I've Been Using the New Army Painter FANATIC Paints for Two Months
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- čas přidán 2. 11. 2023
- The Army Painter sent me the new Fanatic opaque acrylic paints and I've been using them for TWO MONTHS on everything I've been painting - what do I think about them?
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In my area, Army Painter is the brand that is sold in the "comic" stores in the mall next to the walls of funko pops and plushies... upgrading the quality of this entry point into the hobby is super exciting for recruiting new painters!!! 🙂
Hopefully they manage to keep it the more affordable option too.
@@td15593,50€ a bottle sounds an excellent price for what they are delivering..
My hobby store sadly never sells army painter products they only sell citadel paints and primer
You have to respect a company that actually takes criticisms to heart in an attempt to make a better product. It shows a level of goodwill to their customers that seems exceedingly rare these days, and I think Army Painter deserves a purchase or two in the future from this guy
@@aWOLtrooper Having a bad day? Need someone to talk to?
I'd like to see you go over the usual well known issues with paint, coverage of the yellow, chalkiness of the white etc.
Well well well... finally met another warrior on the trail of hobbying
yeah the old warpaint yellow was one of the worst paints ive ever used. id be curious to see how this new formula works.
@@vicioushellsing that leather brown army paint is so bad too, worst paint ive used
Yes. I was thinking the same thing.
And yet still no reviewers have done this. They are all sticking it over primer and saying “wow look how well it covers”. Like the vast majority of paint doesn’t already do this. I’m giving these fanatic paints a healthy dose of scepticism for now, until I see it for myself.
I'm so happy to hear Army Painter are releasing more reliable standard paints to go along with their excellent Air and Speed Paint ranges. The current warpaints aren't “bad” as such, just take a lot more effort to get them to work well. I really hope they keep the same price point too (or at least only a minimal increase) as it is one of their biggest selling points I think. Great quality paint, readily available and at a reasonable price, will put them ahead of the game for many hobbyists.
Have they mentioned what the new paints will cost?
@@ARescueToasterI've seen pre-orders placed at around 500 dollars for a complete set. Considering bulk discount and the fact that theres 216 paints in the range, I don't see them raising the price *that* much. Having said that, bear in mind that those preorders shouldn't even exist yet.
@@tomasmurphy9888 Thanks for the response; I'm looking forward to getting some!
I’m sure the cost is going up.
@@davidclaborn5499 I'd assume so, simply for having more pigment and likely R&D costs. Guess we'll see!
Interesting video. Army Painter have proved to be very agile in their response to criticism and intent to product improve. Also the 'triad' system makes life easier. Good to see, I'll definitely try some on release.
They definitely seem like a company that cares about customer satisfaction
@@samurguy9906 yes indeed. And how that stands out today!
This is the most amazing aspect of their company which has won them tons of seasoned painters.
You make an excellent point about not wanting to mix up your own shades and having certainty of being able to come back to a colour months or years later to add more figures to the unit.
Consistency in their range has been a hallmark of Tamiya, Gunze etc. Also to a lesser extent Revell.
To me the worst transgressions in this area are from Games Workshop. Revamping their range, formulas, colours and names on a whim and leaving modellers struggling to find a formula that matches one of an earlier and now discontinued colour.
This was covered in the painting phase with the interview of the former GW PM. Was super interesting about pigment suppliers changing their formulations and self inflicted misses on limiting the range for certain products like spray cans
I had written Army Painter Paints off, they were messy paints to me, ketchup describes it pretty well. But this is breaking news to me. I had no idea this line was coming out. I’m intrigued.
Also don't forget Army Painter tends to be cheaper than the competition.
Which is why I bought a set of Army Painter when I got back into painting after the pandemic (By then most my older GW paints were a huge mess, so I needed to restock a lot).
The old line works fine, for the price. If the Fanatic line can retain the same price, but have a more "modern" quality, that sounds amazing.
(I say "modern" quality, because back in the day that was sort of the quality of paints. They were all difficult to work with)
I imagine they will have to be more expensive. 3x to 7x the pigment, newly created paint stabilisation. All going to cost,so I imagine a couple of pounds more a bottle.
@@dogtags2010 Probably. But, if they are on par with Vallejo in price, why would I choose this brand? (Unless it's not available)
So it would in my opinion stille need to be slightly cheaper than Vallejo and Citadel. Or significantly better. But then, if I'm painting on a budget I would pick Vallejo since it's good and cheap. (And the color range is great too)
I'm excited a little skeptical , I went all in with the speed paint version 1 and loved them and for whatever reason people didn't like them so they changed the formula , which didn't bother me much as I have the entire range of the version 2 speedpaints now.......what has me hesitant is are they just rushing to get new paints to market and then after I spend a bunch of money it turns out something is wrong .......again.....and they will need to change the paints ........that being said I am an army painter fan , yes I will try them but I won't be preordering them , I'll wait to see and hear more reviews ........thanks so much Adam for using them for 2 months and giving us this video it sure helps .....alot.....
I actually did preorder them and they should arrive today , grabbed the complete line .......so looking forward to this , thanks again adam
these look to be very clearly to compete with Duncans new line, which is great news for all of us
I like that while they haven't ditched the fantasy names, the descriptions added to the label of what is actually in the bottle will be super helpful as well as the little diagram of where it falls into any given color sextet. I do not need another brand of paint, but, we'll probably try these out.
I had sworn off any more paint purchases but watching your enjoyment on Twitch with them had sold me to at least grab 3-4 colors to try out next year.
Maybe a starter box of 10, is what I am thinking.
Not a bad idea honestly, but I already own the entire Vallejo Model Color and ProAcryl Ranges plus every Citadel Contrast paint (thus why I swore off any new purchases lol), so I may see if they have something that fills in any blanks@@wonderboy2402
I started getting back into the hobby no terribly long after Pro Acryl started making waves, and it's been really interesting watching other brands step up their game in response.
My question is: how do they compare to ProAcryl? The way you describe is almost exactly the way I describe Monument’s paint and I’d love to see some comparisons both on the palette and coverage tests on models. If these compete with ProAcryl they could be huge, given the reach of AP.
I was thinking the same thing. If they can get to the same level of quality as Pro Acryl, with a wider range of color, in dropper bottles, at the same cheaper price point they have now, then I would definitely want to pick them up.
I second this. I recently picked up a set of proacryl and it's a joy to work with. It's probably the first white paint I've used that is not terrible.
Very curious about this too.
Pro acryl is great but I hate how they react to washes
I really wouldn't describe ProAcryl as "creamy". It's much more fluid than what this video shows.
Just eyeballing the paint being put on the pallete here, it looks a lot more like AK Interactive.
Which is good in my book, I much prefer AK to PA.
I am a big fan of Army Painter’s Air paints (I use them for both airbrush and regular paints) and their SpeedPaints. I’ve been hyped for the Fanatics line since I saw the first announcement, and hearing such a ringing endorsement from you only increases my anticipation. Thanks!
AP Speedpaints are my favorite "contrast" paint, and I started using the Airpaints based on your recommendation. If this new line is good, maybe my whole paint supply could be AP. Sure would make it easier on me. :) Thanks for the video.
The Army Painter has been my exclusive brand of choice for my miniature painting for months now, and I cannot wait to get my hands on these paints! I love the products, but honestly, I love the attitude and culture of The Army Painter as a company more.
I'm excited to hear about these, and I look forward to getting some for myself to test out. Thank you for this early preview!
By the way, just wanted to give you a shout out. I really appreciate your videos. I’ve been painting for 35 years and every episode that you do I learn something new. I have over 270,000 minis. Which you can see on my CZcams channel some of them, but I always always always learn some thing from you and wanted to tell you thank you very much from a friend you’ve never met.
I know this is an army painter "fanatic" video but you touched on their speed paints line saying that once you figured out a solution to using their dropper bottles their the only speed paints you use now. That prompted me to share my solution to that issue with you. I use a vortex mixer to really agitate the speed paints then rather than dropping a few drops into my pallet I remove the dropper nozzle cap from the speed paint bottle and dip my brush directly into the bottle. I have a holder for the bottle so I don't tip it over while doing this. This works for me as it eliminates any wasted paint being left on my pallet. Great video 👍!
LOVE the orange robots!
I'm really glad to hear Army Painter is pushing the envelope in terms of quality. I picked up their complete set of speed paints and have been enjoying slap-chopping my way through my backlog. Not sure I'd be getting much of the new Fantastic paints but I'm glad to hear your endorsement of their air paints.
SWEET!!!!!! really excited, I never used to use army painter, primarily Vallejo and P3 paints plus some die-hard very few GW colors, until speed paint came out. Now I'm speedpaint on everything with a few opaque paints for the all important clean up of the spill overs and highlights. I think I could really use some of the wide variety of colors form these new paints to take my TTG level up!
Thanks for this! This was a great and detailed review.
Well, not all influencers complained about Army Painter. Ninjon for example, did a video 'review' where he kind of started to review it and then swerved to 'use the properties of the paint', which was a cop-out of a review. At least he admitted in that review, which was after the Army Painter did their 'We hear you video', that it was sponsored by The Army Painter.
I am very excited. I love their air and speed paints a lot. It is nice to see opaques catch up in quality to other paints they make 😁
I've been using WargamesFoundry paints and artist acrylics for years, but with the now no longer allowed into Ireland state of most of WargamesFoundry stock, I'm switching over to Army Painter paints. I have yet to hear a bad review of the new line of Fanatic Paints, and have already pre-ordered the entire set ready for its release in March next year (2024). I love the air brush paints from Army Painter, as I use their metallics for fine line super shine highlights on armour/chipping, but have had similar problems with their regular line of paints when using them on a wet palette. Honestly cannot wait to try out some of these gorgeous paints on both my fantasy and regular military minis :-) Even the price for the entire set is nicely within my budget range, so happy days all round here :-D
Just bought the Mega paint pack, with the Paint station and Character brush in it, really great value, and i've only painted with my friends before, and they used citadel, and wanted me to go for that.. but i really liked the dropper bottle's, and been eye'ing them for years, then i saw the vidoes of them trying to improve the paints and stuff, and i was like i'm gonna hold out.. and kinda forgot a bit, but now i'm happy i got the Mega paint pack, painted my first mini alone, and it's been good fun, a lot of progress to be made, but it's nice to have a paint that does what you think it should.
Thank you for your input, I'm looking forward to trying them. I recently picked up the 2.0 speed paint mega box and I'm liking them, lots of options in that line compared to GW contrast that I've been using since they came out. Keep up the great content!
I've been saving my money up since first hearing that Army Painter was working on this new line of paints.
I was very impressed with their Airbrush line of paints, especially due to the triad system. I also enjoy using them with a hand-held brush.
Then the SpeedPaints and SpeedPaint version 2 were released and it made painting so much less complicated for me.
Despite having their complete line of "regular" paints and washes, I will definitely be buying this new full line of Fanatic paints once it is released.
Their previous "regular" paint line will be saved for use in painting terrain that I build from kits or build DIY from repurposed junk I have collected.
There were other sets of paints that I was planning to purchase from other miniature paint companies, but this new Fanatic line from Army Painter has replaced them. Mostly do to how impressed I've been with their previously released paints.
Very helpful video. Keep up the good work.
I have no background in this hobby, but fantastic video. I just stumbled onto this video. Really well done!
Sounds great, as someone who never liked AP's warpaints this sounds more like my kind of paint. And it is good to hear that they are improving and doing better things.
Now I can only wait to get my brushes on them.. They looks so good and I hope they will live to hype and they will be paints I will change to after thinking like whole year about changing paints I have now and every time someone else announced new paints...
Very excited to try these out!
I have the air Warpaints and I quite like them, even with a brush straight out of the bottle. Kind of happy to hear that the Air Warpaints are considered better than the old Warpaints. I've also bought the new 2.0 Speedpaint range and love them. So I'll likely be waiting on these but I might get a small set for more commonly used colors.
I think that the number 1 problem with the Warpaints line is the extra medium in the bottle. A lot of people complain about the paint and it seems that many of them aren't pouring it off like they should. However, even when pouring it off, the paints are just... ok. Not bad paints but not as good as other lines. Hearing that the Fanatic paints don't have that medium is GREAT news! I asked TAP directly on facebook about it and they just responded with "more details coming soon", so thank you, Adam, for clarifying! The paints do look really good and I want the line ... but I have 300+ paints already and if I buy another set my wife may kill me. Still.... I may do it anyway. Great Video!
Last year when I worked at Walmart and thought the fidget poppers would make great paint pallets I never bought one due to not finding any of a decent shape or color to actually want to use - now there is a local hobby store in my area that carries a silicone pallet that is much thicker yet flexible and available in black and white versions. I believe it's supplied by TurboDork and it's a little pricey ($15 for the 6 - spot) but it should stay put on the tabletop and I am saving up for that to try out
Thank you for the review! I received the 3 color sampler and have been impressed with them. Regarding the color "triads", with the Fanatic 6 color groupings/families you can get 6 triads. 123, 234, 345, 456, and also 135 and 246 for more dramatic color shifts. Great review, and subscribing!
Great video. I'm glad Army Painter actually wants to listen and improve their product. I too have found the Warpaints coverage is lacking, so seeing them actually listening and wanting to fix it is great.
Thanks for the info!
I'm cranking out an old Warmaster Vampire Counts army with SpeedPaints and Vallejo Xpress Colors; VC armies would fight at night, so I always wanted to paint the skeletons glowing evil green under the control of a necromancer but could never get them to look right. SpeedPaints have let me figure it out, and they look great! I wish I could post a photo!
Didn't think I'd ever be excited for a paint release, but I've even subbed to the army painter newsletter eagerly awaiting.
Looking forward to them being released...I have the airpaints line so this will be a great addition...
Thanks man! I now know a little bit more about my Warpaints, so I feel better that I'm not crazy (and how to work with them better).
Gonna see if I can get these new Fanatics
I am looking forward to these, pretty much my entire collection of paint is made up of army painter, aside from 3 sets of army colours for different countries from vallejo (Which I find separate extremely fast) I have about 4 citadel pots, 2 of which are cracking ground effects, agrax earthshade, nuln oil and some lamia medium. I have found the original warpaints are a bit hit or miss, some thick some runny, some break faster than others but still overall happy. I still might branch out into other lines to experiment but so far very happy with my majority being Army Painter.
I've bought a new pair of skadis pegboards and printed rack upon rack wait for these to be released. Great vid as always
Being a French mad paints collector,already have the whole collection of Vallejo(game,game air,classic..),AK,Kimera,Proacryl,GW,etc...i said a big Yes to this Fanatic paints !
Forgot to mention "rare" paints range as Garage kit colors usa,Iwata com art,Blood line Tim Gore,Dr.Martins Spectralite and so many others...
SWEET! cant wait to get them in the store. Better products makes for better hobbiests and cooler models!!!!
we appreciate your work for science!!!!
I also don’t typically mix paints. It’s hard, to impossible, to be consistent with the colors, so everything turns out bespoke. Also, if you do want to create color “recipes”, you need to use more than I like (x number of drops of each). I’m so cheap I squeak, and I don’t like wasting paint, so I’m shooting for using as little as I can get away with, so that doesn’t work well for me. Therefore, I really like out of the bottle colors, so I’m excited by the new line. Of course I’ve already got a lot of paint (about half army painter), which naturally I can’t waste, so it will be a while before a I splurge on more.
Cannot wait to check out these new paints!
Their new Air line is my favorite paint line!
where I live individual warpaints are more expesive than vallejo game color, so I just never considered using them, but speedpaints on the other hand are just awesome, cheaper than contrasts, dropper bottle and what I personally like they reactivate, which allows for cool color gradients and you know, they just work
I'm very much on the same boat with regards to mixing paints. I've shelved armies and pulled them out years later only to scratch my head wondering what paints I used. I definitely don't need the added challenge of having to mix paint to match. I got the sample pack that Army Painter sent out with three Fanatic colors and I'm absolutely blown away. I probably won't grab the mega set when it releases, having just bought the SpeedPaint 2.0 mega set, but I definitely am going to pick up a selection of reds, yellows and I'm very excited to see what their Fanatic White can do!
This review will definitely help me decide on purchasing from this line. I'm on the fence between a range refresh of my paints of two thin coats and monument hobbies. This new line slides in as a 3rd choice. Thanks Uncle Adam and best wishes to you all
Goddammit. I just got the new Vallejo Game Color Acrylics range at the beginning of 2023 (which is very good by the way).
You're gonna make me buy more paints I don't need again.
I have never tried out Army Paints other than their other hobby tools like their greenstuff, drill bit kits and mixing balls. I may look into giving them a go in the near future for their new paints? Thamk you for the demostration.
Thanks for the insightful video! An increase in the paint quality, and releasing them as a "family" of paints are both outstanding improvements. I hope they are able to maintain their price point at what it is now.
I can't wait to try the new paints. :)
Great to see, as hobbyists we can get ingrained in a certain brand I feel. I hope this new line is adopted and expiremented with.
I'm kind of excited to try some. I love AirPaint and SpeedPaint, so I'll snag a few bottles of this when it comes out.
I love them as a company. They are the Larian studios of the paint producers. They care about what their customers want. They keep getting better and better. I am so happy to hear that they have even more to choose from now. Also that it is better!
Fidget popper for speedpaint works super well. Thanks.
It’s changed the way I paint, honestly. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video.
Some things I'd be interested in knowing:
-do the Fanatic sextets color match 1:1 with the air triads,
-if they have 1:1 color matches for popular options from their competitors (Mephiston Red, Calgar Blue, etc.) and other popular colors (sunny skin tone, Payne's Gray, ice yellow, glacier blue, hull red, burnt umber, pale sand)
-how the white compares to everyone's favorite, Pro Acryl
-how do the above alternatives feel/apply compared to the original choices
The "creamyness" is what keeps me using Coat d' Arms paints for as long as I have. That's even though they're impossible to find easily in the US. But, some of their paints like yellow and their metallics blow, so I am VERY excited about these new paints.
I got a bottle of Ultramarine Blue from the Fanatics line when I ordered something from TAP (I honestly forget what it was) as a sort of anniversary promotion.
And honest to god it is my favorite paint I've ever used, I'm unbelievably excited to get my hands on more.
Got some of the Speedpaint 2.0 during the summer and they are a treat to work with. If these Fanatic paints are that quality, I'll definitely pick up a few
The new paints look really good. Just champing at the bit now until us mere mortals can get hold of them! 😀 Hope to catch your Twitch stream later 👍
The chemistry of paint is really fascinating. Wish I knew more.
I am very new to painting miniatures and only have used the army painter war paints till just now and starting to try out the air brush. I have been very happy with them so far, only problems I have found is sometimes the war paints don't mix that well or don't cover as well as I would like.
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
I'm still working with an AP set that i guess was old stock before they added the mixing balls (2019), so this new stuff looks pretty amazing
Totally agree on mixing paints, its way easier to just use the color straight out of the bottle. Im glad they reached out to you for this
As a new hobbyist I would really appreciate a vid on how to effectively work with paint. I run into so many problems with non-citadel paints when it comes ro coverage and what not and I feel as if there is something I don’t get.
What paints are you using?
@@jasonrichardwatts I just bought some army painter stuff from the local shop.
I'm definitely looking forward to this Fanatic line and will certainly pick up a few to try out. If these paints become a smash hit, it's going to be nice to see The Army Painter paints be considered top tier instead of looked down on as a cheap brand. It'll be a pleasant unexpected surprise to see the underdog triumph.
Thank you for the review. Hearing endorsements from experienced, talented painters like you gives credence to this new line and heightens my anticipation.
I’ve come back to the hobby after years of inactivity and paint mostly board game figures - I was getting tired of looking at plain grey minis on the table. 😊 I started back with AP Speed Paint 1 and then 2.0 and have had some success with both, though I still have a lot to learn.
I have two questions:
1. Why would I want an entire line of these acrylic paints when I already have speed paints? What do the Fanatic paints bring to the table that I’m missing with Speed Paints?
2. If I do get some (or all) of the Fanatic paints would you recommend getting the Army Painter Airbrush paints as well? Or could I use the SP 2.0 in the airbrush or the Fanatic paints? I hear that the Fanatic paints do quite well in an airbrush.
My heart says, “I NEED all 216 of these paints!” My brains says, “but you already have over 100 paints?” Help me to decide! LOL
Fanatic paints are opaque while Speedpaints are transparent - so they do totally different things. As far as airbrushing - I haven’t tried the Fanatic paints through the airbrush, so I can’t speak to that currently. Thanks for watching!
Awesome across the board, plus I love the shirt, Uncle Atom!
I plan to buy the full, set on release day.
Glad to see them finally fix their paints. I like Army Painter as a brand (great primers, great dips, great washes, great tufts...poor paints). So it'll be nice to see another option. I admit I'm a full AK interactive guy (with my old Vallejos filling the gap) so I don't know if I have any need to pursue buying an Army Painter paint. However, they do have a rack at the local game store, so perhaps having an option nearby in an emergency will be nice.
I’m glad they are doing something. The old stuff was terrible. I almost quit painting when I first started because I thought I was just painting wrong.
I've seen the AP hype vids for their new line and their current air paint is more than nice enough that I would give the new paint a look. The more I hear about them, the more I'm thinking about getting them, especially if they stay about the same price they are now
Would love if they made a single pigment set for the ones who really likes to mix.
Sennelier is an option.
The obvious answer here is Kimera, but options are nice.
@@bobhopfner3812 yes but they are not as easy to get. If army painter did it every miniature place would have it.
@@allen4866 no clue what they is.
@@perjohanaxell9862 Monument hobbies has a core set that's really nice as well, tho again maybe not easy to find depending on where you are.
Great video and thanks for the review! Is it just me, or does the first orange mech look like it has a smiley face? Makes me think he's excited to blow things up.
When I had far more time than sense, I got into the full Reaper line of paints. I do like them but they like, many lines have their issues. The coverage across the line, you got to like a thin paint to start with, and the separation over time were a few things that I slowly began to not like. My collection is getting to the point where even the labels are fading and it's getting hard to read the names and numbers on the bottle. I'm not a huge mixer nor could or would I call myself a "serious" mini painter.
I did pick up the speed paints. They're really good and I use them a lot. However, because of the past reviews of the TAP paint line I never made the jump to them vs REAPER. Admittedly this new FANATIC line has me interested to get back into spending more time at the painting table. The number of colors, its organization, coverage, and everything I'm hearing does make me want to pick this one up. If I do, I'll likely find someone local who could make use of my REAPER paints.
Side note: TAP has been around for a while and what I find impressive is that they seem to not be resting on their laurels.
I think the most remarkable action by AP, is their eagerness to work with the community to prototype their products. Well done AP.
I think they said their washes will remain the same.
I am excited for the new paints :)
I wonder if they have already started making changes that will be present in this new line to their current Warpaints. Last time I ordered some Warpaints each came with an agitator included and were much more consistent, there was no separation and the paints themselves felt and behaved like a significantly higher quality paint than they had previously.
Really interested in testing if they have a new bigger paint box like the old complete set or a bigger speed paint box. I wonder if the old airbrush medium works as well with new "creamy" paints or have they planned a new solution.
summary of this video for busy people.
Everything is good not a single bad thing about new fanatic paints go buy it when it comesout.
I'd love to see you paint a Blood Bowl team with those paints.
Thanks for the video.
I’ve tried the three pack that the Army Painter has sent out. I am blown away at how, as you said, creamy these paints are. They mix well, cover well and thin well. I am beyond excited for all hobbyist, new and old that will be able to access these paints as most hobby stores near me do carry the brand.
I’m glad you got to try one of those “surprise” packs of three colors. They’re pretty great, right? Thanks for watching!
Have been a big fan of the company and paints for a while, this is the first time I am genuinely tempted to get the complete set
I use vallejo because of the consistency of the paint, and consistency of the quality. No thinning if your brush painting right out of the bottle. Color range is similar, better Metallics.
🎉 I wanted to pass along something I am trying. In an effort to keep mold under control in my wet pallet I have been using hydrogen peroxide in place of water. I have not found any affect on colors due to bleaching.
I always felt like I was fighting some of the warcolors paints, so I look forward to see how this handles.
"Creamy" is definitely the word I would use to describe them.
I really like the 6 paint sets. Here's hoping that those will also be available as paint bundles.
I got the three color sampler and it was a night and day difference. I can't wait to try the full line. They have been amazing
Very cool, you’re one of the lucky ones. Thanks for watching!