The laws need to change so that anyone convicted of murder who refuses to disclose the location of any of their victims should be denied any creature comforts in prison. No TV, No Books, No Visits, No medical treatment, nothing. Let them sit in an empty cell. If the family of the victim gets to suffer for life, then so too should the killer.
Agreed but I don't truly believe Keith's body is on the moors but in the woods of those woodland pictures of Ian and myra either he originally was at the start of the murder that's why she insisted he was there but then shortly after so that if they were caught he'd have a secret to take to the grave with him Ian snuck out and illegally took the car to move his body without myra's knowing, that's my theory anyway and why he was probably desperate for those pictures and negatives after incarceration.
She was NOT bullied into the murders! I've been with my husband for 15 years I love him more than anything but thay doesn't mean if he asked me to murder children I'd go along with him! She should have shopped him on day 1 before Pauline lost her life! I'm from Manchester and there are many true and untrue tales about Brady and hindley but 1 I know if definitely true is that she chose to help Brady she was NOT bullied into it she deserved to die in prison luckily the hanging law was abolished otherwise we would have never ever known about poor Pauline or Keith
Of course the woman gets all the sympathy but it should be opposite ffs,, she must have been somewhat demented in the head to go along with it. Maureen and David Smith were big enough to dob him in when it came to it and Maureen was her sister.
I believe Brady “changed” her in some way. But that’s still no excuse. Even if he had a good amount of influence over her and even though she loved him it’s no excuse for her to do the things she did and let what she let happened to those children.
I have a theory that Ian and Myra only accepted the responsibility of Keith Bennets murder, when in reality, the reason they never revealed where the body was is because they never knew. They don't know what happened to Keith Bennett
It's a bit like how a terrorist group may take responsibility for an attack they had nothing to do with. I don't know how their minds work. They wish it was them
This will be known, talked about, and seen, well after their deaths, and not from history books either, of course it will be going down the generations. I can't imagine what that would've been like for you, it must have been really spooky and sickening.
Why did they have so many dogs, and also a cat? Once they replaced one dog with another, what happened to the previous dog? Did they also torture and kill all these poor animals? Were they also involved in animal abuse? Where did they get the dogs and cats from? A shelter? There is also a total lack of justice for Keith Bennett and his family.
They had some bizarre cognitive dissonance when it came to animals versus people. When Myra Hindley’s dog Puppet died after being put under a general anesthetic to try and determine the dogs age to when the photos of gravesites were taken, she screamed and cried in the police station and called them all murderers. Behind bars, Ian wrote extensively about his beloved childhood pets and how he cried when his dog, Una died. He wrote that he could never have brought himself to kill sheep or cattle, but people? “The idea of killing people never bothered me in the least.” Myra also spoke about how they would frequently read the crime columns and fantasize about killing people charged with animal abuse. It doesn’t make them any less immoral or evil. They didn’t need to prey on poor defenseless animals because they got their kicks from preying on poor defenseless children.
@Mike Booton Yes, that is often the case. I would not have trusted them with either animals or humans. I find troubling the fact that they had animals that they seemed to replace often, just as they did with children. They would torment, abuse, torture, and murder a child, and then move on to the next one. It's possible they did the same with animals. In any case, they must have had a deep hatred of their very own existence, otherwise, how does one explain what they did?
Lesley’s family wanted the tape released. I think if Ppl had to hear that it could cause some listeners to be traumatized and that’s why it hasn’t been released. I hope the tape is never lost but also never released to the public either. Rest In Peace to all those who had to suffer because of Ian Brady’s actions.
Abbie Hazel Florence Hunter I don’t think anyone with a soul would ever consider doing something like that. Most human beings would be completely revolted by the very idea. It just goes to show what kind of people they both were.
Myra blaming her father and Ian for what she did is disgusting. Not surprising to say the least, look at who she is, her grandiosity would never allow her to take accountability
I think Myra's mother should have been ashamed of herself. When Ian and Myra were first arrested she instantly took *their* side, blaming poor Maureen for reporting them to the police. Even she didn't believe they killed the other children aside from Edward Evans initially, she DID know that know they killed HIM in cold blood, and at the time of Edward's murder Hanging was still legal in the UK, and David Smith could have very well been Hanged, leaving Maureen pregnant and alone. Also, it was only a few weeks after they were arrested for the Evan's murder, the police uncovered both Leslie Anne Downey and John Kilbride's bodies as a direct result of examining Brady's photos of Myra posing kneeling on THEIR GRAVES! ...so unless her mother was an imbecile, she KNEW that they were 100% guilty, even if she gullibley believed that only IAN was responsible for murdering them, she still knew Myra was a more than willing accompliced, because A) she was clearly in a relationship with him throughout the period the murders were carried out, and B) She posed, smiling, on their graves! With all this in mind, what kind of "mother" decides to disown the PREGNANT daughter who had killed NO ONE and actually had reported the despicable crimes to the police OR the daughter that participated and tried to drag her brother in law into their killing spree. Maureen and David were absolutely crucified for many years after the trial, they were accused of being complicit in the Moors Murders, and her "mother" left her to deal with it on her own, didn't even visit her grandchildren, but STILL managed to take herself to Holloway prison every month to visit her disgusting, wicked, bi*ch of a daughter, MYRA.
Why didn't they check where Ian Brady first walked to very fast where he stood looking forward for a while when he first got taken to the Moore when he made out he wanted to help the police!!! As he knew exactly where he was heading and looking,and people like him have a delight in knowing where the body of that little boy is It wouldn't put it past me if he was standing exactly where KB was 😢 right Infront of the police's eye 👀!!!! I wish they still had the exact picture or photo of where Ian Brady stood that day making out he was confused 😢😮!!!!???
Hunger strike my arse .. Now his dead I wonder if the letter to Winnie will be released? what's written in the letter that he was meant to give her she was only to read it when he died ( may she rest in peace ) As for this monster, he can rot. Shouldn't be given a headstone either!
If we know for certain a criminal is guilty then we should be allowed to what ever we want to get them to talk. Like putting cigarettes out on their genitals lol
The reason why little Keith hasn’t been found is because the police have been looking in the wrong place hindley tried to find him but she was taken to the wrong place that’s why she couldn’t identity land marks because how could she when she wasn’t in the correct place if you listen to hindley what she said when she went back to the moor you can see the police floors plain as day I’ve been to shiny brook were Keith is on several occasions and I’ve found places that hindley couldn’t find but knew was there .
I agree, I'm local . Them 2 photos of her by the waterfall doesn't look like that one at shiny brook. She said after visit I believe I was then on the wrong stream bed.
The laws need to change so that anyone convicted of murder who refuses to disclose the location of any of their victims should be denied any creature comforts in prison. No TV, No Books, No Visits, No medical treatment, nothing. Let them sit in an empty cell. If the family of the victim gets to suffer for life, then so too should the killer.
100% they should.
No medical care would be a violation of human rights tbh.
Completely agree, stale break and cold water, hard labour and a cold cell with annoying music/light......
@@MargaritaMagdalena Celtic......... is saying how it SHOULD be.
Agreed but I don't truly believe Keith's body is on the moors but in the woods of those woodland pictures of Ian and myra either he originally was at the start of the murder that's why she insisted he was there but then shortly after so that if they were caught he'd have a secret to take to the grave with him Ian snuck out and illegally took the car to move his body without myra's knowing, that's my theory anyway and why he was probably desperate for those pictures and negatives after incarceration.
How chilling to hear her words shows you how psychpathic she is. Feel bad for her sister and brother in law. They suffered too.
She was NOT bullied into the murders! I've been with my husband for 15 years I love him more than anything but thay doesn't mean if he asked me to murder children I'd go along with him! She should have shopped him on day 1 before Pauline lost her life! I'm from Manchester and there are many true and untrue tales about Brady and hindley but 1 I know if definitely true is that she chose to help Brady she was NOT bullied into it she deserved to die in prison luckily the hanging law was abolished otherwise we would have never ever known about poor Pauline or Keith
If she had stopped and left him when he first brought it up, those kids would still be alive. No doubt in my mind.
I’m sorry, but really? Bullied into committing multiple abductions and murders of children? She was as psychopathic, manipulative and cruel as Brady.
Poor Ian 😢
Never believed it for a moment Diane
Of course the woman gets all the sympathy but it should be opposite ffs,, she must have been somewhat demented in the head to go along with it. Maureen and David Smith were big enough to dob him in when it came to it and Maureen was her sister.
I hope it’s really REALLY hot where they are.
I believe Brady “changed” her in some way. But that’s still no excuse. Even if he had a good amount of influence over her and even though she loved him it’s no excuse for her to do the things she did and let what she let happened to those children.
The poor Bennett family waiting for Keith’s remains to be found , those evil pair knew where he was buried.
I have a theory that Ian and Myra only accepted the responsibility of Keith Bennets murder, when in reality, the reason they never revealed where the body was is because they never knew. They don't know what happened to Keith Bennett
@@adamnicholson1273 What did they gain by accepting responsibility for Keith Bennett's murder?
It's a bit like how a terrorist group may take responsibility for an attack they had nothing to do with. I don't know how their minds work. They wish it was them
@@adamnicholson1273 I suppose then it's quite possible that they used this as a bargaining chip to obtain concessions while in jail.
Also, they may have found in humorous toying with Police
No Myra...we will never forgive you..never
The brilliant Sean Harris played Brady in the movie. He's a fantastic actor.
Which movie? The one with Maxine Peake?
@Queen Conscious : Yeah he did.
@@fairlyvague82 : See no evil, The Moors murders.
@@celticlofts Ah yes, I watched it last night. Great film, I was pleased they didn’t portray the actual murders other than poor Edward Evans
@@fairlyvague82 Yes.
People like this make my blood boil, it so chilling yesterday driving past the moors with my mum knowing what has happened there.
This will be known, talked about, and seen, well after their deaths, and not from history books either, of course it will be going down the generations. I can't imagine what that would've been like for you, it must have been really spooky and sickening.
Winnie Bennett and Keith R.I.P
❤❤🇬🇧🇬🇧
Why did they have so many dogs, and also a cat? Once they replaced one dog with another, what happened to the previous dog? Did they also torture and kill all these poor animals? Were they also involved in animal abuse? Where did they get the dogs and cats from? A shelter? There is also a total lack of justice for Keith Bennett and his family.
Of course they were. Only vegans treat humans worse than they treat other animals. Poor animals. But more so poor children.
They actually hated people who would abuse animals. They never abused nor killed animals.
@Mike Booton there is no evidence of this.
They had some bizarre cognitive dissonance when it came to animals versus people. When Myra Hindley’s dog Puppet died after being put under a general anesthetic to try and determine the dogs age to when the photos of gravesites were taken, she screamed and cried in the police station and called them all murderers. Behind bars, Ian wrote extensively about his beloved childhood pets and how he cried when his dog, Una died. He wrote that he could never have brought himself to kill sheep or cattle, but people? “The idea of killing people never bothered me in the least.” Myra also spoke about how they would frequently read the crime columns and fantasize about killing people charged with animal abuse.
It doesn’t make them any less immoral or evil. They didn’t need to prey on poor defenseless animals because they got their kicks from preying on poor defenseless children.
@Mike Booton Yes, that is often the case. I would not have trusted them with either animals or humans. I find troubling the fact that they had animals that they seemed to replace often, just as they did with children. They would torment, abuse, torture, and murder a child, and then move on to the next one. It's possible they did the same with animals. In any case, they must have had a deep hatred of their very own existence, otherwise, how does one explain what they did?
Forever Evil.
Lesley’s family wanted the tape released. I think if Ppl had to hear that it could cause some listeners to be traumatized and that’s why it hasn’t been released. I hope the tape is never lost but also never released to the public either. Rest In Peace to all those who had to suffer because of Ian Brady’s actions.
Abbie Hazel Florence Hunter I agree completely. There was so much more to her than her murder it is so sad that is what she is best known for.
Abbie Hazel Florence Hunter I don’t think anyone with a soul would ever consider doing something like that. Most human beings would be completely revolted by the very idea. It just goes to show what kind of people they both were.
@@kaitlynamira3916 Very true. They crossed a line the rest of us wouldn't cross. Like you say most would be revolted.
kaitlyn Amira I think they destroyed the tape
Who is Ppl? Part of the Police?
I recommend the lost boy.. Book by Duncan staff.
I've started reading it. Is it any good?
@@wickedwitchoftheeast88 I'm about to start reading it myself.
Read it it's got more about staff init than it had anything else
@Abbie Hazel Florence Hunter it's about the lost boy Keith Bennett
She could have told police years before that there were others there's the proof she's guilty
Myra blaming her father and Ian for what she did is disgusting. Not surprising to say the least, look at who she is, her grandiosity would never allow her to take accountability
Two very, very evil individuals.........................
Oh shes good manipulator to the max. She left out other two murders and seeing them killed
I think Myra's mother should have been ashamed of herself. When Ian and Myra were first arrested she instantly took *their* side, blaming poor Maureen for reporting them to the police. Even she didn't believe they killed the other children aside from Edward Evans initially, she DID know that know they killed HIM in cold blood, and at the time of Edward's murder Hanging was still legal in the UK, and David Smith could have very well been Hanged, leaving Maureen pregnant and alone.
Also, it was only a few weeks after they were arrested for the Evan's murder, the police uncovered both Leslie Anne Downey and John Kilbride's bodies as a direct result of examining Brady's photos of Myra posing kneeling on THEIR GRAVES! ...so unless her mother was an imbecile, she KNEW that they were 100% guilty, even if she gullibley believed that only IAN was responsible for murdering them, she still knew Myra was a more than willing accompliced, because A) she was clearly in a relationship with him throughout the period the murders were carried out, and B) She posed, smiling, on their graves!
With all this in mind, what kind of "mother" decides to disown the PREGNANT daughter who had killed NO ONE and actually had reported the despicable crimes to the police OR the daughter that participated and tried to drag her brother in law into their killing spree.
Maureen and David were absolutely crucified for many years after the trial, they were accused of being complicit in the Moors Murders, and her "mother" left her to deal with it on her own, didn't even visit her grandchildren, but STILL managed to take herself to Holloway prison every month to visit her disgusting, wicked, bi*ch of a daughter, MYRA.
I have drove past a Ian Brady escort
Why didn't they check where Ian Brady first walked to very fast where he stood looking forward for a while when he first got taken to the Moore when he made out he wanted to help the police!!! As he knew exactly where he was heading and looking,and people like him have a delight in knowing where the body of that little boy is
It wouldn't put it past me if he was standing exactly where KB was 😢 right Infront of the police's eye 👀!!!! I wish they still had the exact picture or photo of where Ian Brady stood that day making out he was confused 😢😮!!!!???
What makes Myra even more disgusting is that she had an affair with rose west whilst in prison.
Is that really true? Disgusting if it is.
come on, get real
13.00 ah - the doctored photo of brady - 'cause they don't do that do they!
That's how I was taught to fight I was locked outside and said stand up to them or u don't get back in,,,I'm not a murderer
Im going to watch another groups code
UK accent crime drama
Hunger strike my arse .. Now his dead I wonder if the letter to Winnie will be released?
what's written in the letter that he was meant to give her she was only to read it when he died ( may she rest in peace )
As for this monster, he can rot. Shouldn't be given a headstone either!
If we know for certain a criminal is guilty then we should be allowed to what ever we want to get them to talk. Like putting cigarettes out on their genitals lol
The narrator has a dreary voice: monotonous, cold and mean.
The reason why little Keith hasn’t been found is because the police have been looking in the wrong place hindley tried to find him but she was taken to the wrong place that’s why she couldn’t identity land marks because how could she when she wasn’t in the correct place if you listen to hindley what she said when she went back to the moor you can see the police floors plain as day I’ve been to shiny brook were Keith is on several occasions and I’ve found places that hindley couldn’t find but knew was there .
I agree, I'm local . Them 2 photos of her by the waterfall doesn't look like that one at shiny brook. She said after visit I believe I was then on the wrong stream bed.
That would makes sense
Her autobiography sounds self centered and boring, I'm grateful it was never released.