Thanks man! Yessir. I've been off the radar a bit. But I'm currently expecting a wave of new pairs. September should be a busy month for me. I'll be starting off comparing the Yu shuai 18 low regulars to the low 18 ultras, then I'll go from there.
Damn I think you’re the only one with a video comparing these two 🔥 I hope you can try the xtep jlin 5 cause I’ve been hearing hoopers getting injured from it
I bought the explosive midsole to use in my Kobe 8s but then the player 1 plus went on sale yesterday so I ordered them because the Halloween colorway is fiiiire
I hate the strength setup from player 1 plus but the evanlon-light setup they give you is GOD TIER for me I’m a light guard and the cushion is better and they’re extremely light and responsive. The strength drop in is so stiff since I’m so light I cant seem to break that cushion in…
Played in the SPO player 1+ Halloween when it dropped and was in love however it ended after I burned through the rubber at the ball of my feet to the carbon fiber plate with 15hrs of use only. Also for me heel lockdown was bad unless I strictly used the Zion 3/se midsoles then it was solid and shoe was fun to play in but every pair I owned was getting the outsole wear really quickly so I sold them all.
Damn. That's crazy man!! You never hear these stories. It's all fluffy reviews on their website..... and at 15hrs of play alone?! I'll for sure try to see if I can play in them some more, and observe the wear on my pair.
@@theshoesayerI will say I’m shiftier and have very powerful legs more than the average person haha so I would say 95% of players won’t have the same issue I did, one of my players also had the same issue but 2 others didn’t they didn’t put as much pressure/wear on that area, not knocking the shoe but I sent pictures to the company and they literally told me thank you well send to r and d which is cool but no discount or anything, I stated I’m a collegiate assistant and can’t recommend to my shifty strong guards and still couldn’t care less so I stopped all recommendations for the company. Rangers were flat garbage too. 808 line never had a single issue wore the crap out of the 808 3 ultra v2 mid and low Anyways love your videos very in depth and informative I hope your channel grows!
@@ironbearjku2233 Thanks my G, You must be a beast! I need to see some footage! I'm with you on this one fam...The wade 808 3 ultra v2 and now the 808 4 ultras would definitely be my choice. Even when comparing to the player one plus, I found that I spent 60% of the test time wearing the 808s.
The support midsole is definitely plusher under the feet and the explosive midsole is decent in impact protection, but my one knock is if you're a lighter player you won't really feel that compression all that much (I'm around 6feet 180-185). If you want to knit pick, the explosive midsole gets really hot under your feet from all that potential energy. *BUT* The real flaw in all this is that these (explosive/support) drop in midsoles are slightly thicker, so they change the fit of the shoe. Which is already a problem, I've bought TTS, half size down and half size up and still couldn't get the fit right for performance. As a warmup shoe for indoor/outdoor I'd say its fine but its really expensive at that point. I even left a 5 star review on their site when I first got them but that was premature cause you put hours into this shoe, and you'll notice how cheap everything is. The traction and how light the shoe is are probably the plus of the shoe but durability, fit, lockdown and impact protection I'd give it a generous mid.
Thanks for the info man! I definitely get what you're saying about the fit. I only played in then twice so far and it's a bit of a struggle... with a thicker midsole, that would be way worse. The plastic feel and glued down parts definitely put me off as far as build quality. They might need to go back to the drawing board in terms of refining the base shoe first, before focusing on the interchangeable parts of the shoe. Appreciate the comment fam!
@@theshoesayerI wrote a long reply to this but to save you from all the reading. Stay true fam don't con folks into buying faulty shoes cause the brand offers you free ones. I wasted a lot of money thinking the feedback would go somewhere but alas I just gotta charge it to the game *shrug*. Stay bless and big up from YYZ!
Thumbnail is 🔥 My favorite DB character Piccolo will maybe persuade me to buy the Ultra v4 even though I don't dig the design at all. Anyways I just tore my ACL 20 days ago so I have a long way to go before I will be able to actually test them 😢 great review as always 👍
Damn bro! Sorry to hear about your injury. Wishing you a speedy recovery G. Thanks for all the support! The design definitely took some warming up to but the Piccolo theme certainly helps!
Great video as always my bro! Your channel is rising up! Keep going. By the way, i suggest you try the lining gamma 1 or the liren 4 or liren 4v2 they are dope and toptier performers
Appreciate the sub fam! I'll choose the 808 4 ultra over the 808 3 ultra. The thicker boom midsole in the heel and the forefoot as well as the softer plastic on the outsole makes all the difference. The 4 ultras are bouncier and have better impact protection as a result.
I would personally go wow 11, then ac 12, then shockwave pro... the ac12 does have a plastic torsional plate vs the carbon Fibre plate in the shockwave pro, however I prefer the way the AC 12 plays. The shockwave 6 pro should be out soon hopefully though, so I'll let you know how that plays
Not really, the drop in midsole for the 4 ultras are thicker in the heel and forefoot, so if you put them in he SPOs, that leaves less room for your foot overall, making your foot feel even tighter than they would typically feel in the SPOs... So in theory you could, but its not a great fit in my opinion.
So I would say the 808 4 ultras are better than the v3 ultras. The thicker boom drop in midsole and the softer plastic in the outsole makes all the difference. In terms of personal preference, I've been alternating between the WoW 11s and the 808 4 ultras so I kinda like them the same. I might edge the 808 4 ultras because they have a more durable outsole and are more breathable.
Bro great video 🔥 I'm from Switzerland and we don't really have access to inside courts here. I'm 6'6 230 so I'm heavier and looking for a low top bouncy responsive shoe. Do you think 808 v4 or wow 10 low will be more responsive
Thanks bro. I would say WoW 10 low is slightly more responsive and has more impact protection. I would also suggest the anta Kai 1s (although they only ship to the US for now) If you are okay with mid cut shoes that play like lows. I would definitely suggest the wow11s if you play mostly indoors and the yu shuai 18 ultras if you play outdoors sometimes.
I got a question, just want some matter of opinions. So when you are reviewing a sneaker , do you add in your personal performance during the day when hooping, For example today I played in my WAY of wade All city 12 DNA colorway for the 1st time.. they needed no breaking in time.. I played good went 4-1 in games. So I probably would include player performance in the reviews as well.. Just curious if anyone else may do this.. Also just a side note, i personally believe all basketball sneakers should have traction setup like the player one plus.. like tire grip for longevity. That herringbone traction is it.
That's an interesting take bro. So currently I treat Cushion, Traction performance, Traction durability and stability as my main performance KPIs. I believe those are the factors that actually make me play better in terms of improving my overall skill attributes and influencing my performance on the court.... and then I take other things like fit, design, and affordability separately. It's really similar to what you've expressed, I feel those 4 performance related factors have the biggest impact on how good I play on any given day.
Got you bro. I would go with the 4 ultras, it has more bounce than the AC12s and the impact protection is improved from the previous versions although it's not the best out there. It also has a carbon fiber plate so better stability and energy return for your position. The midfoot strap is also really nice and keeps you locked into the shoe.
@@PrinceynerLionel sure thing bro. so from my personal experience, the wow 11 is more comfortable for wide footers (especially the forefoot) and has better impact protection. The 4 ultra has slightly more bounce to it, has by far the better traction performance on dusty surfaces, has a more durable outsole( do not play with the 11s outdoors please), and is more breathable. I started off playing a lot in the 11s, but these days I've been enjoying playing the ultra 4s a little bit more.
So it's really close here... the thicker boom in the 4 ultras make it slightly less responsive compared to the AC 12, however the 4 ultras have the carbon Fibre torsional plate in the midfoot vs the plastic piece in the AC12s, which gives you more of a spring forward when running. So I would say you might be quicker laterally with the AC 12s, but quicker going downhill in the 4 ultras.
It runs short for me. I went tts and My toes are right in front to the point that it hurts when I move because my big toe bumps against the front of the shoe. I would go at least half a size up, and a full size up for players with very wide feet.
Drop ins are generally worse at impact protection bro. Mostly because of the stiff outsole. So I would steer clear. The Wade 808 4 ultra are the best I've tested with a drop in midsole in terms of impact protection but I would probably suggest you go for something like the Way of Wade 10s/11s, Anta Kai 1s, Wade All city 11/12/12 encore, Harden Vol 7s/Vol 8s and the likes.
I'll try to line that up bro. I think the 4ultras are better than the 3 ultras which were great. They kept all the great things about the predecessors, then added a thicker drop in midsole and softer plastic in the heel to address the impact protection issue. The mid foot strap in the V4 ultras also keep you stable and locked in despite the thicker boom midsole height.
your the only reviewer to do 808 4s in english!
Yessir! I've been trying to get the latest drops early so that people can make a purchase decision on time.
Lets go bro!!!! I've been waiting on this one!!😤😤😤
Yessir!!
The boost from adidas and zoom from nike equals BOOM! deym, that idea is superb bro!
I swear bro! Lol. Can't make this stuff up 🤣
@@theshoesayer best idea ever. Has good point with it tho hahaha.
I got the ranger 1s and I found myself switching the explosive drop in midsole with my Kobe 11 drop in.
That combo made for smooth hoopin
Nice!!!
Any more videos coming down the pike?? Looking forward to them!
Thanks man! Yessir. I've been off the radar a bit. But I'm currently expecting a wave of new pairs. September should be a busy month for me.
I'll be starting off comparing the Yu shuai 18 low regulars to the low 18 ultras, then I'll go from there.
Damn I think you’re the only one with a video comparing these two 🔥 I hope you can try the xtep jlin 5 cause I’ve been hearing hoopers getting injured from it
Damnn. That's weird, I might just get those to see whats happening. Are the injuries similar?
I bought the explosive midsole to use in my Kobe 8s but then the player 1 plus went on sale yesterday so I ordered them because the Halloween colorway is fiiiire
Good stuff. Let me know how they play when you're able to play in them bro.
Thanks bro looking to buy a pair of 808 4 ultras so this really helped
For sure! It's a good buy!
thank you! I really wanted this comparision
First time watching you, cuz i ordered me some wow 808 4 ultra.
Very great comparison and very nice human beeing
Thanks fam! Appreciate the support!
I hate the strength setup from player 1 plus but the evanlon-light setup they give you is GOD TIER for me I’m a light guard and the cushion is better and they’re extremely light and responsive. The strength drop in is so stiff since I’m so light I cant seem to break that cushion in…
Played in the SPO player 1+ Halloween when it dropped and was in love however it ended after I burned through the rubber at the ball of my feet to the carbon fiber plate with 15hrs of use only. Also for me heel lockdown was bad unless I strictly used the Zion 3/se midsoles then it was solid and shoe was fun to play in but every pair I owned was getting the outsole wear really quickly so I sold them all.
Damn. That's crazy man!! You never hear these stories. It's all fluffy reviews on their website..... and at 15hrs of play alone?! I'll for sure try to see if I can play in them some more, and observe the wear on my pair.
@@theshoesayerI will say I’m shiftier and have very powerful legs more than the average person haha so I would say 95% of players won’t have the same issue I did, one of my players also had the same issue but 2 others didn’t they didn’t put as much pressure/wear on that area, not knocking the shoe but I sent pictures to the company and they literally told me thank you well send to r and d which is cool but no discount or anything, I stated I’m a collegiate assistant and can’t recommend to my shifty strong guards and still couldn’t care less so I stopped all recommendations for the company. Rangers were flat garbage too. 808 line never had a single issue wore the crap out of the 808 3 ultra v2 mid and low
Anyways love your videos very in depth and informative I hope your channel grows!
@@ironbearjku2233 Thanks my G, You must be a beast! I need to see some footage! I'm with you on this one fam...The wade 808 3 ultra v2 and now the 808 4 ultras would definitely be my choice. Even when comparing to the player one plus, I found that I spent 60% of the test time wearing the 808s.
The support midsole is definitely plusher under the feet and the explosive midsole is decent in impact protection, but my one knock is if you're a lighter player you won't really feel that compression all that much (I'm around 6feet 180-185). If you want to knit pick, the explosive midsole gets really hot under your feet from all that potential energy. *BUT* The real flaw in all this is that these (explosive/support) drop in midsoles are slightly thicker, so they change the fit of the shoe. Which is already a problem, I've bought TTS, half size down and half size up and still couldn't get the fit right for performance. As a warmup shoe for indoor/outdoor I'd say its fine but its really expensive at that point. I even left a 5 star review on their site when I first got them but that was premature cause you put hours into this shoe, and you'll notice how cheap everything is. The traction and how light the shoe is are probably the plus of the shoe but durability, fit, lockdown and impact protection I'd give it a generous mid.
Thanks for the info man! I definitely get what you're saying about the fit. I only played in then twice so far and it's a bit of a struggle... with a thicker midsole, that would be way worse. The plastic feel and glued down parts definitely put me off as far as build quality. They might need to go back to the drawing board in terms of refining the base shoe first, before focusing on the interchangeable parts of the shoe.
Appreciate the comment fam!
@@theshoesayerI wrote a long reply to this but to save you from all the reading. Stay true fam don't con folks into buying faulty shoes cause the brand offers you free ones. I wasted a lot of money thinking the feedback would go somewhere but alas I just gotta charge it to the game *shrug*. Stay bless and big up from YYZ!
@@Shamsx8 Appreciate it fam!
Thumbnail is 🔥 My favorite DB character Piccolo will maybe persuade me to buy the Ultra v4 even though I don't dig the design at all. Anyways I just tore my ACL 20 days ago so I have a long way to go before I will be able to actually test them 😢 great review as always 👍
Damn bro! Sorry to hear about your injury. Wishing you a speedy recovery G. Thanks for all the support! The design definitely took some warming up to but the Piccolo theme certainly helps!
Great video as always my bro! Your channel is rising up! Keep going. By the way, i suggest you try the lining gamma 1 or the liren 4 or liren 4v2 they are dope and toptier performers
Appreciate it bro! Yeah I heard great things about both of them. I'll try them out for sure! Cheers fam
Im a guard that plays outdoors mainly and doesn't care about the price, out of all the shoes you have tried which shoes would you reccomend?
I would say go for the anta Kai 1s That'll be my suggestion.
Nice comparison video! Very detailed / informative……. Will you be doing a review on the ANTA shockwave 6 pro?
Thanks bro. Yes I will!! I'm actually trying to get my hands on one currently.
You should do Sabrina 3 vs GT Cut 3 next
Damn. Okay bro. I'll try to get a video on those out.
808 4 or 808 3. Btw your content is fire definitely subbing
Appreciate the sub fam! I'll choose the 808 4 ultra over the 808 3 ultra. The thicker boom midsole in the heel and the forefoot as well as the softer plastic on the outsole makes all the difference. The 4 ultras are bouncier and have better impact protection as a result.
@@theshoesayerhey, I saw the 808 4’s are online now, what are more differences between the 808 3 V2s?
Wow ac 12 or anta shockwave 5 pro?
I would personally go wow 11, then ac 12, then shockwave pro... the ac12 does have a plastic torsional plate vs the carbon Fibre plate in the shockwave pro, however I prefer the way the AC 12 plays. The shockwave 6 pro should be out soon hopefully though, so I'll let you know how that plays
Could you put the 808 midsole in SPO's?
Not really, the drop in midsole for the 4 ultras are thicker in the heel and forefoot, so if you put them in he SPOs, that leaves less room for your foot overall, making your foot feel even tighter than they would typically feel in the SPOs... So in theory you could, but its not a great fit in my opinion.
@@theshoesayer thanks! Always curious how muscles work across different brands
How would u stack up the 808 v4 vs the v3? Or vs the wow 11? Which do you prefer?
So I would say the 808 4 ultras are better than the v3 ultras. The thicker boom drop in midsole and the softer plastic in the outsole makes all the difference. In terms of personal preference, I've been alternating between the WoW 11s and the 808 4 ultras so I kinda like them the same. I might edge the 808 4 ultras because they have a more durable outsole and are more breathable.
@@theshoesayer appreciate you taking the time to make such a detailed review 🫡
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Bro great video 🔥 I'm from Switzerland and we don't really have access to inside courts here. I'm 6'6 230 so I'm heavier and looking for a low top bouncy responsive shoe. Do you think 808 v4 or wow 10 low will be more responsive
Thanks bro. I would say WoW 10 low is slightly more responsive and has more impact protection. I would also suggest the anta Kai 1s (although they only ship to the US for now)
If you are okay with mid cut shoes that play like lows. I would definitely suggest the wow11s if you play mostly indoors and the yu shuai 18 ultras if you play outdoors sometimes.
I got a question, just want some matter of opinions.
So when you are reviewing a sneaker , do you add in your personal performance during the day when hooping,
For example today I played in my WAY of wade All city 12 DNA colorway for the 1st time.. they needed no breaking in time.. I played good went 4-1 in games. So I probably would include player performance in the reviews as well.. Just curious if anyone else may do this..
Also just a side note, i personally believe all basketball sneakers should have traction setup like the player one plus.. like tire grip for longevity. That herringbone traction is it.
That's an interesting take bro. So currently I treat Cushion, Traction performance, Traction durability and stability as my main performance KPIs. I believe those are the factors that actually make me play better in terms of improving my overall skill attributes and influencing my performance on the court.... and then I take other things like fit, design, and affordability separately.
It's really similar to what you've expressed, I feel those 4 performance related factors have the biggest impact on how good I play on any given day.
bro which one is better for a small forward the 4 ultras or AC 12? pls help me😊😅
Got you bro. I would go with the 4 ultras, it has more bounce than the AC12s and the impact protection is improved from the previous versions although it's not the best out there.
It also has a carbon fiber plate so better stability and energy return for your position. The midfoot strap is also really nice and keeps you locked into the shoe.
@@theshoesayer i need to ask some question , can you compare these (4ultra) with the wow 11 specifitcly??
@@PrinceynerLionel sure thing bro. so from my personal experience,
the wow 11 is more comfortable for wide footers (especially the forefoot) and has better impact protection.
The 4 ultra has slightly more bounce to it, has by far the better traction performance on dusty surfaces, has a more durable outsole( do not play with the 11s outdoors please), and is more breathable.
I started off playing a lot in the 11s, but these days I've been enjoying playing the ultra 4s a little bit more.
@@theshoesayer ahh man i really" appreciate your effort, now i have been check out the 4 ultras
Do you prefer the 808 4 ultra or all city 12 for a guard?
So it's really close here... the thicker boom in the 4 ultras make it slightly less responsive compared to the AC 12, however the 4 ultras have the carbon Fibre torsional plate in the midfoot vs the plastic piece in the AC12s, which gives you more of a spring forward when running. So I would say you might be quicker laterally with the AC 12s, but quicker going downhill in the 4 ultras.
Would you say 808 4 ultra is your best shoe?
I'm really enjoying playing in them right now. I'll say they're in my current top 5 favorite to play in
What was the sizing like for the player 1 plus? Been hearing mixed reviews size wise
It runs short for me. I went tts and My toes are right in front to the point that it hurts when I move because my big toe bumps against the front of the shoe. I would go at least half a size up, and a full size up for players with very wide feet.
@@theshoesayer bet imma go .5 up 🙏🏽
@@theshoesayer ahh ok bless 🙏🏽
bro i got heel pain when i play in stiff cushion are drop in generally better at impact protection or is it subjective?
Drop ins are generally worse at impact protection bro. Mostly because of the stiff outsole. So I would steer clear. The Wade 808 4 ultra are the best I've tested with a drop in midsole in terms of impact protection but I would probably suggest you go for something like the Way of Wade 10s/11s, Anta Kai 1s, Wade All city 11/12/12 encore, Harden Vol 7s/Vol 8s and the likes.
Oh damn you’re from YYC? 😂
Lol. Yessir! You play at the vision sports centre?
@@theshoesayer Nahh never knew there was runs there
Can you do a 808 3 vs 808 4?
I'll try to line that up bro. I think the 4ultras are better than the 3 ultras which were great. They kept all the great things about the predecessors, then added a thicker drop in midsole and softer plastic in the heel to address the impact protection issue. The mid foot strap in the V4 ultras also keep you stable and locked in despite the thicker boom midsole height.
@@theshoesayer Great! I have the 808 2 and I loved it. I might want to try the 808 4. Thanks