Went to a independent dealer to buy a model Y. Negotiated for hours to get to an Out the Door price to 27k so i could qualify for the used EV tax credit. They got the paperwork ready and i was about to sign but realized they added 4k to the price trying to basically colled the EV tax for themselves. Dealer told me the OTD price was with the EV credit. So i ended up walking away and they got mad saying i wasted their time when in reality they were trying to screw me over.
@@markholubetz Probably to try and force dealers to lower prices because they're losing so much money, the big three cant live off of fleet purchases forever!
I’m not broke. I have several thousand of free income every month. I *will not* spend it on a car. The market is fully set up to screw customers over. The vehicles are overpriced and what they produce is unreliable. Dealerships want to mark up the price over MSRP. Insurance companies are hiking insurance rates massively. Car repair shops lie to you and do half assed jobs. Why would I spend my good money on that sh*t show? I won’t. I’ll run my 7 year old car into the ground and spend my money having fun, not on cars. I’m done. I’m out. F*** the industry.
I'm with you. I bought a new 2020 Toyota Tundra and paid 46k. In 2022 Toyota did a complete remake and now the same truck that is less reliable with a smaller turbo charged engine is 73k. This much of an increase in two years is insane.
That White Shelby Truck is more than what I paid for my 3 bedroom 2 bathroom 1,550 square feet condo in a nice & safe downtown area of a beautiful Chicago suburb 😂
In Arizona, I am currently seeing 10k off of MSRP for a Sierra 1500 Elevation, 4wd, crew cab, but this is still not enough. OTD is still 56-58k. For this same vehicle 4 years ago, it was low 40s. The car market still has a long way to go down before they are affordable again.
Buyers are not broke--manufacturers have simply run pick up prices to the point where 70% of their previous customer base can no longer financially qualify to buy them
@@icosthop9998 I had to beg my boss at the time to let me do my oil change at our shop because I just didn't have the money to take it to a shop and my house has terrible space for working on cars
My local dealer has a new 2023 F150 STX extended cab with 2.7 ecoboost. I talked to them yesterday and they said sticker was $50k and I told them I’d do $43k and they said they won’t go any lower then $49k so I walked. Probably why they still have that 2023 and multiple others almost halfway through 2024.
Passed by the local Ram Chrysler Jeep dealer today here… lot is absolutely jam packed with new inventory. Must be costing a fortune to keep that metal sitting there.
I absolutely 100% fully agree ,many will go bankrupt sitting on so much inventory, their floor plan cost are becoming more problematic, and there is just nowhere near enough qualified buyers that can actually afford them...good luck
i ordered a Ford Ranger (Germany) in early January. a few days ago i got a Building Date and a VIN. It is going to be built on 23rd of May in South Africa, and delivery in Germany will be somwhere between August and October. Ford Pickups are half a year from Order to Built Date in the plant, and another 3-5 month for shipment and delivery. Waiting 8 to 10 month for a Pickuptruck doenst sound like nobody buys them. the Plants are working full time and cant keep up with demand. Price was ca 50.000 Euro before taxes and high end tune with a v6 Diesel. They cant make the Trucks fast enough for all the guys that want one.
My Chevy dealer keeps calling and emailing me trying to get me to trade in my 2017 Chevy Cruze on a new Chevy. He ask me what would make me trade for a new car. I told him it would take Chevy coming back to their right mind and stop price gouging. They act like everyone has a CZcams channel or a business.
if they erase 35k of the price they may get some actual interest.even 0% financing of 35 to 40k, is still 35 to 40k too much.if they want to fish, they need to use a better bait.or NOBODY will bite the hook.
BTW the 2025 Ram will no longer have the Hemi it will not have a twin turbo inline 6 It seems really bad ass but reliability is ALWAYS a concern! Take a new engine and Stellantis and you better have a strong stomach to buy it! lol
Seems like we are in another 1970's market cycle in more ways than should be physically possible outside of actual time travel. Just replace 60's muscle cars with Trucks.
I am NOT broke....I ain't buying this sh^t....nope...not spending the price of a house for an over blown pussified truck..I'll build my own from parts, thanks.
I am in Edmonton searching for 12-16k decent used sedan. The prices in marketplace seem to start to decline, especially mazda3, also 2014-2016 civic with 130k-ish km
I think insurance is a big factor, Obviously the premium on a more expensive vehicle is higher, also your "private" telemetry data that manufacturers sell to insruance companies can increase your premium further. IF THESE "NEW" SAFETY FEATURES ARE SO EFFECTIVE WHY WOULD THE INSURANCE IN ANY WAY BE MORE EXPENSIVE? Is it because ultimately the driver is the one responsible... duh.
$10K or less for an older truck, V8, 4 speed granny gearbox, rebuilt non computer engine, clean interior and paint. No info screens, fobs, radars on and on and on and will outlast the $70K + new truck.
I still got my 2002 Dodge ram done put a new Engine in it and transmission not selling any time soon Glad I got it Years ago and made a couple of fixes on my own time man I'm happy the new Trucks are more expensive to fix with electrical and all type of gadgets that you don't need hell on that I'm keeping my old Truck
I could never understand why "tax time" results in increased auto sales. The average tax refund is not all that great so why would these refunds make any difference. Could it be that Canadians are getting much higher refunds than here in the U.S. At 9 minutes in the video a Ford Shelby stickers at $193,000 so even a tax refund of say $20,000 accounts for only 10% of the sticker price. This baffles my mind.
I'm in an Organized Building Trade that pays well and there used to be new trucks every couple years. Now its all Hybrid Camrys and Kias and Hyundais. Some Maverick base models too. If Ford would push out more base AWD and FWD they would run the numbers up.
I love my old 96 Ford truck. It does everything needed, it's cheap, and paid for... People buy new trucks because they feel the need to have new SHINY TOYS, which is just a lack of maturity...
I'm not sure if buyers are broke, but I'm sure no one wants to pay $70k+ for a truck. $70k+ is a luxury money for a car/truck before pandemic hit. I remember looking at a used Lexus LC500 few years back and thinking that is a nice car that I probably cant afford, which was about $75k. I would like to know what is the true manufacturing cost of these trucks and how much is company greed.
In 2014 gas hit 4 bucks and I got a Ram 1500 Sport 4x4 fully loaded for 39k!!! I am driving it until it falls apart. I guess I’ll move back to a small truck because I will never spend 80k or more for a 1/2 ton truck.
The problem is that the auto stock market seems to be doing very well, thanks for people still buying when they misbehave. People need to stop supporting bad behavior by voting with their dollars and spending ridiculous and unreasonable greedy markups.
WI, I see main lots full, but their backup lots still have room. In 2017 they kept all their lots full. I know 1 dealer is renting is back lot for people to store their campers. Their not back to "normal" yet
Looking at the inventory lists, it is growing. Regionally, there might be a decrease, overall inventory is *far* above the 45 to 50 days it needs to be in this era of "just in time" manufacturing. I realize the crowd here isn't a Tesla fan, but the *only* pickup I would consider is the Cybertruck. Once production is up at full rate, a mere 60k per quarter or 20k per month, it will have an impact. If nothing else, it is an excellent substitute for an SUV with the ability to haul stuff. What is it, 80% of full size pickups are for suburbanites that don't *need* a work truck? There just isn't anything else that is a large car for the middle class.
I see brand new F-250 Platinums, Escalades and Chevy HD trucks driving everywhere. Oh I forgot about all the Denali SUVs and trucks and the new Dodge Rams. I guess they sell better here.
I have a 1996 Chevy Silverado,2500, 170K miles, runs great. 5.7 liter, 250HP, 355 lbs torque. I can tow 9,000 lbs. I get about 14-18 mpg on the road. I have maintained It , and it looks great, my favorite body style. Why would I buy a beast like that white Shelby for almost $200K Canadian dollars? Go figure.
Gee say it ain’t so. Trucks costing $80,000 to over 100,000 ! P T Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute! This situation has gone on way too long! Not everybody needs a truck! Think about what your needs are not what you ego says. When you pay the money of a home deposit which depreciates to almost zero , it says ego or stupidity. I guess it could be both!
I got the money but NO ONE will EVER RAPE ME! I am licking my chops waiting to get my awesome deal! In the mean time my ULTRA RELIABLE 2009 Hyundai Sonata NEVER lets me down! It will be 15 years on June 1st and it has NEVER broke down and only an AC compressor (actually the clutch filed coil) two years ago. I would prefer a new Hyundai or Kia but will take anything reliable with a good deal. I would really like a truck. Normally I would take the Santa Cruz buy I want a REAL pickup. I might even be more well suited with a mini van, the Carnival of course!
It's really just to much money. Most people go to work. Come home. Run to the grocery store. Maybe a appointment here and there. Bring kids somewhere. Back to work. Back home .. In the meantime the car gets rock chips, hits some potholes. Maybe sits in traffic when it's congested. Might get a flat tire. Gets rained on our driven through salt and snow. Gets some dings and scratches from the parking in parking lots. Maybe the occasional run away grocery cart. If you look at how cars are used. It's basically transportation that will get hurt in the process. There's no investment here. That's too much money. Even if you have the money. That's too much money for most of these cars. And how they get used. Few years might have scratches, dings, rock chips, maybe some surface rust underneath. Maybe need tires and alignment or struts from those potholes. It won't stay "new" long. Plus you pay taxes on it. Insurance. Registration fees. . How much is a car budget that's appropriate? How much is it worth to drive to work to make more money to pay for the car you drive in going to work and then spend what you have left at the big box store. This shouldn't be something that's costing you thousands and thousands and thousands a year. That basically defeats the purpose of driving it to work to make money.
Im not broke, but im also not stupid...bring those trucks down 45 to 50 percent and ill buy...i already have 2 trucks and a VW..its not a need but a want.....not at those prices tho...ridiculous!
I drive a. 1987 Nessan hard body... Now considered a miniature pick-up.... Everywhere I go I get asked if I want to sell it! clearly the manufacturers are building for maximum profits over what the people want or need!!! None of the trucks you have shown is a real work truck!!!
new vehicles are a bad investment. Even if you pay cash, the start losing value the second you drive it off the lot and you are underwater or upside down the same day
Love the cuts... Quick in and out of shots, love the flow of this video
Thanks a lot Brandon. I appreciate that. It makes it a bit more engaging.
Your collab vid was awesome too with many small quick segments and we may have to team up again soon.
Hey get to work no slacking need more great videos😂😂😂
I don't like the over and over smashing the screen ones. Once in a while okay but some are just annoying@@markholubetz
To buy a truck that costs more than my house that will eventually turn into a rust bucket, makes no sense.
Sucks..plus they all have bad reviews and recalls 😐
@@jayc4715 yes
Don’t buy them!
They don't care about the majority of their customers, and we don't care if they go out of business !
They won’t go out of business because our tax dollars will bail them out. No matter what we never win.
20k discount but 50k overpriced...ok
Way too much money
50k is too much for a street vehicle
Im just waiting for the repo market to undercut the 100k truck market!
If I was not getting taxed to death, I might be able to buy a new truck.
Went to a independent dealer to buy a model Y. Negotiated for hours to get to an Out the Door price to 27k so i could qualify for the used EV tax credit. They got the paperwork ready and i was about to sign but realized they added 4k to the price trying to basically colled the EV tax for themselves. Dealer told me the OTD price was with the EV credit. So i ended up walking away and they got mad saying i wasted their time when in reality they were trying to screw me over.
yeah...your screwing taxpayers, and the dealer wanted to instead...i hope all your grifts fail
i thought tesla didnt negotiate?
You did the right thing.
BUYING AN EV IS STUPID IN ITSELF.😂😂😂😂
Yipppppeeeeee. Cant wait till they are stacked on the lots 5 high
Never thought I would live to see a $118,000 for a pickup truck
You will live to see them go much much higher as well.
You never thought you would see 12 bucks for a Big Mac combo either, or 500k for a fixer upper.....and so forth.
I am puzzled as to why they continue to build more trucks when they can't sell what they have sitting unsold?
The manifacturers are pushing the dealers hard
Gotta pump the numbers up
@@markholubetz Probably to try and force dealers to lower prices because they're losing so much money, the big three cant live off of fleet purchases forever!
That road salt residue on that Shelby rubber trim looks great !!! Let them sit and rust, baby rust.
Good call!
I’m not broke. I have several thousand of free income every month. I *will not* spend it on a car. The market is fully set up to screw customers over. The vehicles are overpriced and what they produce is unreliable. Dealerships want to mark up the price over MSRP. Insurance companies are hiking insurance rates massively. Car repair shops lie to you and do half assed jobs. Why would I spend my good money on that sh*t show?
I won’t. I’ll run my 7 year old car into the ground and spend my money having fun, not on cars. I’m done. I’m out. F*** the industry.
The prices need to be cut in half for people to be able to afford them again
I'm with you. I bought a new 2020 Toyota Tundra and paid 46k. In 2022 Toyota did a complete remake and now the same truck that is less reliable with a smaller turbo charged engine is 73k. This much of an increase in two years is insane.
That White Shelby Truck is more than what I paid for my 3 bedroom 2 bathroom 1,550 square feet condo in a nice & safe downtown area of a beautiful Chicago suburb 😂
Only some cartel dude gonna buy that 775 horse sled.
Politicians and drug lords
In Arizona, I am currently seeing 10k off of MSRP for a Sierra 1500 Elevation, 4wd, crew cab, but this is still not enough. OTD is still 56-58k. For this same vehicle 4 years ago, it was low 40s. The car market still has a long way to go down before they are affordable again.
Facts.
I bought a brand new Toyota 4WD truck from the dealership for $8,500, but that was in 1985 and the truck was a 1986 model year.
If buyers aren't broke now, They sure will be after buying an over priced vehicle . Ill keep my $$$
Here in the US, they are sugar coating the unemployment rate. Its really 5% and going up.
Buyers are not broke--manufacturers have simply run pick up prices to the point where 70% of their previous customer base can no longer financially qualify to buy them
Idk everyone I know is pretty strapped lol
I know times are tough for many people.
A friend had a borrowed money from me to get an oil change that was long overdue on his vehicle.
@@icosthop9998 I had to beg my boss at the time to let me do my oil change at our shop because I just didn't have the money to take it to a shop and my house has terrible space for working on cars
My local dealer has a new 2023 F150 STX extended cab with 2.7 ecoboost. I talked to them yesterday and they said sticker was $50k and I told them I’d do $43k and they said they won’t go any lower then $49k so I walked. Probably why they still have that 2023 and multiple others almost halfway through 2024.
I had the same problem with them!! Dealers here in Missouri dont want to negotiate
Some of these cars cost as much as a house did a few years ago and there is no way they will last as long with all the plastic parts.
Passed by the local Ram Chrysler Jeep dealer today here… lot is absolutely jam packed with new inventory. Must be costing a fortune to keep that metal sitting there.
I absolutely 100% fully agree ,many will go bankrupt sitting on so much inventory, their floor plan cost are becoming more problematic, and there is just nowhere near enough qualified buyers that can actually afford them...good luck
i ordered a Ford Ranger (Germany) in early January. a few days ago i got a Building Date and a VIN. It is going to be built on 23rd of May in South Africa, and delivery in Germany will be somwhere between August and October. Ford Pickups are half a year from Order to Built Date in the plant, and another 3-5 month for shipment and delivery. Waiting 8 to 10 month for a Pickuptruck doenst sound like nobody buys them. the Plants are working full time and cant keep up with demand. Price was ca 50.000 Euro before taxes and high end tune with a v6 Diesel. They cant make the Trucks fast enough for all the guys that want one.
My Chevy dealer keeps calling and emailing me trying to get me to trade in my 2017 Chevy Cruze on a new Chevy. He ask me what would make me trade for a new car. I told him it would take Chevy coming back to their right mind and stop price gouging. They act like everyone has a CZcams channel or a business.
if they erase 35k of the price they may get some actual interest.even 0% financing of 35 to 40k, is still 35 to 40k too much.if they want to fish, they need to use a better bait.or NOBODY will bite the hook.
BTW the 2025 Ram will no longer have the Hemi it will not have a twin turbo inline 6 It seems really bad ass but reliability is ALWAYS a concern! Take a new engine and Stellantis and you better have a strong stomach to buy it! lol
When that truck lot is empty of trucks, then they are priced right.
The average new car buyer is Tapped Out
Yet, the company's don't see it
Seems like we are in another 1970's market cycle in more ways than should be physically possible outside of actual time travel.
Just replace 60's muscle cars with Trucks.
It feels that way
Bolt=Pinto?
except trucks aren't cool...just penis replacement devices for all non work related buyers
LOL...$193K for a Ford F150. Where are all the crazies.
Exactly, I wonder who is actually buying that
Stop buying! Stop buying! Stop buying! Let the manufacturers and dealerships choke on their inventory especially their trucks!
At this point, if they don't want to play ball
Weekly payments? Yeah, you can’t afford it
Thank you for sitting the fleet sales. I can't stand it when car buying channels fail to mention this.
You are welcome. Those are huge factors that contribute to the sales numbers
Buyers stay away from large vehicles ...unless you need for work.
Thanks for sharing
I’m getting my popcorn 🍿 and waiting to watch the crash.
Haha indeed….same
Everyone needs to band together..... DO NOT BUY. Force the prices down and make the manufacturers focus on building vehicles we can actually afford.
Thats about what it will take
I am NOT broke....I ain't buying this sh^t....nope...not spending the price of a house for an over blown pussified truck..I'll build my own from parts, thanks.
People are trying to unload their vehicles (fsbo) but they overpaid and are upsidedown so they're not even worth buying
Lot rot!
Look at the Ford F150's in the lot. There are thousands in the lots.
Good..even if they cut it by 50% its still waaay too much.
Buyers aren't broke . We just don't like buying boats we never get to fish from .
I am in Edmonton searching for 12-16k decent used sedan. The prices in marketplace seem to start to decline, especially mazda3, also 2014-2016 civic with 130k-ish km
Nobody wants to buy a $80000 truck at 9% interest!!!
Nice work! Your videos are timely, interesting, informative, and well organized.
Glad you like them! I really appreciate the support
I think insurance is a big factor, Obviously the premium on a more expensive vehicle is higher, also your "private" telemetry data that manufacturers sell to insruance companies can increase your premium further. IF THESE "NEW" SAFETY FEATURES ARE SO EFFECTIVE WHY WOULD THE INSURANCE IN ANY WAY BE MORE EXPENSIVE? Is it because ultimately the driver is the one responsible... duh.
$10K or less for an older truck, V8, 4 speed granny gearbox, rebuilt non computer engine, clean interior and paint. No info screens, fobs, radars on and on and on and will outlast the $70K + new truck.
Anyone hoping to own a post 2020 truck can thank their local biden voter for taking that opportunity away forever.
Nah, it's everyone in government. not one side or the other.
Wrong.. gas and the cost of business always go up under Democrats and down under Republicans. It’s called speculation and regulation. But you tried
@@Joshua-pr9vg seriously theyre all owned by zionists but people would rather "choose a side", hopeless
Chevy is around 9500 less then a similar ram. Thats why they are selling
Stelantis raised prices almost 50% over the last 3 or 4 years...
Those are millionaires’ prices. And they don’t drive trucks.
Nobody seems to be going out of business.
72,000 reasons not to buy that truck. Inflation is kicking everyone`s ass.
I still got my 2002 Dodge ram done put a new Engine in it and transmission not selling any time soon Glad I got it Years ago and made a couple of fixes on my own time man I'm happy the new Trucks are more expensive to fix with electrical and all type of gadgets that you don't need hell on that I'm keeping my old Truck
Love my 96 f2fiddy stabbed create motor and tranny for 6000.and change !!!
They don't want you to own the truck..just make monthly payments. And trade up after 5 years
The new business model is that buying new vehicles are for the rich. Often for cash. The middle class will be taking out big loans to buy a used car.
I still own a 1968 f100 I purchased 20 years ago. Runs Great. Purchased for $400.00. $60,000 for a new truck....nope!
Dude where are you with all that snow? Or is this old footage?
I could never understand why "tax time" results in increased auto sales. The average tax refund is not all that great so why would these refunds make any difference. Could it be that Canadians
are getting much higher refunds than here in the U.S. At 9 minutes in the video a Ford Shelby stickers at $193,000 so even a tax refund of say $20,000 accounts for only 10% of the sticker price.
This baffles my mind.
I'm in an Organized Building Trade that pays well and there used to be new trucks every couple years. Now its all Hybrid Camrys and Kias and Hyundais. Some Maverick base models too. If Ford would push out more base AWD and FWD they would run the numbers up.
Yes
You can buy a brand new base 911 for the price of one of those trucks.
Yes it really makes no sense
Don't know where you live but here in PA prices are crazy
If they're not selling now, imagine in a full blown recession, like we will have soon, if not now.
We are in a recession. Because democrats are in power, they changed the definition of a recession.
75000.00! For a truck!! Cash for clunkers...Thanks Obama! Can't find a decent used truck for less than 30.000.00!!
No, people have that kind of money. I just don’t live in an ultra rich neighborhood.
You are all right correct. Sr. I keep my old trucks running too no new at all no with this hi prices and cheap cuality goog video God bless 🙏
Snow? It’s already 90 degrees here 🥵
I love my old 96 Ford truck. It does everything needed, it's cheap, and paid for...
People buy new trucks because they feel the need to have new SHINY TOYS, which is just a lack of maturity...
I'm not sure if buyers are broke, but I'm sure no one wants to pay $70k+ for a truck. $70k+ is a luxury money for a car/truck before pandemic hit. I remember looking at a used Lexus LC500 few years back and thinking that is a nice car that I probably cant afford, which was about $75k.
I would like to know what is the true manufacturing cost of these trucks and how much is company greed.
Haven't seen any major price drops in the US market, when they get the price at 20% below invoice of what they paid for it with no greed up charge..
What the heck is in the rain up there? Those trucks are always covered with a nasty film
In 2014 gas hit 4 bucks and I got a Ram 1500 Sport 4x4 fully loaded for 39k!!! I am driving it until it falls apart. I guess I’ll move back to a small truck because I will never spend 80k or more for a 1/2 ton truck.
THESE CARTUBERS ARE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THESE DEALERSHIPS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS THAN THE PUBLIC IS. #PAY ATTENTION 😂😂😂😂
Car dealers don't seem to want to sell too bad.
As high as the gas prices are you could not give me one of those big trucks.
What they want for new trucks they can rot on the lot.
The problem is that the auto stock market seems to be doing very well, thanks for people still buying when they misbehave. People need to stop supporting bad behavior by voting with their dollars and spending ridiculous and unreasonable greedy markups.
What state are you guys in ? Here in Missouri lots are empty
WI, I see main lots full, but their backup lots still have room. In 2017 they kept all their lots full. I know 1 dealer is renting is back lot for people to store their campers. Their not back to "normal" yet
Looking at the inventory lists, it is growing. Regionally, there might be a decrease, overall inventory is *far* above the 45 to 50 days it needs to be in this era of "just in time" manufacturing.
I realize the crowd here isn't a Tesla fan, but the *only* pickup I would consider is the Cybertruck. Once production is up at full rate, a mere 60k per quarter or 20k per month, it will have an impact. If nothing else, it is an excellent substitute for an SUV with the ability to haul stuff. What is it, 80% of full size pickups are for suburbanites that don't *need* a work truck? There just isn't anything else that is a large car for the middle class.
Toyota & Ram is in trouble.... I think Ford is in the best position right now.
Well…..
GREED GREED GREED AND MORE GREED !!!!!
Exactly true
Hello Mark, here watching!
Thanks for the visit
@@markholubetz You’re welcome 👍
Dealers and Banks have been screwing customers for decades. Karma has finally pivoted.
Prices are Ri Donk U Lus
I see brand new F-250 Platinums, Escalades and Chevy HD trucks driving everywhere. Oh I forgot about all the Denali SUVs and trucks and the new Dodge Rams. I guess they sell better here.
What is going to happen to gas powered vehicles when electric moves them off the market???????
That will be an interesting time
Are buyers broke, or just unwilling to pay these ridiculous prices?
I have a 1996 Chevy Silverado,2500, 170K miles, runs great. 5.7 liter, 250HP, 355 lbs torque. I can tow 9,000 lbs. I get about 14-18 mpg on the road. I have maintained It , and it looks great, my favorite body style.
Why would I buy a beast like that white Shelby for almost $200K Canadian dollars? Go figure.
I'll keep my 95 f2fiddy 220.000 on clock go anywhere any time.
Gee say it ain’t so. Trucks costing $80,000 to over 100,000 ! P T Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute!
This situation has gone on way too long! Not everybody needs a truck! Think about what your needs are not what you ego
says. When you pay the money of a home deposit which depreciates to almost zero , it says ego or stupidity. I guess it could be both!
For 72,000 GM can keep it
Get a Camry or a Tesla for 30k. Any of these prices over 40k I simply see as waste.
I have my deep freezer filled up with all kinds of meats!! I suggest you all do the same!! With a generator ! Just in case!!
Nah, if things get bad, fat people are TOO SLOW to get away!
I got the money but NO ONE will EVER RAPE ME! I am licking my chops waiting to get my awesome deal! In the mean time my ULTRA RELIABLE 2009 Hyundai Sonata NEVER lets me down! It will be 15 years on June 1st and it has NEVER broke down and only an AC compressor (actually the clutch filed coil) two years ago. I would prefer a new Hyundai or Kia but will take anything reliable with a good deal. I would really like a truck. Normally I would take the Santa Cruz buy I want a REAL pickup. I might even be more well suited with a mini van, the Carnival of course!
It's really just to much money. Most people go to work. Come home. Run to the grocery store. Maybe a appointment here and there. Bring kids somewhere. Back to work. Back home ..
In the meantime the car gets rock chips, hits some potholes. Maybe sits in traffic when it's congested. Might get a flat tire. Gets rained on our driven through salt and snow. Gets some dings and scratches from the parking in parking lots. Maybe the occasional run away grocery cart.
If you look at how cars are used. It's basically transportation that will get hurt in the process. There's no investment here. That's too much money. Even if you have the money. That's too much money for most of these cars. And how they get used. Few years might have scratches, dings, rock chips, maybe some surface rust underneath. Maybe need tires and alignment or struts from those potholes. It won't stay "new" long. Plus you pay taxes on it. Insurance. Registration fees.
. How much is a car budget that's appropriate? How much is it worth to drive to work to make more money to pay for the car you drive in going to work and then spend what you have left at the big box store. This shouldn't be something that's costing you thousands and thousands and thousands a year. That basically defeats the purpose of driving it to work to make money.
Ford won't drop prices on lightning or mach e despite big inventory build up
Im not broke, but im also not stupid...bring those trucks down 45 to 50 percent and ill buy...i already have 2 trucks and a VW..its not a need but a want.....not at those prices tho...ridiculous!
Plant layoffs For the big 3 coming to a city near you. !!!
I drive a. 1987 Nessan hard body... Now considered a miniature pick-up.... Everywhere I go I get asked if I want to sell it!
clearly the manufacturers are building for maximum profits over what the people want or need!!!
None of the trucks you have shown is a real work truck!!!
new vehicles are a bad investment. Even if you pay cash, the start losing value the second you drive it off the lot and you are underwater or upside down the same day