Canyon’s Performance Gravel Bike Gets A Redesign | New Canyon Grail
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- This is the brand new Canyon Grail. Canyon say this is a gravel bike made for speed and performance off-road - and it already has some pedigree - ridden to victory by Kasia Niewiadoma at the Gravel World Championships and Carolin Schiff at UNBOUND. Gone is the famous ‘hover bar’ of its predecessor, but lots else is new too. Si takes a first look!
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00:00 Intro
00:33 Headline stats
01:08 Canyon’s gravel evolution
02:31 Tyre clearance
03:51 Aerodynamics
04:42 Seat post
05:07 Cockpit
07:13 Handling & geometry
08:52 Storage
10:16 Extras
11:22 Weight & models
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Nice or supernice? 🔥 What’s your take on the new Canyon Grail? 🚲👇
Nice. Though it is missing bosses on the front fork.
proprietary accesories is enough for me to look else where for a gravel bike, you have the whole history of cycling telling you why "unique" sizing of fitting components are a bad idea.
@@TiberiusMoon True, though I don't see why standard accessories wouldn't fit on this?
(aside from the gamin mount)
supernice!!
Complete Design U Turn. This new Grail looks super nice +alot of useful extra features which make much sense. i like it...
LOVE LOVE LOVE the bike, HATE HATE HATE the price! £9,500 this is getting silly.
This is the highest mod carbon frame (CFR). I just looked at the website and they have the SLX starting at $5k and SL starting at $3k.
Dave, the equivalent SLX and groupset on the road side is ~2K cheaper(with a powermeter) - they are clearly adding a “gravel” word profit margin
The model down is about 2k cheaper and 100g heavier, maybe a bit more value for money
Yes that's what I'm looking at
They literally have the cheapest bikes 🤣
Pretty clear Canyon just listened to the UCI roadies and made a roadbike with wider tire clearance and tilted drops. For American style gravel (you know... with gravel on the ground) or bike packing, Grizl remains king insofar as I can tell
Uh maybe check the specs. This Grail is less aggressive on paper than either the prior Grail or Grizl. Longer wheelbase, slacker head tube, shorter stem, etc. Pros aren't riding this setup stock. They're going with longer, narrower handlebars (see Peter Stetina and even Valverde at Gravel Worlds). Personally, I was hoping they leaned a little more toward proper road bike geometry. I like what they did with the Endurace and wish it was closer to that geo. BTW this is coming from someone who races gravel and does the occasional bikepacking trip. All the mounts are a nice touch though!
@@justinjewell1043 The stack has increased but the reach is nearly identical. They've elongated the TT, the shorter stem is simply to compensate for that. And the HTA isn't slacker. They've simply smoothed the progression across the size ranges. For the sizes that most humans will actually be riding (small for men, because their sizing is retarded), the HTA is steeper. Its actually only .3 deg off from an Endurace. You saying you race is irrelevant. I also race. This bike is more road than I would ever care to put on a typical course here.
@@cjohnson3836 Me saying I race is irrelevant? Thanks man. Not insulting in the least. Most don't race, though. In any case I don't know where "here" is (nor do I care). And I'll ignore your HTA assessment because...huh. And I'll also ignore your use of "retarded" which is weird in this day and age. Stack and reach aside, and I said "on paper," this bike is less aggressive than the prior Grail (which I own). Unclear what we're arguing about here when you don't even seem interested in a more road-like, aggressive gravel race bike. Argue to argue, I guess. CZcams haha. And yes I know longer TT equals shorter stem as the gravel bike norm in most cases. But 70mm?! For someone like me who's 6' and rides a medium? I should also mention that I've raced the Grizl with its replaceable 80mm stem, which I did with a 100mm one. Felt great and more comfortable to me. That said, wouldn't have minded if they'd gone the other way with this new Grail. IE shorter TT and slightly longer stem. As in leaning MORE road bike geo. But I guess if the pros find this acceptable then who am I to irrelevantly complain haha. Oh wait they don't (see: Stetina, Valverde, and any other pro that's raced this bike and check their stem length, bar width, etc)! And if after more reviews come out and I get the sense this bike rides as roadie as you imply, I'm all in!
@@justinjewell1043 Its irrelevant because your prior race experience or not has nothing to do with anything you previously stated prior to that sentence. Its called non-sequitur. Its what people do when they fail to adequately consider what they type or say before doing it. I, at least, qualified why my race experience has any relevance as it informs an opinion.
[And I'll ignore your HTA assessment because...huh]
Yes, you'll make an argument based on supposed geometry but then ignore said geometry when shown unsupportive of your argument? Gotcha, so we can ignore you from here out as you're not an honest participant.
[And I'll also ignore your use of "retarded" which is weird in this day and age.]
Not really, echo chambers for the chronically online only make it seem so as people isolate themselves in online padded rooms. People in reality don't give a flying fuck.
[Unclear what we're arguing about here when you don't even seem interested in a more road-like, aggressive gravel race bike.]
My statement made it obvious. The average western male (the majority of people who will ever own this bike, or any bike for that matter) is approx 176cm tall. That puts them on a size small by Canyons fit reqs. You can't look at the entire range and assume equal weights. Do you not understand the concept of a weighted mean? Most people will be on a small. Very few people will be on large up. This is what the educated call a distribution. You must weight expectations by the distribution of sizes that actual real people exist within. Most people will be riding a small. Therefore, small sizes of this bike are the most relevant to compare between years. The old model, at the small size that majority of people will be riding, is in many marks less aggressive than the new model. I know its late in the English speaking side of the world but go drink some pre-workout and try to keep up.
The rest of you post is more non-sequitur and emotional appeal.
Just got one of the last Grails with the double decker bar two weeks ago 😅. Don't think I regret it though, the flexible handle bars are so smooth on the gravel ...
Been riding one since 2018, favourite bike ever so far!
Same here in the sale - new one is heavier so not regretting.... 😂
I was shopping for a grail but finally ended up for a grizl with the recent sales. Now I might "regret" my choice .... nah .... In fact I am just acting like a spoiled kid :D
I also got 14 days ago grail with a double handlebar. Really great bike and I don't regret it
Enjoy the new bike! The hover bar is a cool feature... looks good too 😎
Nice plug for your ride with Alex. Well done Si.
Looks fantastic. What an awesome all rounder, would love one of these bad boys.
Beautiful!!!!❤ I love everything about it!
How about that storage? Great idea 💡
Looks super nice! Really like it from the first look.
How does it compare to the Ultimate? Stack/Reach is actually the same and I`m wondering if I could use the new Grail as my one and only bike when getting another wheelset for road with 30-32mm tires. Would have to change the groupset as well, of course (maybe something like SRAM Force eTap AXS).
What do you guys think?
Canyon is taking advantage of the healthy reputation the brand had been building on over the last years. The Grail used to be a carbon gravel bike you could pick up for less than $3000, in various different component configurations. I used to compare Canyon bikes with brands like Trek and Specialized, and scratch my head, wondering how Canyon managed to pack so much bike into so little price. Those days seem to be gone now, as Canyon capitalizes on the back of that perception of value. Clearly, somebody at Canyon realized they could be charging more for their bikes, which is what we're seeing. Gone too, are the 2 by setups we have seen before, all replaced with 1 by groupsets.
I am currently in the market for a new gravel bike, and I was seriously considering the Grail. But now I have serious doubts - there seem to be other brands out there that has overtaken Canyon on value - Scott, with their Addict, and Lauf with their new Seigla come to mind. Canyon has introduced a higher, more expensive tier of product, and taken away from the segments where cyclists fell in love with the brand. I don't like it.
That said, I think this new CFR line will sell like hotcakes.
Lauf definitely has one of the best prices. I would also add Rose Backroad in here as well - ~1.5K-2K cheaper than Canyon with matched groupsets, same style seatpost and CFR weight
All Grail bikes come with a 2 by shimano version
@@aliancemdLauf was very popular for the age group riders at Unbound this year
You can get this bike for 2.7k with a 2x groupset (although this in the EU, so maybe it's different in the US).
look at cube
Wow. Love the colors. Also very curious to a more detailed comparison to the Grizl.
We smell and epic rided coming 👀
@@gcntech why don’t add an Focus Atlas in the mix? Seems a nice middle ground between the two Canyons.
Looking good 🙌
It's a sign. A month ago the CANYON Company bike truck had a "Try Riding" sign at the Seal Beach, CA location where they stopped over. They had 20 bikes for people to try out. I was talking to the 2 staff members there and I told them I've never been close enough to a CANYON bike before but I told them I've mostly seen it on a CZcams show called GCN so we talked about it all morning. I didn't try one because I have a very addictive personality and if I held one I'd get one. I just recently got my Roadie out from storage and I just got back into riding again. I told myself I wouldn't get one and I walked away but I loved their gravel bikes. Then this video shows up. Haha!
Nice looking bike...... Love the little extras and the amazing colour scheme, sadly way out of mosts price range i should imagine..... 🤔 Great video though Si 👍
Would you like to see some of this tech trickle down to the entry level bikes?
I looked at a Grail when I was buying a new gravel but it was a little above my price point and a little too limited in attachment points. I like to set my bike up to be everything from a street bike to a full-out touring rig and the Grail just didn't have all the attachment points that I wanted. I went with a Grizl and haven't regretted it for a minute. It's a solid bike with tons of attachment points and wheel clearance so it can be set up for whatever I need it to be. I'm also not a big fan of integrated stems as I prefer to be a bit more upright and like to change the stem length to suit my favored riding position. I just wish that Canyon would abandon their love of 1-1/4" steerer tubes. Beyond that, Canyon is one of the few major brands that seems to have gone all-in on gravel bikes, having so many options at a huge variety of price points.
I was in between the grizl and grail and was not sure what to choose for months. At the end i went with the grail. Altough i also more towards having the most options to configure, i tried to think about what i only dream of doing, and what i do in reality. Wild bike packing adventures, riding trails, needing all the mounts - that`s what i dream of but never do. What i do is commute to work all day (60km) on mostly paved roads and weekend recreational rides on mixed roads with light gravel. Therefore i choose the grail as i think this makes it a more fun bike for what i do.
On the fence with the wider wheelbase and forcing a shorter stem due to a longer tt/reach. My 2XL Grizl is massive and the XL Grail is bigger, with the exception of the seat tube. I was hoping to also use this for cx but I get the feeling that it will be too long for that. Still excited to see its available for the rest of us
Awesome & Thanks :)
Amazing. The longer top tube, short stem, cockpit and head angle are all very similar to the Stigmata which is a phenomenal gravel bike. Add in some of the features of the ultimate frame and this bike could be a beast!
Will you be picking one up? 👀
All bikes should come with these fenders!!! It’s annoying trying to fit 3rd party ones on my bikes! Brilliant Canyon!
fenders (mudguards) for all 🙌 Have you found 3rd party options hard to fit?
This is the bike I have been waiting for. It's a good thing I have been keeping my money tight. Thank you, Canyon.
With the new seatpost, looks partially similar to Rose Backroad, which is 1.5K-2K cheaper for the same groupset and weight. Comparing to the new road bikes, it seems like they added ~2000 profit margins to the “gravel” version(at least for Di2)
The voice overs sound terrible, what happened? new mic?
So Good!
It is amazing that they finally got rid of that ridicoules handlebar. The new model will most likely head directly to the top spot of my list to replace my Canyon Ultimate CF SL8 commuter bike.
Love the copper paint scheme. Would look great mounted on top of the Peugeot Onyx concept car.
Nice video. Now I ride on the new Canyon CF SL 7.
Cool bike. I have the Grail Version 1 with the hoverbar and love it. The only gripe i have is the proprietary cockpit. It cant be adjusted so you better be fine with it. Cant change the rise or reach, and you cant put arerobars on it if you wanted...at least Canyon discourages it.
Seems like many high end bikes are coming out with non adjustable integrated stem/handlebars. I can remember bike dealers pushed getting a custom fit was of paramount importance, paying $500 dollars for a custom bike fitting was money well spent.
It seems that with the high end bikes now coming out, the only choice you can make is the frame size and seat height.
I've been on my 2021 Grail for a few years. Love it. Understand the design of the hover bars, a bit odd looking. (and a pain to get a race number on) as much as we knew this was coming, I'm feeling a little frustrated that our hover bar bikes just completely dropped in resale value, but we knew as much when we bought such a radical design to begin with. Can Canyon make an after market bar and stem to replace the hover bar? I'd buy that in a heartbeat!
me too!
Thanks Si and crew......eh , I'm all set .
1K-2K Euros more expensive than its road equivalent(with powermeter in case of electronic groupsets) - big added margins for that “gravel” word
But with support for bigger tires, mud guards, aero bars, bigger internal storage, magnetic bag, there is some justification for the price premium.
@@feezee82 Canyon Endurance also supports 35mm tires, also supports mud guards(maybe not the same mudguards but it does), it also has aero bars, no magnetic bag(use a strap one if you Really need that). Also, Canyon Endurance comes for ~2K less with all of that + a powermeter, when going for an electronic groupset.
Supernice! Beautiful bike! I love that copper colour. Interesting changes in the design. I'd love to have one. Unfortunately, even the cheapest version is far too expensive for my taste.
Gravel Bike is now popular these days. I’ve recently bought in my local bike shop. It’s little pricey but no regret about it. It’s priceless experience when I’m on a saddle.❤❤
Gravel bikes offer great versatility 🙌 The riding position is also a little more relaxed than on most road bikes
Way, WAY out of my price range sadly but looks like a great bike. The onboard storage very much appeals to my inner MacGyver (you could definitely get a Swiss Army Knife in there!) and as a Dundee Utd fan I love that colour scheme. It's also quite similar, for those into British Superbikes, to the old HM Plant Honda livery.
Available from 2700€ for the SL model. Its missing some features, but still a good bike! Just be aware of the sizing, if in between, choose the smaller one.
@@dakalla That's still way out of my price range (my current bike was £600 😀 ) but just for fun I checked the Canyon website and put in my height and leg length and it broke their sizing calculator. Apparently they can't understand how short my legs are relative to my height!
Should we see how much we can fit in that storage? It's crying out for a little picnic packing 😂
It's a 2017 Specialized SWAT box in a different corner of the inner triangle.
Canyon is DTC, no middle man. Other brands are 20% more
"I've got my Commuter bike sorted!" Man, I wish my commuter bike was the same model as the Gravel World Champ. That being said, love how the frame bag matches the paintwork change - it's the small touches
Having the same bike as a world champ is a pretty cool brag 😂
The one bike to rule them all ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Like the bike, good features of storage & overall rideability; but ummm I wonder if those excellent looking mud guards will fit my Shand Stooshie for this winter!
Awesome bike!! Lucky you Si, you got to ride it! Looks like a bike that "has it all", just a slight budget gap :)
We're lucky to get some pretty nice bikes here at GCN 👀 Did you catch Si's epic coast to coast on this bike? 👉czcams.com/video/gyKPSrgepyk/video.html
Beautiful bike. I like the head tube angle - offset concept. Ive eyed the Grizl over the Grail, but I think that has flipped now.
Sounds like this could be the bike for you... You could say it's the holy Grail... 🏆
it looks nice, i agree with the point on the Grizl being used more. I 'upgraded' my Grizl to run the Canyon H31 Aerobar and it did help with a more race focused ride. The onboard storage is a nice touch though at 5k for the low end model to include storage I think I'll stick with the Grizl for now :)
How was the experience of upgrading? Is it hard to do? Would love to read more about it
I got Grizl SLX frameset ordered and waiting it from Canyon later this month. This new Grail might be just what I'm looking for but 42 mm tire clearance only might put me off. I want to be able to ride snowy roads and lake ice in the winter.
@@sloikalamos it was just a case of removing old shifters and bartape, stem and fitting the new integrated bar /stem. One thing to be aware of was I made sure to order Canyon EP1297-01 Wedge Extention which isn't included with either the stem spacers or handlebar. It stops the handlebars applying too much pressure to the carbon stem and cracking it. Apart from that it was easy, only other upgrade was switch from SRAM APEX RD to SRAM GX RD with a 10-50 at the back.
@@user-rl3ef4ju9k What kind of setup and tires do you use for winter/snow and ice pls? I really like this Grail, but I'd also like to have a reasonable winter setup on it
Nothing wrong with the Grizl! The Grail is a race machine though... if you're looking to go fast this could be the bike for you! Cool to hear that the aero bars have made a difference 🙌
Do you think you would be able to put road wheels/road tyres on this and use as a winter bike?
Definitely like the aero bar setup. (SoG can suck it. Just race FFS!)
The new geometry is interesting. Clearance is never enough for Unbound so that's a wash really. (Though as a 65kg rider I don't go much over 40c ever.)
Appreciate the unmentioned grommets for a top tube bag.
Storage in down tube is nice. How water proof is that? Ride in a downpour or a little road spray?
Fairly clean cockpit but absolutely not a fan of exposed cables of any sort in 2023. Dealbreaker.
I think the frame bag is a nice touch but then they after-thoughted a floppy parachute-like, bib-chaffing flap on the zipper. Too bad.
That aero bar attachment is pretty cool. Little bag looks a tad small for anything really useful.
Wonder how much on a one bike, do it all bike it’d be?
Colour scheme looks good. But then I head the price.
Like somebody else said, it looks like a UCI racing gravel bike. That frame bag makes the bike more aero, which racers care about. And they hate excess baggage, so it being barely useful for carrying stuff also makes sense for them. They don't carry that much anyway. I LOVE the aerobars and frame storage, but I'd probably get a Grizzle for more tire clearance so I can do more different races with different terrains. I really like 45s to start, 50s if it's going to be deep sand and/or chunky.
Awesome bike, some great features. 44cm is too wide though, may as well ride with a baggy t-shirt on & piss away any aero gains. I definitely need an integrated cockpit for my Bombtrack now though, looks ace
How would you use a Garmin/Wahoo etc with those new aero bars.......which are pretty cool actually.
I'm thinking about using this bike for gravel and road, how would this bike perform with road wheels and tires?
Handlebars should be customisable, 44 is too wide for most 😅
Gravel bikes usually comes with wider handlebar for better handling offroad
Yeah usually, but some comes with narrow tops and wide drops
44 is perfect *if* you plan to do Bikepackung. Way more room for a handlebar roll
Totally agree! This is a gravel race bike and there should be 38-40cm bars on it. 44cm are for bike backing bikes like the Grizl.
Yeah, gcn said it's going to be a pro version. But it should be a choice really 😅
Great vid, looks like a lovely bike and the on-board storage is awesome! Just the s J some about price as that’s outside my budget 😢
At this point, take a Carbon race mountainbike hardtail from around 2015, make it aero, slap a rigid fork, drop bars and skinny mtb race tires on and you have the same thing.
Even the geometry is similar.
Longer reach/top tube, shorter stems and a slacker headangle, the same thing that mountainbiking experienced a couple years ago.
It's just history repeating itself.
Give gravel 5-10 more years and you'll find old school XC racetracks being re-used.
You think I'm complaining? Actually, I'm happy. The exploration and mile crunching is being reduced in MTB so sure, take it!
Canyon exceed mtb frame looks so similar…
Perfect, Where do I sign?
Good if the courses become more demanding but what I've seen of the euros and worlds certain road bikes may suffice. My mate used his Crux with no issues.
I like the new Grail. cool
I caved in and ordered an AL Giant Revolt last week after checking Canyon stock for months and now theyre launching a new one that ckecks all the boxes for me... oh well
Did the bolt for the 'Gear Groove' already rust?!
Really super nice bit of kit😮 Love the geometry, paint job, the bag, and the mudguards. The aero bars aren't for me and the internal storage......meh.
Nice
been waiting for this day since June when I saw the bike at unbound. And then looked at the cf slx with GRX and the color is "sand" come on canyon. I would have bought it in a heartbeat until I saw the color.
Just noticed that too. Barf. I hate that about gravel bike culture. How do you know it's a gravel bike? The colors look like somebody left it in a hog trough. So frustrating because a lot of the other bikes offer the better grey/black color scheme.
@@ZenEndurance I ordered it anyway. The color on the canyon video looks a bit more gold so maybe it will look good in person. I actually thought "well at least I won't care as much when I hear all the pebbles hitting the frame."
Looks like a great bike for bikepacking! However, although the D-shaped seat post is well thought out, it wouldn’t work with an aftermarket suspension seat post, such as Kinekt. (Or is there such an option?) the other thing I don’t like is that I will probably never be able to afford one in this life.
And if you are truly going to be in aerobars for any real amount of time, you want to be able to put in a forward facing seatpost or else your lower back is going to get injured.
#askgcntech when using the aero bar, is there somewhere else to mount the computer? Or do you have to choose which of the two you want for a ride?🤔😬
It's a supernice for me
So you'd do a full-on tour on this bike? it won't be too aggressive for that? Really think this would be more suitable for me over Grizl just because it's going to be 80% road.
Sharp looking gravel bike
Looks wonderful, I'd quite like a gravel bike but would want the option to mount a pannier rack on the back to use my rear pannier bags. Too many bikes have become impractical for touring or cycling days out in my humble opinion.
Sounds like the grizl could be the one for you 👀
Aero bars on gravel bike? Ok, now we seen it all:)
Do Canyon make a road Ebike and does it have a range extender, what does it cost?
Finally a serious handlebar
In-frame storage?? That’s amazing! Can we have this on all bikes standard from now on?
The days of Canyon being good value are over, boys
You can get one for $2800, but this one is the CFR model top tier. Same spec on the Sworks Crux is $12,250….
longer reach shorter stem is straight out of the MTB rule book.
Wasnt a big fan of the old handlebar so i give the new one a supernice but the best gravelbike still being the scott
I sort of want one of these just for the downtube storage.
Nice, but would be better with a Force/XX1 or Rival/GX drivetrain. Also, like every time I've said... "I'll buy a Canyon today", they either don't have the color shown in reviews and if I wanted another color, they don't have anything in stock. Also, a non-round seatpost on a gravel bike is a no-go. Gravel bikes all can benefit from dropper seat posts or the ability to add it at a later time. This is a bike that was designed for a flat race with no steep descents.
Basically a normal endurance road bike with bigger tire clearance, right??
With a “gravel” price on top. It is a nice gravel bike though, with little nice touches
No. The geometry is different
I mean, I love the bike, If it wasn't £6k I may have thought about it. I've recently bought my first ever gravel bike. Merida Silex 400. amazing bike for the price but I do love the square seat post & the frame storage on the canyon, I ride with a backpack currently.
I have the same Merida, love it. surely for most of us a gravel ride is bashing your bike around on some rough stuff, £6k to do that is crazy. big money to make a gravel bike fractionally faster is a very niche market. Being able to break a gravel bike, or components, without breaking the bank to fix it is a factor if you want to have fun on gravel.
@@davemoss6976 I mean yes and no. It’s a good bike this canyon but it’s not worth 6k. The Merida is amazing and I’d happily pay 2k for mine if it had the frame storage, the square saddle post and that computer bracket thing ok the handlebars. But I’d never spend 6k on a bike. My Merida is 10kg. Light AF.
was that a 650 'Bee' front wheel
Wish they gave you the option to run 50c wheels though that’s where I need to be but the grizl lacks the cool factor so canyon lost me with limiting tire size to 42mm
As a Grizl Suspension rider, i will never go without suspension again. Would prefrer the new Specialized Roubaix if I was in the market for a faster bike (i know its not a dedicated gravel bike).
Deal-breaker question for me: press-fit bottom bracket still?
I love the color paint of the bike Kasia Niewiadoma won Gravel World Cup on. Beautiful bike, if only I could afford spending EUR 7000 on a bike.
@gcntech Hi, i'm in search of a gravel bike for performace and travel. I see the new canyon grail cf slx 8 axs and the orbea terra m21e team. The prices are similar but the grail have carbon wheels. is this bikes good for bikepacking and speed? Is the tyre clerance a limit on the grail ? th
Want one
Out of stock already on my size and budget (CF SLX Shimano Di2). The Canyon website states 50mm tire clearance.
42 mm.
You are probably looking at Grizl, not Grail
@@aliancemd50mm is listed as clearance for both bikes - see frame spec on Canyon's site; clearly a typo
@@DCCSound To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if it can actually fit 50mm because they say that you can add the mudguards and have the 42mm tires, without clearance issues.
By the description, it was designed by and made for the PRO's. Did they consult the armatures that will be buying this bike what they want and need?
last time I spoke to an armature it didn't really respond ;) ...
Getting away from the hover bar should’ve happened a long time ago. Grail was sold as a race bike and Grizl was sold as an adventure bike, but pro racers used the Grizl to avoid the hover bar
Still with pressfit bottom bracket.
When will they learn?
I bought a Grail AL 6 in the spring for $1700 and have already put 1500 miles on it. I love it but it was already expensive considering I had to buy my wife one also. They don't even have an aluminum version listed on the site at all. Come on not everyone is rich or a pro.
Awesome color choice! Great bike but not my cup of tea 🤭, I'm more into comfort than race.
the GCN team switched the stock Schwalbe G-One RS tires to the sponsors tires from Pirelli, interesting.
Probably in the contract :)
Nice advertorial
I got the OG one in 2018 and liked the new bar and the science behind it. Unfortunately the cockpit was too long but Canyon refused to sell (!) a shorter one to me. Is this even thinkable?? I had to sell it and buy another bike. Good that this now cannot happen again :-)))
By the way: "1,5w at 45km/h faster"...this claim for a gravel bike...are you serious Canyon Marketing Team? Have you ever ridden a gravel (!) bike at this speed?
Another amazing bike that is out of my price range 😢
Kudos for them dropping those goofy handlebars. Too bad they don't understand the difference between tire clearance and mud clearance. Just because you only plan to run 42mm tires, doesn't mean you don't need a lot more clearance for the sticky stuff. Basically they've built an Aspero 5, which is a great bike except for limited mud clearance.
I have an Aspero with 40mm tires and have never had an issue with mud clearance. Although if it's that muddy I'd rather be on my MTB...
@@johnhutto71 I, too, have an Aspero and while running 40mm tires in Kansas this past summer, I was perhaps the most miserable I've ever been in my life. If you haven't had problems with clearance, it's only because you haven't ridden in muddy enough conditions. Besides, it's better to have clearance and not need it than to need it and not have it. Deliberately limiting a gravel bike's clearance to barely 42-43mm completely limits the bike to the sorts of courses it can be used for.
FFS I literally ordered the last gen bike yesterday!
I love my Grail AL with eTap. At $2500, the value was unmatched. Sadly, that seems to no longer be available.
I wish you had pulled a whole salami out of the storage hole. That would have been gold!
A little disappointed by the tire clearance to be honest. Not that I'm using 50 mm tires but it would be nice to have the option...
Wish they’d get the Grizl back in stock
maybe a new one is coming?
Looks like a really nice do it all bike or at least frame, but the groups that are currently available fill a bit old, and I personally really really do not like that cockpit, too wide, too flared...
Prefect Bike for Gravel Worlds in 2024, Si???
Actually found the previous model better looking and more interesting with the comfortable floating bar. But I am sure this is a great bike.
Gravel bikes have finally reached 90s MTB geometry. Maybe in 2 years every gravel bike will come with suspension fork.
I hoped they would lean more towards road bike aggresive geometry with grizl being more gravel heavy bike. Price is too high and value is not that great as used to be. For carbon frame its heavy and I dont like the internal space in frame as its hard to clean and can rattle.
IMO bad call to move away from round 27.2mm seat post of the previous model