Jon, another useful tool added to your workshop. You sure have a big front drive, when you were grinding the steel. Well away from prying eyes. Regards from Australia.
Hi Dave, thanks for the comment and feedback. Yep, very useful, gave it a test today and it's spot on, solid as a rock. Yes, we are incredibly lucky to live where we do, totally isolated apart from sheep (the 4 legged kind), much more preferable to living in suburbia with all the 2 legged ones! It has some drawbacks like 30 mile round trip to the nearest supermarket but on balance we wouldn't be anywhere else. Cheers, Jon
Hello Jon,
As George Formby would have said "Turned Out Nice Again"... Good work and does look really sturdy also with the ability fit and remove quickly I am sure it will be used a lot... See you next time.
Take care.
Paul,,
Hi Paul, thanks for the comment. Lol, let's not forget good ole George was also famous for saying "When I look back on some of the films I've done in the past it makes me want to cringe. I'm afraid the days of being a clown are gone"! Lol. Happy with the new bandsaw attachment, very sturdy indeed. Cheers, Jon
An excellent mod to the machine, much more sturdy. Well designed and manufactured Jon👍
Atb Carl
Hi Carl, thanks for the comment and feedback, much appreciated mate. Cheers, Jon
Nice job Jon, welding skills really coming on, nice use of scrap around the shop 👍
Hi Terry, thanks for the comment. Ha Haa, video must hide a multitude of sins lol, my welding is improving but still a hell of a lot to learn. Cheers, Jon
i have some pretty good luck with these chineese inverters you can buy online for about 80 euro , bit hard to set up the menu but theres plenty of info on how to do that on forums
only downside is that you need to dig intoo the machines electronics
(the automated x and y axis run on one phase and the motor on 3 phase you allso need to run the on / off / change of rotation , and emergency stop through the inverter )
nice thing about these inverters (if you have the right one) is that you can use a resistor for an engine brake and have the mill stop on a dime and you have controll over rpm's on the fly using a potmeter or the controll on the inverter , great for machine /rigid tapping
about the table itself you can use the cut piece under the center hole and make a hat shaped plastic plug with a verry narrow cut from the blade , so you can cut tiny pieces without having them disapear intoo the bowels of the machine
seen another one on youtube that actually made a padded seat to fit over the clamp , since youre quite a bit away from the blade when standing in front of the machine and the table is kindof low when standing , straddling the machine makes working on it eazier
Hi Watahyahknow, I think the inverters you refer to are what we call VFD's here (Variable Frequency Drives), I recently fitted one to the surface grinder (are we talking about the same thing)? Your other two mods are totally spot on, watch this space, I will tackle the centre bung first but may also look into the seat idea...... Love it. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Jon
Brilliant fabrication work Jon. So simple when you know how, love the well thought out two second round. My bandsaw wants one now lol. Tony
Hi Tony, thanks for the comment, hope you're well mate. Lol, I really wish I knew how (fabrication), still at base zero on that one, with everything to learn. My welding is improving slightly each time but a long way to go before I move out of the 'entertainment' category into the 'educational' one...... Lol. Cheers, Jon
@@jonsworkshop Wait till you see the welding clip in my next video lol you've got nothing to worry about.
Good design Jon, much better than the original.
Hi Dean, thanks for the comment and feedback, it certainly couldn't get much worse than the original, I don't know why they bothered with it! Cheers, Jon
Good job Jon. I did see a similar design using the vice jaws for support a while back, but only the one time. It's a good idea.
I've got a small but strong plate mounted to the guide head (the alternative you mentioned) and it works well for most freehand jobs I do on this. It's easy to remove if necessary (rare). The restriction with all these designs is the width between the blade and the arm, and there's no way around that. As you demonstrated, the original plate is total rubbish to use and fit - I wonder why they even bothered. Good video. Cheers Rob
Hi Rob, thanks for the comment and feedback. Yes, I think I may have seen the same video in the past sometime, I think that's where the inspiration came from. The extra foot I added is the icing on the cake I think, unbelievably sturdy, far more so than I imagined or hoped for with my original thoughts. Tried it out today, it's bang on. Just needs a small mod to put a closer fitting bush round the blade, there is a big counterbore on the back of the plate so I will make up a Delrin or nylon bush to go in I think to allow cutting of really small stuff. Cheers, Jon
Hi Jon, Excellent idea and design, if you ever need to cut small or narrow pieces you'll need to reduce the clearance around the blade to stop drag through, don't ask how I know. Cheers.
Hi Paul, thanks for the comment and feedback. Tried it today and it's bang on. Can see your very good point and been thinking about it, there is a recess bore on the back of the plate round the centre hole, I will make a nylon / Delrin plug to go in there that can be clamped in from the underneath. Cheers, Jon
Hello Jon. That was excellent, I really like the design. Takes seconds in and out but really sturdy. Brilliant stuff. Still stuck in quarantine in Malaysia so your video was even more welcome than usual.
Forgot to say.. Loved the funny Mr Crispin esque start to the video!
Hi Carl, thanks for the comment. Glad you enjoyed it, and hope the quarantine isn't too arduous mate. Lol, it's a good job I didn't include the outtake when I retrieved the camera from that stunt, as I was busy telling myself I had really lost it this time there would have been more bleeps than words I think. Cheers, Jon
@@jonsworkshop Hi Jon. The stunt was really funny, it made me laugh which was something I really needed. And the make was very interesting. It just so happens I have some 25mm square box and a piece of plate. My band saw is smaller though. I sold my really big sip bandsaw. I can adapt your idea easily though. Hope you are well and look forward to the next film.
Very good simple design, the table cleaned up nice.
Just needs a fence and a gusset between the main horizontal and vertical box section.
Hi Fred, thanks for the comment. Agreed on the fence, I will look into this for a future mod. Gusset really not needed due to the foot and the 3mm wall section of the box, it is absolutely solid. I actually considered a small gusset, more as a handle fairly close to the C of G for lifting in and out. Cheers, Jon
Nice build Jon,I can see a lot of time saving/ease with this addition .With travel restrictions getting better I can finally pick up my own similar machine soon.Regarding the noises on the mill(motor?) ...I checked axial end play on quill ,it is still appr 0.08 mm which I used as ,,preload,,number.I lifted up the gearbox top lid and drained oil.Had a good peak and feel around...nothing obvious worse on the gears or bearing play.
Sound of mill stayed the same so far.I only think highest speed is a bit louder but that could be normal.I did temperature checks regularly and never spotted any significant rise.To be honest I always thought it was drawbar rattle but that might be my inexperience with mills!
I am picking up a 5 kW 380v alternator in a few weeks and will use my 10 HP Kubota to drive it...I let you know if a ,,normal,,380 v makes the mill less noisy.
Hi Robert, thanks for the comment. Yes, it's a weird noise. After I had the realisation that the converter was too big for the 750W surface grinder, it stands to reason that as the mill motor is only 1.1kw it is probably right on the bottom end of the converters range. If I start the spindle in any gear, I get the same 'rattle' from the motor, but as soon as I put it under constant load (even by hand just gently gripping my test bar), the noise goes away. If I use any sort of interrupted cut (fly cutter/face mill) it is obviously dancing in and out of these two states which I think amplifies the effect (and noise). I am keen to see how your experiment goes, please let me know. Cheers, Jon
I have no idea why they sell those ridiculously flimsy pieces of crap tables with the new bandsaws. Your design is simple and elegant and infinitely better. The adjustable foot is clever. I hope you don't mind but I am going to copy your design and build one just like it for my bandsaw. Cheers
Hi Zebby, thanks for the comment and feedback, much appreciated. Copy away😁. Cheers, Jon
Nice work as usual. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week :)
Hi Homemade, thanks for the view, comment, feedback and share, much appreciated. Cheers Jon
Neat design and build Jon, really nice build. I’m thinking of getting a similar unit, (maybe one of the Machine Mart ones) so it’s interesting to see how you have modded your bandsaw.
Hi Dave, thanks for the comment. This has proven to be a fantastic modification, would really recommend it for any bandsaw. Cheers, Jon
I have the round column milling machine and it has the same clatter noise I changed from single phase 240v to 3 phase VFD and the noise is still present I believe the noise is caused by the spindle spline male being a sloppy fit into the female spline hole from the factory I have read somewhere that center punch boring is a cheap fix but not got into it on mine yet 🤔
Buring not boring
Hi, thanks for the comment. I will be having a go at the power source soon so will post if I see any improvement. Spline and gear backlash is probably all contributing. Cheers, Jon
Having just Acquired a 4x6, I’m looking up mods, I’m sure I can find a big plate in me shed somewhere, looking back Jon, would you have preferred Orange paint.
Hi jon
Do you have channel stickers. If yes let’s trade
Hi Kimber, yes I do, drop me an email at Jons.workshop@aol.com with your details and I will send you some out. Cheers, Jon
I’m hoping to get that saw soon. And an looking at all the up grades people are doing.
I like what your doing and I am anxious to see your other upgrades.
kimberzelik@youtube
Hi Kimberzelik, thanks for the comment and feedback. I must visit your channel, sub and watch your content when I get some time. Good luck with the saw purchase. Cheers, Jon