How to size a Seiko (or any!) Pin and Collar Bracelet. Watch and Learn #15
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- čas přidán 25. 01. 2017
- In the last episode of Watch and Learn, we showed you how to size the standard friction or cotter pin bracelet. Today, we tackle the mighty Pin and Collar bracelet that so many people are frightened of. We have all read the horror stories, and maybe even experienced one ourselves when sizing these popular bracelets.
With a little know how, and some 'Watch and Learn' under your belt, there is no need to be apprehensive. We will show you how to tackle the pin and collar bracelet with standard strap tools, and also some non conventional items like paper clips.
This video uses a few tools, and showcases some items available on our website.
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Pin pusher: www.longislandwatch.com/Watch_...
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Seiko Monster bracelet: www.longislandwatch.com/Seiko_...
Seiko Turtle bracelet: www.longislandwatch.com/Seiko_... - Jak na to + styl
Marc, I can’t thank you enough for this. My Citizen Paradigm titanium bracelet was kicking my butt, then I searched for this and immediately found your video. Just like you said, the collar was on the pin pusher. These topics are not glamorous or sexy, but we amateurs need this badly. You, sir, have the heart of a teacher!
Out of all the videos FINALLY one that gets to the point and is detailed. You MUST be a professional watch repair person because this video is so refreshing and helpful!!!
So I bought my dad a Prospex and eagerly started the watch sizing.... Having NEVER come across collar and pin... Immediately lost the collar in a deep pile white rug.... Then found it and spent 3.. Yes 3 hours trying to sort the bastard thing out. I could not figure out which end (!...) the collar went in. However, I figured it out by mistake and the watch is still in one piece 3 years and counting! So I think you for this review as I've just ordered an Audaz Octomarine! Keep rocking my friend. Thank you for your amazing teaching videos! 🙏❤️👍
Thanks, this video saved my butt when resizing my son's new Citizen watch. Did it on my own to start with, I was incredibly lucky not to lose the collars. Once I saw those, I knew I needed help and found your video. My son's new (2019) Citizen is different than my older one, which is like the Seiko you show here. The newer Citizen has the collar drop into the inner tang of the link, not the outer, which makes assembly and removal much easier, just drop the collar in, put the link together, then drive the pin through. Thanks again for making Dad look good.
Me too. Removed the pin and this tiny split pipe thing dropped out. I’m like: uh oh! So easy once you got it
Thank you so much, your comment saved me! I couldn’t realise where the collar went in until i you said so
NOTE: For presage bracelet, you also need to drop the collar from inner side of the link. you won't be able to drop it from outside.
And Prospex models as well.
Beat me to it.
Same for the Snowflake.
And for Citizen watches.
SARB033? It has collars, but I can't squeeze them back in the hole I think they came out of.
Thanks Marc !! This video is the best watch bracelet instruction video. I am a Mechanical Engineer by profession, knew there were pins & collars, but thanks for taking us through it step by step.
Thank you for such a lucid professionally produced video. You are not only very knowledgeable and thorough in your delivery, but explain everything to make it all look so simple! Very well done indeed. Thanks.
Excellent video, Mark. Thank you for explaining how to easily size a pin-and-collar bracelet. After having sized many bracelets that use the cotter pin system, thanks to your simple tutorial, I can confidently proceed to what I had formally perceived as a complex coupler.
Thanks again for this video!!
I used your video to size my Seiko monster over 3 years ago and here I am again sizing my new Seiko turtle PADI.
Totally forgot about the fork tip method at the end of the procedure but after watching that segment, I finished my project.
Seriously Buddy, thanks for the detailed explanation and excellent camera angles!
Thanks for this.
It went into the middle part in mine rather than the outside part as shown in the video.
I used a sewing needle to pick the collar up. It made it really easy to get into the hole.
My 39.5mm Clean Ocean arrived today, absolutely stunning watch and I love the size, I am used to 44mm watches but this looks so elegant for a diver.
Proud to own an Oris
Yes, yes, yes. What a relief!
I was determined not to mess up (another) Seiko bracelet because of my lack of knowledge and technique regarding P&C. Easy once you know how. Thanks again Marc!
Mark, this video saved my tail today when I went to adjust my Seiko Presage. I figured it was just a friction / cotter pin adjustment, but nope! I tried to pull out the pin and it would not pull out all the way. Then I remembered this series and watched this video. My collar was hidden in the center of the bracelet. As I watched, you said, “expect the unexpected.” So I grabbed a white paper plate to put under the bracelet. Good thing, as I yanked the pin out the collar popped out of the center and was trapped inside the lip of the plate. Another watch nube saved by Mark of Long Island Watch!
Love your Watch n Learn series. 100 or so more and I'll begin to feel competent. Great job!
Great video, helped me size my Grand Seiko rep. You're a gem to the rep community. We love you.
Thanks for the quality instructional videos. This just saved my new watch! I definitely would have forgotten to check for a collar when I sized the watch. Also, I'm not sure it was in this video specifically but I never knew about micro adjustment until now. So thanks again and keep up the quality videos!
Any extremely informative video on sizing a pin and collar system bracelet. I watched your video Mark about 5 times before attempting this on my Seiko Blumo. Because of your video and patience it was actually much easier than I thought it would be. I also have the same tools you do which is a must . Thanks so much for this detailed video was extremely helpful 👍🏻
Marc, thank you so much! Your sizing videos saved me from some major errors.
I know this video is 5 years old but I had to chime in after watching said video. I have a HEIMDALLR monster that uses a pin & collar setup but the collar sits in the middle of the link instead of at the end. When resizing you have to put the collar in the middle link first, place the 2 links together then push the pin through. Also worth noting, the pin can be pushed in either side.
After watching this video I had to go back to my HEIMDALLR that I sized 2 years ago to double check my work. It was all good.
Thanks for all the great videos you make, I love learning new stuff.
this was a tremendous help in sizing my new King Turtle. I'm used to Casio pin & collar systems, but this was something different. thank you so much!
Thanks again Marc! This has to be the tenth time I've referred to this video. Always a lifesaving reminder of correctly dealing with pins and collars.
these colar and pin systems are a complete nightmare to resize. Not just because it so fiddly and really adds nothing to the reliability or function of the bracelet, but because the collar part is SO TINY that if it flicks off when you are working on it you will never see it again and these are very hard and expensive ton get as replacement parts.
Great instructional. Sized my first pin-and-collar and felt like an old pro thanks to Marc. No problems, it was easy. But it would've been a nightmare had I not known.
Thank you so much for this tutorial! I had no idea how to put the collars back on again... I really appreciate your help. 🙏🏻
I had my Casio Lineage delivered from Japan yesterday, and of course I immediately set out to shorten the bracelet. I wasn’t aware of the pins and collars variety of bracelets, so I would have gone absolutely crazy, had I not found this clip. It literally saved my day. I cannot thank you enough! Now I can wear my new watch proudly! (The construction differs on my bracelet in that the collars go on the inside of the link, but the principle is the same.)
Thank you sir. i just bought a tool kit to size my newly bought seiko 5. you are such a big help. smart guy too! subbed!!
Mark, thank you for the tutorial! It was invaluable to see what I was getting into. So right about making sure you watch for things that drop. In my case there was a wrinkle for my Seiko SPB241 the collar was in the middle link and not on the outside.
Very well executed video. So glad I watched this before attempting to resize my own Seiko. Video must have been made with me in mind, the watch used is exactly the same as my own!
An excellent guide! Takes the 'stress' out of it. Clear, practical and easy to follow x
Thank you so much for a detailed DIY guide on this. I just bought my first seiko monster recently and this video prepared me perfectly on how to resize my band.
Great, thank you!
Thank you for a very informational video. I am about to size my Seiko watch bracelet for the first time and I would have never known about the pipes without your help.
Thanks for this video! I just successfully resized the bracelet on my new SRP775 using the handheld tool and another one of the spare bits during reassembly.
Thanks Marc - just resized my Monster in 5 minutes saving a bunch of time and mental energy after watching your video - a great service to the watch owner, thanks again.
Dude I just bought my first steel bracelet watch and didn't know about this collar pin system. Your video safed my watch. I was able to find all my collars and will put my watch together soon!
Thank you so much! :)
As usual an excellent video, very informative. A most have on any DIY watchfan's Playlist.
Thank you very much Mark🙏
Once again, Marc's videos saved my butt. Your videos are always informative, and well-put together. I'd heard of pin & collar before, but didn't fully understand the complexities and idiosyncrasies. Your expert tutelage guided me through since again…
Thank you Marc!
Very useful video. I only saw it after I'd discovered the bracelet I was adjusting had this system. It was a voyage of discovery when I noticed the tiny collar on the cloth I had the watch on, while doing the adjustment. I worked it out and eventually got it all sorted, but if I'd seen this video first it would have been much easier and straight forward. Another very useful and clear video. I've since sold the watch and included the link (no pun intended!) to this video for the person that bought it. Many thanks.
Thanks Marc, awesome video that helped me with my new Samurai. You're the realest Watch Guy on CZcams.
Thank you so much for this information. I thought I may have totally ruined my strap, but I now have a bit of hope I may be able to fix it myself, as luckily I have the pins and collars.
This was terrific Mark. Great video. Helped with my Seiko PADI. Thanks again.
Good work! Got my Seiko Speedtimer SSC911 today. Glad I found your video.
Really appreciate these videos Mark!
Excellent tutorial, thank you! Got my new King Turtle bracelet re-sized in no time. Great tip on using a large paperclip to set the collar!
Wow, this was helpful. I jist picked up a Presage w pin & collar, your video saved my sanity Marc!
Thank you Marc for this exceptionally useful video. The entire watch community (including professionals/jewellers) is indebted to you for such a lucid and thorough tutorial.
Brian Hinder Thanks for the kind words!
Well said Brian!! I second that for sure! You are the man Marc! Thank you!!
Thanks Marc! Just resized my first pin & collar bracelet on my Seiko SRP637K1.
Most helpful... The jeweler, my son bought his Movado Bold from, adjusted it and left collars out. You saved us some $$$ Thank you
Thanks so much for the video! I just received my Grand Seiko Snowflake which has a pin and collar, and was able to size it myself fairly painlessly by following this.
Nice! Gorgeous watch!
Thank you so much. My courage was created 'watching' you. ha! So I ordered the tools and followed your easy instructional and had the watch on my wrist in 20 minutes!
Thanks, Marc. Video has been up for years but it’s new to me. Thanks!
Excellent, excellent, excellent!!!! This is a fantastic series with this one being most helpful to us Seiko owners.
Lee K So glad to hear it. Thanks for watching.
Right after watching the video I dug out my Turtle bracelet and sized it myself using the techniques you described. I had purchased it last year already sized but it didn't fit quite right so I needed to remove one more link and change the micro adjustment in the clasp. Everything went smoothly and I now have no fear in the future of the pin and collar system. Thanks again!
Lee K awesome!
Thank you! This is the last type of bracelet sizing I haven't learned yet. Just bought a Speedmaster Reduced which uses this system.
Great information and video. Thanks. I was looking all over for my collar. It is on the watch took just like you said! I don't think I'd have found that.
Thanks, Marc, for an excellent, very useful video. The first time I try to size the bracelet on a Seiko Prospex PADI diver, I knew nothing of pin and collar bracelets, and lost a couple of the collars before I realized I was in over my head. I wish I had known about you and this very helpful series of videos.
Hello! Greetings from Brazil! Just wanna let you know that this video saved my life today. I got myself a Seiko Turtle and what a surprise when I took the first link out and that little piece of metal popped out of nowhere onto the floor ... lol... I was about to give up and take the brand new thing to a shop when I found this video. Thank you so much!
Thanks a lot, I did my first Seiko bracelet resizing today. It was successful and I only lost one collar thanks to your great video!
Yup. I'm one of those guys!
Marc, you just saved me my sanity, thank you!
In my youth I previously had 3 Seiko watches, all with split pin type bracelets. I was unaware of the Pin and Collar gizmo.
After many years of iffy watches I decided to buy a nice diver again and today I received my SBDC029 Shogun.
When I got home I began scrounging round the house for a suitable tool to resize/remove a link or 2 etc and after failing to find a decent pin or paper clip, a tool in the Samsung phone box seemed to meet the requirements.
I pushed the first pin out the right way (that much I knew), and proceeded to the next only to notice this tiny other cylindrical piece of metal lying there. Curious I put it aside and lone behold after the 2nd pin another one (the collars)
Terrified I was messing up big time I hopped onto google and youtube and this video came up.
Thanks man, this really helped.
Big thumbs up and sub.
You are a legend, Marc. Thank you for the tutorials, thay are all awesome and this one is no different.
good stuff, first time trying to do this because someone gave me a fancy watch and you explained everything very well and I had no issues thanks man
Thanks Marc. Another great video. Next order I plan to get your tool kit and start doing the sizing and strap changing myself. You're tops amigo !!!
Roberto Fuentes Thank you and thanks for checking out the video.
Thank you so much for a great video! It was very well explained step by step and I was able to do a bracelet adjustment for the first time ever :) Appreciate it! 😁
Nicely done, Marc. Thanks for the video. I'm always interested in learning and you have provided many videos to expand my knowledge.
Thank you.
Great Tutorial. Thank you for putting this together. I needed this for my Seiko Turtle PADI. Cheers.
Thank you. You are a great asset to the watch community.
Great video. pins and collers are tricky but with the right tools and a loupe to inspect your work it gets easier
rvfixerguybrian Yes, very true!
Thanks so much. Thsnks to you I figured out that my watch came wothout one collar in a link.
I was sizing down so I had a spare collar and I could use the spare.
Legend.
I’m really excited about learning more about watches and collecting them .
Thank you so much! Your description was right on! You saved my ass! My wife's RADO ceramic band needed adjusting and after watching your video I realized I lost the collar! Have more pins & collars coming in next few days and will replay this video many time so as not to screw up this fine watch! Many kudos on an excellent educational video - WELL DONE!
Great video! Thank you for providing this useful information.
Big help; have the same Monster and was able to remove one link with your help. Was tedious as hell, had terrible tools to work with, and I made lots of mistakes in the process, but finally got it right. Much better fit now!
Thanks for this great video, I've had to stop wearing my more than half gold Seiko watch and band combo which was a way more expensive watch, for the past few months in Melbourne Australia now as all the shops are still in a high stage lock down, but with my tools I have I was able to setup a nice flat and white coloured work area and add a link to my rather expensive Seiko watch. Can't thank you enough, from Steve in Melb, Vic, Aust.
Great video! I was struggling to figure out how to get the link back in after taking some out in my new Seiko. This has helped massively 👌👊
You saved my life ;) ! I was searching everywhere for "lost" collar and yet there it was sitting on the pushing pin of the vice.
Really informative. Just learnt how to size all watches myself as I just bought a few. Thanks for knowledge sharing!!
I googled "resize Seiko bracelet" and fortunately this was the first hit. I was dealing with a new turtle and completely forgot about the collars until watching this. Fortunately I found a spare collar and used your video to fix my bracelet. Thanks!!
I'm glad I saw this. I didn't realize this pin/collar system existed. Surely this will save me some future anguish. Thanks for doing these, Marc.
Thanks for checking it out.
Thank you Mark for posting this. I had my jeweler resize my turtle bracelet only for it to fall apart days later. I took it back to him and he put the pin/collar in backwards (again). Just fixed it myself at home with the help of your video. Cheers.
Great, thanks!
Much appreciated. With this video I was able to size my brand new Seiko Prospex SNR025 (probably a once in a lifetime purchase) properly.
This was super helpful, had a citizen promaster where the bracelet collars sit in the middle of the link and this helped me understand how it all worked :)
Very helpful for DIY types. Thank you Marc.
Another very helpful video. Thanks Marc.
I just adjusted my sumo thank you for your help 👍🏼
what a guy, I love when someone will give u too much info. I appreciate explaining the purpose for every parts you touched!
Great instructional video Mark. The high quality video with the close ups really helped.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed.
Very useful and informative video. I wish I had watched it a few days earlier. Just last week, I received A new Seiko Prospex solar PADI dive watch, with a pin & collar bracelet. I have done other bracelets many years ago, but none were pin and collar. In fact, I didn’t know that Pin and collar existed! So I proceeded to do exactly what you described, I didn’t realize the collars were even there until after I had lost one. Doh! Fortunately, I didn’t like the bracelet even before I bought the watch, so I just ordered a bracelet I liked much better and put a NATO strap on the watch until the other one came. At least now I know what went wrong. Thanks again for an excellent video!👍
Been wondering what I had done when resizing as I'm not accustom to the pin and collar. Found your video. Going to go try right now.
Excellent tutorial. Thank you!🎉🎉🎉
Great video, thanks Marc - just done exactly what you describe with the bracelet falling off my new Seiko Ginza after adjusting it :) Now i can remedy that.
Thanks Mark - found both collars that I thought were lost on my push tools. This saved me some $$ to put toward an Islander!
This video was a lifesaver. Thanks!
That piece looks amazing
Thanks for the watch and learn. Was a bit tricky getting the collar seated in my new Turtle but with a little perseverance I got it! Great advice, tutorials and quick shipping! Thanks, Marc and IW!
Nice work!
Thank you for this video. It was really helpful in resizing my monster!
Nice video Marc. I sized my Seiko SPAR21 using your method.
However, I found it easier to place the collar in the center of the link, arrow side, then putting the 2 links together and following through with the pin.
This is the absolute best and most comprehensive video I have seen on this.
Thanks Mark for your very easy to follow instructions. I dont have the most steady hands in the world but managed to size my sumo I just got in the mail with no tweezers and using the tools I had lying around which happened to be the same ones featured in the video. I did lose 1 collar but managed to not lose any others, definitely made the rest of the sizing pretty stressful knowing that if I lost another one I'd be screwed haha. Thanks again for saving me about #20-$30, your a legend.
YES! The collars are tiny and if you're holding one with tweezers and they slip slightly, the collar is launched into the air, never to be seen again.
Fantastic. Very helpful!
thank u mark for the presentation. i use a very simple tool with a "nail" end that happen to be exactly the same collar diameter. and to fit it back in i just hold it against a wooden table and push the pin back in from the opposit side (sometimes gove in a hit with a mini hummer). thank you again and look forward to watch your next video. very educating.
regards.
Alex B.H.S Perfect. Whatever works, right?
I was sizing my Citizen eco titanium after I lost a couple of pounds and didn’t know anything about pin and collars until I saw and heard the collars pop out. I picked saved them not knowing what they were but figured they were important. I took out a link and put the watch together but of ourselves there was nothing holding the pins in. I watched your video and learned. Of course when I put the extra pin and collars into the original box I saw where the original links removed when I bought the watch and there were pins and collars in a small plastic bag. I am on the way to my local jeweler to have the bracelet put together properly because I know it is beyond my capability. Thank you for adding to my knowledge of watches. I am a long time subscriber.
Great great video! Just adjusted my new seiko blue lagoon with ease because of your video. Thanks so much!
Ahhh, great watch!