Episode 9: Clutches - Royal Enfield 650 Twins
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- How does a clutch work? When would you need to upgrade? What are your options? Join us as we look at the Stock Royal Enfield Slipper Clutch and the High-Performance alternative.
NOTE: There is an error at 9:08. When installing the STOCK CLUTCH, only the last drive plate goes in the short spline, NOT THE LAST TWO.
NOTE: The REKLUSE clutch is installed with ALL drive plates in the long spines; NONE go in the short spline.
Time Stamps:
0:00 Opening
0:11 Intro
1:36 Parts of the Stock Slipper Clutch
3:47 How the stock clutch is assembled and how it functions
13.03 When to upgrade, and what are your options?
16:35 What you can expect from the upgraded clutch
18:15 Wrap up
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S and S should make a list of US shops that are trained or certified dealers and installers to ensure customers get the best experience
Love this stuff. One of the reasons I bought a Royal Enfield was the availability of S&S parts and the relative simplicity of the bike. I appreciate your tutelage. I’m a street rider so I’m planning on a camshaft and high compression pistons. I’ll stick with the stock clutch until it poses a problem or I get bored and feel like an upgrade. Thanks for the great videos!
Thanks for watching!
I'm blown away that you have gotten so deep into the 650 and that S&S has such an extensive line of upgrades. Your knowledge of this bike is comforting to those of us who have been sitting on the fence. Definitely want to see some drag race videos!
Excellent video!
A tip for whoever changes their friction plates at home.
ONLY the last friction plate goes into the small teeth of the clutch hub.
When changing mine I assembled the clutch the same way in this video and it caused the clutch to lag and drag.
I've fixed it the way I mentioned above and everything goes smooth now :)
*all plates mentioned are stock plates *
Yep, that's a "blooper". Only the single outer most drive (friction) plate in the stock clutch is installed in the short spline, offset from the long splines, in the clutch SHELL (not the hub).
WOW, those steel liners for the fingers of the clutch basket are such a simple and neat idea....pure genius!
Great Vid.......already looking forward to more from Revelry. Thank You both.
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the review, can't wait to get mine in the bike.
Another great and informative video, well worth the wait! Keep up the good work team !!!!
Thanks for doing this video and for the good info!
Love your videos guys!
Thanks for taking the time to make these, they’re
very educational!
Absolutely love the in depth info with this series, thank you both so much for putting these videos together
So well explained! Thank you
When I say I saw your video in recommend videos and I scream yeah!! I’m not lying 😂
🤣 LOVE the enthusiasm mate! Good to be back
VERY USEFUL and detail INSTALL video !! thank you for upload this !
After all these years and now I finally know how a clutch works. Cheers guys!
Excellent video! I had a vague idea of how the slipper/boost worked but now it is crystal clear!
Glad you liked it!
Well explained.... superb video 😇
Very good jl
I was desperately waiting for ur video🥺🥺
Informative , Thankyou
A step in the future when I get Motor upgrade after warranty is done and a few more dollars saved , Thanks again
Very very good video, thank you
Love the videos thanks from the isle of wight England 👍
keep it up
So, I've kind of got this series a little bit out of order for one reason or another, the visuals of the differing clutch packs and mechs/springs are so informative, even to someone who's 'been around the block' mor than a few times and understands carburettors and also knows what a choke is for! Keep up the good work and keep those 'vids' coming.
Perhaps in the future you could include some custom bike and/or motor builds and show the dyno charts with different options of how the 'mix and match', can/will alter the engines characteristics, horsepower and torque etc?
Looks like I need to add a S&S Cycle/Rekluse clutch kit to my 865 build.
Hello
I'm so much waiting for the S&S cycle 2:1 Full exhaust system Video.
Transmission. Video about finding the right sprocket and plate. Idea? And then how to "launch" yourself at the starting line. Will help all of us get away from the traffic light first. ;-)
Excellent series. Really digging it. I personally live in the "hill country" of Central Texas, within riding range of Circuit of the Americas. Weekends are twisty road work or track days, and I'd like to do them on a Continental GT. In my case, brakes and suspension are a bigger deal than raw power. Could you do a series on suspension tuning and brake performance for track people or knee-draggers? If that is outside of your comfort zone, is there a particular source, channel or shop you'd recommend I check out for the RE 650 crowd?
Thank you so much for all of the time you guys spend informing us about Royal Enfield's. I have a new 2021 Continental GT 650(less than 300 miles). I have not been happy with the clutch at all. The clutch does not engage until the last little bit of movement from the lever. I have purchased the S&S clutch plate kit hoping for better clutch engagement. I have the stock motor with a K&N air filter and the S&S slip-ons without the decibel reducer inserted. I don't expect more torque I just hope the clutch performs better? Does the S&S clutch kit come with instructions? Thanks again for all you do!!!
Very well explained and will help for my GT. Location please..
Hi… Kiran here from Bangalore, INDIA. A big fan of your channel and I really appreciate the contents shared, as they are very informative!! I have built a 850 interceptor with 89mm piston and the bike runs beautifully! As a next project I am planning to increase the load on the clutch by installing a washer(s) to the springs. Please let me know if this would work and make a difference or is there any other way I can increase clutch spring load?!? Thanks in anticipation!
Hi. I've seen you a lot at drag strip and also saw a lot of RE riders participated in drag race which is really great to see. I'm looking to buy the twin 650 and one of my concern is the wheels are in 18" which is quite limited the tyres option. My question is , is it able to do the wheel conversion in to 17" size ? And what's the trade off ?
Thanks.
Not an easy swap to a 17" and would be expensive. Since the 650's are selling well hopefully tyre companies will take note and make more options.
Are you guys gonna be doing a video on shocks and upgrades for them soon ? (:
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Gud info, Service centre in india replace clutch plates on my interceptor at 10k kms and I realise there is a big power loss in pickup on mountains. They r not able to find why this happen. They refuse for any power loss but as a owner I felt loss in power pulling on hills as compare to orignal clitch.
Pls explain.
Thanks
What will be the clutch free play of a stock bike some says its 3to4 mm some says tye company updated it to 12 to 16mm
Great. N 1 query sns is making great stuff y its not producing a bike?
Hi guys, any chance of getting a 0 to 100 kmph timing of a fully modified bike and also the top speed after all the upgrades to an 865 cc
I'm still finding neutral more difficult to select from first than with the standard clutch, even after about 8,000km with it. If I trial removing nearly all the clutch lever free play to get maximum disengagement it's still hard. I suspect this is due to more clutch drag, is this normal and unavoidable for the Rekluse clutch? Thanks guys
When I jerk and rev high my throttle, my engine kinda scream but there was no acceleration, it felt like something is slipping. Is that the slipper clutch at work?
Have you ever installed a Recluse Radius pack in there?
Question: I have a more or less stock Interceptor, added a 2>1 exhaust and a Aftermarket air filter with a venturi intake. ( also lowered the gearing) Coming from a Street Twin on which I never experienced anything suggesting clutch slip, on the Enfield I get the sensation at times that I'm not applying full power and torque to the rear wheel. Since you have a lot of experience with the Enfields, do you have any comments on this or relatable experience? A new clutch install is relatively straight forward so it something easy enough to do if its needed. And yes I know how to adjust the clutch.
We haven't seen a clutch failure on a stock 650 yet. The 865 however, will over run the stock clutch almost immediately when you begin to dial it up.
Great content!! Have you all found an aftermarket oil filter that’s compatible with the 650 twin?
No
@@RevelryCycles Okay, thanks.
im planning on getting a royal enfield interceptor 650 and id like to get as much power out of it as possible without needing to get somone to pull the engine apart so i was just wondering if you had any recomendations
We recommend you watch the whole series of videos. The answers you seek are there.
Hello, long time since the last enfield instalment,.....when is the next one ? (maybe you've done one ,but it doesn't show on my subscribers channel ), take care both of you ,peace out ✌
I have Rekluse clutch plates in my interceptor. The problem I am facing is am not able to neutral it from gear engaged while the bike is running and is in 1st or 2nd gear. This seems to like clutch dragging. I have run 1000 km after fitment and the oil used is 10w50. Can you help me with the diagnosis of the problem.
Hi Sanjay, I also find neutral harder to select now from first gear since I had the Rekluse clutch installed. I can normally get it easily from second gear though. Did you ever solve this problem? It's quite annoying because the gearbox used to be so easy to find neutral.
Sir show this bike how to install cam chain settings camshaft hed selander pisten TDC which is perfact settings
You know there's a whole video on this right?
czcams.com/video/-Gle956Ob40/video.html
Hi guys love the videos i learnt a lot.
I have a question I hope to get a reply as I am now fitting this upgraded clutch. The last 2 clutch friction plates you fit in the short gaps in the basket are the friction plates not supposed to go in the same gaps as the other plates as they would be running on the steel shims that were fitted? It makes sense to put them where the originals ran but there's no extra fitted steel shims on the other outer fingers.
Please reply as I have heard some say finding neutral can be harder? And wondered if it's because they didn't used the smaller gaps on the basket.
From the video description:
NOTE: There is an error at 9:08. When installing the STOCK CLUTCH, only the last drive plate goes in the short spline. NOT THE LAST TWO.
NOTE: The REKLUSE clutch is installed with ALL drive plates in the long splines. NONE go in the short spline.
@RevelryCycles thank you so much for the reply. I did wonder as i have watch 3 videos and only 1 person put all the friction plates in the same place. So I was getting confused to what was right. Appreciated..
Do you put a new gasket on the side cover if you’re changing the clutch?
Yep, always.
I've been advised by another CZcams channel chap, a very qualified and an Interceptor owner that putting all of the S&S parts on will ruin the bike for street purposes! I was really very much looking forward to getting the 865 big bore kit sorted along with other S&S gems. They said it would make the bike more 'Japanese'. The power will be higher up in the rev range and lose low down grunt. They advised an S&S cam and thats about it. Is the the case? I'd love to hear your opinion. Thank you.
No one who has actually ridden one of our fully equipped 865cc motors would ever say the phrase "lose low down grunt" while describing the experience. That's just silly. The fact is, while you can alter lots of variables to tune the engine toward more low end torque or more high end power, no matter how you configure it the 865 ALWAYS makes much more torque absolutely everywhere in the rev range than the 650. The 865 engines are strong and reliable, they respond very well to higher gearing because they make so much more torque down low, they are smooth and quiet on the highway with HEAPS of high gear roll on passing power, and are simply a joy to ride. Oh and that's not my "opinion". That's an amalgomation of comments from actual owners of the 865.
@@RevelryCycles Thank you for your prompt reply. I also thought the very same way, as I've watched your videos from the beginning of your CZcams channel. I'll continue to follow your advice and build my goal. Thanks again for everything 🙏
Part 10 rebuild gearbox
Just fitted the Hitchcocks performance clutch which I believe is the same. I haven't actually put any miles on it, just turned it around on my street. First gear seems a little tricky to find, will this improve once given a good run? Or have I done something wrong?
If it doesn't work something must be amiss.
@RevelryCycles it works,just getting first gear seemed a little harder than i am used too. Are they oil type sensitive? I have used semi synthetic as a posed to fully synthetic this oil change.
Triumph might want to look at this to get some tips on clutches!
Olá. preciso de ajuda. a 3º marcha parou de engatar!! O que pode ser ??
There is a known issue with the dogs that engage third gear shearing off. It may be that so you should take it to the dealer immediately and let them diagnose it.
Sir, your videos are very good. But your speach is not audible clearly. We hear it as if you are talking from far. Sir , please make video on disassembling of the rectifier unit of interceptor 650 . Because my dealer says we have to disassemble the rear swing arm completely to remove the RR UNIT. Please reply to my quires sir🙏. I am Mr Raju Desai from india
Are those springs rusted?
No they’re colour coded.
Royal Enfield 650 1 episode full engine rebuild
No updates! What’s happening guys?🤷🏻♂️
We have a shop and customers that are our first priority.
Am I the only one who saw the puppy in the video?!
LOL that is Pixie our shop dog and customer happiness manager. If you want to get to know her better her Instagram page is linked in our About section.
from where in India we can buy this Clutch Because Stock Clutch is just crap
If you can't buy S&S products locally, we can ship to India.
Here's the link.
shop.revelryracing.com.au/product/performance-clutch-kit-650/
@@RevelryCycles dam it's so costly 😭 but it's an osam stuff 🤔