Did nerfs destroy this Terraria weapon?
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- čas přidán 20. 10. 2023
- Did nerfs destroy this Terraria weapon? The Quad Barrel Shotgun. Terraria's 1.4 update introduced a handful of new an unique weapon throughout progression. Included in this, was the weapon we're going to be looking at today- the quad barrel. What makes this weapon interesting, is just how much its been nerfed since its introduction. Having its damage, fireate and obtainability utterly destroyed in more recent updates. The question is, with its new performance, is it even worth getting at all?
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This things so inaccurate it honestly makes you feel like a stormtrooper lol
the average valorant silver player
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As much as I love the stereotype that stormtroopers can't aim. They aren't inaccurate, they just can't hit the fast targets that are jedi.
Considering the post skeletron bit in whichever update changed that, the handgun, phoenix blaster or hellwing bow are probably stronger. Autofire gave everything some more viability, but the use time is arguably the highest I’ve ever seen, and while the pellet count being increased can be seen as a plus, half of your shots aren’t going to be hitting in the first place :/
The use time is a bit faster than the Proximity Mine Launcher, with a 1 second use time.
This weapon is a lot better than it seems, because it seems to be specifically designed for use against the wall of flesh, in which case it's exceptionally powerful. It's just that Sock forgot to use meteor shots which makes the weapon much, MUCH more powerful.
It’s honestly just a true melee ranger weapon lol
Idk... I usually don't turn autofire on(seems too cheese-y I guess?) And although there is a big gap between the moment you obtain the quad-barrel shotgun and the moment you obtain chlorophite/nano bullets, I feel like it would shred pretty much everything with homing bullets.
@@bastienfelix4605 autofire exists so people don't get carpal tunnel, it ain't cheating
this thing is BROKEN against the wall of flesh when used with meteor shots, in my master mode drunk world playthrough, it shredded WoF and I was shocked, guess dying was worth it lol
OMG SOCK LIKED MY COMMENT :D
Meteor shots are basically a requirement if you want to kill the wall with a gun weapon, they’re just so damn effective
@@Akmbo4TW He hearted a reply I made on the subject of Meelee Speed making the Terra Blade more effective than the Daybreak AND Solar Eruption. 1200 Single target DPS with Beetle Scalemail and a DPS-Meelee Speed warrior setup.
melee speed is the most broken stat with terra blade
@Human..Being... If you use hallowed mask, shinobi torso, and valhalla legs you get +10% dmg, 30% speed, 35% crit, and 74 defense, a *perfectly balanced* setup
Maybe if it were obtainable after Eater of Worlds/Brain of Cthulhu, it would see more use, post-Skeletron usually has better options (the Phoenix Blaster) but overall it is still a good weapon.
It's great for wof actually. Since it's post-skeletron just get a graveyard and skip the dungeon.
I feel like it should also be mentioned despite being a pre-hm weapon, if you pair it with crystal bullets you can absolutely shred destroyer and fishron early hm
Fishron? 🤯
I'm gonna try this now, thanks for the idea!
I actually wouldn't doubt that this thing shreds fishron, esp if you grab a golden shower. With onyx blaster it's already a super quick and painless kill.
@@adamgarbaczewskiI'd imagine fishron would be easier with this than destroyer bc of defense
I’m sorry.. destroyer? With how little the damage is it ain’t doing anything. Also.. fishron? I mean if you wanna take an hour straight fighting it then sure
you need to use meteor shot as soon as you can the damage buff and the piecing make weapons such as the mini shark (a preboss weapon) be able to take out skeleton with no worry (master mode)
Bouncing shots is also crazy good, makes it a lot higher of chance to hit things
NO WAY Sockrteez hearted my comment!!! 🤯🤯🤯
I'm doing a 'getfixedboi' Legendary Mode Run, and was able to beat King Slime, BoC, Queen Bee, and Skeletron in 18 hours, with a Summoner Loadout. EoC required a bow, though, because I didn't have a Summon yet. In my 'fortheworthy' Legendary Mode Run, Skeletron apparently has anti-cheese measures in place that prevent you from using any ranged weapons against him. And I got 1200 Fallen Stars with a offline Death Save data loophole, and the Star Cannon stars just pinged off *all* bosses with no effect. Sadly, Rangers would have a field day with this mechanic.
Getfixedboi?
@@ZudinGodofWar The Everything Seed. It's a combination of every other secret seed. It has "dontdigup" Remix Format, with "notthebees" Hives and "notraps" Trap systems combined with "fortheworthy" difficulty and boss effects. It also is freaking insane to travel in because of how deadly it is. On the Surface, which is completely corrupt AND crimson, enemy spawns are 5X higher. You start with 30% of the world tainted, and you start in the safest place to be there... the Underworld. In Mushroom Biomes, you can find Crispy Honey Blocks which will set you on fire like Hellstone and even drop lava when mined. Red Potions will work, though, which makes it 40% easier to traverse, but get ready to freaking scream at the Dungeon, which has one tiny opening under a tree on the Surface. You have to fight Skeletron inside a cramped space unless you have a Molten Pickaxe to mine the Dungeon Bricks. EoW becomes stupidly hard to kill, in that you have to stay Underground to be safe from the mob swarms above. BoC has 'fortheworthy' seed gravity flip on phase 2, and you will have a total meltdown fighting without platforms, as you are upside down. Golem has 'fortheworthy' hyperactivity, and the Lihzahrd Temple is on the Surface... and the entrance is, too. The Lihzahrd Temple is twice it's normal size (fortheworthy) and Queen Bee Larvae can be found anywhere in the world (notthebees). If you try this, you might want to -armor your gaming- -setup to make it safe from- -sledgehammer blows, and also wear- -a hat so you don't tear your own hair out- play a 'fortheworthy' seed playthrough first, so you can get the hang of Legendary Difficulty. "fortheworthy" is very fun once you get past WoF, and for WoF, you might want to demolish an entire 1/3 of the Underworld so that Fire Imps won't spawn. Because Fire Imps will spawn, Imps with 857 HP and fire 3X speed Fireballs that can't be blocked and deal 100 damage a hit.
It kinda does well on the wof, so you gotta give it some credit /:
4:20 ah yes my favorite weapon. Bullet spit
This doesn't have anything to do with the weapon's performamce but the outro section with no cooldown is so beautiful
sockrteez never fails to make me combust
Honestly it's still incredibly strong. When i played in Master Mode For the Worthy with my friend, we defeated Wall of Flesh with ease using them with meteor bullets on first try.
Quad-barrel shotgun carried me through my first master mode WoF kill. I was using meteor shots and necro armor, with lots of mobility accessories. I made the hell's ceiling high so that the spread of bullets will hit all three parts of WoF, and the meteor shots provide piercing which allows me to ignore the hungers and focus on dodging the lasers. During the whole fight I was aiming at the general direction of the mouth and kept running . It's a bit time_taking, but it surely is safe and fun.
When you are showing the weapon with insane use speed, I feel like this bullet shower should be like some extreme weapon in some modded terraria (if it already isn’t)
I feel like it's not that nerfed, but still it being locked after skeletron sucks. But I prefer boomstick more due to accuracy but I haven't tried the quadbarrel in the 1.4.4 update
Yes, The Bee's Knees is an Overpowered bow. It's a favorite.
If you’re doing a ranger only playthrough, the QBSG is a fantastic close quarters weapon, especially with its massive knockback
The way the defense is calculated makes this a damage nerf per shot against any enemy with more than 4 defense (2 defense in Master mode)
Two things:
A: You're not including ammo damage in this. Regular musket balls add 7 damage *per pellet*, which makes it 21x8=166 damage while the pre-"nerf" is 31x4=124 damage.
B: Enemies do *not* gain the same change to damage reduction as players in expert and master mode, so the defense required for the old version to be stronger is not affected by it.
@@Tyrian3k a: yeah your Right that would still make it less damage for any enemy with more than 11 defense though which is most of them.
B: are you sure about that, I was very sure enemy defense works the same as the player in master mode? If not i know they at least have much higher defense than in normal mode.
@@markemad1986yes, enemy defense is the same on Master and Expert
@@markemad1986 Depends on what you're looking at explicitly. If you look at it per shot, enemies actually need 22 defense for the old and new to break even in terms of damage, which is more than just about any pre-HM enemy has.
If you go with raw DPS, the value is 10 defense for Musket Balls, 12 for Meteor Shot and 14 for Silver/Tungsten Bullets.
Additionally, with twice the projectiles, you get a lot more knockback out of the gun as well.
In HM, enemies will have more defense, of course, but you can practically instantly replace it there anyway. For beating things like the dungeon, Deerclops or the WoF, it does just as much damage or more.
Overall, it's not much of a nerf outside of being put behind Skeletron.
And yes, whether you play classic, expert or master, how enemies' defense factors into your damage remains the same.
i did a gun-only playthrough, and it took me 13 tries the beat wof until i used the quad barrel. i still love that gun to this day.
I love the end of the videos when you turn the god mode on. So satisfying
This is one of those weapons that despite being nerfed into the ground it still has some decent use in certain situations, so its still got some use for how early you can get it
When/if are you going to do a max summon damage video?
Never tried that because the boomstick is almost the same as the quadbarrol shotgun
At 2:49 what are those Bullet effects on Impact! i need to know where you got this from
"soup-pars star shotter"
what was the little + thing that shot out of your gun every once in a while im new and i want to know what it is
Great video and yeah the stormtrooper gun lol
socrateez how do you make your weapon fire so rapidly at the end of your videos?
no joke i was actully doing a shotgun only play through like right now while you made this
Can you do a review on the Hive-five? I’d love to see your take on it
great vid once again!
What is that skeleton like thing thats comes after every time u shoot with weapon? Why don't i know that can someone explain pls
I used it on my very first mastermode world before it was nerfed and _man_ do I miss it
OF course you were talking about quarter barrel shotgun! Uhm, actually never heard of it before lol
what is the mod called he used in the end of the video
Can you do a video about the queen bee expert mode mounth? I think it is really interesting in progression!
4:20 what mod do you use to do this?
I want the unnerfed Black Spot back, give it an effect if a boss is alive or smth but i wanna cruise across the world again
I don't think I've ever seen this weapon before lol
4:19 calamity ranged weapons be like
Great vid! Great Channel!
octo-barrel shotgun actually sounds sick as hell
I didn't even know this gun existed
how do you hide the shield of Cthulhu
Whats the additional shuriken shot that occurs? Can't remember an accessory that does that so it must be a 1.4.4 addition?
Bone glove from skeletron expert drop, it got reworked from a weapon to an accessory
@@Cursy0501 ah thank you!
I couldn’t hit the wall of flesh at all when I used it. Never used it since
What is that mod you use at the end of every video? (I assume it’s a mod, and not one of your crazy max dps load outs, right? 😂)
I like to use it with meteorite shot, 8 bullets with a single bounce makes a pretty big difference
Suits well with meteor bullet
For a second I read this as "Did nerds destroy this Terraria weapon?" lol
did sock forgot the thumbnail
Will u please make max summoner damage vid please :)
Tbh it isn’t that bad but the skeleton needing to be defeated is the biggest “nerf” since the damage values actually scaled upwards. They reduced damage slight but gave it more pellets 24x4 (96) and ending in 14x8 (112) harder to benefit from the insane spread it’s honestly stronger if you can get them to all connect
I always get this wepon in my play throughs
Laser machine gun review when?
I got this thing early in my first run in the patch it was released in. That shit was absurdly broken, and very fun. I’m of the opinion that they don’t need to nerf as many weapons as they do, it’s a sandbox, if I wanna get an op weapon, let me. That said it was nuts
Just wait until he discovers the bullet filled shotgun in calamity mod
You literally have to stand inside of a large enemy to hit all the bullets
After my 5+ years of playing terraria I am just discovering this weapon...how...?
I was gonna bring up the meteor shot for wall of flesh battles, but someone already did that so uh, listen to them.
Your videos never fail to make me edge violently, sock
Its basically a melee weapon with some range and uses bullets.
I dont know why the quad barrel shotgun isnt like, a lategame shotgun upgrade.
the ranged weapon that may work better as knife
I almost only use this weapon against regular enemies with lots of health across the world. It's really useful while exploring Crimson in Get Fixed Boi worlds.
I'm currently doing a 'getfixedboi' Legendary Mode Run, as a Summoner, and I have to say, the Crimson is so much safer than the Corruption. I actually tried traversing the Surface halfway across the world just to get to the corrupt chasms for loot. Why? Well, the Devourers are my doom every time. That, and World Feeders.
still a fire weapon
Petition to change the name to octo-barrel shotgun or have the quad as a matter to make this
Do you still use lights and shadows or something else? I feel like the 1.4.4 version of the mod is extremely buggy and looks horrible sometimes
Yep still use it, haven’t had any issues so far :)
How about a video on Onyx Blaster? Not super powerful, but there is something satisfyingly perfect about that gun... It's also based on a NERF gun, regardless of what ReLogic claims :D
I believe he's made a video on it before
@@seandoroja907ah my bad will look it up, thanks!
Just hide under Deerclops and almost all the pellets will hit
I personally never liked the boomstick or qbs
I say they should keep it as it is, but change its progression again to being either post-Eye or post-Brain/Eater.
i mean you can buy minishark in day one and that weapon is multiple times better than this pre skeletron one.
I’m gonna be honest, the only thing I’ve learned about graveyards is they make your screen look depressing and a ton of Abigail’s flowers appear for no reason
Abigail's flowers appear because there's a bunch of graves.
the biome also allows zombies to start spawning in daytime
Use quad barrel shotgun with meteor bullet lol I can even beat skeleton prime with it
What? i still use this wepon in my runs
The quad barrel is just… awful now. It’s performance is fine imo what really kills it is that Post Skeletron issue, it’s just not a good weapon against WoL, the ONLY boss before hardmode after skeletron. It’s such a great skeletron weapon too tbh should be post EoW/BoC or Queen Bee
why would you fight deerclops AFTER skeletron?? seems very redundant at that point it should be fought before brain of cthulhu
Having not ever touched this weapon until after 1.4.4., I think this weapon is still plenty competent. Of course it doesn't do all that great against hordes because of it's spread, but I will say I really underestimated this weapon until I saw the sheer amount of bullets it fires at once. Despite its nerfs, I think it's still one of the best prehardmode ranged weapons, under the likes of the Star Cannon of course
This opinion comes from someone that does not touch the ranged class regularly if at all
hey atleast it is a material on calamity mod.......yeah who would have thought😅
Not really a ranger but seems it’s balanced now
I honestly completely forgot about this weapon since release.
The damage values if you hit every shell was buffed with each update. Here is the damage you would get if every shell hit: (ordered in each patch)
96
102
112
might not be the best gun but it’s hella fun to use with chlorophyte bullets
it definitely deserves the nerf but i don’t think it’s nerfed to the ground
yes
Such a good weapon on release, such a shame what they did to it 😢
Day 21 of being that one guy who asks that one question until sockr aswers us
what's the name for the last mod where the gun has no cooldown for their attacks?
Shot gun
Day 1 of asking for Blade Staff review
The comment about the tooltip not matching knocked me right out of the video for how wrong it is... Then I remembered sockreteez isn't American so he has no reason to know how shotguns work
"Utterly nerfed to the ground"? I really don't see it.
In 1.4, it dealt 24x4=96 damage Now it deals 14x8=112 damage.
But wait! We're forgetting something: Ammo!
Just using musket balls, which deal 7 damage, it's actually 31x4=124 for the original version vs. 21x8=166 for the "nerfed" version.
Even when taking enemy defense into account, enemies will need to have 22 defense before the old version breaks even in terms of damage per shot at 4x20=80 and 8x10=80 respectively.
When considering fire rate in addition, things get a bit closer and enemies will have to have 10 defense for the old version to begin outpacing the new version at 16x8/55=2.29 damage/tick vs 26x4/45=2.31 damage/tick. Keep in mind that the amount of defense of enemies needed to break even will increase with bullets that deal more damage as well.
Another thing to consider is that 8 pellets means up to 8 instances of knockback as well, meaning far better crowd control capabilities than the old version.
Either way, since the number of enemies that have that much defense in pre-HM is relatively low, I *really* wouldn't call this a nerf at all. It's actually more of a buff than a nerf.
I always wanted to try this weapon but I was too lazy to make a graveyard
though i dont exactly swear by it, this thing is my favorite option against the wall of flesh solely because youre essentially guaranteed to hit something with its super wide spread
7.8/10, needs more bullets.
NoOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
И да привысь фпс до 150-160 так лучше видео топ
Who's Reggie?
This weapon has never been the same since. I used to use it a ton
Nerf or nothing
This thing it's all right to this day but it needs a little bit of a buff
isTHATaliasVITAL?
I think quad barrel still goes brrrrrrrrr.