Yo bro amazing review as always, love the detail you go into your reviews and it’s always just straight to the point. I was wondering tho, since it’s my first way of wade/chinese shoe, I was wondering how sizing compares. I’m like a size 10 on the Harden vol 7s, would I also be a size 10 for the encore? or should i do 10.5? I heard WOW a little tighter?
Thanks man I appreciate it. So I would say you should go same size as you did for adidas. The wow10 ran a bit smaller by like half a size, but asides that, most of my Wade brand shoes fit tts
Hats off to you man for giving the vs review...The aesthetics, will always boil down to personal preference..for me ac12 regular is the way to go..but on point comparison/review..
I like them a lot too bro. On court they've performed great so far. Only knocks I would say is that they pick up dust fairly quickly and you need to break them in to get past the slight discomfort in the upper midfoot. Let me know if you have any more things you'd like to know specifically bro.
@@theshoesayer interesting that they went with something that picks up dust given how much success they've had w/ their rubber compounds. maybe it reduces a lot of weight... it looks like the same stuff on the wow 11... is that the case? i forget in your review if you mention that
@@mysteryfollowedbylogic Yeah its the same exact material. Their CGU compound, its found on the Yu shuai 18 as well but picks up less dust in that implementation. My opinion on the dust pick up issue is from the traction pattern as well, they should have gone reasonably spaced regular herringbone or radial with deep groves, but they went with some flattened out pattern especially in the forefoot, so they didnt give the compound a real chance. The wipe is simple enough but as you said, just stick to what works.
Hey man love your videos. Very informative ❤ one thing though you kind of disappear into background when talking, if thats what you are going cool, but if not maybe add a back light to outline your hair line. Again your videos are great quality, good color, pleasant to watch.
Thanks fam. Appreciate the support, and the suggestion bro, I was going for that, but I'll try getting an extra light, and ill play around with both configurations to see what works best. Thanks again!
Got you bro. I'll try to line that up. They're quite solid, however the cushion is more responsive than it is bouncy or lofty. They also have great traction. A solid budget option for sure.
Its kinda hard to get a li ning/wow shoe here in my country, but maybe i might cop these ac 12 🧐 aways want to try these chinese brands, especially wow! Btw great video bro, youtube been recommend your channel for me, now i have to sub 😂🤝
Thanks bro... yeah the Chinese brands are killing it!! You should definitely try the AC12s if you can get them shipped.. thanks for the sub and support man!! Really appreciate it. Let me know if you need any more info.
Yeah they definitely have a wider base. Especially in the forefoot. I like the room, it makes for a more comfortable ride as a have a slightly wide foot.
@@theshoesayer So the Outrigger/ Base are wider than in the 2024 AC12? I’ve got some issues with ankle sprains and don’t know if I should wait for the encores or if I should buy the old AC 12 😅
Spot on! Definitely is. That's still the worst part about the shoes for me. The midfoot could be way more comfortable. On the pair I got, I still feel that pressure on my left foot.
In your opinion do you think the 12 Encore beats out the All City 12 in overall performance? I play indoors, so outsole durability isn't so important to me, but dust pick up is...do you think the solid rubber might fare better on dust?
They play very similar actually. The encores are more breathable, while the 11s are more comfortable. If I had to make a pick, I would go with the WoW 11s.
Traction traction traction. These have similar features and outsoles of the WOW 11s which I’ve played in twice. The performance on dusty courts are poor but they may need time to break in the traction.
Yeah the traction on a dusty court is indeed not the best. They somehow managed to implement the CGU traction on the yu shuai line in a less effective way.
I would go go for the ac12 sunshine state personally for volley-ball, just because it's generally more comfortable so far, and has slightly better courtfeel. Only downside if you play on a concrete court is that the upper of the AC 12 sunshine isn't the most durable.
Mann. You always have the toughest questions 😅. So I've played in the WoW 11 the most right now so I would say it's my personal favorite among these. However, I just got all of these so still testing them out. The 808 4 is super promising though. By the time I play in it some more, it'll probably be either the WoW 11s or the 808 4 ultra. The encores are good too but right now, ill take the other two over it. I'll circle back in a month or so to let you know if my initial assessment changes.
@@theshoesayer I didn't connect of the draw so I have time to get your updated thoughts before I buy.......the no sleep colorway) grey with blue sole is pretty sick , the outsole looks like it's solid rubber to so hoping I get those or even better if they release a orange and blue colorway ( I'm a Knicks fan)
So I got mine off wowsole. I have the exact link in the video description. As for dropping on wayofwade.com I'm not really sure to be honest. Should already be out, but they're focusing on the lauch of the WoW 11 right now so hopefully sometime in the next month or two.
Quick question, how’s the diving board effect from the shank on the encore? I’m so used to my wow 10 Yushuai 18 ultra gamma Liren 4 v2 all wanting to propel me forward with their full length shanks I really can’t go back to a shoe that doesn’t have that sensation lol
Looool. So yeah you're right. I would say you get decent prpulsion, but you definitely don't get propelled forward as much as those shoes you mentioned with the full length carbon Fibre plate.
@ironbearjku2233 about equal bro, if i'm playing exclusively on an indoor court, I'll take the 11s, if I'm playing on an outdoor court, I'll take the 10s
@gojira2404 so its actually very interesting. The heel height is slightly higher in the encores but court feel is pretty much the same as in the regulars. The encores have a wider base so more contact surface area and the outsole is malleable so you kind of feel it deform based on the amount of pressure you apply to it when moving on the floor, almost like it's an extension of your foot.
Yeah, its great on the Yu shuai series, but here instead of doing standard grooves, there are a more flat surfaces which make it pick up dust a bit easier. Similar implementation on the WoW 11s. So its not awful on dust pick up, just not the best out there.
Lol. They seem to testing out this new CGU outsole. It's tougher on the Yushais but the implementation on the WoW 11 and the encores is on the soft side which is a bummer. They claim on all their material that it'll survive outdoors, but I highly dought it. I think they'll get it right in the next implementation though
@@lvplt5003 The boom foam is thicker in the 808 4 ultras which I like (and is really needed actually because of the drop in midsole setup). the 808 4 ultras also have a carbon fibre mid foot plate which improves heel to toe transition. Cushion is good in the regular AC12s and the Encores, with the regular AC12s being more responsive and the encores playing a bit more like the 808 4 ultras.
Personally, after playing in them some more. I would favor the summer AC 12s a little bit, just because the midfoot discomfort I talked about in the video on the left pair keeps bothering me. Asides from that(assuming it's just the pair I got), I enjoy the cushion setup in the encores better. One thing though, if you play outdoors at all, I would suggest you go with the summer AC12s.
@@TheVeganHooper I got you! So they definitely feel like leather to touch and on foot. Tech specs on antosports, wowsole and Famuji also say its regular leather. So they did a great job. However, I ran some old school test, with water, scent, looking closely at the grain patterns etc.... My verdict is that the leather is synthetic... but one of the better ones I've come across.
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Yo bro amazing review as always, love the detail you go into your reviews and it’s always just straight to the point. I was wondering tho, since it’s my first way of wade/chinese shoe, I was wondering how sizing compares. I’m like a size 10 on the Harden vol 7s, would I also be a size 10 for the encore? or should i do 10.5? I heard WOW a little tighter?
Thanks man I appreciate it. So I would say you should go same size as you did for adidas. The wow10 ran a bit smaller by like half a size, but asides that, most of my Wade brand shoes fit tts
Hats off to you man for giving the vs review...The aesthetics, will always boil down to personal preference..for me ac12 regular is the way to go..but on point comparison/review..
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Appreciate the review brother
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Those encores look 🔥🔥🔥 I'm definitely buying those
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Encore's look incredible. Would love more on court thoughts
I like them a lot too bro. On court they've performed great so far. Only knocks I would say is that they pick up dust fairly quickly and you need to break them in to get past the slight discomfort in the upper midfoot. Let me know if you have any more things you'd like to know specifically bro.
@@theshoesayer interesting that they went with something that picks up dust given how much success they've had w/ their rubber compounds. maybe it reduces a lot of weight... it looks like the same stuff on the wow 11... is that the case? i forget in your review if you mention that
@@mysteryfollowedbylogic Yeah its the same exact material. Their CGU compound, its found on the Yu shuai 18 as well but picks up less dust in that implementation. My opinion on the dust pick up issue is from the traction pattern as well, they should have gone reasonably spaced regular herringbone or radial with deep groves, but they went with some flattened out pattern especially in the forefoot, so they didnt give the compound a real chance. The wipe is simple enough but as you said, just stick to what works.
Hey man love your videos. Very informative ❤ one thing though you kind of disappear into background when talking, if thats what you are going cool, but if not maybe add a back light to outline your hair line. Again your videos are great quality, good color, pleasant to watch.
Thanks fam. Appreciate the support, and the suggestion bro, I was going for that, but I'll try getting an extra light, and ill play around with both configurations to see what works best. Thanks again!
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They also have the ac12 summer colorway that has like a different upper design with more mesh and not so much synthetic overlays.
Yup yup! Those are fire too
Nice review could you make a review on the Way of Wade Son of Flash
Got you bro. I'll try to line that up. They're quite solid, however the cushion is more responsive than it is bouncy or lofty. They also have great traction. A solid budget option for sure.
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Encore's heel looks.. hard to describe, kinda funny looking. Other than that it looks a bit better than regular
lol. They got a bit too creative with it eh?
Its kinda hard to get a li ning/wow shoe here in my country, but maybe i might cop these ac 12 🧐 aways want to try these chinese brands, especially wow!
Btw great video bro, youtube been recommend your channel for me, now i have to sub 😂🤝
Thanks bro... yeah the Chinese brands are killing it!! You should definitely try the AC12s if you can get them shipped.. thanks for the sub and support man!! Really appreciate it. Let me know if you need any more info.
Do the Encores have a wider base? They look almost as wide as the WoW 11s
Yeah they definitely have a wider base. Especially in the forefoot. I like the room, it makes for a more comfortable ride as a have a slightly wide foot.
@@theshoesayer So the Outrigger/ Base are wider than in the 2024 AC12?
I’ve got some issues with ankle sprains and don’t know if I should wait for the encores or if I should buy the old AC 12 😅
Any lace pressure from the encores? That tongue looks thin
Spot on! Definitely is. That's still the worst part about the shoes for me. The midfoot could be way more comfortable. On the pair I got, I still feel that pressure on my left foot.
In your opinion do you think the 12 Encore beats out the All City 12 in overall performance? I play indoors, so outsole durability isn't so important to me, but dust pick up is...do you think the solid rubber might fare better on dust?
Yeah so if I'm playing on a clean indoor court. I'll go with the encores.... if the court is more on the dusty side, I'll pick up the regular AC 12s
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How do the encores compare to the WoW 11s?
They play very similar actually.
The encores are more breathable, while the 11s are more comfortable. If I had to make a pick, I would go with the WoW 11s.
ac 12 encore can play outdoor?
Nahh fam. The outsole will wear quickly.
@@theshoesayerbut regular ac12 can?
Traction traction traction. These have similar features and outsoles of the WOW 11s which I’ve played in twice. The performance on dusty courts are poor but they may need time to break in the traction.
Yeah the traction on a dusty court is indeed not the best. They somehow managed to implement the CGU traction on the yu shuai line in a less effective way.
What’s better for volleyball ac12 “sunshine state” or ac 12 encore “Family Love” i’ll buy it next month for my birthday. thank you for your help.
I would go go for the ac12 sunshine state personally for volley-ball, just because it's generally more comfortable so far, and has slightly better courtfeel. Only downside if you play on a concrete court is that the upper of the AC 12 sunshine isn't the most durable.
How's the heel lockdown on the AC12 Encore? Did you notice any heel slip before you broke them in? Thanks!
Lock down was great bro. No issues with heel slippage at all. If anything the shoes were too fitted in the midfoot originally before I broke them in
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I’ll stick to the 12s. I don’t like the aesthetics of Encore at all, and 12s are more durable
which is your favorite wow 11, ac 12 encore, or 808 4?
Mann. You always have the toughest questions 😅. So I've played in the WoW 11 the most right now so I would say it's my personal favorite among these. However, I just got all of these so still testing them out. The 808 4 is super promising though. By the time I play in it some more, it'll probably be either the WoW 11s or the 808 4 ultra. The encores are good too but right now, ill take the other two over it. I'll circle back in a month or so to let you know if my initial assessment changes.
@@theshoesayer I didn't connect of the draw so I have time to get your updated thoughts before I buy.......the no sleep colorway) grey with blue sole is pretty sick , the outsole looks like it's solid rubber to so hoping I get those or even better if they release a orange and blue colorway ( I'm a Knicks fan)
@@hummoses Yeah man. those are nice! I also really like the the white upper with the black outsoles, but I'm not sure when those will drop.
@@theshoesayer I ended up getting the TNS colorway really happy with the decision! Thanks for your video
when do the 12 encores drop? specifically that colorway
So I got mine off wowsole. I have the exact link in the video description. As for dropping on wayofwade.com I'm not really sure to be honest. Should already be out, but they're focusing on the lauch of the WoW 11 right now so hopefully sometime in the next month or two.
Quick question, how’s the diving board effect from the shank on the encore? I’m so used to my wow 10 Yushuai 18 ultra gamma Liren 4 v2 all wanting to propel me forward with their full length shanks I really can’t go back to a shoe that doesn’t have that sensation lol
Looool. So yeah you're right. I would say you get decent prpulsion, but you definitely don't get propelled forward as much as those shoes you mentioned with the full length carbon Fibre plate.
@@theshoesayer appreciate the insight, last question, you recommend the wow 11 over the 10s or vice versa or they about equal?
@ironbearjku2233 about equal bro, if i'm playing exclusively on an indoor court, I'll take the 11s, if I'm playing on an outdoor court, I'll take the 10s
@@theshoesayerI know this a month old but, how do the encore compare to the Wade 11s?
How about courtfeel? Is it the same 2.4cm heel height with a 0.8cm drop?
@gojira2404 so its actually very interesting. The heel height is slightly higher in the encores but court feel is pretty much the same as in the regulars. The encores have a wider base so more contact surface area and the outsole is malleable so you kind of feel it deform based on the amount of pressure you apply to it when moving on the floor, almost like it's an extension of your foot.
AC12 Encore, 808 4 Ultra or WOW 11 ?
So personally, I would go 1. 808 4 Ultra , 2. Wow 11 , 3. Encore
i thought GCU is supposed to be the superior traction on dust
Yeah, its great on the Yu shuai series, but here instead of doing standard grooves, there are a more flat surfaces which make it pick up dust a bit easier. Similar implementation on the WoW 11s. So its not awful on dust pick up, just not the best out there.
does the ac 12 fit the same lengthwise as the encores?
Yup. Yes they do
Noooooooo I wanted the Encores for outdoors 😢
Lol. They seem to testing out this new CGU outsole. It's tougher on the Yushais but the implementation on the WoW 11 and the encores is on the soft side which is a bummer.
They claim on all their material that it'll survive outdoors, but I highly dought it.
I think they'll get it right in the next implementation though
are these better than the 808 4s?
I would put the 808 4 ultras above these in my opinion
@@theshoesayer and for the cushion?
@@lvplt5003 The boom foam is thicker in the 808 4 ultras which I like (and is really needed actually because of the drop in midsole setup). the 808 4 ultras also have a carbon fibre mid foot plate which improves heel to toe transition. Cushion is good in the regular AC12s and the Encores, with the regular AC12s being more responsive and the encores playing a bit more like the 808 4 ultras.
encore vs 808 4 ultra
Still testing them out fam. The 4 Ultras have the slight edge for now I would say. But I'll circle back after I've played in them both multiple times.
Hmmm 🤔 Harden vol.8 + Jordan 39 vibes .. low top version
Hmm. Fair assessment to be honest
i want to buy 12 encore should i go same size as all city12?
Yeah! same size
Is the encores better or the summer ac12s
Personally, after playing in them some more. I would favor the summer AC 12s a little bit, just because the midfoot discomfort I talked about in the video on the left pair keeps bothering me. Asides from that(assuming it's just the pair I got), I enjoy the cushion setup in the encores better. One thing though, if you play outdoors at all, I would suggest you go with the summer AC12s.
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Is the encore got thicker boom?
Yes it does, slightly higher heel height but without sacrificing court feel because of its wider base and softer outsole material
Where did you buy that?🔥🔥🔥
I got it off wowsole fam. There should be a link in the video description
Is the toebox of the encore made out of synthetic leather?
Yeah its leather.
@@theshoesayer sorry my guy, real or synthetic? Thanks for the comparison review! 👊🏻
@@TheVeganHooper I got you! So they definitely feel like leather to touch and on foot. Tech specs on antosports, wowsole and Famuji also say its regular leather. So they did a great job. However, I ran some old school test, with water, scent, looking closely at the grain patterns etc.... My verdict is that the leather is synthetic... but one of the better ones I've come across.
@@theshoesayer I really appreciate that bro, great insight to know that info. Keep up the good work 👊🏻
@@TheVeganHooper Thanks man!
Sizing?
TTS for both should do. If you have a really wide foot then you can go half a size up
@@theshoesayer thank you 🙂
@@icg2412 For sure!
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