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Introduction: 0:00 - 6:53
Reaction: 6:54 - 44:19
Discussion/Review: 44:20 - 52:30
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Gandalf is the same species of being as the Balrogs/Sauron before twisted by Melkor[Morgoth]. They are all Maiar (primordial spirits). Gandalf named Olórin created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will & individuality. He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age. So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf & lived among them whilst they were unknowing & he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar❤️ He could have very well dwelled with the elves far earlier just do to his curiosity & simple desire to explore and be around the firstborn (TheElves)
Gandalf The Grey/White
Estimated at 15,000 years old (following his quote "300 lives of men, I have walked this earth"), It says that Gandalf was the wisest of the Maiar besides Melian herself. There were a lot of Maiar that were considered really great and powerful.
However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) & the other Istari (the order sent around the same time & of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is & a student of the Vala by the name Nienna & Lorien(Irmo). Gandalf was a Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being & Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” & basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife and sadness and longing.
Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea “Arien” is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon. Of which that other Maia was “Tillion”
Galadriel herself not only witnessed this but as a student of Aulë and the other Valar she obviously had involvement in helping create the hallowed objects that housed the final flower of the silver tree Telperion that was the father of the moon and the mother of the sun was Laurëlin the golden tree and prior to the sun and moon they too used to wax and wane!
In the words of Scar: "You have NO idea..."
In Middle-Earth, the Wizards are similar to angels. When one dies they are just reformed into a new life, unless they die corrupted. Then they are reborn into the bowels of the earth as one of those things that he fought at the end of part 1, or similar. Their color represents their task and power. Gray wizards are the bridge between the races Middle-Earth and nature. White wizards are advisors to kings and translate the song, or will, of the creator. Something like that.
One more point is The Lord of the Rings is like a moral allegory of World War I and the rise of technology. He who holds the technology would be the master.
I wish I could join you are one of 3 channels I would if I could. I hope you loved the trilogy and I cannot wait to see it all with you. I have not seen someone mention it yet though I could have missed it. The Hobbits in this fellowship are adults yes but they are young, hobbits age slowly and these are the equivalent of 17-19-year-olds and remember they had never really been out of their home before or around anyone other than hobbits.
You know when Aragorn kicked that helmet...
😂😂😂😂😂
There was a real head inside it
It hurt like a b***h and that scream wasn’t…
😂😂
…you can hear the sound of the ocean.. 🙄
Remember that whenever you say “It’s like…” you have to remember that this is the origin of all that. Everything else is using The Lord of the Rings as their inspiration.
I'm sure they know this but they are simply relating it to what they have already seen. Had they seen LOTR first then it would have been the opposite. It's not that deep.
No, not everything else. LotR was inspired by plenty before it, which plenty of other stories are inspired by.
@@SnailHatanyep it’s a giant family tree of fantasy tropes
@alfredhitchcook4996 most things though. Tolkien created the entire fantasy genre as we know it with wizards, etc - before that elves were little tinkerbell-type creatures (and usually bad), goblins were evil mischievous gnomes and orcs didnt exist as anything like they do now which has been fairly consistent since Tolkien. The fact that most of all fantasy stories can be imagined to take place somewhere in middle earth attests to that.
@@SnailHatan Absolutely, but also there are things that exist today that would simply not exist were it not for LOTR. Dungeons and Dragons, for example, is HEAVILY inspired by LOTR.
It's funny to see Theoden, Gandalf, Aragorn, Gmili, and Legolas together and realize that Theoden is actually the youngest in the group. Gandalf looks older, but Legolas looks 20 but is actually 2000. Gmili looks the same age as Theoden but is actually 139. Aragorn is almost 90 and fought with Theoden's dad.
And Gandalf is is old as the world, having been there when it was first created.
@@SaulOhio Only in spirit form. His human form is only a few thousand years old, so Treebeard calls him "Young master Gandalf".
@@extracted225 Damn...How would Treebeard call us, then? "Prepubescent masters"?
Just guessing on Legolas’ age? That’s a hard one to figure.
@@MidnightHowling "We're no GenZs, we're boomers!" "Boomers? Sounds like prepubescent GenZ mischief to me!" He wouldn't recognize us as masters.
26:06 I’ve easily seen this movie over 100 times but never considered how powerful it is that Gollum says “me” instead of “us” in this moment! I love it! Thanks Pudgy!
I noticed on a recent rewatch the pairing of two "naming" scenes. Smeagol's name is returned to him in one scene, and then in the very next scene Gandalf has HIS name returned to him. I'm not entirely sure why that's significant, but I feel like it is.
Alot of injuries from making that film the passion was real
Yeah, same here. I love watching new people reacting to LOTR because you can always pick up something interesting like this little detail.
So about Gandalf returning. This is not really explained well in the movie but wizards in this world are not just old wise humans who learned magic, they are something called Maiar. The Maiar are essentially lesser gods or angels and some of them took physical form long ago to walk middle earth with the mortals. Other than the wizards you have actually met two other Maiar, the Ballrog that Gandalf fought, and Sauron himself.
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and the 2 blue wizards that were pulling strings in the background
@@swishnflick638 which is....debatable, to say the least
Also Saruman.
@@iremainteague5653 ... "Other than the wizards"
Boromir's last line to Aragorn (Strider) that you were trying to remember was;
"I would have followed you my Brother,
My Captain,
My King."
This line is also really important when you juxtapose it with what Boromir said to Aragorn when he first learns about his identity back at the council of Elrond which is;
"Gondor has no King... Gondor needs no King."
Really shows the character development between these two.
Well, he heard the last people that betrayed Gondor's king became those ghosts forever and he wasn't gonna risk it xD
@@Saphthings😂
That scene is so good. Heartstrings
Top 5 best scenes in the trilogy.
Agreed
Fun fact: The scenes where Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas is chasing the Uruk Hai into Rohan, all 3 actors had injuries while shooting the scenes. Gimli had a dislocated knee, Legolas had 2 broken ribs and Aragorn 2 broken toes....and the actors still did the shoots. Insane legends! Especially John who plays Gimli because he was much older then the other guys!
Another fun fact: Despite being shown in the movie barely keeping up with Legolas and Aragorn, in the books Gimli is implied to be the best long distance runner of the group because dwarves have crazy stamina. Before the chase, Aragorn says, "we shall all need the endurance of Dwarves."
Quick correction: the Gimli we see running is Brett Beattie, the scale double, not John Rhys Davies.
And 'Legolas' had had a severe back injury like a year before.
@@gwolfstahl I think you might be confusing the timeline a bit....Orlando Bloom had that severe back injury when he was 19. He was 22 when they started filming.
it's stories like that that explain why film studios tend to use "green screens" instead of locations
There's something more than a little sad in the manner of Gandalf's return. Gandalf the Grey had been among mortals for thousands of years, and he was a gentler, more curious, more humane version of himself. He seemed to enjoy rambling around like that, and I think that's part of why he was so reluctant to go near the depths of Moria. When he was brought back as Gandalf the White, he gained the full power that Saruman squandered, but he was also a little colder, a little harder, a more stern and authoritative being. Like an angel sent down to make war.
'Dangerous!' cried Gandalf. 'And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord.
Gives me chills every time I reread the books. He used to be the god of wisdom. Now he's the god of war.
Fun fact, the type of being that Gandalf is can only manifest in a certain form in Middle Earth at a time, with a fixed amount of power in relation to it. Gandalf The Grey did in fact die and was reborn into a brand new being and form, based on the original form that he had taken due to his affinity and love for his past life as Gandalf.
If you read the books he was the one pushing to go to Moria. Gandalf was initially sent to middle earth with less of his Miar power because the purpose of them being sent wasn’t to intervene. He was sent back by Eru Iluvatar with more power than he was initially sent with especially since the head of their Order aka Saruman was corrupted by power.
@@TerralventheHe wasn’t reborn. His spirit just got sent back by Eru Iluvatar and he was allowed to have more power then he was initially sent with. Especially since the head of the Maiar that were sent (Saruman) had become corrupted by power and the rest forgot their task. So Orion got a little more of his Maiar power since Eru deemed it necessary. If you actually read the books you would know he awoke where he had fallen. It’s still Gandalf just a little more of his Maiar power. He wasn’t “reborn into a brand new bing” it’s still Orion. I would suggest reading the books
@@monty5339 I did read the books. I would suggest learning what paraphrasing is.
That IS Billy Butcher!! Karl Urban is one of the most underrated actors ever.
He has been in so many good movies. Even less known ones like Ghost Ship and Doom
Dredd is still my favorite role of his
I absolutely love that they got the actor playing Denethor to be Butcher's father in the Boys, felt like a little lotr reunion
Karl Urban was also Dr. McCoy in the Star Trek movies! So versatile!
@@jeremyrfritz Dredd was pretty good!
Bilbo is actually Frodo's uncle. Bilbo took him in when Frodo was orphaned.
A courtesy uncle. Genealogies are very important to Hobbits (hence Pippin's explanation of his relationship to Frodo at the Prancing Pony, in FOTR). Actually, "You see, Mr. Drogo, he married poor Miss Primula Brandybuck. She was our Mr. Bilbo's first cousin on the mother's side (her mother being the youngest of the Old Took's daughters); and Mr. Drogo was his second cousin. So Mr. Frodo is his first *and* second cousin, once removed either way, as the saying is, if you follow me."
While he does call him uncle, Bilbo is actually Frodo's Second Cousin once removed on his father's side and his First Cousin once removed on his mother's side. That being said, uncle/aunt is often used by people to refer to older, more distant relatives or family friends.
Also, Frodo's father is named Drogo which very well might be the influence behind naming a certain Khal in another epic fantasy series we already know.
@@HaythamKenway383Does he actually call him "Uncle" in the book? I'm currently at the doors of Moria in the book, and I can't even remember him calling Bilbo "Uncle".
I can only remember it being explained that they were distant cousins.
@@Gutslinger I honestly can't remember. I believe Frodo calling him uncle is a movie invention, but now I'm trying to remember if he ever calls him "Uncle Bilbo" in the movies.
I don’t know if anyone has said this yet but the ring worn by Aragorn was the Ring of Barahir, an ancient heirloom given to a famous ancestor of Aragorn in the First Age of Middle Earth by Finrod Felagund, a brother of Galadriel and a symbol of friendship between Elves and Men.
Wasn't the ring also worn by Beren and Elrond's brother - Elros (who was king of Númenor)?
@@galaxydeathskrill5607Yes, if I remember correctly.
@@galaxydeathskrill5607 yup, Beren as the son of Barahir had it as an heirloom and actually used it to get Finrods support on his journey to get a Silmaril from Morgoth, so he could earn Thingols support for the hand of his daughter Luthien :)) (...which ended up leading to Finrods death when he sacrificed himself for Beren, but anyway)
And then the ring just continued down the line - to Dior, then Elwing, then Elros, the kings of Numenor, lords of oh god i forgot the name of that province, adunie or smth, and then elendil, isildur, kings of arnor, kings of arthedain, chieftains of the dunedain ---> aragorn
That's why I enjoy LOTR reactions! Always something new to learn.
Thank you, Men (as in age of Man).
@@galaxydeathskrill5607 speaking of Elrond; Check out The Red Book regarding the title accidental twins. You’ll be amazed at the depths.
Pudgey nailed it exactly with frodos attitude to gollum.
Frodo was effectively looking at his future if he can’t destroy the ring. That line “I have to believe he can come back.” I always feel like he’s not only referring to gollum at that point. He has to imagine it’s possible to resist the ring. Otherwise, his resolve would break as he thinks he’s walking into either failure and death, or failure, and a doomed existence as a creature twisted by the ring like gollum.
i always hate how people hate frodo for this reason. They forget how good a person he is before the ring starts to corrupt him and appreciate how much he struggles with it and keeps trying
Canonically nobody can destroy the ring, not even Sauron. The fact that Frodo saved Gollum is the only reason the ring was destroyed in the end.
@@ianirwin9480 Yeah. The Ring's corruption is amplified the closer it is to Mount Doom, so when you actually get to the Cracks of Doom literally nobody would be able to willfully throw it in. That's the whole point. Neither Isildur nor Frodo are lesser people for being dominated in this moment. The only way the Ring could have been destroyed is the way it was, by accident. But Frodo getting it to the location alone was a superhuman level of willpower.
Hobbits really are amazing creatures, as I have said before. You can learn all that there is to know about their ways in a month, and yet after a hundred years they can still surprise you at a pinch.
14:00 the orcs knew Aragorn. Or at least would have known Strider. And totally would have been scared of him. Aragorn is one of the Dunedain, an old race of Men descended from great Numenor, Men who waged war against Sauron and his orcs for hundreds of years.
On top of that, Aragorn is the Chieftain of the Dunedain, he’s supposed to be really tall, and (at least in the books) he carries the Sword of Elendil reforged which the orcs would recognize. He’s sort of been mythologized by the orcs. He’s the monster orcs tell little orcs about at bedtime.
Tolkien loved to emphasize the nature of characters. It’s not that wizards know magic, it’s that the nature of their being is magical and powerful. The nature of Aragorn’s being is that of a king, and a powerful enemy of orcs and all that is evil in the world. I’d bet any orcs in the room would recognize that.
@@joshwhite1606 exactly. The books point this out at the Bridge of Khazad Dum, when Gandalf announces himself as “You cannot pass! I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the Flame of Anor!” it says that “the orcs stood still.” They’re recognizing the inherent might and power of who they’re facing.
@@BlyatBlaster It's also why when Frodo puts on the ring, Aragorn and the elves glow darkness, and the ring wraiths are white. it's a hint at their spiritual being.
@@BlyatBlaster "Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks."
Little tidbit I want to add is that in the books the Urukhai brag to the Mordor and Moria orcs that they were the ones who defeated the mighty warrior (Boromir), so it is shown that the orcs acknowledge and immortalise their notable enemies within their own mythos and cultural memory. The Silmarillion also expands on this a bit.
39:40 The reason why Frodo snapped at Sam is that Sam didn't realize that by condemning Smeagol/Gollum, he was also doing the same to Frodo without realizing it. If Smeagol can't come back, then neither can Frodo. He was desperately trying to keep hope while the ring was wearing him down. Then the ring used those emotions to inflame them against Sam.
I hope they're just as understanding with Frodo's situation as much as they were with Boromir
The Ring of Barahir that Aragorn wears originally belonged to Galadriels brother Finrod. He gave it to Aragorns ancestor Barahir when Barahir saved Finrod life. It’s one of the symbols of the House of Elendil like the Sword That Was Broken, The Seven Seeing Stones, the Swan Crown of Gondor and the White Tree of Gondor. Which is how Saruman is able to identify Aragorn through it. It is not one of the 20 Rings of Power
Brad Dourif absolutely kills it as Grima Wormtongue. The moment between him and Eowyn is both uncomfortable but also really sad. He understands her actual fears and dreams. He uses that against her. Was his idea to shave his eyebrows off to be more creepy.
Andy Serkis does Gollums voice. And it destroyed his throat. But then he also did the motion capture for the character. And he ended up being on set to actually physically act the scenes with Frodo and Sam. The VFX guys would then paint him out and have his real acting with Frodo and Sam to insert the digital character into. Painstaking work to pull that off but it means Gollum is there physically interacting with rocks and bushes and the characters.
You really should watch the extended behind the scenes. You'll see this movie in a whole new light. They poured so much effort and love into them. Everyone gave 150%, blood sweat and tears for years.
And did 3 other characters like that. Ceasar, kong and character of Tim Tim
@williamerazo3921 yeah he really pioneered the whole field of performance capture. And is arguably the best at it still. He throws so much of himself into it every time it just really sells the characters they turn him into.
I remember in the appendices it was mentioned that he never dropped his fake British accent until the shooting had ended (in order to not lose it/confuse it) and when he started talking in his regular (American) accent a lot of the other actors were wigging out because they hadn't realized he hadn't been using his native accent.
You oughta see him with a .357 magnum. He’s awesome.
In the appendices Brad talks about his girlfriend and his reaction to shaving off his eyebrows. Definitely not his idea to do it as he was not pleased and the girlfriend even less so. Yet, he was a good sport about it and did not whine about it, just told the story.
The shot of Gandalf and the Balrog falling in the distance is probably my favorite from this movie. It just screams "fantasy epic".
Pulls away to near silence, but those voices... just these movies are unmatched...
LOL to me it screams JERK IS SOLOING THE BOSS!!!. Yeah I am a gamer.
For me it's him super charging the sword then fuckin lightning blast into the Balrog's black heart.
@@NathanS__ Yea, that is extremely "epic fantasy" as well. I can't think of how many pictures I saw as a kid playing D&D where someone had either a flaming sword (which the Balrog has) or a sword being "powered up" by lightning! Note, these D&D playing days took place in the 90s before LotR came out, so those ideas just somehow permeated the fantasy zeitgeist separate from the films.
But yes, I 100% agree the lightning sword part is on par with the fall.
@@jona.scholt4362You know the books came out in the Fifties, right? LotR was basically the inspiration for much of the original D&D.
What you always should remember, Tolkien fought in the western front in the great war, dead marshes...ypres.
He understood the horror of war and it's consequences
Yup. And if ONE thing he let be a willing allegory vice is to NOT glorify war. Many he knew didn’t know what they were getting into with WWI and man…oh man…. 😢
Ive always thought, as a combat veteran myself, that there were so many themes familiar to war vets in LOTR that Jackson actually does a good job of picking up on and showing in the movies. In particular the situation the hobbits find at the end of Return of the King when they come home and have to adjust to coming back to a mundane life with people who could never understand what theyve gone through but finding companionship with those they went on the journey with, the scene of them in the Green Dragon sharing drinks was particularly poignant. Even Sam's newfound courage to go talk to Rosie feels right lol. "I went to Mount Doom, killed Orcs, and fought off bloody Shelob, I can go talk to a girl at a bar ffs". Frodos struggles with his "wound that never heals" I always believed was Tolkiens nod to a comrade struggling with what we know as PTSD today and Ill be honest his leaving could be a reference to the same persons dying releasing him from his lifelong pain that men at the time had no recourse for.
he was on the front line or he was an officer and chill in the back?
@@Mrfailstandstil he was an officer and also on the front lines. He saw personal combat in the Battle of the Somme, one of the bloodiest of the war. Lower ranking officers were absolutely in the trenches and still today, at least in NATO armies, fight amongst their men. Your only considered too high ranking for direct combat duty when youve hit maybe Lieutenant Colonel or especially Colonel status.
@@gurnsey1621 got it tnx!
Andy Serkis' performance as Gollum in this movie is so great. The CGI for Gollum still holds up 20 years later as well.
They didn't need prefect CGI, they just needed to use the tools they had to make a convincing character on screen. CGI is technically better these days, but to this day, Gollum, Jurassic Park's T-Rex, and the T-1000 terminator hold up just as well as any modern cgi characters.
I like to believe that whenever you see some great CGI character performance, you can somehow trace it back to Andy Serkis... Benedict Cumberbatch taking guidance from Serkis for Smaug, his own performance as Caesar and while I haven't watched the movie, there's also bound to be some great stuff in Mowgli
I loved the "Did you know about Aragorns toe!?" edit 😂
Dwarves were created to have stamina and constitution far superior to the other races, Aragorn was the one in the original story that had trouble keeping up and required short rests, but still people were amazed by the run and said there would be songs written about the dwarf that ran 135 miles in 72 hours 🙂
Gimli was my fav character in the books and it kind of felt sad that they made the benevolent, fierce warrior into a comic relief 🤪
Since u have seen that Gandalf is not just a normal magic using man, he is a Maiar, kind of like a lesser eternal spirit that was sent to earth by the greater spirits that created the world.. he was sent back stronger than before and was white because Saruman had failed his purpose as the white.. Gandalfs true name is Olórin, he was not supposed to intervene in the doings of those living in middle earth, he was just there to guide them
Gandalf was dead for about 20 days and each day was as long as a human life on earth, so about 1400 years which is why he hardly remembered that he once was called Gandalf
Sorry for a little ramble, tried to keep it short, this is my favourite story since I read the books when I was a little 12 y.o kid ❤
Thank you, I didn't know that.
Feel free to ramble, I like to learn new things about LOTR ^^
That editing comment about Aragorns toe was gold, because we all know it's going to be brought up multiple times when someone reacts to this movie 😂😂😂
How about a other lesser know one then!
In the first movie, when Gandalf visits Bilbo, after Bilbo ran of with Gandalf's staff and hat, Sir Ian turned around and banged his head. That was not in the script, but because he kept on acting like Gandalf it was kept!
And that's why we have a slightly clumsy Gandalf going "Oooooh!" after bumping his head :p
Someday I'm gonna be the first to comment that Aragorn trivia. Everytime I go to a reaction video there's already hundreds that have beaten me to it.
@@One.Zero.One101 Do a reaction video yourself, set it to private, comment on it, set in to public, comment on the comment: "first!" - win! ;-)
The thing I love most about how deep LOTR lore can be is when you hear random names or words in dialogue, but it feels so natural and grounded in the world that it just works.
Numenor, Dunedain, Riddermark, etc...
Tolkien didn't write a story, he built a world
Giving back the shattered Anglo Saxon mythologies as well as shine a light on the others as well from Finland. Wales. Ireland and Norway etc. Iceland too. Heck. Even stuff from India as well. He was very sad about what happened with the Norman war
Tolkien was a worldbuilder - and really it was just an excuse to make languages. Story is third, which is remarkable
@@PLF...
Tolkien was a writer second, and a Professor of Philology first. He was also fascinated by ancient cultures, their customs and traditions, etc.
The Dead Marshes: Tolkien's PTSD brought to life. In the Battle of the Somme on the Western Front in WW1, No Man's Land (the space between the opposing sides' trenches) was littered with artillery craters and dead bodies. Whenever it rained heavily, the craters would fill with water, and the bodies would float to the surface, creating a grizzly scene through the mist and smoke. "Don't follow the lights." The Will-O-Wisps or Corpse Lights of Anglo-Saxon mythology. These eerie lights could be seen in and around British marshlands and were said to lure unsuspecting wanderers and travelers into a bog to their death.
Another "DiD yOu KnOw?" part is, when the party arrives in Edoras and Eowyn is looking out to the horizon. Rohan's tattered flag is ripped off the pole by the wind. That wasn't a planned event but it was kept in because of how fitting it was to the scene
8:03 "this man's a freaking god"
Closer to the truth than you might think
Wow, Pudgey is very perceptive! I am a massive LOTR fan; have seen the trillogy dozens of times and these are my favorite movies of all time - but I have never noticed that detail about Gollum saying "What did you call ME?" when Frodo first calls him Smeagol. As if the mere mention of his real name after so much time, almost immediatelly jolted him back away from corruption, even if just a tiny bit. That is a massivelly important detail that I never picked up on! :D Kudos Pudgey!
A staple of the fantasy genre is the power of a true name.
They've both seen the movies before, they're just pretending they haven't to make reaction videos for their channel lol. I don't believe for a second she really related Eomer to Karl Urban in The Boyz that quickly without already knowing he was in it.
Yes! this was the first time, after Pudgey pointed it out, that he says ME instead of US. Like Frodo addressed one of the two personalities. So interesting. Love it.
So true, and so subtle in Tolkien (unlike the Earthsea novels by le Guinn). In the books, the scene on Weathertop, Frodo manages to push back the Nazgul by merely speaking a prayer to Elbereth as he stabs the witch king with his blade. Aragorn even says it directly: Invoking the name of Varda was more deadly to the witch king then Frodo's blade.
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@@leesin666not everyone has face blindness. I didn’t notice it when I watched the movies but it’s not unbelievable in the slightest.
Andy Serkis, who played Gollum, is a treasure. During covid he live streamed a complete reading of The Hobbit for charity. He has also received a lifetime achievement oscar for his motion capture work.
He received a Bafta award, not an Oscar unfortunately.
Heres an aragorn story for you. Viggo Mortensen, who plays aragorn, loved the horse that played Brego so much he bought him and took him home to his ranch in the USA. That horse passed away a few months ago.
The people sam and frodo ran into are rangers, like aragorn. Aragorn led the rangers of the destroyed kingdom of Arnor, which is the kingdom of the numenor north of the shire - destroyed by the witch king, first of the nazgul. The rangers of arnor keep orcs and evil out of the shire, which is the northern-most border of whats left of middle earth. Thats also how aragorn knew about frodo and the ring. The rangers of the south are rangers from gondor - also numenoreans - who protect gondor from mordor. Aragorn is the heir to the throne of Arnor and Gondor.
He also bought several other people their horse. The documentaries are endless hours worth of amazingness
Elvish rope is special. It's not that Sam doesn't know how to tie a knot, it's rope which knows when to untie. As a side effect, it burns Gollum's neck (probably because he had ring for so long).
Elvish cloak is special. It can hide you in a way that no one will find you even when they stood next to you.
Call it elvish magic, if you like. Or maybe elves are just so good in their craft... On the other hand, they are also sort of a magic race.
Sam is particularly proud of his knot-tying ability, telling Frodo that he learned it from his Uncle Andy, who I believe made rope as a trade. He even told the elves that he was interested in their ropemaking craft and would have liked to have learned it.
Yeah I always assumed the elvish purity hurt gollum cause his entire being was so corrupted by the ring. Like how the Nazgûl didn’t want to cross the boundaries of Rivendell cause they understood the power there
@@Catherine.Dorian. I think the rope also "knew" that Gollum was being held as a prisoner and if he tried to remove it or resist it would punish him by burning more.
@@ronweber1402 Ooh good point!
I had always assumed that Gollum was lying about the rope burning him just because he wanted sympathy from the Hobbits.
Aragorn: "I do not know what strength is in my blood, but I swear to you I will not let the White City fall, nor our people fail."
Boromir: "Our people... Our people. I would've followed you my brother. My captain. My King."
Aragorn: "Be at peace, son of Gondor."
His name is Peregrin Took - Took is his surname, but he is almost never referred to by that (except the time Gandalf was really annoyed with him).
Everyone calls him "Pippin". He's the youngest of the hobbits.
Gandalf disbanded the hunting party and 1v1 a high-level boss to hoard all the EXP for himself. Dude leveled up so much he rose to the next class/job-tier, from Grey Wizard to White Wizard 😂
Yeah the others could have been Frodo the White, etc but noo.
he really wanted to take all the loot for himself XD
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Although I didn't kick a helmet, I broke a toe yesterday. Hurt like a mofo. That scream is relatable.
I kicked the bottom of my stairs once then I did that dumb pacing up and down thing for 5 mins (like it helps) then i felt the hurt, I was scared to look down cos I was convinced that my little toe would be pointing in a different direction, luckily I'd only broke it regularly 😂
just here to wish you a speedy recovery ;^) 👍
I’ve done that. Instant collapse
Be sure to tape it around the next unbroken toe to stabilize it and take Ibuprofen or another anti-inflammatory.
Wishing you a swift recovery!
I kicked someone's shin once and broke my toe.
Right across the knuckle!
"Fun" fact: Tolkien was a WWI veteran that fought in the Battle of the Somme: a six-month meat grinder of a battle that took place in the summer and autumn months of 1916 in the south of France, and whose result was ultimately pointless. The Dead Marshes are probably inspired by that battle, since it was described as a hellish wasteland of mud and water, filled with mangled and floating corpses.
EDIT: just to give you an idea of the loss of life of that battle, in the first day alone the British forces and their allies suffered 20k dead and over 590k losses. By the end of the battle, the British dead alone were 620k, with over 450k losses on the German side.
Yeah....we know. He broke the helmet ;)
@@larsottosen8970 I think you responded to wrong comment :D
@@Lodrigues1 yes I did....I got too excited ;)
The first mechanized war. The introduction of the machine gun. Aerial combat, bombs from above. The last time horses were used in combat.
It was an extremely bloody dawn to a whole new age.
Edit: I originally misspelled the word "aerial" and I had to go back and correct it because some people are, you know...aseholes.
Check out Sabaton's cover of Motorheads song, 1916. Its about the Battle of the Somme.
Not only did Viggo Mortensen broke two toes when he kicked the helmet, he had to run through Rohan with his broken toes (though you can't see it in the film, he diguised the pain very well until cut was yelled). Mortensen wasn't the only one. Orlando Bloom (Legolas) and Brett Beattie (Gimli's scale and stunt double) were also injured when they did this, Bloom fell off his horse during the Warg Attack and cracked his ribs and Beattie dislocated his knee, so all three ran through Rohan in pain. Peter Jackson refered the trio as The Walking Wounded.
"I would have followed you my brother, my captain... my King." So many touching lines throughout the trilogy, but this is up there with the best of them.
Gandalfs race is more like "Angel" in the tolkien universe. They are sent to guide the people of middle earth but since Saruman turned his back on his purpose Gandalf had to be upgraded and sent back down. Also, Aragorn is technically the many times great nephew of the elf ruler Elrond. Elronds' family was of half-elves who were given the ability to choose to stay immortal or to become mortal. Elronds' brother Elros chose to become a mortal and founded the first kingdom of man. Aragorn is a direct decendant of him. That's why he has an extended lifespan.
Those giant elephants were the elephants that Cersei was expecting but didn't get lol
I love how much you love Gollum. I've seen a lot of reactors to LOTR but I think you two are the only ones so far that I've seen that loved Gollum this much. I loved Gollum as a character too and he's one of the most iconic LOTR characters for movie goers after seeing the movie.
Gollum is our little problem child. 🤣
I have always hated Gollum, he is everything Sams says and oh so much more. He is so vile and evil that even orcs and goblins call him evil.
No he’s not? He’s a complex character and your oversimplification of him is bizarre. He’s trying to deal with his trauma and the lapses he has are incited by very understandable situations
@@SidV101 Gollum eats babies, actively going out of his way to do so. Gollum is not complicated he is evil has always been evil, even before the ring he was outcast for his behavior and the only person who did anything with him he killed. Tolkien's point was even those who are completely beyond redemption should be shown mercy. The message to the reader is "be the better person". Show mercy and compassion because you never know what role that evil person will have in changing the world.
An example that Tolkien saw first hand. Hitler, a man so vile and evil his name invokes hatred. Yet his actions led to the creation of the Nation of Israel, the collapse of the imperial nations, and so many other wonderful things.
We do not praise Hitler for that but we must acknowledge his evil actions led the world to be a better place overall. His evil led others to embrace the good and to actively work to improve both politics and society. It was not the goal of that evil man to do that, but like Gollum his desire, his greed, his lack of compassion, his total focus on getting the ring back led to the destruction of the ring, because Frodo at the end failed, the evil had seduced him. Tolkien was acutely aware of the temptations of evil and saw it all around him. He saw the seductiveness of the fanatical authoritarian leftist politics of Europe after the first world war grow, and spread like a virus corrupting all it touched. He feared that it would seduce freedom loving people to embrace the tactics and tools of the enemy. Just as Frodo at the end embraced the ring.
@@VadulTharys Do you really think orcs and goblins are good judges of character? Imagine 500 years of the One Ring poisoning your mind and there's still some shed of desire to change go "go for the light". He's a complex character and represents what Frodo could have become so there's more layer to his character than just "evil". Plus, he can be quite cute and that's why people love him and found him memorable.
I love how well you react to Gollum's character design. It shows that the creators at WETA and Andy Serkis got it EXACTLY right: he's supposed to be ugly and creepy, but also inspire pity. You're supposed to see that he's a complex character, driven and twisted by the force of the ring, definitely with a split personality, but also a potential for redemption. It's very gratifying to see this come across to a novice audience.
I also enjoy how you are picking up on the increased density of nerd references as something you don't quite comprehend because Tolkien's legendarium is just so densely packed that they couldn't explain every little thing, like what Gandalf really is - Pudgy did get it right by coincidence: he is indeed a minor deity - or how elven cloaks work to conceal their wearers.
Andy Serkis as Gollum has to be one of the most remarkable performances in the history of cinema. Top notch CG too, especially for the era. It's an incredible achievement just how believable the character is.
Fun fact. When you said this has to be peak fantasy; Tolkien, the writer of the books that these movies adapt, is considered the father of modern fantasy, with his intense world-building and lore development.
Pudgey’s reaction when Gandalf returned was exactly what I was waiting for since they saw Moria and she cried Lol. I knew she’d be ecstatic
To answer Spartan saying he didn’t understand the time space thing. This is where the books help with context.
Gandalf and the wizards are basically Angels sent by the main God of middle earth to help guide the people in the right direction. They’re extremely powerful but take the forms of old men and reign their own power back and use their wisdom and words to help the peoples of middle earth. That’s their purpose and why you see Gandalf only use his power sparingly.
Basically, Gandalf’s physical body dies after that fight with the Balrog and he’s sent back to what’s basically heaven, in his normal angel/godlike form. Illuvitar (God) basically tells him “your task isn’t complete” after seeing how corrupted Saruman got and how the other 2 wizards sent just abandoned the task entirely, Gandalf was the only one to do what they were sent there to do and Illuvitar was not going to lose that. So he sends Gandalf back as the highest rank/power level of white wizard, usurping Saruman and basically exiling him as well as in the books Saruman had already declared himself “Saruman of Many Colors”.
Basically Gandalf got sent back by God with a new, more powerful body and told to complete his task of helping the free peoples of middle earth win against Sauron.
Angela did what?!
@@Saphthings fixed it lol
Glad I read forward. I was going to elaborate. Eru LLuvitar is God in Tolkien lore. The Silmarillion decribes in depth the hierarchy of ethereal beings. Maiar like Gandalf being the lowest rank that were sent to middle earth to guide the people.
@@generoberts9151 could go on for hours about all the lore behind them but I tried to keep it as simple as possible without writing the entire Silmarillion out in my comment lol. You're 100% right
@@RaceZeus Simple? My ADD was seriously being tested😬
So Saruman's Uruk-hai (half orcs) are his short cut to get what Sauron's darwinian orc breeding has done with the Uruk, the black orcs of Mordor that are the larger, stronger smarter orcs that are the backbone of his army (you'll see these guys leaving Minas Morgul in Return of the King.) Something to remember is Orcs are all descended from a VERY small population of Elves captured by Morgoth and corrupted. A lot of their traits and deformities are the result of centuries of inbreeding. Sauron used internal warfare to both give his orcs experiance in fighting but to weed out the deformed and weak, breeding the best engineer the Uruk. Saruman, took a short cut and used sorcery to cross Orcs with the Wild Men of Rohan. This removed much of the inbreeding damage of both and got him his 'fighting Uruk-hai' who are physically nearly equal to the Uruk.
31:08 those elven gifts have some special tricks...remember galadriel said "may these cloaks shield you from unfriendly eyes"...also, that's why the elvish rope was also easy to untangle...
Oh you must be watching the theatrical release. In the extended ver the gift scene with galadriel was more detailed.
I love how Spartan picks up the landscape variety thing, because that was one of the most important things about Tolkien, the author, and his love for nature, landscapes and the grand journeys, adventuring through it. In fact, he was so descriptive of nature and landscapes that some people find it too much sometimes 😂.
It's also amazing how the films managed to convey this to the audience, making it one of the definite strengths of the trilogy, spending months and months scouting for suitable places to shoot in pre-production and using the shots to create a feeling of a huge, expansive, stunning world for Middle-Earth, immersing and enchanting everyone in it, just as professor Tolkien intended!
Every new day starts with a description of the dozen or so flowers and trees they pass...
When reading through if I don't have internet handy I can't lookup wtf all these geography/fauna terms are. When I do though, it's nice to learn lol
@@LankanLatino Well, you're proof of my theory that many people who can't read these books are in part because, as modern day city people, they have no idea of most of these nature aspects or how they look like and feel kind of disconnected when he starts going into these long winded descriptions , which I personally find very immersive btw.
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@@limegreensquidthis gets me so excited. I am on chapter 1 yet
@@galaxydeathskrill5607 listen to Andy Serkis read them to you or try channels like Phoenix Cast too. I can send you links to others too!
The orcs absolutely talked in the first one. When birthed and asked who they serve - "Saruman".
When they finally caught up with the Fellowship, the leader yelled "Find the Halflings!"
"What orders from Mordor, my lord?"
is this line supposed to rhyme this much
They didn't talk much or have many personalities. That's what he was picking up on.
Don't forget the iconic "What orders from Mordor, my Lord? What does the Eye command?"
16:56 Eomer is, in fact, played by Karl Urban, who also plays Billy Butcher in "The Boys". He also played "Bones" McCoy in the newer "Star Trek" movies.
What I heard Pudgey say about the Frodo nightmare is just that- Frodo is having a nightmare about Gandalf's fall. We as "the outside audience" get to see the actual events of the fall, where Frodo is simply having a "what if" style nightmare about the fall.
You aren’t too far off calling Gandalf a god. He is a Maiar….The closest thing you can equate that to in our world is he’s an Angel. He’s extremely powerful but rarely chooses to use his power directly. Gandalf uses his influence to motivate and inspire people to do the things themselves.
The Wizards were intentionally banned of using their true, immense maiar powers when they chose to take the their physical forms as Wizards.
@@blissfull_ignorance8454 The wizards were only banned from using their powers against 'mundane' enemies.
When facing other magical beings like the Balrog and the Nazgûls Gandalf could use more of his power.
@@MerecirGandalf waited until he was away from the fellowship to use his full power. Hence his choice to drop and follow the balrog. I mean looking at the Silmarillion you see it’s not good when the heavenly beings go up against the evil foes of the same strength. Makes a big mess
@@CrankyGrandma "Makes a big mess" is definitely one way to describe sinking a third of a continent into the sea and rearranging entire mountain ranges. 😂
@@MerecirEven then his power was still _greatly_ limited. When he came to middle-earth, all aspects of his being, power and knowledge, were greatly limited. With his _true_ power, he could possibly have defeated Sauron even if he got the ring back, but their battle would probably have destroyed the world. He doesn't have _that_ kind of power available to him as Gandalf by a long shot.
I don't know if you guys do your own editing or have someone else do it but whoever it is, is doing a great job. Cutting in the "Taking the Hobbits to Isengard" song was amazing.
A lot of people have already commented on the nature of Middle Earth wizards and Gandalf's rebirth, so I just wanted to elaborate a little bit on that. Each of the wizards was sent with a specific purpose in mind: the White Wizard was meant to be the leader of all peoples in the event of a war against darkness, and the Grey Wizard was meant to be a messenger and traveler, communicating between peoples and spreading information. One of Gandalf's other names, Mithrandir, literally means "the grey pilgrim" (he actually mentions this in a future scene), and you see him doing this constantly before the Fellowship is formed. When Saruman refuses the call to unite Middle Earth against Sauron and Gandalf dies, Gandalf is reborn as a new White Wizard to take Saruman's place, and you see his demeanor change subtly as a result. He's less of the wise old grandfather with tales and advice to dispense (though he does still do some of that), and more of a commander and tactician, constantly issuing orders and planning ahead of the enemy. It's very subtle, but on repeated rewatches it's very clear that Ian McKellen plays Gandalf the White a bit younger, sterner, and more forceful.
My first time watching this couple ... impressive Pudgey is picking up clues most people dont see on the first viewing and making subtle plot connections.
You guys probably havent heard this, but did you know that when aragorn kicked that helmet, the actor actually broke his toe!
To be honest, he also broke CZcams commentators. Foreva.
They literally had the meme cut into their reaction :D
Everyone who watched this movie heard about it, and everyone heard that every now and then there is a person who reminds about it.
fuck i was to slow :D
WHAT!? 😆
"I wish it need not have happened in my time" - " All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us"- Gandalf This is the most important line. I hope you didn't missed it...😱😲
35:28 - one of the great things about the books, which Peter Jackson managed to capture a few times in the movies, is the theme of "pity", or unmerited kindness, ultimately coming back to have unexpected and often beneficial consequences. Gandalf mentioned to Frodo how pity stayed Bilbo's hand from slaying Gollum, for example, and six decades after he was spared, Gollum/Smeagol is serving as guide, and occasional rescuer, to Bilbo's heir in the most dangerous parts of Middle Earth. Here at 35:28, Aragorn intervenes, essentially reminding Theoden of his better nature, and in doing so is practicing this theme of pity.
Oh yes, Gandalf falling into the abyss to fight the Balrog (for 10 days straight btw) is still moving to me after hundreds of times, I still tear up when I see it. In fact, the intros to all three of these movies are 10/10 highly emotional and just wonderful in general.
I remember being around 20 years old when these came out in the theater. It was REALLY painful to have to wait between movies - I was so eager to see what happened next.
Hey guys. I read all of Tolkien’s books (even the most obscure essays) several times and watched the films probably at least 40 times. So I don’t usually watch LoTR reaction videos because it’s old news by now. But your video just popped up in my recommendations for no reason, and I watched all three you posted so far. Idk why, but your reactions are so endearing to me, and I am so glad that you are genuinely enjoying the material ❤
The seeing stones palantíri we're ancient artifacts used to talk between rulers. Sauron ended up with one and used it to slowly poison Sarumons mind similarly to how the ring would slowly effect a person holding it.
About the Ring of Barahir: It once was owned by elven king Finrod in the First Age and he gave it to human man Barahir as a thank you for saving his life and he passed it on to his son Beren (who'd eventually marry half-elf/half Maia Lúthien of Doriath) and it was became the heirloom of the royal line of Numénor and Gondor, through Isildur and Aragorn inherited it from his father Arathorn (though given by his foster-father Elrond when he became old enough).
Treebeard's character is based on Tolkien's friend, C.S. Lewis, who wrote the Chronicles of Narnia. The actor portraying Treebeard is hthe same one playing Gimli, John Rhys-DAvies who was in teh Indiana Jones movies. The bodies in the dead marshes are from the battle depicted in the opening scenes of Fellowship of the Ring. In the book, Sam suspects Gollum is feeding on the bodies.
And CS Lewis had earlier based Elwin Ransom in his Space Trilogy on Tolkien.
Gandalf is the same species of being as the Balrogs/Sauron before twisted by Melkor[Morgoth]. They are all Maiar (primordial spirits). Gandalf named Olórin created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will & individuality. He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age. So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf & lived among them whilst they were unknowing & he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar❤️ He could have very well dwelled with the elves far earlier just do to his curiosity & simple desire to explore and be around the firstborn (TheElves)
Gandalf The Grey/White
Estimated at 15,000 years old (following his quote "300 lives of men, I have walked this earth"), It says that Gandalf was the wisest of the Maiar besides Melian herself. There were a lot of Maiar that were considered really great and powerful.
However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) & the other Istari (the order sent around the same time & of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is & a student of the Vala by the name Nienna & Lorien(Irmo). Gandalf was a Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being & Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” & basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife and sadness and longing.
Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea “Arien” is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon. Of which that other Maia was “Tillion”
Galadriel herself not only witnessed this but as a student of Aulë and the other Valar she obviously had involvement in helping create the hallowed objects that housed the final flower of the silver tree Telperion that was the father of the moon and the mother of the sun was Laurëlin the golden tree and prior to the sun and moon they too used to wax and wane!
amazing
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Tl;dr - Gandalfs an angel
@@nickchivers9029yup. But that’s the allegorical explanation for the beginners. It’s more complex. ;)
One more fun fact: Tolkien created Middle Earth for the languages he had invented first. The books followed out of that, developing out of The Hobbit, which itself started as bedtime stories. Father of Fantasy in more ways than one.
Worth noting that he was a linguist
@@SidV101 philologist
He didn’t create fantasy. That term came out from others being inspired and continued to create more and more downgraded versions lol.
The literal DVD documentaries explained about his first writings were what became the book unfinished tales and book of lost tales. Hobbit also grew to reference much of the legendarium where Tolkien himself stated in a real life interview where he states how he has stories that he continued to write long before LOTR and The Hobbit 😂
"Father of Fantasy" my ass!
I’m 24 now and I Remember being like 7-8 years old in the movie theater watching this movie and my eyes were just glued to the screen my mom said
Try remembering back to when Gandalf discovered the Balrog was in Moria, he said to the Fellowship, "This foe is beyond any of YOU." He didn't include himself in that statement. In the lore of Tolkien's world, Gandalf, the other wizards, and Sauron as well, are basically angels.
Fun fact! The dead marshes have the spirits of the men and elves that died in that big battle against Sauron at the beginning of the Fellowship.
Yep they had been buried properly, but the river changed course over time and made marshes of the land, exposing the bodies.
They’re actually older than that, they’re from the first defeat of Sauron, before the rings were even made!
Really? I’ve never read that… where did you hear that? All I’ve heard about the dead marshes are in the year 3434 2nd age when The Silvan Elves were pushed back into the marshes by orcs and half died, and when they were buried, the marshes exposed the bodies. When the Gondorians pushed the haradrim army back into the dead marshes sometime in the 1900’s of the 3rd age , when Gollum was captured by Aragorn and taken to Mirkwood, and when Gollum guided Sam and Frodo through the dead marshes toward the end of the third age.
I’ve always thought that the dead marshes weren’t named that before the second age. Before… they were just you know… marshes.
“Looks like meats back on the menu boys!” Is probably one of my favorite moments in LotR.
i still say this when i get to my moms (my gf is a vegetarian) 🤣🤣
Definitely *Sniff sniff* "MAN FLESH!" for me :'D
I'm never quite sure how to feel about the implications of orcs being familiar with menus. Does this mean they've been to a restaurant?
So many reactors seem to not get the horrifying fact that this means orcs are cannibals. And not just "eat each other at the last resort to survive" like humans can be, but "eat each other at the first opportunity". Truly a wretched race.
Loved this! The look on the inaptly named Pudgy's face when Gandalf stepped out of the glow was priceless.
I'm sure this will be captured elsewhere in the comments, but there are already so many I'll never make it through them all, so I'm sorry for the repeat...
Many have noted that Gandalf, Saruman, and 3 others were sent to help Men, Elves, and Dwarves prevent Sauron from gaining power again.
I just want to close the loop on a couple things: first, Saruman was the nominal leader of the "team" so to speak. Imagine how angry, disgusted, heartbroken, and despairing Gandalf must've been when he learned Saruman "changed sides" in the first movie.
Second, think about Gandalf the White's words, "I am Saruman...or rather Saruman as he was meant to be". He's been sent back specifically to do what Saruman was SUPPOSED to do, lead up the effort to aid the citizens of Middle Earth in resisting Sauron's darkness...At least, that's my 2-cents-worth....
Can't wait for the next one!
One of the things I've always loved about the world of LOTR is that literally almost everything is named specifically. It gives it much more depth. Every little monolith, every type of tree, every pathway and sword and beast is named very specifically. You will continue to encounter lots more things like this. The landscapes aren't just landscapes, they have names and histories and tales and lost myths of ancient times about all of them. The five wizards are the Istari, the seeing stones or crystal balls are the Palantiri, and they have long histories and a specific number in existence, etc. The larger orcs which killed Boromir are the Uruk-Hai for instance.
Just a bit on Gandalf's death and return. Gandalf is a Maia. There is Eru Illuvitar (god) who created the universe with the Flame Imperishable (the secret fire that Gandalf wields against the Balrog). Eru created beings known as Valar and Maiar. Valar are more powerful (consider them top angels) and Maiar are still eternal spirits, but not quite as powerful as Valar (consider them lesser-angels). All five of the Istari are Maia and they were sent into middle-earth in the bodies of men to aid the free people of middle-earth in the war against Sauron some 1900 years prior to the story . Sauron is a Maia, and the original bad guy Morgoth is a Valar. When Gandalf died, either one of the Valar (such as Mandos in the Halls of Mandos) or Eru (god himself) decided that Gandalf's task was not done and seeing that Saruman was corrupted, Eru decided to send Gandalf back in the form of Saruman, so he is quite literally, Saruman as he should've been.
Props to Gimly keeping up with Legolas and Aragorn chasing after the Uruk's. He's wearing heavier armor then them, has shorter legs, and Legolas is an elf who have are naturally light of foot with good stamina and Aragorn has experience hunting and being out in the wildlands.
Very dangerous over short distances!
Great casting of John Rhys-Davies. "Bad dates"
Aragon's toe story is epic. That he held it together enough to make it part of the scene is perfect!
And notice during the trio's pursuit of the Uruk-hai, that even though Legolas is faster than Gimli, Aragorn remains in the lead by more than a couple of paces. That is why he is called "Strider."
You guys really seem to like Smeagol/Gollum; you can thank Andy Serkis for that marvelous performance! Not only the voices, but the stop motion action as well! Andy is a legend!✌️❤️
Aragorn's age is slightly changed in the films. He was 87 years old when Frodo and his companions first met him in Bree. The Three Hunters (Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli) encountered Gandalf the White in Fangorn Forest on Aragorn's eighty-eighth birthday (March 1).
It's in Fangorn forest too, where we first get a hint as to how old legolas is in comparison. He notes that the forest is ancient. So much so he himself feels young in that place, even calling Aragorn and Gimli "children".
Really loving your reactions, guys. Fwiw, “Took”’s full name is Peregrine “Pippin” Took, and his friend and cousin is Meriadoc “Merry” Brandybuck.
The Shire, where the hobbits come from, is like a small country town in that all of the families know all the other families and they have their stereotypes and legends about each other. Merry and Pippin rib each other a bit about being a Took or a Brandybuck, but they call each other by their nick-names: Merry and Pippin.
It’s funny because these are not their real names in hobbitish language. Haha.
And they're the real "teenagers" of the bunch, explaining their childish nature compared to, say, Frodo, which is already 50 canonically.
Way to double up Jimmy
Gollums throat sound is based on the cat of the actor, Andy Serkis, he said that the sound (gollum, gollum) is inspired by his cat coffing furballs and the full voice of gollum came from that.
I'm loving the little inserts by the editing team ("Taking the Hobbits to Isengard", "looks like a young Billy Butcher", blazing definitely-not-Targaryens etc), hope this continues to be a thing. Good work all round, Editing team!
Éomer absolutely IS a younger version of Billy Butcher. That’s Karl Urban.
Gandalf the White is a very serious man. To be brief, Tolkien created a huge world. The earlier Ages were literally some Clash of the Titans level battles between the gods of the world.
At this point in the story, the Elves and magic are slowly leaving the world, which is being handed over to the dominion of Men.
The five Wizards are some of these gods, much like Sauron and the Balrog, but the Wizards are confined to earthly bodies and restricted in power. The gods were essentially forbade to intervene because of the possible destruction to creation they could have, so instead, the Wizards were tasked to guide the Free People to defeat Sauron and evil.
Of the Five, Gandalf was the only one to stay true to his mission, and by sacrificing his life he proved himself worthy to “level up” and became the White Wizard-the beacon of Light for the Free People against the oncoming storm of Shadow.
Cheers guys :)
The way Gollum was animated was groundbreaking and changed movie making ever since. It’s worth your time to watch the extra “The Taming of Sméagol “ for details.
I always think theatrical version is better for newbies. Extended once someone becomes a fan. That opening to TTT is amazing! There is a ton of history and backstory that explains Aragorn’s age and who he is. Once you know it lots here makes more sense. Also in the book Frodo has a number of dreams that are more than just dreams. So Frodo in the movie did see, in a dream, what happens to Gandalf
I disagree, only because there are super important scenes in each extended cut that is missing from the theatrical cuts, such as the Gifts of Galadriel scene in Fellowship, and especially the Osgilliath flashback with Boromir and Faramir in this film. Its crazy they left out such a crucial scene
So here's something I find fun -- you've actually heard two Elvish languages, Quenya and Sindarin. Tolkien was a linguistics professor at Oxford, and one of his hobbies was constructing languages for what he called his Legendarium, the myth cycle he created for two purposes: 1) to be true British myths as opposed to the borrowed myths of other cultures, and 2) to serve as the histories of the people who spoke his invented languages. His elves were inspired by Norse myth filtered through Celtic myth and his own Catholicism -- Tolkien conceived of the elves as a highly enchanted combination of Celtic fae, Norse elves, and his concept of "Man before he ate from the Tree of Knowledge in Eden". He used to joke that he thought the phrase "cellar door" was the most beautiful sound combination he could think of and he wanted to create a language where that combination of sounds held far more weight and beauty. Quenya is his oldest Elvish language and was inspired by Swedish and Latin, while its sister tongue, Sindarin, was inspired by Welsh.
The whole myth cycle of Middle Earth was compiled and published posthumously by Tolkien's son Christopher, and it reads like the King James Bible, and I highly recommend anyone who's interested in the stories but finds reading it to be difficult to check out the audiobook narrated by Andy Serkis, the actor who played Gollum. Serkis reads it with all the dramatic weight and flair and really brings those stories alive.
Indeed. Nicely written my friend. But he’s philologist. Way higher than linguist. Linguist is way umbrella of philology ❤️
The original language was not Quenya. Sindarin is closest to the OG elves. Thingol and his other brothers that became the kings of Valinor after the great journey is how Quenya came to be. Sindar touched divinity and remained in middle earth. Heck. Even Thingol was nearly 9 ft tall. 😂
Andy also did the silmarillion live to. And also a 10 hour reading of the whole hobbit book for a charity. It’s on CZcams
Èowyn’s FULL SONG in Rohirric Eotheod language + English translation below/ Èowyn sings at Thèodred’s “funeral”•Now dear Théodred lies in darkness, most loyal of fighters. The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior; nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup, nor good hawk swing through the hall, nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard. An evil death has set forth the noble warrior
A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld
That noble cousin, who always held me dear
Now is held in darkness, enclosed.
(Now in in the language of the Èitheod)❤
Nú on théostrum licgeth Théodred se léofa
hæ´letha holdost.
ne sceal hearpan sweg wigend weccean;
ne winfæ´t gylden guma sceal healdan,
ne god hafoc geond sæ´l swingan,
ne se swifta mearh burhstede beatan.
Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended
giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende
on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære
his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost.
She sings this part in the movie: Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended
giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende
on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære
his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost.
Éowyn is only heard singing the last four lines of the song, ending with the word Bealo, which in Old English meant "evil" or "harm". The first of those lines ("Bealocwealm hafað...") originates from the epic poem Beowulf, line 2265.)
I’m so happy that you guys appreciate the struggle within gollum! So many people are instantly just like “Ew gross” or judge him very harshly but you’re both more open to seeing there are sides of his character :) Seasoned game of thrones fans understanding characters are not one dimensional 😊
THIS!
Literally none of Tolkien's characters were one dimensional. Each had good and evil in them, and even the most evil had the seeds of potential redemption in them.
PJ and crew did SUCH a good job of bringing that to life with Boromir, Gollum, and others.
@@arklytte I'm anxious of their reaction to Frodo's struggle in Mount Doom. Since, after all, the ring's influence is strongest there, and he's at the end of his limit.
Many end up hating Frodo for it or calling him weak.
Atleast at first.
that's why Gollum is my favorite character
and also because i have so much fun trying to imitate him with my friends
One thing to note for Gandalf, is the ring he wears. It is called Narya and is especially useful to Gandalf because of his efforts in helping to resist the tide of darkness and evil from Sauron. This is a quote from the LOTR wiki ( *no spoilers* ): 'It was described as having the power to inspire others to resist tyranny, domination, and despair (in other words, evoking hope from others around the wielder)' Notice how in every situation where things seem to get dire or hopeless, or people start to despair or are upset, Gandalf has an uncanny way of propping them up and giving them hope. It's such a wonderful thing to notice once you see it. Keep an eye out for this in the next movie.
And Narya is one of the three elven Rings of Power, along with Nenya, kept by Galadriel, and Vilya, kept by Elrond.
Fulfilling my promise from the last LOTR video, Vigo Mortensen actually broke his toe when he kicked that helmet.
The instrument you may be loving a lot isn’t a violin! It’s a Nordic instrument called the Hardanger fiddle! (Norwegian: hardingfele) is a traditional stringed instrument considered to be the national instrument of Norway. In modern designs, this type of fiddle is very similar to the violin, though with eight or nine strings (rather than four as on a standard violin) and thinner wood.
The F-holes of the Hardanger fiddle are distinctive, oftentimes with a more “sunken” appearance, and generally straighter edges (unlike the frilly, swirly F-holes of a violin). Four of the strings are strung and played like a violin, while the rest, named understrings or sympathetic strings, resonate under the influence of the other four. These extra strings are tuned and secured with extra pegs at the top of the scroll, effectively doubling the length of a Hardingfele scroll when compared to a violin.
The sympathetic strings, once fastened to their pegs, are funneled through a “hollow” constructed fingerboard, which is built differently than a violin’s, being slightly higher and thicker to allow for these extra strings. The resonant strings lay on the center of the special bridge, attached to extra hooks (or fine-tuners) on the tailpiece. Carved out within the center of the bridge is a smaller secondary “bridge”, or opening, designed specifically for these resonant strings to pass through. This is where the resonance is picked up & reverberated; as notes are played, the vibrations are sent through the bridge, where the sympathetics echo those notes.
• The Hardingfele’s bridge is unique compared to other bowed instruments. It is somewhat taller and wider, resulting in the strings being slightly lower and farther apart; this allows for the easy execution of double-stops (playing of two strings at once). A similar technique is seen in some American old-time and bluegrass fiddlers, who intentionally move their bridge back a few millimetres closer to the tailpiece, for better double-stops.
The hardingfele is used mainly in the southwest part of Norway, whereas the ordinary violin (called flatfele, 'flat fiddle', or vanlig fele, 'common fiddle') is found elsewhere. The hardingfele is used for dancing, accompanied by rhythmic loud foot stomping. It was also traditional for the fiddler to lead the bridal procession to the church.
The instrument is often highly decorated, with a carved animal (usually a dragon or the Lion of Norway) or a carved woman's head as part of the scroll at the top of the pegbox, extensive mother of pearl inlay on the tailpiece and fingerboard, and black ink decorations called 'rosing' on the body of the instrument. Sometimes pieces of bone are used to decorate the pegs and the edges of the instrument.
The earliest known example of the hardingfele is from 1651, made by Ole Jonsen Jaastad in Hardanger, Norway. Originally, the instrument had a rounder, narrower body. Around the year 1850, the modern layout with a body much like the violin became the norm.
The instrument is often highly decorated, with a carved animal (usually a dragon or the Lion of Norway) or a carved woman's head as part of the scroll at the top of the pegbox, extensive mother of pearl inlay on the tailpiece and fingerboard, and black ink decorations called 'rosing' on the body of the instrument. Sometimes pieces of bone are used to decorate the pegs and the edges of the instrument.
@@SidV101 come again?
How the heck did I put my info twice in the same comment? Sorry folks. I’ll try and edit it
One of the great things about the world that Tolkien created is the sheer depth and history of it. Creating that world was actually his primary ambition and activity. The stories were written to take place in that world rather than the world being created as a background for the stories as it is in most book series. He spent most of his life developing, changing, altering and refining it and he never really finished it.
I'm sure someone mentioned it in previous comments. Gandalf appears as an "old man"...but is actually an "angelic" being in Tolkien's mythology. Someone who existed BEFORE Middle Earth was even created. The Lord of the Rings is but a single (albeit lengthy) story in Tolkien's legendarium (I think that is a work created just to cover the works of J.R.R. Tolkien). Great reviews! Keep'em coming
Aside from Saruman wanting the hobbits alive is that if the one or two that was captured doesnt have it, they can be used as hostages against Gandalf and the other members of the fellowship. Saruman was gonna want to use the one ring for himself.
Also the Nazgul is riding on a Fellbeast, a lesser winged creature not a dragon
Funny thing is; that Fëanor has the last laugh here since the palantir always lead you astray unless you have very very strong abilities towards discernment but it always leads even those like Sauron to the wrong conclusion. There is an awesome video that shows this. Which is what causes many different things into motion because each palantir user was lead to come to the wrong conclusion. Which is also what caused Sauron to be Uber confused for a long enough time !
Yes. A far cry from their greater ancestors. Those like Glaurung, Ancalagon, Smaug, Scatha etc. even the other lesser drakes of similar nature and the great ice drakes
BTW, "Fell Beast" is not the name of the creature they ride. It is a description that basically means evil beast. Tolkien did not, as far as I am aware, actually give the beasts a name.
@@robertdesantis5272it’s a fellbeast. A lesser Drake that shouldn’t even exist anymore but kept around by arcane powers still harnessed in the world that’s bleeding out it’s magic die to Morgoth’s poisoning the world.
@@robertdesantis5272 regardless I'm not saying it's their names it's what they are.
Their not dragons that's for sure.
Along side what else could they be named?
Galadriel is the one who rescued him from the top of the tower and rehabilitated the angelic spirit that is what had the form of Gandalf. This is how powerful and GOOD she is. Born in a blessed realm but always loved the lands of her forefathers where her ancestors were truly born under the stars. Middle Earth. She also weaved that cloak he wears too and crafted his new staff. ❤
you are a legend
@@bunkbed643glad you think so. There is always a small handful that troll me and or outright antagonize me but I’m a tank like Helm Hammerhand who took out hundreds of orcs and ghouls of olde before becoming frozen whilst standing ontop of the hill of enemy bodies hahaha
@@Makkaru112 I stand by your side!⚒🧞♀😀
@@uinen9029yay. Uinen is by my side. Who aided against the kinslaying at Alqualondë! Swanhaven! Lovely majestic Pearl of the seas. ❤
Wait how are we supposed to know that is it told about later on?
In the lore that Tolkien wrote about in later books, the Balrog and the Wizards are the same type of beings, obviously evolved into different types of characters, but equal in power. That is why Gandalf was afraid so much of the Balrog.
Just as an FYI, Andy Serkis did the motion-capture for Gollum, and a lot of people thought he should've won an Academy Award for the role.
However, people weren't really sure how to think about CGI-enhanced performances, so he didn't even get a nomination.
That's okay, though, he's won many, many awards in the years since.
The part about the dead marshes includes Legolas’s Father; Thranduil, & Thranduil’s father Oropher, were to join the Last Alliance in from a different angle to achieve a certain war tactic but Oropher and others got waylayed by orcs & many corrupted men which lead to eventually Oropher dying there, this loss effected Legolas’s father so very deeply forevermore. The bond between he and his son is the same bond Thranduil has with Legolas. And the braid he wears is to honour his grandfather. I believe after his death braids became less common. A sort of respect thing I believe. Both his father and Grandfather lived in Doriath(Elu Thingol’s domain[Elwë], which was heartbea of middle earth; Aside from Gondolin which held this mantle until it’s secret location was given up by a tortured elf who was the son of a very important mother who was the sister of the high king Turgon). All on a landmass called Beleriand that sunk under the sea after a set of disastrous events that lead to many greater outcomes much later on in the legendarium. This here is a whole set of stories of which also includes a quite a bit of Galadriel too but moreso other characters during this era. Of Beren And Lùthien comes to mind and Children Of Hurin!! You’ll fall in love even more after the third movie. Then you can enter into the lore videos like Moviejoob and OmarioRPG have done reaction videos too. Amazing stuff.
One thing to add though is this scene resembles a lot from the other battle Tolkien was involved in called The Battle Of Somme. Look into it and tell me your thoughts.
I’ll add something here though: that clan of elves really didn’t like being under the command of anyone else so they went ahead without the order and let’s just say it didn’t end well. That and they weren’t fond of the Ñoldor… huge history there as to why that is. That and the Sindar subgroup of these clans were a tiny bit more isolationist. But there are many amazing Sindar in the legendarium too Elrond and his two sons and daughter are connected to all of the main clans of men and elves through the union of his half elf father and full elf(quarter goddess) mother. Who essentially played a huge role in saving the world from the original dark lord Morgoth. Gained the Favour Of Valinor. Which subsequently lead to Numenor being a gift from the sea to the men who helped. Becoming blessed. Their land existing within the light of Valinor as it was situated closely to The Undying Lands. (The same ancestry Aragorn has that Èowyn spoke of while they were travelling to Helm’s Deep! (Elrond’s Twin Brother became the first king of Númenor. His name becoming Tar-Minyatur, and those faithful to Eru, the elves and the natural world all of this line carried Tar before their name! Ar for Aragorn is the word meaning Noble in his tongue called Adúnaic. That too is a fleshed out language Tolkien created too. Elvish languages also were placed into the official list of world languages too!
With elves being reborn in Valinor I don't really get why they would be so distraught about the death of friends and family on the continent when their spirit will just be transported to Valinor and they will meet once more after the ships sail.
@@ronweber1402 it’s not so simple. Not many do re-embodiment. And not all elves even know Valinor exists or where it is. Only a few left even know. Let alone even fewer who at effected by the sound of the sea and the GULLS. It’s very complex beautiful stuff. Which channels do you know so far that explain the endless world Tolkien created ?
@@ronweber1402 and there are no more ships. And the Teleri don’t give away their ships lightly. After the long life full of world travelling between Legolas and Gimli; they had met an ancient ent who essentially gave himself up so to speak to create a boat. Something like that. But this is due to when Galadriel said in the books that he’d one day find no more solace in the woods once he heard the sea birds cry. Which he did at Pellenor fields etc.
@@ronweber1402 also. Middle earth was the home of the OG elves and is one of the main reasons Galadriel even came to middle earth outside of the Fëanor’s Oath thing. She went her own way before or afterwards. It’s a long interconnected story that’s written in the same way our histories and mythologies have grown over time and some pieces stop abruptly as if something happened that caused hiccups in recorded or oral history. Heck: or the wiping out of huge portions of people etc. he was quite the genius veteran and professor.
@@ronweber1402 don’t let the title alarm you but GirlNextGondor has a great video that explains all of this stuff that ends up being covered in the the title Necromancy. The thumbnail is of a white spectral visage. It’s got all the answers you’ve been looking for.
Gandalf is basically an angel.
The wizards each had a task, a reason they were sent to Middle Earth. So when Sarumon failed in his, Gandalf was sent back to basically take his role. They (and the Balrog) are Maiar spirits, essentially lower angels sent to help the peoples of Middle Earth fight against Morgoth. But their task isn't finished until Sauron (the disciple of Morgoth) is defeated also.
Pudgey you seem to have such a sweet nature and Spartan is spot on about many things! Like you guys! All the best from Romania! 🇲🇩🌾🌿🌲
He is spot on bc he is pretending not to know what happens
Sauruman was corrupted by fear and jealousy. He volunteered for the mission to middle earth, Gandalf was ordered to go but Gandlaf was favored over him even though he volunteered and was the leader. And the absolute fear of Sauron.
The one who feared Sauron vocally was Olórin aka Gandalf !
Saruman despaired of being able to defeat Sauron so he threw his lot in with him.
"What's [The balrog] done?" ... well... back in the day, when they were all working for Morgoth, the Balrog was the kind of jock that'd kick the books out of Saurons hands and call him a little bitch - then storm a mythical elf city riding a dragon. Now he blew his knee out and his career is kinda over while Sauron is king of the Middle Earth Silicon Valley.
Long ago one called this Balrog a veteran from the 80 year long War Of Wrath and so he was traumatized when these dwarves came to bug his hibernation of PTSD and beating Boromir’s rare horn reminded him of Oromë and the elves etc so he halted in both fear and suspicion thinking there could be an ambush at any moment!
Shout out to the editor, amazing awareness of the lotr and fantasy reactor genre. Many chuckles.