LFR17 - Game 32 - Cardio - Senators 4, Maple Leafs 2
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- čas přidán 26. 12. 2023
- Steve Dangle recaps and analyzes game 32 of the Toronto Maple Leafs season against the Ottawa Senators. How did they blow a 2-goal lead?
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1-5-1 against Chicago, Buffalo and Ottawa this season. Hard to take this team seriously when they don't even take their opponents seriously
Maple laffs
Well said! This group will never win anything. 1-7 in playoff series, they are losers.
@@PopShoppekidwith whiny, loser fans. Fitting.
add 1-0-1 with CBJ as well for 2-5-2
This exactly. They can somehow play with the best of them, yet can't show up to try against teams at the bottom.
If Matthews or Marner scores a goal like Batherson, you spend 2 minutes talking about the crazy skill involved.
"If you have to teach a dog how to be a dog, maybe it's a cat." -Steve Dangle
If that's not already a saying, it is now! Lol well done Steve
maybe theyre just dogshit
Pretty dumb saying. Cats are far more intelligent than dogs, considering dogs can be easily trained by humans betting on their demise in fights, etc.
How about “If the Coach can’t get his team to play their best against everyone, ESPECIALLY the bottom teams you can earn two points against, is he to blame or the players or both, enquiring minds want to know.”
@TheOinkBox Hes not talking about the animals intelligence... he's talking about pretending it is something it is not
@@GizmoBeachjust say you don't understand 😂
@@GizmoBeachWoooosh, way over your head hey?? haha
Sidney Crosby does not need a coach to tell him to try hard in all three periods of the game. Keefe might be part of the issue but he’s not the problem
But he no play for the Leafs. And he was coached by not Keefe.
Someone in the core 4 needs to go with Keefe to shake the complacency out of the entire group.
He’s. hUGE problem
I’m not calling for anyone’s firing but Shanahans now. He’s been overseeing this gong show for many years and nothing has changed…. It’s the “Shanaplan” that needs a revamp first.
A job of a coach, like a manager in a regular workplace, is to provide feedback based on observations. The coach theoretically sees things the player doesn't because the coach has distance from the play and perspective that the player, who is in the middle of it, does not. So if the stars are not getting it done, then the coach needs to give them the feedback in order to modify their play in a way that the player will understand. (In other words you can't just scream at the player that they suck and expect them to change.)
Fun fact: Arvid Soderblom has 4 career wins in 33 games, half of those wins have come against the leafs this season.
imagine steve sees this...
It concerns me what ur idea of "fun" is. When I say puppy bonfire, how does that make u feel?
"hey anybody got a pen?"
Hilarious 🤣
It’s losses like these that show why the Leafs are a “regular” season team yet somehow never find themselves in first in the Atlantic division. Thus making it harder to win first round series vs tougher opponents
No matter what they will meet Boston or Florida. This team won't beat either in a series, too SOFT.
@@late3619 They beat Boston last year... the team has barely changed.
@@Earthboundmike Florida beat Boston last yr. Leafs beat TB than lost to Florida.
Sens fan here thanks for making the day yelling at the camera LOVE IT!
This is the type of game where Steve adds to his elite grip strength.
Right now, without question, this will look like normal service resuming for the Maple Leafs. A Round 1 choke-job. That aura of inconsistency coming back to haunt them. Again.
They gotta make the playoffs to lose in the first round. If you don't have doubts about that, at this point, I'd point out now the Lightning is one point away from bouncing the Leafs into a wild car spot, and a point away from being OUT OF A WILD CARD SPOT.
yahoo!! go leafs go!! lol
@@SirLionofBiff tbh, Tampa has 4 more games than Leafs. So not too fair of a comparison.
But yeah, it's tough to say if we'll ever see a second round of the playoffs any time soon. Granted we actually play well enough to be there lol
@@peacebringer8I don’t understand how some of these teams have played that many more games rn while my canadiens get a 5 day break every other game💀
Typical leafs hater with 0 substance to his argument. This is the regular season not the playoffs bud. Not to mention they literally don't have a goalie right now due to injuries and sammy need's Bubbles from TPB glasses. Wouldn't be saying this with Woll in net.
Oh this is totally who they are. How many more games do you need after 7 years? How can you still expect anything different? This is the team, man. This is it.
Ur sure about that? I feel like u gotta give the Shanaplan a full decade before we can undeniably say it's a complete failure... it's kind of like that street corner hotdog stand u pass on the way home and uve had diarrhea every single night since its opened. Ur doctor suggests u don't eat there, but admits it could be caused by stress. Well, maybe ull be less stressed if u have a hotdog, right?
"If you have to tell a dog how to be a dog, maybe it's a cat." is one of the best lines I've ever heard and I think it's an original. WTG Steve.
The "DO THINGS" rant is the hardest I've laughed
After this game, I actually deleted my recording timer for Leafs games. After almost 60 years of watching the Leafs, for the sake of my heart, I'll wait until the playoffs (and I will actually be surprised if they make it) to watch/attend any more Leafs games. Unless of course, they hire a new coach... Not because Keefe is a bad coach, but he clearly has no control/influence over his players. These players clearly need a more "tough-love" approach... a coach who isn't afraid to bench a "star" player in favor of a player who is actually willing to die on the ice for his team (I see Nylander is back to his old lazy ways... no surprise there!). I'm so sick of the team not being ready to play or waiting until the last 10 minutes of a game to actually give a sh!t. This is NOT a playoff team, although it could be with a very different attitude and that typically comes from the coach and/or team leaders. But I can't watch this BS any more, it's just too stressful and frustrating.
Your 100% correct my friend. I have been leaf fan for over 40 years i would watch everygame not missing single second .I read all the articles everything leafs but this year for some reason i lost interest because i see the same old thing bad habits not getting up for bad teams same old garbarge. Until they prove to me that they care enough to try then i dont care either
I'm not a Toronto fan, but how are they going to survive a "tough love" coach when, at least from what I've seen, every time Keefe has been critical of a player (looking at you, Marner) he has to.come out the next day and apologize and "soften" his words.
Spot on Emit! I am of your vintage and can remember Leaf teams that played with heart - Bower, Horton, Baun, Brewer, Keon, and then the Gilmour, Clark, era. This team is missing something, and I do not think any coach can generate it!
Thank you Steve. LFRs always make me feel better after games like this 😮💨
does the shouty guy in blue make new podcasts after every game?? cos even though i only listen every now & then i'm sure it goes= dissatisfied with the core 4, goal tending is sub-par, team is far too soft, sheldon k. needs to go, fanbase is the biggest but constantly let down, bruins/panthers lie ahead in ambush, etc if stevey d wore a white leafs jersey once i might believe something has changed & o yeea 1967 blah.............
my question is when is the media going to ask them why they dont take their bad opponents seriously? IMO all these loses against teams we should beat are costing us a higher position in the division.
3:39 *Steve.exe has stopped functioning (again)*
At what point is it Shanahan? He's the only one that has yet to be held accountable for anything that's happened to this team during his tenure
About 5 years ago. But at least he hasn’t slept with any of his teammates wives, so there’s that.
Somewhere between losing series to Montreal(technically not going to playoffs), and getting destroyed by Florida after finally winning a round. That entire time frame I feel like the proof clearly said the Shanaplan is insane! But unless TMLSE CEOs can him or he resigned. This is the product they are selling. If we decide to pay for the bag of ice in the Arctic, we've only ourselves to blame...
I used to think DJ Smith had some inside knowledge about the Leafs and that this was the reason why Toronto has a hard time against Ottawa.
What about Arizona, Columbus, Chicago as well
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jacques Martin knows a thing or two about coaching Sens vs Leafs games. Obviously the lineups are different, but so much else is still the same.
I assumed they just have a hard time against teams that give a crap...
“Look at where this team is and this is your kryptonite.”
The return of jacques martin had the leafs flabbergasted. Go sens go!
As an Ottawa fan, Toronto is so strong offensively it really showed in the first, but once we started getting the puck a little more and sending it deep, we started dominating physically and it paid off. Of course Matthews scores, our D is kinda crap so he can just exploit it easily. Also notice how many chances he denied us by backchecking? None of the other leafs did that, he cant backcheck all 60 minutes himself lol. Makes sense a guy like Bertuzzi got a goal with the way he plays. Domi scored against us last time and hes a gritty guy so makes sense. Also Korpi and Zub are the goats. Also also screw you for ruining Norris goal streak lol
If you look at Korpis history vs the Leafs it makes sense he got the win again. You want to beat the Leafs, out-work them and start throwing the body. Thats what the Sens did
We? You play on the team?
I like how the team is starting to mature to the point where they could strong-arm a game from another team after a rough start. Still having trouble stringing together a full 60 but it’s nice to see it not be a collapse and instead be the opposite of that.
Martin’s getting to the Sens and it’s good to see. The D may still be meh, but the structure is slowly falling into place, the D-men themselves are very talented, so some structure will only bode well.
The Leafs are a great team when they wanna be. They don’t play mature hockey, the two teams are much more similar than you realize, but the Leafs have benefitted from more players following through on plays. The Sens may become the more mature team by the time the dust settles on the season.
@@Hadlyownz you new to sports or something?
Well, "try hard for 60 minutes." Does seem to be an effective strategy against this team for the last decade...
Thank you Steve. You make me feel so much better with these post-leaf loss videos after I suffer through another bad Sabres game.
How Sheldon is still the coach is a mystery.
Complacency, a problem that has plagued this whole organization since the beginning of the Shanahan era.
Cuz he was the cheap replacement after they overspent on Blabcock...rinse and repeat forever.
I enjoyed the video Steve, thanks man :-)
I think they need to trade Nylander and get some much-needed talent back on the blue line. But of course they won't trade him, and in fact, Nylander will get his 11 million dollar contract because I believe Shanahan/MLSE will ride out the short-term cap pain until Tavares contract is up. Then Tree will try to get Tavaras to sign a team-friendly contract. And let's not forget that Marner is next up after Willie. You can't win a cup with this core. I hate saying that, but it's true from everything I've seen so far.
I bet willy walks in the off season somewhere else cause the leafs can't afford him, he will be another player they lost and got nothing in return.
Willy wants more marner wants more back to same old shit cap spent on those crybabies while they fill out roster with ahl washups 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Same core 4. Same coach. Same complacency.
Wanted to stream a goalie in fantasy tonight. Top adds were Rittich and Jones took one look at Jones who was against a Senators team that could use a win after the Christmas break and without hesitation took Big Save Dave.
Textbook scheduled loss for the Leafs. It is a troubling trend that has existed the entire core 4 era.
Can we take a moment to appreciate mathew knies? Hes such an amazing player. He does everything on the ice very well and im grateful hes one our team.
Love watching your videos when Leaf’s lose your passionate about your team but hilarious too watch
Nice to see Steve celebrate Festivus so vigorously
Claude Giroux man!
Kept poking through like a mid 90s dodge body panel.
I’m 40, this game was my first game in Toronto. My friend surprised me with 100 level seats when I thought we had 300 level. Loved the experience but man why can’t the leafs show up! Would have made the night perfect! Love the content, you are spot on! Cheers!
Steve, i always look torward to your videos. You make us laugh so much. You are very gifted! i think you would be amazing in standup!
does the chair fool ya?? he's already at it bro
Leaves salty tears.....love them.
Steve...
Cmon man give the Sens a little credit. They are not a bottom feeder team. The standings do not reflect their talent. Those guys ARE probably one of the greatest Ottawa teams we have ever seen. When they are on, they are in beast mode. For some reason they trip on themselves, become very hard on themselves, very fragile... but dude... they should be right up there 2nd or 3rd to Boston/Florida. Referee'ing has been a joke to both teams this year(thanks BETman) and every year it gets worse... so there's that true fact... but here's another fact.. The Sens are a great team and the league is foolish to think otherwise or dismiss it. Sure they dont have 10M dollar players, but thats because its spread around better. The salary allocation is distributed better, which means the talent is stronger overall with less failures or questionable players.
The Sens are a lion with a thorn in their paw... should that thorn fall out.. watch rankings and don't blink.
I agree! The Sens are a definite dark horse for the playoffs because they have an experienced coach, no Dorion, an new owner who gives a crap and plenty of good players.
Let's gooooooo this should be fun
Sorry Steve :(
Wait...was I first? 😅 GO LEAFS
Crazy how my night went from ya it's gonna be a scoring fest to BERTUZZI BEING IN THE NET MORE THAN THE PUCK
Love this guy, hilarious!
I have many questions... Keefe pulls jones and puts out pp1 (who already gave up a shg) + jarnkrok over EITHER goal scorer in this game? Why is our "#1 D-man" making 7.5M with a full no move if he doesnt know how to take a slapshot? (It infuriates me so much when he tries to sell the shot on the pp cuz everyone knows hes not going to shoot) Why is Robertson (who has 0 goals since Nov 24) still on the 3rd line, let alone the starting roster? Why hasnt Gregor been given a look with Domi and Jarnkrok? Why hasnt Steeves been called up at all?
MR44 has been in the league for over a decade now and it would appear he's never worked on his shot.
Gregor needs to be on a better line. Brings speed, physical and plays hard for 60 min. Has done more than Robertson.
The Tavares spot was amazing
3:40 😂 Steve is the greatest. If his team showed the passion he does they wouldn’t lose
Very day is Christmas when Steve reacts to Leafs losses!!! Presents galore!!!! 🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁
Friday night overtime Steve is dangling off the edge of his seat right now
Leafs players can't wait to watch your videos after the games. Steve Dangle next Leafs coach, at least until he still has a voice...
I’ve stopped hoping. It’s much less stressful.
Steven.... I recall games as far back as 1978. I've seen things . Scary tissue is deep
Sammy could never stop pucks he didn’t forget
I think its time for a coaching change. Someone needs to get these guys playing full 60 min games
As a Sens fan, it is absolutely hilarious to have watched DJ Smith survive for years of underperforming hockey and now see people continuing to call for Sheldon Keefe's head when the Leafs have 9 regulation losses in 32 games
I’m fully convinced Brodie is not worth what we are paying him anymore. The guy plays an average of 22 minutes, has played in 31 games and has 16 shots. 0 goals, 7 assists. He’s a complete waste of $5M on this team. Send him to San Jose for Ferraro and call it a day. Won’t solve every problem the leafs have, but it’s a damn good start. Or we could trade for Adam Larsson. You know, a good defence-man. One thing I’m certain of, Brodie’s gotta go.
ohh lord the goalie part had me laughing so hard. solid video Steve
Now, this video should be the most watched LFR for the season
Never will emulate the Leaf's colossal capitulation against the Buffalo Sabres lol.
Until they lose 5-6 goal lead or lose 3 game to 0 playoffs again
Sabres.
It's like you said in a previous video, they have to let Sammy play through it. He's not going to play through it sitting on the bench.
How do you let an unplayable Bum play through it?
We are so far past Sammy playing through it this team needs a goalie in the worst of ways not to mention at least 2 defenceman that actually defend number 1 priority. This is proving how good Woll was actually playing compared to his numbers.
You know, the leafs have Guy Boucher in the organization who, in my opinion, is a much better coach than Keefe. You spoke about this already prior to the season. I think the solution is right there in front of them (or behind them from the players' point of view).
Thank You!
DANGY-BOY leaping OFF the Bandwagon - here we go AGAIN
2:24. Damn right don’t ask. My guys smacked him around.
Yea your guys are the best 29th place team in the league. Put some respect on it
@@c_telking4433 the Panthers are not 29th…..
In 16 1/2 seasons, how many audio clips of just Steve screaming do we have?
Airing of grievances, you say? It’s Festivus time!
that was some good 'wave your stick at the opponent while they skate right past you' practice
3:40. I want that scream played for every leafs blown game.
Though it was Squidward for a sec
Never mind that, I want it played at Scotiabank when any opposition puck goes in. Goal songs are great and all, but why not a goal scream when your opponents score
Daryl stutter next coach of the leafs
Like Shoersy says.
This team loves to win but they don't hate to lose. From coaching staff to players they don't get angry enough or at all when losing.
nailed it
But, but all those gritty players they have. Who am I kidding?
It seems like the Leafs are one big "Blip" and have been since I was 5 years old (I'm 61). I give you all the credit in the world, Steve, for being the fan you are as I think I may have given up on this franchise a long time ago. But then again, I have been a Bruins fan since I was 6 years old and between 1972 and 2011 we were all waiting up here in Boston; it seemed like forever.
Steve: "TRYYYYYYYYYY!"
Three seconds later: "I am trying to be a man of peace..." 😂
Nylander's bad habits starting to show again. Floating around the Leafs blueline while playing in the D zone and half efforts getting back when the other team counter attacks.
That's so typical for him, I really hope they don't pay this bum 10m+ a year
But his point steak bro.. 😅
He’s the biggest cherry picking floater in the league, he’s always floating at center ice, waiting for that long stretch pass.
Gotta admit, even as a beer league player I know enough to take away the pass to the open guy!
100% I haven't played organized hockey since my teens but I know that too lol. Rielly shouldn't have to tell him to take the other guy, Nylander should just know it.@@Olddogger
Steve calling the last goal sub-NHL is funny considering Auston Matthews scored a few of those lol.
I can't accept that players don't want to play in Toronto, because of the media. I could accept that players who want to win avoid the place like the plague.
How dare you bring up those mid 90s. I had forgotten that. Not anymore
Go Sens Go
It would be interesting to compare the former Leafs after they escape to other teams.
PS: I see the Leafs fighting for a wild card spot, at best, and *if* they make the playoffs, a first-round exit.
that's the problem right there, they aren't going to be fighting for a wild card sport, they know it's unlikely that they're going to win the division, so all they need to do is turn up now and again and they're going to finish 2 or 3 in the division with little effort.
Escape from Toronto. Lol
Hey good job as always Steve ,just ve one question ,,what’s going on wth Ryan reeves how come their not using him more
nice comeback win for Ontario's team at the CTC west
Is Robertson’s audition over? Can we try Holmberg now??
@SteveDangle I did some more thinking on your question. I've only been following the team close starting this season because I enjoy your videos/podcasts and thought following along with the games would add to my enjoyment. So I don't have the long-term experience with this team that you do.
But I have been covering sports for 25 years and have seen plenty of teams with "consistent effort" issues. It almost always starts with the team leadership, and not the coach(es) but the star players. When it comes to effort, the rest of the team almost always takes its cues from the stars. If there's a consistent energy/effort problem, it's a leadership problem and the leadership dynamic has to be changed (which almost never happens during a season).
That means this is a Core Four problem, which goes back to what you were screaming from the rooftops all last offseason, that the Core Four has to be broken up, it's not working. Matthews obviously isn't going anywhere. Tavares isn't going anywhere. Nylander is having his best season by a mile, but is a free agent this summer. Marner has been inconsistent.
I'd try to trade one of them (preferably Marner but I'm open to Nylander given his impending summer) for a respected veteran leader with a high motor who may be able to energize the rest of the team to more consistent play. That's not going to be easy to do, but when it comes to this issue, it may be the only way to address it.
I'm still wondering what the heck happened to Martin Jones. Last year, he was given more starts for the Kraken when Phillip Grubauer was struggling, and that went well.
Up until the All-Star Break. After that, it's like they switched places for the rest of that season.
He has 6 weeks of winning aura in him and then it all runs out at once. It makes me sad, Jones is maybe my favorite goalie when he's dialed in. I sometimes wonder what would happen if he spent time with the Knights, Coyotes, or Rangers goalie coaches.
I know what happened he plays for the leafs, instead of the Kraken hes been struck by the suck
My Christmas wish was Marner asking for a trade.
Mitch marner points are 3rd assists... He's brutal, guy makes 11 million soft soft soft
I think they gave they are used to giving the full 20 in the 3rd to comeback they gave the 20 in the first today and got confused
I blame myself Steve.... I could've worn a Caps, Canada, Canadien, Flames jersey for Christmas day at my family's (cause of the red) but chose the Sens because it had the added bonus if glittering gold and the Romans killed Jesus theme 😂😂😂😂🎉
Merry Christmas 🎉
As an Avalanche fan I sympathize with having a team that doesn’t show up against bottom teams.
9:06 “It’s not a cat 🐈…..It’s a Flerkin ‼️”
That game was a playoff style of hockey in the last 2 periods, Ottawa crammed 53 people in the slot every time Leafs had it in the offensive zone. It just shows Toronto still can't adjust to that gritty style of play, no matter the caliber of the other team.
Love Leafs Fans Tears.
I’m glad you mentioned Keefe. It’s been nagging at the back of my head for awhile. Most bench minors, losing to sub-par teams, not showing up for 60 minutes, etc. How much responsibility does a coach take when the mistakes are repetitive?
As a Leaf's fan it feels like groundhog day, every day
The Leafs offensive blitzkrieg style can overwhelm alot of defenses but because they have too many bodies down low they are susceptible to giving up odd man rushes or at least dangerous counters
We do tend to get quite down on these type of losses. Reality is a lot of the top teams this year (Boston, Vegas, avs, rangers) have lost games in similar fashion where they just play one good period. It happens and yes it does seem to happen always for this core from time to time but for me it would be about how often in a season. To date I would put 6 of their losses in that category. Either gave up or didn’t show up enough and laid an egg.
I mean, I have to give credit to batherson, it was a pretty sick goal. A bit lucky, but it was a skilled shot
GO SENS GO
3rd goal was a mix of a lucky bounce and an unstoppable shot. What's a goalie supposed to do there.... dive forward?
hug the post so as not to let in a house league goal
@@tombolt85 He was hugging the post but not the top of the post which is where the puck fell from when Jones moved.
@@tombolt85 he was hugging the post, it hit off the back of his mask, rolled down his shoulder and in... there's been like 3 goals off goalie masks already this year, but when the leafs let one in y'all blame the goalie and call it a beer league goal XD... sore losers, looking forward to your 1st round exit
I have scar tissue having just cheered for them since 2019.
"Do things" - Shiddy Dingles
Remember when these videos were uncensored? I think Steve is close to that.
I’ll add that obviously a defender is needed and I think a third line centre who is defensively responsible (ironically the same two thjngs we needed last year and got in o Reilly and schenn). This year I hope the defender is a bigger name and maybe the third liner is someone physical and an ok offensive threat
Who is the 3rd line center for the Leafs?
This is why I was saying for years that they had to break up the core. They should've entertained the idea after the Ayres game. They should've probably figured out a move after Game 5 in the bubble. They should've really figured out a move after Game 7 against Montreal. They should've already blown up the core well before Game 7 against Tampa.
It's obvious the problem is the core, but Dubas didn't make any moves and the second he wanted to, he got fired. The problem is Shanahan. He's overseen a team that has 1 second round GAME win in over half a decade. It's time to Shanacan the Shanaplan and get someone in there willing to actually make moves.
Yea just dump your best offensive players after a regular season game great idea why aren't you an NHL gm?
@@Outta-hz1ej Yes, after a regular season game. That comes after a season where they got embarrassed in the 2nd round, only winning 1 game. Which came after losing in Game 7 against Tampa where multiple errors in games 6 and 7 cost them. Which came after losing in Game 7 against Montreal when they had a 3-1 series lead over the worst team on points in the playoffs and blew it. Which came after laying an egg in Game 5 in the bubble against the Blue Jackets. Which came after losing to a 42 year old Zamboni driver who works for them. And so on and so forth.
It's not just one regular season game. It's 7 years of not being good enough. It's okay to admit they aren't good enough to win. Sometimes, a real fan has to admit that and ask for better.
@@Jrodsly Remember when Grabovski was our first line center?
@@Outta-hz1ej Remember when tea leaves in Amsterdam cost 37 cents a lb and baked potatoes tasted like salt?
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about things that didn't matter to the current conversation.
It doesn't matter who the team had in 1743. What matters is who they have now. Who they have now has proven to be the wrong group to win. I guess you're just not mature enough to understand the point.
You my friend have a lot of truth there. I actually believe even Shanahan has his hands tied too with these guys. The bottom line with this team is money. And this core brings the organization a ton of money. I truly believe that. I so wish ONE person owned this team and not an organization per se because all they care about is money! But you are right, changes from the top down need to happen or they will never change and keep throwing this core back out there night after night year after year. It fuckn sucks!
GO SENS GO!!!!
Habs aren’t that far behind the top 3 in the division with 3 games in hand on Tampa. They could be catching leafs sooner than we all thought.
This game was the 2021 Habs vs Leafs playoff series in a 1 game nutshell. Early lead, lull to sleep, Opponent gets physical, ties it, collapse defensively on leafs in Neutral and O-Zone, early goal in 3rd, opponents goalie makes some big saves, Leafs get “engaged” again because they’re losing , too late and the other teams squeaks out a W. infuriating