Is Oilers lack of scoring during 5-on-5 play concerning?

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • How do you feel about Arturs Silovs in this series? How do you feel about Stuart Skinner in this series? How concerning is the Oilers lack of scoring 5-on-5? How impressed are you with Elias Lindholm’s play? TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button joins Jay Onrait to share his thoughts.
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  • @1983skeletor
    @1983skeletor Před 25 dny +71

    Button looks pissed his pick is getting out goalied, zero depth and out coached. Canucks fans knew they had the edge here. This isn't surprising

    • @G_Ellis606
      @G_Ellis606 Před 25 dny

      Yup...he's an idiot

    • @omfg322
      @omfg322 Před 25 dny +13

      It took 3 missed 5min majors, canucks own dman sabotaging them and their 3rd string goalie to win their first game against the canucks all season

    • @barstar888
      @barstar888 Před 24 dny +4

      lol, it’s only been 3 games. You can tell Canucks fans aren’t used to being in the playoffs. Calm down, all things are possible with McDavid

    • @strawpaladin213
      @strawpaladin213 Před 24 dny

      I would not say being outshot 94-51 in the series is feeling all that great actually. I'm cheering for the Canucks and I predicted them to win in seven, but if they continue this trend They will lose the series. This could easily be a 3-0 Edmonton or Vancouver lead in the series, That's just how close this series has been so far.

    • @xboxrules8472
      @xboxrules8472 Před 24 dny +2

      Remember the flames record when button was their GM? Hahahahahaha!

  • @neostar63
    @neostar63 Před 25 dny +58

    No one should be surprised. Their schtick has always been riding McDrai and hanging on for dear life.
    Two generational future hall of famers does not make a championship lineup.

  • @unplugged123
    @unplugged123 Před 25 dny +47

    maybe its not "lack of depth scoring". maybe its the canucks playing excellent 5v5

    • @janituokko3811
      @janituokko3811 Před 25 dny +5

      its still lack of depth scoring whether whatever the reason is for that. An u cant win in playoffs if only first line and pp gets the goals

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 Před 25 dny +3

      The Oilers lack of depth scoring has been an issue well before this series. They've only scored 2 goals in these playoffs where neither McDavid or Draisaitl were on the ice. That's a problem. And it's been a problem the past few years. Vegas exposed their lack of scoring depth last year. Once they learned to not give the Oilers PPs, they exposed them as a one dimensional team and manhandled them 5-on-5.

    • @strawpaladin213
      @strawpaladin213 Před 24 dny +1

      @@pomerlain8924 This is more about Vancouver in 5v5 and Goaltending. Edmonton's depth players are playing well but just can't put it in the net. Nuge has 10 points and is a +/- of zero so far in the playoff primarily shutting down the Opposing team. Those are good numbers! But the depth dries up after that... especially when you look at the +/-. just about every other Oiler is a liability on the ice outside of the Top 6 point getters. You are right that Vancouver is Exposing the lack of depth though! You have to Credit Vancouver for recognizing the weaknesses in the oilers and exploiting those weaknesses. They've really hit Ceci and Nurse hard on the stats sheet so far this series.

    • @cackoocacho1629
      @cackoocacho1629 Před 24 dny +1

      That's relative. If the canucks are playing great 5 on 5, then obviously edmonton is lacking great 5 on 5. Two different ways of saying the same thing.

    • @JBrix86
      @JBrix86 Před 24 dny

      It's a "lack of playing the depth" too

  • @Nickh4929
    @Nickh4929 Před 25 dny +84

    Where are all the "oilers in 5" people at now??😂😂😂

    • @billytessio6326
      @billytessio6326 Před 25 dny +22

      Gone. The "Oilers in 6" people are next on the chopping block.

    • @T.D.-nurf0820
      @T.D.-nurf0820 Před 25 dny +5

      dEdmonton coiLers 🤣

    • @chucknorris172
      @chucknorris172 Před 24 dny

      God Vancouver fans are the worst breed and I'm not even an oiler fan. Stfu already guys, you haven't won anything yet.

    • @shawn9297
      @shawn9297 Před 24 dny +3

      I'm still here lol 😆

    • @T.D.-nurf0820
      @T.D.-nurf0820 Před 24 dny +2

      @@shawn9297 L

  • @kevins862
    @kevins862 Před 24 dny +16

    Button looks flabbergasted at the success of the nux thus far

    • @lindsayseal8504
      @lindsayseal8504 Před 24 dny +1

      Pretty sure Button is flabbergasted by motion sensor lights

    • @xboxrules8472
      @xboxrules8472 Před 24 dny +2

      button picked Canucks over nashville.

  • @Eleutherios1
    @Eleutherios1 Před 25 dny +9

    The better team is winning.... they are now 6-1 vs edmonton this season.

  • @LFC-mr6yb
    @LFC-mr6yb Před 25 dny +19

    Oilers are just the Leafs but instead their stars show up sometimes. Stars carry them, no defense, no goalie.

    • @disinformationworld9378
      @disinformationworld9378 Před 24 dny +1

      The difference is what division they play in. Weak.
      Western conference was much worse this year too.

    • @CdnElJefe
      @CdnElJefe Před 24 dny

      Their stars always show up in the playoffs. They are tied for 3rd fastest to 90 playoff points in NHL history. They both have a higher points per game in the playoffs than the regular season which is super rare, not even Wayne or Mario did that.

  • @0oCyrilo0
    @0oCyrilo0 Před 24 dny +7

    I was so excited when Canucks got Lindholm, glad it’s starting to show!

  • @PacificNorthwest777
    @PacificNorthwest777 Před 24 dny +4

    This is so funny. Analysts were saying Van was gonna get steamrolled. Van fans all knew we have far better D and goaltending, and that our offence was dramatically underestimated. Not to mention just the brutal grind Van brings to the table. More pain for Edmonton fans to come.

  • @anthonyheinrichs8322
    @anthonyheinrichs8322 Před 24 dny +10

    It's like pulling teeth to get these guys to say anything actually positive about the Canucks. It's always excuses for why the Canucks are winning

    • @FlyingBirdman
      @FlyingBirdman Před 24 dny

      Because the series should be 3-0 oilers. Canucks luck will run out

    • @kingbud4966
      @kingbud4966 Před 24 dny

      ​@FlyingBirdman 3-0 for Vancouver. They don't even have demko right now lol

  • @nawtty8864
    @nawtty8864 Před 24 dny +6

    What an absolute plug Button is.

    • @lindsayseal8504
      @lindsayseal8504 Před 24 dny +1

      He waived Marty St Louis, traded Giguere in order to protect Fred Brathwaite and traded Marc Savard for a guy that never played a day in the league. Worst G.M. in Flames history

    • @sktoh4469
      @sktoh4469 Před 24 dny

      What's a plug?

    • @nawtty8864
      @nawtty8864 Před 24 dny

      @@sktoh4469 Button. He’s an idiot

  • @silent0snipe4
    @silent0snipe4 Před 25 dny +24

    Leafs of the west here we go again

    • @Ace96x10
      @Ace96x10 Před 24 dny

      Oilers are in the second round, leafs don't make it that far.

    • @bryanwouters443
      @bryanwouters443 Před 24 dny +1

      @@Ace96x10 ya because the oliers get gifted LA kings every fist round 🤣🤣

    • @strawpaladin213
      @strawpaladin213 Před 24 dny +1

      @@bryanwouters443 I doubt Vancouver would be doing well against LA. Oilers just match up well against them, just like Boston matches up well against Toronto. The Leafs would Fair much better against florida First round then Boston even though Florida matches up better against Boston. Every team has certain playstyles they do well against and others they do not... Vancouver is a tough out for Edmonton because of the way Vancouver plays the game. The best teams find a way to Match up well against everybody over a 7 game series...

    • @xboxrules8472
      @xboxrules8472 Před 24 dny +1

      @@strawpaladin213 Yeah right, Demko or Silovs against Talbot, c'mon......

    • @strawpaladin213
      @strawpaladin213 Před 24 dny +1

      @@xboxrules8472 Vancouver has a terrible record against LA . LA is 6-1-3 in their past 10 vs Vancouver

  • @royymartyy
    @royymartyy Před 25 dny +11

    97 had almost 30min TOI and still didn’t score 😂 can’t rely on him, Hymen or Drai when you’re triple shifting them …

    • @carletonrutherford1799
      @carletonrutherford1799 Před 25 dny +7

      Both him and Draisaitl played almost 30 minutes. Keep it up, LOL! Even if they some how managed to win the series they will be so gassed by the time they play the Avalanche or Stars, that they will have nothing left.

    • @coryjohn4057
      @coryjohn4057 Před 24 dny +3

      That's because he is exhausted.

  • @zigfield723
    @zigfield723 Před 25 dny +10

    Bottom line the Oilers are lacking, even if they win this series, no way chance are they a Stanley Cup championship team.

  • @ShaneDavid-is7te
    @ShaneDavid-is7te Před 25 dny +18

    What happened to the sweep 23 outta 24 tsn and sportsnet analysts predicted, saying an easy series win for the soilers

    • @strawpaladin213
      @strawpaladin213 Před 24 dny +2

      Let's be honest... They pay WAY too much attention to statistics. The series should be 2-1 Oilers statistically. They Paid too much attention to the predictive models saying Vancouver has almost no chance. Anybody who watched any of the games vs the Oilers this season would know the matchup is wrought with problems for the Oilers however. The Goaltending edge and Defense goes heavily to the Canucks, and The forwards are edge to Oilers only on the First line...

    • @headintheclouds6935
      @headintheclouds6935 Před 24 dny +1

      Saying that after the oilers got regularly season swept was pure delusion

  • @nobuddy2012
    @nobuddy2012 Před 24 dny +5

    If the Canucks could stay out of the penalty box, it would be almost over.

  • @rdeh1678
    @rdeh1678 Před 25 dny +8

    Buttons is the the cnn reporter of tsn very biased angry lil man

  • @Ace96x10
    @Ace96x10 Před 24 dny +4

    The Van Goalie has brutally outplayed Skinner. Oilers 1 line is enough to win with even half decent goaltending vs Van, but they aren't getting even that from Skinner.

  • @twifightsparkill
    @twifightsparkill Před 25 dny +2

    Craig Button is an icon. I'm quietly delighted that he's a media consultant because I adore his intelligence and knowledge? Also he's easy on my old horse eyes. GO CANUCKS GO! 🤟🦄✨♥️

    • @ShawnLangford
      @ShawnLangford Před 24 dny +4

      What in the world?

    • @seal9454
      @seal9454 Před 24 dny +5

      ​@@ShawnLangford LOL I had the same reaction.

  • @Wafflenobs
    @Wafflenobs Před 24 dny +5

    Oilers have always been nothing but powerplay merchants and a 2 player team. They have no depth. They have no goaltending. The Canucks would sweep these clowns if Demko was healthy.

    • @seal9454
      @seal9454 Před 24 dny +3

      100%. We probably would have been up 3-0 in the series if it wasn't for Ian Cole's unfortunate own-goal in OT in game 2.

  • @omfg322
    @omfg322 Před 25 dny +3

    They keep playing their 1st line for half the game fatigue will set in eventually. You could also say skinner being played every game is wearing him out.

  • @eonk5703
    @eonk5703 Před 24 dny +1

    i kept telling myself to not watch the game, so i succumbed to just watching an iphone app score board watching
    when oils scored a goal with 2 minutes left, each remaining second felt like eternity to me. whoa we won! so happy!!!

  • @UnhingedCanadian
    @UnhingedCanadian Před 24 dny +2

    I’m just gonna say this. The oilers haven’t had a great goalie since Dwayne Roloson since then they’ve been through a ton of goalies and you know who’s been there the whole time Dustin Schwartz their goalie coach when does he get fired??? Our goalie coach clearly sucks at his job but he’s friends with the owners so he stays. Old boys club in Edmonton still.

  • @tylerdurden4006
    @tylerdurden4006 Před 24 dny +1

    Does Edmonton even get shots when they are not on the powerplay?

  • @ML-my8qq
    @ML-my8qq Před 24 dny +2

    Silovs is bailing his team out. Skinner is not.

  • @HamptonHelly
    @HamptonHelly Před 24 dny +3

    Skinner should make a coupe of saves but fuck do the oilers leave him out to dry all time I’m looking at blocked shots, hits, faceoffs the canucks always finish their checks

  • @denizdowntown6385
    @denizdowntown6385 Před 24 dny +4

    cope harder Button.. he looks like he wants to cry

  • @tylerthomas709
    @tylerthomas709 Před 24 dny +4

    LETS GO NUCKS

  • @Odysseus38
    @Odysseus38 Před 25 dny +4

    Craig button....the canadian darren pang....biggest joke in the NHL reporter circle..

  • @StreetFig
    @StreetFig Před 24 dny

    I hope they keep going after McDiver in game 4. Keep grinding him into the dirt and close out the series in 5

  • @Xyy2387
    @Xyy2387 Před 25 dny +2

    Button is livid. LOL. No shit, top heavy with goalie vs. balanced with team defense. You should've bet on the latter.

  • @ekdnlt
    @ekdnlt Před 24 dny +1

    Sensing a strong bias for Edmonton. I guess he is entitled to his opinion.

  • @cackoocacho1629
    @cackoocacho1629 Před 24 dny +1

    What kind of stupid title is that? Lack of 5 on 5 scoring is concerning for any team in any regard.
    "Is the lack of competent goaltending 5 on 5, concerning for Team X?" 😆
    Never change, TSN. You guys are the most hilarious in the business.
    Also, never learn what audio mixing is either. It's always a lottery with what exponent of volume boost will be required for your videos. 🍻

  • @roguetrooper6205
    @roguetrooper6205 Před 24 dny +1

    Same old story with the Oilers going on for years, like the Maple Leafs and their continuing saga in the East.

  • @alexandermacdougall7873
    @alexandermacdougall7873 Před 25 dny +8

    No way this canuck team loses 3 of the next 4. Two (if it goes seven) are in Vancouver.
    Canucks are getting in Edmonton's head.
    They're winning with their (supposed) top two goalies out. Demko due back almost any time.
    Oilers are all but toast.

    • @shinuku77
      @shinuku77 Před 25 dny +1

      Lets be real here, silovs is not our #3 just because he was third string. Theirs a reason he is in net and not De Smithe. At this point even if Demko gets passed to play you probably leave Silovs in unless you want to give him a break, especially if Demko isn't 100%

    • @IanStrain23328
      @IanStrain23328 Před 24 dny +2

      @@shinuku77 Yeah my dad and I were talking about this during second intermission, I dont think we even play Demko until we know for sure hes 100% with the way Silovs has been playing. Its his crease until Tocc deems necessary that he isnt the guy anymore.

    • @Joseph-T543
      @Joseph-T543 Před 24 dny +1

      @@shinuku77 a 3rd string is a 3rd string. He hasn't even played 10 NHL games before being put in to feed the wolves 🐺

    • @shinuku77
      @shinuku77 Před 24 dny

      @@Joseph-T543 yeah he WAS a third string goalie, now he's our star goalie that's putting the team on his back

    • @Joseph-T543
      @Joseph-T543 Před 24 dny +1

      @@shinuku77 you don't need to correct other people on what a 3rd string goalie means. He is 23. He has never played much hockey in a single season. But now he's in the spotlight. His is still a distant 3rd string goalie. Rick Tocchet didn't know what he would do when Demko and DeSmith were both out with injuries.

  • @lukewould4982
    @lukewould4982 Před 24 dny +2

    Oilers have one line, that’s it.

  • @user-pl8ij9et9w
    @user-pl8ij9et9w Před 25 dny +1

    More you put the kid in more confidence

  • @beingian
    @beingian Před 24 dny

    Why doesn’t TSN make Canucks content?

  • @unknownshopper4024
    @unknownshopper4024 Před 24 dny +1

    I don’t trust skinner and I never have , Mcdri are always hiding the mistakes by scoring

  • @terrycorbeil7941
    @terrycorbeil7941 Před 24 dny

    It should be !! Only time they score is on a power play maybe

  • @fishleaf18
    @fishleaf18 Před 24 dny

    Button said he had zero concern with the Leafs' offense going into the playoffs....

  • @operadad
    @operadad Před 24 dny +1

    Oilers can not beat the Canucks without Kelly Sutherland

  • @disinformationworld9378
    @disinformationworld9378 Před 24 dny +1

    Yeah take away the PP from PP merchants what do you expect would happen?

  • @alexc8294
    @alexc8294 Před 24 dny

    It's obvious these guys at TSN are very pissed 😢 All they talk about is why and how Edmonton should win. There is nothing good about the other team that keeps beating them.

  • @SpaceLord_MtherFcker420
    @SpaceLord_MtherFcker420 Před 25 dny +7

    button wants cry

  • @timw4369
    @timw4369 Před 25 dny +3

    Lack of scoring by anyone other then McDavid and draistl

    • @pushnook
      @pushnook Před 24 dny

      Edmonton Defense has been scoring, other lines besides McDavids needs to step up, not impressed with other forward lines.

    • @Joseph-T543
      @Joseph-T543 Před 24 dny

      Did you watch Mattias Ekholm in this series? 👀 🙈

    • @pushnook
      @pushnook Před 24 dny

      Other lines are still sleeping, Edmonton is now a one line team with a struggling goal tender, may have to break the super line up and unite them only on power plays.

  • @LarryNg-mx8qz
    @LarryNg-mx8qz Před 24 dny

    what is Button's record of teams playing?.. why is he so animated that oilers are not performing... yet when we talks about the Canucks he seems low key

  • @Dub23zero
    @Dub23zero Před 24 dny

    Form out of the window? Silovs no form? How much did he lose?

  • @stevelouis4664
    @stevelouis4664 Před 24 dny +1

    Trade them all - Leaf fans

  • @ozzydo2314
    @ozzydo2314 Před 24 dny +1

    Oilers had 1 high danger chance.

  • @andreisison9256
    @andreisison9256 Před 24 dny

    Short Answer: Yes
    Long Answer: Hell Yes

  • @BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty
    @BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty Před 24 dny

    Don’t bother watching the video the answer is yes.

  • @jesscasalla224
    @jesscasalla224 Před 24 dny +3

    buttons looks miserable again . as a matter of fact all of TSN's panel always looks miserable whenever the oilers lose.. sad

  • @GarthCamp
    @GarthCamp Před 25 dny

    Yes

  • @8888ate
    @8888ate Před 24 dny

    1 line won't cut it.

  • @mickeymikkelson5337
    @mickeymikkelson5337 Před 24 dny +1

    settle down Craig... he must have money on the oilers

  • @canada1966
    @canada1966 Před 24 dny +1

    It’s okay mcdavid will play 50 mins next game 😂

  • @BobsUruncle-dl7cs
    @BobsUruncle-dl7cs Před 24 dny

    Craig Button does not have the Systems Analysis experience @ any level to tell you whats happeneing in this series beyond the eye-test.....the Canucks are Outcoaching the Oilers badly, and the Oiler System was deconstructed last year completely but not improved....there is no reason to expect a better result than last year ....Oilers ownership gambled that Skinner would grow and evolve into a Playoff Goalie and that was all they were missing...to expect that after last years meltdown of record proportions was skethchy @ best.

  • @chrisnelson2770
    @chrisnelson2770 Před 24 dny +2

    Canucks would be 3-0 with Demko healthy

    • @brucecarter6205
      @brucecarter6205 Před 24 dny

      Shilovs is the only reason that it’s not 3-0 for the Oilers.🤦‍♂️

    • @chrisnelson2770
      @chrisnelson2770 Před 24 dny +1

      @@brucecarter6205 yet imagine if we had our Vezina calibre goaltender 🤔. Pretty pathetic on the Oilers part

    • @brucecarter6205
      @brucecarter6205 Před 24 dny +1

      @@chrisnelson2770 no, getting badly outshot, outplayed, and dominated by a team with 1 good line is embarrassing. Imagine what this series would look like if the Canucks had Skinner.🤣

    • @chrisnelson2770
      @chrisnelson2770 Před 24 dny

      @@brucecarter6205 badly out shot? Sure. Badly out played? Nah.
      Oilers can't even beat our AHL goalie without the help from tank commander Ian Cole 😂.
      Canucks have been winning 1 goal games in the third period all season, because we can actually play team defense.
      Why would I imagine what we'd look like with Skinner? We'd never sign him. 🤔
      You should be crying tears of joy that Demko isn't in net and you've got an actual chance of winning

    • @brucecarter6205
      @brucecarter6205 Před 23 dny

      @@chrisnelson2770 with Demko in net the Oilers would be up 3-0. As I said, Silovs is the ONLY reason the series sits at 2-1 for the Canucks.

  • @JBrix86
    @JBrix86 Před 24 dny

    How TF are they going to score if they don't play?

  • @johnnymacrae1069
    @johnnymacrae1069 Před 24 dny

    Not sure Craig knows what the "rope-a-dope" strategy entails...

  • @mvgamer9637
    @mvgamer9637 Před 24 dny +1

    It's no secret this goes back to last year's playoffs. The way to beat Edmonton is to play them five on five

  • @bradenahmet343
    @bradenahmet343 Před 24 dny

    The oilers need to be better , coaching , 2,3 & 4th lines …. The only people doing well is Boosh, Ekholm , Hyman , Drai and McD… every1 else sucks . Put pickard in net , stop playing the Russian 5 for 30min a game , we need lots of players to step up

  • @MrPchui
    @MrPchui Před 24 dny

    he know shxt. oiler is leaf 2.0 or worst after 6 yrs top 3 draft pick still empty hands since 2010 and 5 plus top 10

  • @atrealdino6667
    @atrealdino6667 Před 24 dny

    KO HOE 🍄

  • @Joseph-T543
    @Joseph-T543 Před 24 dny +1

    Hey Button! Cry moreeee

  • @tectonictv8274
    @tectonictv8274 Před 24 dny

    Button is a complete hack

  • @harmangill7509
    @harmangill7509 Před 25 dny +3

    I cant see either of these teams beating the winner of DAL/COL

    • @alexandermacdougall7873
      @alexandermacdougall7873 Před 25 dny +11

      A lot of people didn't see Vancouver beating Nashville,and even more saw Edmonton practically sweeping Vancouver, yet here we are

    • @hammatymee
      @hammatymee Před 25 dny +6

      Yeah vancouver is too underrated they know how to get it done on both sides of the ice.

    • @harmangill7509
      @harmangill7509 Před 25 dny

      @alexandermacdougall7873 I said canucks oilers was gunna go 7 and it's a coin flip. Oilers have game breakers at forward in their top 6, canucks have a good team throughout the roster. But Dallas and Collorado have both these things.

    • @GreenBeanGreenBean
      @GreenBeanGreenBean Před 25 dny +2

      @@harmangill7509 Canucks were the president trophy leaders for over half the season..... they can ball with Dallas/Colorado no problem.

    • @pomerlain8924
      @pomerlain8924 Před 25 dny +1

      ​@@GreenBeanGreenBeanThey've only beaten those 2 teams, combined, 1 time this season.

  • @NVPasutto
    @NVPasutto Před 24 dny +1

    Put it this way, the oilers have won one game against this team all year…. And it came from Ian Cole fucking up on all four goals in game 1 and then the own goal in game 2 😂. Otherwise they have looked like absolute shit 😂.

  • @NVPasutto
    @NVPasutto Před 24 dny

    The spoilers literally play one line over and over lol…. Can’t win championships like that. And Skinner is not a number one goalie not even close. Oilers should check into Latvian beer league goalies, I hear they’re pretty good.