Power Conditioners - 3 SIMPLE Reasons to Own Them
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 24. 07. 2024
- Why own a power conditioner? Well, there are a number of reasons to own a power conditioner, or have multiple power conditioners in your home recording studio. So Today I'll give you 3 simple reasons why you should have at least one power conditioner in your studio.
For more detailed information about how power conditioners work, check out this awesome and detailed article by stamp sound đ
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0:00 - Intro
1:04 - Power Conditioners - Common Features
2:16 - Reason 1 - Studio Organization
2:50 - Reason 2 - Power Conditioners for Different Purposes in your Studio
3:40 - Reason 3 - Clean Power for Tube Amps
4:00 - Summary
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I run everything for my guitar rig off 1 ART power conditioner just to get a common ground. Between using the ART and a Earthquaker Swissthings pedal to help eliminate the 60 cycle hum helps greatly.
Just to explain my rig, would maybe help understand, I do "gain stack " so the potential for noise happening with this is definitely a contributing factor.
I run a simple pedal board, into a wah, then a Ibanez Nu-tube screamer to a Zakk Wylde overdrive and a MXR stereo chorus. The brain of the board is my Earthquaker Swissthings. From that pedal 1 output goes to my Carvin X50B with 4x12 cab and the B output to my Marshall jcm800 combo amp. I run them in stereo, so you can see the potential for a lot noise and the power conditioner and the Swissthings helps tremendously. I also run an old ART sge effects processor through the effects loop on the Carvin.
Thanks for the video! This is exactly what I was looking for. Now I know why I was getting noises on my sound
Hey Roger!! No worries at all and Iâm glad the video was useful to you. đ
Thank you for all the GREAT INFO. You my friend just convinced me to buy more than one Power Conditioner. Thanks and keep up the great work.
+Sebastian Gonzalez thanks for the kind words and Iâm glad you found the info useful!! They are good to have for sure, hence why I have 3. Inexpensive way to improve your studio space đ
Can you explain me why you need many power conditionner ? Thanks u mate
Hey Eidji. A couple reasons. First being power conditioners on average have 8 outlets which in a studio can fill up real fast. I also like to have dedicated units, like one for all my guitar and bass amps, one for studio monitors and such, so on and so forth.
Since the video though Iâm down to only having 2 power conditioners. I replaced one with a UPS battery backup that my iMac, interface and external hard drives are plugged into. Hope this answers your question đ
Hey thanks for all the information
I have a question can I plug my Mac Pro my audio interface and the two reverb pcm 70 and pcm 91 on the same furman thank you
Hey Andy. Yes, you can plug most anything into a power conditioner. (A space heater may over load it, but otherwise...) Just try and think strategically about it. This is why i have different conditioners used for different purposes. But your Mac Pro (which if it's the new mac pro, i'm a little jealous lol) and interface would always be left on. So having them plugged into a conditioner with other items you always leave on makes sense. If you leave the reverb units on all the time then for sure, plug them into one conditioner. If not, I'd look into a second conditioner and use it to power items that don't always need to be turned on.
Thank you so much for the clear video!
Hey Maryam, glad you liked the video đ
Thanks man! Exactly what I wanted to hear.
+walter baccoli sweet!! Glad the video was useful for you đ
Great video!
hello great vid! i use power conditioner for my theater room and it really does a great job, i now decide to go with a higher model the Furman Elite15-DMI got 13 outlet but i am now wondering if i can plug all my audio gear on it or it will it trip the breaker? got a few stuff to plug in like 3 crown amp a processor 2 sub cable tv dvd, xbox etc etc ,, not sure anymore or should i plug the subs in another power conditioner?
Itâs all a matter of how loud you might push it, because volume dictates amperage draw. And itâs an exponential curve, where you will think itâs good and loud, and then you turn it up just a little bit, to your ears, but in reality your doubling the volume and the wattage the a,ps are trying to push, which in turn calculates into amperage. 1800 watts is 15 amps, and 2400 watts is 20 amps, but these modern amps have capacitors with act like a micro battery and mega amplifier, making far more wattage than the 15 amp residential power outlet should handle. Bottom line is, try it and see, but experience has shown me, if you trip a breaker and itâs caused purely by your amperage draw, as opposed to a short or some other fault which trips the breaker, then youâve got it LOUD. Iâve got two racks full of gear with four amps, two mixers, various outboard gear, etc, and I play it loud, loud, loud, easily enough to be heard outside even with all of the preventative measure Iâve taken to keep the sound in, cardioid subs and all. The cardioid subs set-up is particularly awesome, as I can have the FROG shaking the walls upstairs, yet with about 15db less bass behind the subs which is the rest of the house. Itâs awesome. Anyway, one circuit of 15amps should suffice for almost any listening experience at home without making your neighbors hate you or the cops coming over to join your party. Especially if youâre playing âBad Boysâ by Inner Circle. Loud.
Great video ! If I understand correctly, the power conditioner is used to clean the electrical network (especially the noise of monitoring speakers for example) is that correct? What if I have a PC tower, and monitors, can I leave them on in the power conditioner without a problem? Thanks you đđŒ
Thanks Eidji!! And yea, thatâs about the long and short of it yes. Power conditioners can help or completely clean up electrical noise. Big studio would have separate electrical lines run but we usually donât have that option at home (and big studios still use power conditioners as well)
You can leave your computer and such plugged in yes. I have my monitors plugged into a separate unit from the computer tho. Simply because I can turn off my monitors and sub with a single switch instead of having to get behind and crawl under my desk to turn them off.
Cheers for this!
+skylightmusic showreel cheers accepted lol. đ
Hello cheers from Venezuela, love so much this content, and yes I do highly agree that everyone should have Power conditioner because it makes the audio less nosy , more clear, also improve the smooth of a tv/computer, reducing the visual lag, hard to explain is like input lag, when there is dirty electricity the frequency is upside down, and not everyone know this but..
The manufacturer make their product to work with 8% fails, example if you live in USA where is 110/120 A/C and 60 hertz they manufacturer may make a computer monitor to work with a margin of errors 12% or 8%
Example 60 herz -8%= 55.2 so if the electricity is less than 55hz then the monitor may start to malfuctioning giving frames skip, or frames a head, lag..
And then this is where all start oh my game is running 300fps, but game feels like 100fps.. even if they have 360hz monitor
Also I have been teel that you can combine 2 things (Power conditioner directly to outlet) and second connect a UPS (double conversion sinewave) to the power conditioner, and voila your electricity will be more clean and the ups will fix the electricity hertz.
Cheers and sorry for my poor english.
Great comment!! And no issues with your English at all. One of my friends growing up was born in Venezuela.
Since the video I moved one of my conditioners to the living room so the tv, record player and theatre receiver are now plugged into one.
In its place in the studio is a UPS that my computer and external hard drives run off of. Then another conditioner comes out of that to power my studio monitors and interface. Itâs very clean, and now if the power goes out my computer keeps running. Bonus lol
I have a pair of studio monitors plugged into a power strip (something from Walmart). When I shut them down before everything else I'll sometimes get a pop from one of the monitors. Will having a power conditioner for the monitors eliminate the noise. Note: the current outlet has 2 one strip for the monitors, and the other has a separate strip for tv, lamp, etc. Thanks in advance.
My friends thought I lost my marbles spending $300 on what appeared to be a power strip. It's not a power strip. It's power hum nose isolated at each plug and eliminate that annoying hum from my air conditioner or automatic air fryer oven fan feeding back through all the wall outlets. It's listening to my not so little desk top Bristen headphone amp without the slightest hum coming from my PCs power supply leaking back through the power strip.
Lol thatâs good that the strip solved your issues. I wouldnât worry about your friends. Mine think Iâm nuts when I drop $2000 on a Gibson. Itâs your money, do what feels right đ
Hi there, question, Would you recommend power conditioning device for modified wave from en inverter to power up tvs during power outage?
Depends. If its just a TV I would just use a regular power bar with a serge protector in it. If it's a more involved setup then sure. I have a power conditioner in my living room. My TV, theatre receiver, record player, modem, wifi router is all plugged into it.
IMHO, Modified wave form inverters may get you by for electrical wired tools i.e. corded power drill etc. I know of no power conditioning device that would work with a modified wave. Having a combination of both a modified wave inverter for electrically wired tools and a pure sine wave inverter for everything else would be the cheapest set up. You can't go wrong with sticking to a much more expensive pure sine wave inverter(s) for all of your electrical needs that are within reason i.e., not a 480V 3 phase such and such electrical device. Pure sine wave Aims Inverter and Tripp Lite Power Conditioner used in conjunction with one another should last a long time.
Can you link me to the one you have for the tubes? I just bought a tube mic and itâs been having an awful humming noise, I thought it had a faulty power supply. Did some research and found this. Please!
I have 3 linked in the article I wrote about power conditioners. 2 of the 3 are the current versions of the ones I have if you wanted to check them out. They are at the end of the article =)
www.everythingmusicandrecording.com/tutorials/power-conditioners
Great explanation of power conditioners, I wanted to know if it was in fact ok to leave studio monitors and other connected devices on and shut them all off with the on/off switch of the power conditioner, which you answered. I always thought it was ok but wasn't quite sure so I have been switching everything off individually to be on the safe side. Now I can finally turn everything off with one switch, especially since my power conditioners turns devices on and off in order of groups by types of devices connected anyway. Thanks again and good luck with the channel!
Thanks and glad the video answered your question my friend. My oldest power conditioner is 14ish years old and I have never had an issue turning things off and on via the PCâs power switch.
Mind you Iâd never do this with some items. As an example all of my guitar/bass amps share a power conditioner but I would never turn them all off/on using the switch on a power conditioner. I turn them off/on using the power/stand-by switches on each amp.
@@EverythingMusicRecording I understand monitors, but for a home studio is it better or worse to turn on/off a console or interface daily? And is it best to shut them down using the power conditioner in sequence steps vs shutting each down manually?
Thank you đ
No worries at all Morena =)
So if I also have a UPS does that plug into the power conditioner or does the power conditioner plug into it? Or is there some sort of UPS conditioner combo out there?
Hey Edwin. I bought an APC UPS a couple of months after I made this video. My iMac and external hard drives are plugged into it. I donât have it plugged into a power conditioner.
As for a UPS with power conditioning built in, Iâm sure they exist. Mine just has surge protection and since I didnât have any plans to plug any audio gear into it I didnât look to see if any also cleaned up the power or not.
The power conditioners ive been looking at donât have uk plug sockets đ but instead, 3 pin outputs... this is found on the furman m-10XE..
Iâm confused how this would work, since those 3 pin outputs go into the back of my Yamaha and Krk speakers... am I missing something? Do I need double ended 3 pin cables?
I had the same question. All our equipment in UK are 3 pin, but the power conditioners have kettle lead sockets. You can buy adapters, but I wonder what the solution is? Did you find one?
@@-_AjB_- yes, I had to buy kettle leads male to female and plug them straight from the Furman power condition into the speakers and equipment etc..
Hope that helps
@@ARCASIAUK and did you find a noticeable benefit?
@@-_AjB_- I couldnât find a power conditioner that had the 3pin UK sockets so I just bought the Furman conditioner with double ended kettle leadsđ... it works perfect
Damn strait, I love it
Lol thanks đ
Question? Each individual outlet gives you a 15 amps?
I would like to know if I can run all my QSC powered subs and speakers, about 8 subs, 4 k12's for top's, and 3 k12's for flor monitors, plus my led stage lighting?
It can, yes. But in a kitchen for instance, outlets are generally wired differently then other outlets in your house because kitchen appliances can pull a lot of instant draw. Youâd be popping breakers every time you turned on a blender otherwise. So it would depend on the power draw of each component and of your electrical has been wired up. I have a lot of stuff plugged in but it is never all on at the same time. My iMac, Focusrite, and eternal hard drives are the only âalways onâ items. Anything else is only powered up when I need to use it. If youâre concerned tho I would consult with an electrician.
Hey man great video. Could you please tell me which power conditioners you are using? I'm having trouble deciding which one to buy.
Thanks!! Glad you liked it đ
I have a Furman M8 and two ART SP4x4âs.
Awesome video thanks!!!!!
No worries at all Yochanan =)
I was going to go with the black lion or the Art. But hard to many bad reviews. So doing some more research and found the furman are the cream of the crop so I went down to my Guitar Center and pick one up. Havenât installed it yet. I never knew these were essential. Thanks again!!! I completely understand now
The ART had bad reviews? Iâve had 2 of them for a number of years and except for one tiny issue (the light on the power meter burnt out on one of them) Iâve had zero issues. So Iâm a little surprised at that.
You canât go wrong with the Furmans. My M8 was the first power conditioner I ever bought which is like 14 years ago now. Never had an issue with it either. Thatâs the one all my guitar amps are plugged into.
Lol yea they are a boring purchase but very essential. And no worries at all my friend đ
Great stuff man! But there is one thing i'm struggling with which i hope you can clarify for me. So you have three different power conditioners. Do each of them go to their separate power outlet in your house? Because my experience is, that if i use multiple power outlets in my synth setup, then it builds unwanted noice. Keep on, cheers!
Power conditioners will not correct ground topology problems, which sounds like the cause of your issues with multiple synths plugged into various outlets. .Can you describe the noice you are experiencing?
@@hat2flat use quality direct boxes which in this case are useful for their transformers and can usually get rid of hum or buzz. Radial Pro DI is my choice, and you get what you pay for. Of course a $15 direct box can accomplish the same thing, but the cheaper transformers in those often negatively affect the very high or very low harmonics of your source, which you may or may not even notice. If one outlet gives you noise, get one of those little plugs which test for proper wiring, as in neutral and ground switched, open ground, etc, and if you find a problem, fix it.
So you plug everything in your studio into the back of the power conditioner? Audio interface, studio monitors, Kemper, guitar pedals, etc?
+SamWilliams_Music I do, yes. Except for my computer, hard drives and my interface. They are (since I did this video) now plugged into a UPS battery backup.
Thanks! for the video. Which power conditioners do you recommend?
Thanks Tamal. Iâve had a Furman M8 for 15 years and two ART SP4x4âs for about ten years. All 3 have been bulletproof so either would be good starting point.
Other then that, get the best you can afford with the features you need đ
@@EverythingMusicRecording Thank you so much for the info. Cheers!
Anytime my friend đ
Hell yeah. I love videos like this. Straight and to the point. No B.S. Thank you!
I do what I can lol. Glad you liked the video my friend đ
So are they surge protectors? Or should I plug the conditioner into a surge protector? Iâm looking at getting the cheapest plainest furman rack mount conditioner
Yes, they act as surge protectors and also help clean up dirty electrical current. You don't need to plug them into a surge protector, just straight into a regular wall outlet.
Thank you
No worries Brady
Hello. Why do I need a separate power conditioner for guitar amplifiers and a separate one for laptops and audio interface?
You don't need to at all if you don't want too. Thats just how I choose to do it for my setup. It also makes things easier for turning off groups of gear you may not need powered on with a single switch. So it's really an organizational thing for me.
I'm getting digital interference from the wifi signal in my studio when I use my Boogie mark IV. Would running the amp off a power conditioner sort this out?
+samwilcockmusic not likely, no. I mean you could try it, I could be totally wrong. WiFi signal is in the air and not coming through the electrical in your house. I would assume itâs more of a shielding issue... maybe... Are the Boogie and WiFi router in the same room, close to each other?
@@EverythingMusicRecording I should've mentioned; the WiFi in my studio is run off a booster from the mains electricity. So the WiFi signal from the router goes through the mains line to the booster in my studio. If you switch the WiFi booster in the studio off, the interference goes away instantly.
+samwilcockmusic oh ok. Well in that case it is possible a conditioner could take care of the issue. Iâd give it a go then.
03:40 hey my friend. I'm struggling with this. Fact is: i dont have a budget for a high class studio grade power conditioner. You think I could get away from the humming and buzz with those home theater grade power conditioners? Thanks
Each of my power conditioners were around $100ish each and do the job just fine. The same or similar models are in big studios all over the world. I have never used an expensive one though so I don't have a comparison to give you. Mind you big studios will also have separate electrical lines for lights and gear and such, whereas in a house we wouldn't (generally speaking)
You should have no issues. But since you're not sure I'd say just make sure you pick one up from a place with a good return policy. That way you have nothing to loose if for whatever reason it doesn't solve your problem. Worse case you might get hit with a small restocking fee depending on the store.
Gems !
Thanks, I'm setting up a new home studio now and those are good tips
Thanks Kevin. Glad you found the tips useful. How far along are you with the new studio?
Thanks
No worries at all =)
Should yoi run a guitsr amp though a power conditioner
In most situations, yes. Studio for sure, live shows would be preferable. Single combo amp in a bedroom or just playing on the back porch, probably not unless that outlet is causing the amp to hum. Then a little 1-2 outlet power conditioner would be a good idea but not a rack mount one.
Which brands do you have? and how do you feel about the Greenwave Dirty Electricity Filter?
Hey hey. I have two ART units and one Furman unit. I took a look at the greenwave stuff before replying. Iâve never heard of them so I have little to say other than this. If I had just a tube amp in a bedroom that was making a bunch of noise then something from greenwave could be a possible solution.
In a studio tho Iâd stick with a rack unit tho. The greenwave looks like it will cover the whole wall outlet and only provides one outlet. But if you need 20 of them⊠Iâm sure you see where Iâm going with this. A rack unit gives you 8+ outlets. So it just boils down to what one needs in a given situation.
@@EverythingMusicRecording ahh ok cool. The art one was actually the one I was looking at. The one for 199
Oh ok. Not sure which one that would be. I have 2 SP 4x4âs. Had them for a few years or so now and they have been great. Itâs nice having the wallwort spacing on the back too.
@@EverythingMusicRecording cool I went ahead and got the aart
Do they turn modified sine wave to pure one?
That's the basic idea.
in my "studio", I've got 2 tube amps, a bass amp, and a vocal amp. My tube amps hum and buzz like crazy. Hoping it will go away if I put them on power conditioners.
+sillydillydokieo oh nice. What amps do you have? And if the issue with the hum and buzz is being caused by dirty power in your house then a power conditioner should clear it up. My tube amps make a lot of noise if plugged directly into an outlet. Except the outlet on my back porch. Weird lol
I just got an expensive pc and want a good surge protector, is this power conditioner work the same as a regular power strip? I don't have a recording studio, should i buy it?
Great question N Crest. If itâs just for your PC and youâre not doing anything audio related, then no. I would instead recommend a UPS. This way youâll have the benefits of surge protection for your PC, plus the added bonus of a battery backup to further protect your computer in the event of a power outage.
I bought an APC for about $200 and my iMac and external hard drives now run off of that instead of a power conditioner. My conditioners now just have my guitar amps and such connected to them.
@@EverythingMusicRecording thank you!
Anytime my friend đ
Excellent work my friend....no sweet talk, right to the goods.....recommendations for conditioner?
My furman power conditioner's volt meter doesn't reach the green light, it's mostly up to the red and orange light only. May I know what i'm doing wrong?
None of mine have that meter Perth. Which model Furman do you have?
@@EverythingMusicRecording itâs an old one called Furman PL PLUS with colored LEDs (red, orange, green) as the voltmeter.
Found the manual for the unit. So it could be a few different things. Easiest would be maybe the green LEDâs are dead. Your voltage could be off, either being too high or low. The unit may have suffered a heavy surge and is partly damaged. Iâll leave the link for the manual below incase you donât have a copy.
Either way Iâd take it to a local repair shop and have it looked at, or just replace the unit depending on the cost of a possible repair.
issuu.com/maurizionervo/docs/furman_pl-8_pl-plus_manual
@@EverythingMusicRecording thank you!
No worries my friend!
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Maybe the tube amps hum due to ground loop?
Possible, tho I doubt it. I donât have loops anywhere else. I have been slowly upgrading outlets but not where the amps are plugged in yet. I remember back in the day my band had a show in... either Hamilton or London, one of the two. Both mine and my bassistâs amps buzzed and hummed like you never heard before. The sound guy blamed our gear (which we had both bought new amps only a handful of months before that) which was total BS. Neither of our amps ever did that before, or after we played that venue. So that place clearly had some wiring issues going on but didnât want to accept that fact. I can do some basic electrical work, changing outlets, light switches/fixtures, but Iâm not an electrician so I donât know what really causes these issues, but Iâve been uses conditioners for over 10 years and havenât looked back.
Youâre right about the way you feel about whatâs happening in the world right now. Thereâs a Power conditioner for that chaos but unfortunately I think itâs part of His plan.
what cheap good power conditioner would you suggest
Furman AC-210 A E Power Conditioner. Itâs the simplest and cheapest one I could find from one of the alleged best brands
Any suggestions for brands and where to buy them?
Hey Josef. I have 1 Furman and 2 ARTâs and Iâve had zero issues (minus a dead lightbulb in one unit) Most studios have Furmans all over the place so Furman is always a good bet.
Not all, but many guitar shops should have them in stock. Amazon or something would work as well.
@@EverythingMusicRecording thank you!
Any time my friend đ
The super expensive ones are not just power conditioners. They are voltage regulators.
My question has always been, how does one truly know their getting "clean" power?......they seem like glamorised Surge Protectors đ€
Would be great if these P.Cond items can be tested with an EMI Meter
Hey Txddy. It depends really. Everyoneâs electrical situation will be different. In my case having 4 tube amps, if I plug them into a regular outlet down here they get a little noisy. But when plugged into a power conditioner all that excess noise is gone.
On top of that they help organize power in the studio. Instead of power bars all over the floor everything is in a rack nice and tidy. Big studios will have separate electrical lines run for audio gear but you still see power conditioners in every rack case. So they serve more than one purpose.
If you want to go down the rabbit hole of how they work exactly there is an article I linked in either the video description or my pinned comment up top. Iâd give that a read. It gets really deep into the subject đ
@@EverythingMusicRecording | awesome, will def look into that article. I know the basics of what these P.Cond's do but I'm always curious as to well they really do their jobs - that's all but thanks for the speedy reply. Stay blessed đâđœ
You could use a simple oscilloscope to look at your incoming power and the output of the power conditioner. Look at the sine wave function, frequency (in Hz) and whatever else you might have issues with.
The shirt really helps to sell it...
But damn, this is wise advice and is going to heavily influence my next purchasing decision.
Lol yea, itâs hard to argue with Stewie Griffin. Glad the video was helpful tho. Power conditioners arenât the most exciting gear purchase, but they are very important to have. Hence why every studio has a bunch of them.
LIGTS ON THE SAME POWER CONDITIONER AS YOUR MONITORS! thats insane!!!
The lights will literally afect the audio!
Hey Joao. The only lights that were on the same power conditioner as my monitors were the tiny LED lights and possibly a lava lamp. There was zero difference in sound or noise introduced with or without those couple small lights plugged in. If there was they would not have been plugged into the same power conditioner.
You are correct tho. There are lights that will cause issues, just not the ones I was using. đ
@@EverythingMusicRecording You cant hear the difference because you just dont have good acoustics to show you the difference. All pro studios have separate electric systems for audio and other stuff. Ive been doing this for years, Im actually a studio designer so trust me! There is a diference. EVERYTHING you plug into that will affect the harmonics, to hear that you have to do everything right. Thats why people say that cables dont make any difference. The right order to actually make your studio is ACOUSTICS than POWER then MONITORS than converters, after solving all of that you can say it doesn't make any difference.
Ok, well, myself, and Iâm sure 99.9% of the people who watch this channel arenât in pro studios. We are in bedrooms, basements, rentals, parents houses. We donât have perfectly treated rooms or separate electrical systems. We try to do the best with what we have, which is very imperfect working conditions.
It would be amazing to build a pro level studio, but until that day, if any of us have to have a small LED lamp or a cellphone charger on the same outlet as our recording gear then what are we supposed to do? Never make any music until we can all have million dollar studios?
Not trying to be an ass here but itâs things like this that cause people to NOT want to make music. Because they think unless they have a world class studio and gear they canât do anything. Which is 1 million percent false.
@@EverythingMusicRecording I know that but for the very reason that people are not in 1 million dollar studio they should use knowledge to do the best they can with what they have. That means not plugging random stuff with audio. I can only see more and more people going into audio, so people CAN make music and are more then ever but there's a big problem of misleading information on CZcams, so as someone who informs people you should do your research on studio electrical system before you talk about that subject. The biggest problem right now is finding reliable sources of information. If you want to inform people, before you have to know what you are talking about. The only way to do that is having at least these fronts covered.
cup on monitor is triggering
lol yea, I keep my guitar picks in that mug. I was cleaning and forgot to put it back on the desk before doing the video.
What conditioner do you use ?
+Lolliz Prod. Group I have 2 Art SP 4x4 units and one Furman M-8
In reality, cleaning up "dirty electric" is usually negligible to zero in the vast majority of so-called power conditioners. I have an expensive Furman PL-PLUS DMC Power Conditioner and the dirty electric signal in my wall outlet is 56 mV and any outlet on the Furman itself is worse at 160 mV. So yeah, according to my Greenwave EMI Dirty Electricity Meter, the Furman is NOT cleaning up the dirty electricity and actually making it worse!
AudioScienceReview showed, once again, that yes, these donât do much of anything except create a larger 60hz hum. It all gets filtered out though in your deviceâs power supply, so thereâs no difference.
Well as with anything it could be a "your milage may vary" situation. All I know is that if I plug my tube amps into the wall they hum and make noise in my current space. When they are plugged into power conditioners then all the noise goes away. But either way at a bare minimum its better than power bars all over the floor for people to trip over lol.
@@EverythingMusicRecording Agreed; much better than nothing. The "conditioner" part is more about consistent voltage than dirty electric. Dirty electric is more about sine wave distortion. If you are getting a noticeable hum from speakers and amps out of the wall, then it's time to check out your house wiring.
1. Check every outlet for proper grounding. I highly recommend the Klein RT250.
2. Check every outlet and switch for a possible wiring short.
3. Check your house's grounding rod to be sure that it hasn't deteriorated in the ground. The resistance ohms on a healthy ground rod should be 25 ohms or less.
Besides the âbetter than nothingâ power conditioners are great for tidying up and keeping oneâs studio looking clean.
Beyond that Iâd have to have an electrician check all of that. I can do basic electrical, plus being in a rental Iâm pretty limited on what I can do. Would be nice to actually run separate power runs just for the studio like the big studios do. One day lol
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I heard power conditioners affect the sound in a negative way because it changes the impedance and that's supposedly why there are so many used power conditioners on the market. Supposedly there is a sweeter sound without it.
I suppose anything is possible but I have never heard of that one. But if you watch a gear rundown video for Angus Young he keeps his amps all running at a certain voltage as part of how he gets his tone.
But Iâve never plugged any of my amps into a power conditioner and thought âhrm, this doesnât sound goodâ
@@EverythingMusicRecording maybe he uses a Power Plant Regenerator or some kind of super expensive power conditioner that steps the impedance back down to zero.
I canât remember what he uses. I think it was talked about in a Premier Guitar rig rundown video if Iâm not mistaken with Angusâs guitar tech. Iâd have to re-watch that video.
Am I trippin or did he only give 2 reasons not 3? 1 was clean and organized, 2 was having different conditioners for different things for ease of use. What's the third reason??
I had to rewatch the video and youâre kinda right lol. Whoops. There was a 3rd but I didnât specifically mention it as the 3rd reason. That was keeping (my example was tube amps) from humming. The power where I am isnât great and if I was to plug one of my amps straight into a wall outlet, they hum. Plugged into a power conditioner there is zero hum from any of my amps.
Youâll get this issue at venues sometimes too. I remember playing a venue in, I think it was London, and our amps hummed so loud it was stupid. The guy at the venue tried to blame our gear. Wasnât the gear because we never had that issue anywhere else, either before or after playing that place.
@@EverythingMusicRecording Haha i was like wait a minute! But that's a good reason, the power where I live is flaky at best so that's a good tip!
Lol yea, same boat here my friend. Power here isnât great either. Wouldnât mind having an electrician add some clean lines but Iâm not at the point of bothering lol. Easier just to have power conditioners.
Wait.. You mean... You mean you don't have a coffee cup in ANY of your CZcams videos ??
Is that what you said??
Hold up let me turn off my power conditioner so I can hear you.
Lol there is almost always a coffee mug in my hands but itâs always filled with tea. I almost never drink coffee⊠so no âepic and grossly overdoneâ coffee making montages in this channelâs future!! đ
Why are they so spendy if theyre just a power strip..
sit down
drink coffee
look in camera
i am youtuber
Lol yea, probably my worst video intro. Not sure why I did that tbh.
Brother, love ya, but these are literally just power strips. Don't pay more than 20 bucks for one.... To obtain a true isolation strip, you will need to spend north of 1k (contains a transformer, etc). So, you do need to break the bank for true "conditioning" which is actually just isolation.
Except for the power bar function the rest is pretty useless. Stop inventing stuff...