Julia Hartley-Brewer clashes with transgender activist
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- čas přidán 6. 03. 2018
- Should transwomen be allowed to stand for election in constituencies with all women shortlists?
Lily Madigan, Labour's first transgendered women's officer, clashes with Julia Hartley-Brewer over the complex issue of gender politics.
«So if I tell you I’m a black man» - give this woman every award on the planet 😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What? An award for being fucking stupid?😂 Give me a break
Stop the madness now.
I knewit. No problem - walk away from your computer or put down your smartphone or tablet. Madness stopped.
There, that was easy.
Steve Payne
I'd prefer to not to have to resort to impersonating an ostrich.
I knewit. I agree - this is such a joke my gosh its ridiculous
Steve Payne. OR we could just fuck these head cases right off. What do you say son?
😂...
period.
The Labour Party is so over.
Members are leaving in droves (I’m one of them).
Sick and tired of all this BS.
The Labour Party started killing itself a while ago. I’ve friends who are members and they still can’t understand how Corbyn isn’t PM. I’ve tried explaining that it didn’t help when lots of labour MP’s told their northern voters they were thick and racist for voting for brexit. They’re still wondering why the north didn’t vote labour last year....
The Labour Party is just a middle class lefties hobby
@@darrenbetts2987 Corbyn? You're not serious, If our only choices are Corbyn or Comrade Boris than don't vote at all.
@@Leonidas037 read it again. I didn’t say I can’t understand how he’s not. 😉
I'd have in the long ago past been fervently labour orientated, but now vote Tory just to keep these loons out of power.
This is the skeleton of a transgender person... Said no archeologist ever.
actuallyyyyyy, you can tell if someone was on HRT from a skeleton
Smerbo The Fleeb
Won’t have
Forking Brilliant mate...!
Ava White how? Explain please.
@@smerbothefleeb5699 - that source is called delusion...
I just dont feel obligated to pretend that crazy isn’t crazy anymore.
Well said 👏👏👏
Don’t be afraid, it’s called being transgender, trans ppl aren’t crazy, if they were their gender dysphoria would be treated and they wouldn’t be getting hormones from doctors, stfu
I think its absolutely fine for a man to believe and act as a woman. But as soon as he wanted to be treated 100pc as a women in all forms of society is where i have a problem.
because they are talking about the child’s sex and not the gender. there is a different between these things.
@@caee6171 Depends who you ask, what you just said is rather transphobic to some
So Lily wants to be in politics, but he can't even debate. That boy is not qualified for the job.
Perfect for Corbyn's Labour Party. Liam, I mean Lily will give Abacus Abbott a run for her money at the prized prat of the year awards
Willy can't seem to string a sentence together.
His new name is Mumbles , after the Dick Tracy character.. Lol...
CaveMonster
I like Willy! LOL
Peachyoghurt
That thing you mean or IT
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Masterfully Done Julia. Thankfully a Presenter of a talk show who unafraid, speaks for the majority of the Rationality Party.
I feel sorry for women with all this going on. 'Self identifying women' seem to be getting more rights over biological women nowadays.
It certainly feels like that. A new form of misogyny. Men trying to decide the definition of women.
i find it really worrying for lgbt rights, im gay i dont identify with this very rigid intolerant sense that now we can all be a woman /man, many activists try to push it and this one even said gender is all internal.. riiiiiggght.. so my penis is internal? no , no it isnt. not a very clever little activist.
Come on woman let all stand together and tell these transgender the are not woman
You are spot on!
And get the hell out of our bathrooms! Yours can’t be missed, it has Mens written on it!
Lily Madigan is an angry young man. End of. No business in politics.
I'd like to see him have that debate in a mosque.
The intersectionist-feminist-SJW alliance with Islam is one of the most bizarre hand-holdings I've ever seen.
@@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 let them be friends,,,both groups are losing credibility fast
Wouldn't last long.
Trans women are men!
It’s not a fucking joke.
"I'm sorry, the media hasn't told me how to comment on trans-racialism yet. That's next week's class."
I’m pretty convinced that I have been sucked into an alternate dimension at some point. This dimension is similar to the one I grew up in but it’s totally insane. I have no other explanation for the lunacy that I am seeing and hearing every day.....relentlessly.
Part of the problem they're trying to please everyone by being overly inclusive and as a result, it has caused confusion and division.
*alternative. Alternate means to switch repeatedly between two things.
When the world starts pandering to the absurdity of the Lily's in this world, we are doomed
Nothing sense full came out of his mouth
Im a real "Lilli", 😃 and believe they should choose transgendered names not pretty flower names....
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it must be an aubergine.
Yankphobe! I believe it's called an eggplant in the US.
LOL
if theres a queue at the blokes toilets i would exercise my right to call myself a woman and use the ladies bog
🤣🤣
brian goodwin I recognize all those words.... but damn, that required translation 🤣 where’d you learn English?
3:25 Yes! there is a difference between a trans woman and a table! you would get more sense out of a table!
I would be interested to know where the trans boundary lies. A man can be a woman, clearly (durr) and a woman can be a man. But a woman cannot be a table.
Can a white woman be a black man? Can an old man be a young man? Can a 21st Century woman be a 14th Century woman? Can an Oriental man be an African Man? Can a deaf man be a blind woman? Can a Neanderthal be Sapiens? Can an Ape be Sapiens? Can a bull be a cow?
Is it the mode, the mindset or the medication that matters?
@@fezmancomments A man cannot be a woman. He is a man, even if he wears a dress and fantasizes about being one.
@@fezmancomments no, a man cannot become a woman and a woman cannot become a man.
Can you define the terms 'man' and 'woman'?
I think Julia is the bravest black man I have seen on CZcams this morning.
It will all end in tears -----my cousin has got 7 children ---one of each
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
😂
Hilarious 😂
ha
Nice one....LMAO...👍👍
So if you say your cat is a dog you should be able to enter it into Crufts!
Can my Jaguar identify as a Mini for insurance purposes?
I thought I would try something similar in the bank today and tell them I identify my £100 as £100,000 now. Let’s see how that goes.
@pivotset2 Brilliant!
Mr bean entered his Teddy and won.
pivotset2 don’t give them any more stupid ideas lol
Labour Party just keeps on becoming more of a joke each day
A male in a frock is not a female, it's an impossibility. If I put on a collar and eat a gravy bone, I'm not a wire haired terrier. I may feel wholeheartedly that I am one, but it's not a matter for the Kennel Club, it's a matter for the Community Mental Health Team.
Chances are they’d just tell you to have a cup of tea and take a hot bath.
This “BLOKE” is off his effing rocker, why is the media giving this so much coverage ? How about supporting Julian Assange instead of giving oxygen to this lunacy ? !!
There are many other issues that are threat to west Christian civilization...and we are wasting time and effort on this stupid stuff...I mean even intellectual are wasting time on this madness..
Very sad and disgraceful
Off his rocker is absolutely spot on.
actually it is we that are off our rockers in allowing these issues to continue, whether it is Feminism, Transgender issues or the politically correct brigade we as the majority of British citizens should write to our MPs and demand that they act to control this madness ! It seems that the minority have the right to insult the majority and if the establishment do not wish us to take action into our own hands then they must act!!
Oh but shes gooorgeous!!!
@@CarolFremel-my4hs Pet Ugly without a dress is still ugly with one on !!
Julia unapologetically calling a spade a spade. God I love her so much.
Actually I prefer the term "digging implement"
@@chrisf1600 🤣🤣🤣
Chris F very under-rated
Chris F I always preferred landspoon
I call a spade a Kant
The world is becoming a freak show. If I identify as the PM will they let me into NO; 10
Why would she expect reason and logic from that person or that person to admit the utter hypocrisy of his statements?
I love how Julia , on several occasions, with a very straight forward line of Q'ing caused the caller's brain to almost short circuit with the cognitive dissonance created by the Q's , A's, and follow up Q's.
If this person were actually a female, who had been brought up as a girl and looked like a girl and behaved as a girl, there is no way in the world that such a woman, with this level of competence , would have been chosen as women's officer. It's just so insulting that this kid is a woman's officer.
THIS THOUGH.
Jeannie Molloy the same applies to many women right now.
What applies to women right now?
onefour14 That there's only ONE Brad Pitt to fuck when there should be MILLIONS. The fact there's not PROVES that there's too many ugly men and not enough Brad Pitts.
#morebradpittsNOW!
I believe I am Brad Pitt.
Lily was finding it a strain to keep that high pitched voice going after a few minutes.
Listening to this activist, it’s getting more ridiculous by the minute!
Is it ok for a biological man to break the skull of a biological woman in a UFC ring?
I'd suggest, no, it damn well isn't!
Isaac Hunt yes it is. Robin something
@@jamestodd1104 It's ok is it? Moron!
Isaac Hunt no it isn’t.. but it’s happening
@@jamestodd1104 I know it's happening, I asked if it's acceptable
Fallon Fox might disagree. I wouldn't though.
We need more asylums.
This is amazing. It's delightful to hear a show host who is not subscribing to the whole progressivists BS and is using common sense and logic. Instant subscription. I want more. Thank you for being an intelligent sensible woman.
This is a “spokesperson”! No charisma, inarticulate, unintelligible...... if that’s who you want to speak for you then you must be desperate
He and his creepy mates harassed Ann Ruzylo, a tireless trade unionist and lesbian feminist, out of the role, and the entire committee resigned along with her in protest. He only got the job because he's a posh boy with connections.
The boy sounds like a brainwashed cult victim... 😟
Many years ago my younger and spoilt little brother would say, mom, when I was a girl.
He did that for several years, never scolded for it, never teased for it.
He has a partner and a grown up daughter, should we have pampered him and encouraged his child fantasies or were we right by saying nothing and let him GROW OUT OF THAT CHILDISH PHASE.
You was right to leave him developung naturally.
Maybe he remembers a past life ! but yeah thank goodness your parents let it ride !
Sounds more like reincarnation to me.
We really must stop indulging this nonsense.
This is a mad world that’s getting worse by the day.
It seems to even be an attack on being a real woman.
How did we get here? In all of my 43 years, I feel like the world has taken on a very sinister twist. Whatever happened to normal? Why is strange and odd being thrust down the majority's throats?
Feel sorry for future generations
Is it worth having kids anymore
Lily Madigan kicked an actual woman, Anne Ruzylo, out of her position in the Labour party. This is infuriating. And he's 19. 19!
Yes that's his numerical age , his maturity hasn't passed 11 years old yet. Young and dumb and continuing to be so, he is laughable , dangerous rude crude and undesirable.. and older males , Corbyn is endorsing the prick. See what i did there?
Zo Malo how dare he, we all know actual women deserve their special privileges above all others. Don't agree with transgenderism or feminism, both bullshit.
JUST PISS OFF YOU IMMATURE LITTLE BOY .. NO ONE IS GIVING YOU 15 SECONDS OF FAME, YOU USELESS PIECE OF SKIN.
Paint it Black I like your argument, full of good points that require me to confront my biases. You have a real talent there. I don't require my 15 mins of fame, u can have it if u like we all know u deserve it more.
Arguing is one thing; you need to start reading a dictionary first to look up the meaning of words before trying to form sentences, and I don't discuss or debate with immature little boys who are clearly just looking for attention, and another thing , you typing such a statement as "I don't require my 15 mins of fame," also shows me you don't read what someone has written, it's 15 seconds dickhead; you also have ill preconceived ideas that YOU want to Argue.. and are unwilling to discuss or have a debate .
Don't bother replying as you clearly are exactly what I saw you were and an utter waste of my precious time. Be Gone You annoying little snot you ARE far too easy to have a cheap laugh at . Put you bib back on and your dummy back in the stupid mouth, you ridiculous TURD.
sounds to me like Lily is saying to Julia that she cant be a BLACK male. I love it when their own logic backfires.
You can think whatever you want- they literally agreed on it. There isnt a situation where Lilly would get to call Julia a black male in reality. As long as you use sensible pronouns in real life scenario you're fine he/him, she/her and in english they/them
and..explain to me the difference between a naturally born women who "transitions" to a man, and a woman identifying as a black male?
@@Simon-nv5zj It's a pointless polarising example. You wouldnt go outside saying to people youre a black man when youre a white woman especially in a normal conversation- how would it be brought about? Black people are not a gender. What is advocated is that people use pronouns direct in the way how people appear use they/them or just use some basic courtesy and ask. In any conversation there is a point when you will have to use pronouns. People sometimes are born with different brain structure or hormonal imbalance etc. The only difference when youre black is the amount of melanin in your skin and also the culture but its unrelated to yr example
There is a difference in passing but that's not the point- some people transition and they feel closer that their appeareance is what they should but sometimes hormones dont work. This whole thing about black people and apache attack helicopters is just a ridicolous narrative misrepresentation that is hurtful to real trans people- the same way when people say that they shouldnt be let into a bathroom of a gender they identify us or state them as posing a threat.
@@Simon-nv5zj You can also have a different sex on your documents(biological) and be trans since they dont identify as gender assigned at birth. Gender and sex arent the same thing
"I think it`s patronizing to have quotas for women"
Marry me!
And dont get me started on womens day, so cringe makingly patronising.
Sucking up to women isn't going to get you laid fellas
@@silvergirl2847 there’s a whole week for pies.
She is so right!
@@kristos77
Really lol! Probably have better results than insulting them.
Gender is a social construct AND it's internal. How does that work?
Gender IS a social construct. Sex is not. Those who think otherwise are just hijacking the language of feminism without the basic understanding to back it up.
Are you familiar with the Yogyakarta Principles Lana Bateman?
Frankie Sikes Nobody says that. But nice attempt to obfuscate the issue, pigtow.
Beeble Brox everyone says it _ have you not been paying attention?
Logic is form of oppression!
Lily, as a man, can I claim maternity leave if I feel I am pregnant?
"So if I told you I'm a black man..."
I was really digging it when she said that hahaha.
these days I think it's better to live in the middle east than in the West.
This person had a Twitter account in the name of ‘Savilles Apprebtice’. Also a proven liar. The Labour Party needs to vet their office holders more fully
Janet Holden but you have no problem that there's 46 convicted paedophiles in the Labour Party what planet are yous people living on
They are just glad to get a voter and sod what's going on in there pants/heads.
steven wilkins the Labour Party wanted to change the age of consent so it doesn’t surprise me😷😂😂
@@stevenwilkins8828 name them dont accuse people just because you are full of hate
@@kennethperry5500 Harriet Harman wanted it lowered to 13 along with Cherie Blair and Patricia Hewitt! They believe girls especially know better but it's in reality so that dirty old men or women can get away with it!
Oh Julia! She schooled that boy!
*girl
that girl*
And that is the world we now find ourselves in.
We are heading towards a really fucked timeline. Imagine when the next war rolls around and we're drafted in with these head cases and they're expected to stay cool on a battlefield.
Julia, you have not disappointed me ever since I lifted my hat for you.
Thanks for this respectful push back - I think it’s very important. I feel strongly that a small vocal minority of the trans movement are over stepping boundaries in a sort of cultural coup and I can only see it going badly.
Men should NOT be allowed to invade women’s spaces simply by dressing like them and using the correct words.
Nor should they be allowed to compete alongside biological women in sports.
How did the world get here? What happened? Its all crazy.
I identify as a millionaire. But try telling that to my bank account
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This is complete lunacy how F.. Kd up is this world
1 year later more fukced than last year god help us
I am a lamppost on mondays. A dinosaur on Tuesdays. A women on wednesdays cos I go swimming. And rest of week I'll be a man except when I go out on the town.every toilet time I'll change back to a women!!!!!
I'm very left of centre and I despair that the Labour Party is eating itself alive!
The left always eat themselves.
I'm left and I'm dying with this bigotry
I used to be left wing but now I think for myself.
Love you Julia... Keep it up x
On Friday mornings I self-identify as George Best, but I don't think Man Utd will sign me.
It's funny listening to people tie themselves in knots over the "if you can say you're a woman, I can say I'm black" argument.
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I really despair the way our way if life is changing...Total bollocks
I am from the "states" Julia and I just wanted to say excellent!
Unbelievable! These people need desperate help ! Or sectioning ....why do we give them any media platform?
Great show, Julia. You are now my favourite presenter! Thank you for this. You very clearly poked holes in the weaknesses inherent in allowing self ID and took it to it's ridiculous conclusion. Btw, you look pretty good for a table, lol.
And damned fine for a black man.
If there was 5 men claiming to be women and 5 women claiming they were men who would get the job
วงเดือน เชอร์แรทท์ the person with the best tits.
Still one of the gems. Bless you Jim.
Sort it out by an arm wrestling contest.
"I'm a table" 😂😂😂
Here we are being pressured to accept these people for who and what they are…WHY!? These people can’t accept who and what they are!
They force us to accept their delusion to be real. And by now the law is on their side, misgender someone and say bye-bye to your career. Look what they did to J.K. Rowling.
that screwed up boy is just a women hater! Thanks Julia!
*girl
Lilly sounds like a geezer who doesn't know what he thinks...
Typical geezer
*she
she*
@@sc4104 he was born with bollocks, in what way is it a she?
He’s a man and you get replies demanding you to say she. No we won’t be coerced and bullied into saying what we see.
Bravo. If only the BBC still had journalists like her willing to say the Emperor is naked.
Why is this even being discussed?
Can someone pls define "woman" for me? Ppl say a woman is "anyone who identifies as a woman" but nobody actually explains what if means to identify as a woman. I am a woman because of my female biology, I don't have any internal sense of gender identity. I don't understand how a definition of "woman" can exist outside of biology?
And this is the crux of the matter. It's an incoherent ideology. Under trans ideology, basically anyone can just decide they're a woman, or not. There is no single unifying factor between all women. A feminine, makeup-loving, submissive man can be a woman, as can the most masculine, butch lesbian. One identifies as a woman because he likes things society has associated with women, and the role society has pinned onto us, and/or would prefer to have a female body, whereas the other is a woman by virtue of her biology.
Our female biology and age is what unites all of us women (I mention age just because if we're younger, we're girls, not women yet). It doesn't matter whether we conform to gender roles or not, how feminine or masculine we are, we are women regardless, and in a patriarchal world that punishes us and exploits us for being female, it's no laughing matter when people start screwing around with the definitions of words, and obliterating rights we've fought hard for.
Back Space thank you for your reply. I want to support trans people because I can't begin to imagine how horrible it must feel to suffer from sex dysphoria. I have no problem with people undergoing surgery/hormone treatment and I will gladly use someone's preferred name and pronouns. I support trans rights 100% but not if they come at the expense of women's rights (as evidenced by lily madigan!)
I think a lot of people feel as you do. I used to feel more that way myself, but more recently have come to think it's harmful to use preferred pronouns, to refer to trans males as women, etc. I used to believe they were just another kind of woman, but that relegates the term woman to being a social role, and I think that in order to achieve women's liberation, we need to get rid of any concept of "woman as a social role", "man as a social role". The real progressive view is to let all men and women be themselves, to not expect men to be masculine or women to be feminine. I think in that kind of world, people would find their dysphoria easier to deal with, and those who felt they still needed surgery or hormones would still be free to do that.
Man = started out with a willy, Woman = started out with a fanny. Anything else is down to surgery, & if I lose my limbs in an explosion I don't become a snake.
The whole idea of "gender" as something distinct from biological sex is just bogus. The word shouldn't even be applied to human beings. It is a word which really only has meaning in the context of language. It always used to be used just as a grammatical term until quite recently, but it has been appropriated and redefined so that it can be used as the pretext for building a whole pseudo-science and bogus academic discipline.
Who is that bloke on the phone she's talking to?
Some twat
😂😂😂
Labour's women's officer. I metaphorically have my head in my hands while writing this
Only Labour could appoint a man to be a spokesman for women, you couldn’t make it up and they wonder why they’ve lost the last 4 elections. Please keep on doing this kind of thing, at least it gives the rest of us something to laugh at🤣
Just ask him 3 open questions:
In what circumstances does someone born a man become eligible for an all-woman shortlist?
In what circumstances does someone born a woman become ineligible for an all-woman shortlist?
How do your answers to the first two questions combat discrimination against people who have grown up experiencing discrimination against women?
Dear God, All the Brave "Men" that fought and died to Free this country, must be Turning, in their graves, that our country is now a DISGRACE. And has lost its heritage & identity..
Wish I could turn back the years to a "Peaceful, respectable time
"Ok if I tell you im a black man " 💀⚰💀😂
If that sentence alone doesn’t explain how little respect women get... I don’t know what does. Because that would NEVER fly. Nor to say you feel like a child to get access to children’s only safe spaces or junior sports. When you’re the majority and your existence starts being denied and equated to a feeling, it’s a little too obvious lol
color is only a spectrum.
lol at his sputtering. Well done Julia!
3 years later it is still madness
I remember the good old days when Bankers bonuses and MP's expenses were the topic of great debate...now we have this rabbit hole
wow young liam sounded very unsure of hisself there.
That's because he's too young to understand what he actually is. Stupid twat comes to mind when he opens his mouth.
Most mentally ill people of their medication usually are
I could tell you I'm a table, But I'm not a table. brilliant 😂 😂 😂 😂
I told my doctor I identify as a billiard ball. He said 'Then get to the end of the queue'.
@@ivorbiggun710 😅
Couldn't be a table, their argument wouldn't have a leg to stand on 😁
How Monty python were so close to this lunacy in their film the holy grail - French knight at the castle walls shouted "my mother was a hamster and father smelled of elderberries!"
Two sexes: one male and female as they are born. But we live in a world of me me me and feeling driven ideas and so many angry people shouting out you don't agree.
That's Tablephobic - I'm so offended and so are my family of chairs.
This is absolutely absurd and yet it’s hilarious 🤣 🤣🤣!
Stop the world I want to get off now
The loonies have taken over the asylum...
Maybe if Lily repeats the phrase 'Transwomen are women' just a few more times it might just come true. I honestly hope with her incredible debating skills that she will one day become PM and represent the UK at G7. Anything less would be literal violence to beautiful transwomen like her. 👍👍
Sonion ring LMAO 😂😂😂
Agree! Theres a lesbian Fire chief and a lesbian Police chief, and ALSO a muslim Lord mayor in the London met. So it wont be long before Lily gets into power. After all, all she/ he has to do, is turn up for the interview. No PC panel worth their salt would dare turn them down!, 😨. In a serious note, what are we becoming?
HIS
JHB not only an example of a strong, independent Woman, but also of how Women can get sexier with age, just needs the right mindset
She wiped her arse with this clown
You can literally hear his brain working overtime trying to come up with anything to say, yet wants to be an MP... Low bar!
Thst bloke on the phone was talking bollox.
Julia, you wiped the floor with this fool. They made no sense whatsoever!
As a woman, I’m NOT happy with that. And it’s not okay to opt into an oppressed class and take rights and protections afforded to counter that oppression.
Lily doesn't have the 'skills' to defend a delusional position, let's pray it remains that way.
maybe if we had more people like julia in the media then we wouldn’t av to put up with this madness
I identify as a 1927 Model T Ford starting handle. I've always been a crank......😆😅😄😃😂😁😀
If she feels black inside, she can feel it on the outside.
Best interview I've heard in a long time, what a breath of fresh air. One thing, Sex is not gender the two things keep getting confused
This is what happens when spoiled children get away with it
I can say I’m a table but I’m still a woman, Priceless 👍
Gender is internal and not an external presentation? The world is absolutely mad.
That voice, skin crawling
It really is fu@@ing creepy.
The Emperor’s new clothing - you will go along with the delusion.
A human being born as a man - can never, ever, ever, ever - be a woman.......and the same goes the other way round! Did you know that the Americans set up courses in Afghanistan on gender studies for the Afghanistans.......you can imagine how that went!
As soon as you start debating these people, they fall apart. Their arguments hold no weight at all