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  • Baker Mayfield remains on the Cleveland Browns roster despite adding Deshaun Watson in a blockbuster trade with the Houston Texans. Watson is expected to be the starting quarterback for the Browns after agreeing to a 5yr/$230M fully guaranteed contract extension. Thus prompting incumbent QB Baker Mayfield to request a trade from Cleveland. Former Browns left tackle Joe Thomas believes Baker Mayfield overplayed his hand in demanding a trade & dictating his future. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe react to Thomas’ remarks toward Baker.
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  • @UndisputedOnFS1
    @UndisputedOnFS1  Před 2 lety +17

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  • @cbro412
    @cbro412 Před 2 lety +316

    "He publicly humiliated them with his play" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @DCUPtoejuice
      @DCUPtoejuice Před 2 lety +1

      @Senna_Grillo 12 I don't think Baker talked too much about his injury, he just SUCKED this season and it was not just his labrum.

    • @markjackson6134
      @markjackson6134 Před 2 lety +2

      @Senna_Grillo 12 It's his fault too but in these situations I more blame the coaches, trainers, GM, medical,...It's their job to take him out of the game. Similar to RGIII when he was in Washington. If I could give a % it would be 60-40 Team/Player blame.

    • @DuckDaPhillyFan
      @DuckDaPhillyFan Před 2 lety +4

      I was at my desk & dam near screamed 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @nickjordan8996
      @nickjordan8996 Před 2 lety +3

      That's funny. Before Baker no one talked about the Browns at all. They were terrible before Baker and they'll be sorry without him.

    • @tappedndaily2321
      @tappedndaily2321 Před 4 měsíci

      Im over here crying looking at these old videos. Unc the goat😂😂😂

  • @imtryingringo761
    @imtryingringo761 Před 2 lety +323

    Baker over played his hand by forcing them to move "Odell", Then he couldn't produce any wins... Odell winning a "SUPER BOWL!" Was the last straw!

    • @terrancepage4716
      @terrancepage4716 Před 2 lety +17

      Wait why was super bowl in parentheses

    • @polumathes9729
      @polumathes9729 Před 2 lety +6

      Odell didn’t win anything. That’s like saying Byron Leftwitch won a super bowl in 2010. Sure, technically he did, but he had nothing to do with it.

    • @abbycaron2198
      @abbycaron2198 Před 2 lety +74

      @@polumathes9729 lol he literally scored a TD that they needed.

    • @asarisa-rakuwauavibaya7254
      @asarisa-rakuwauavibaya7254 Před 2 lety +36

      @@abbycaron2198 literally lol 😆 I don't think that person watched the game.

    • @jbtreshawn
      @jbtreshawn Před 2 lety +15

      @@abbycaron2198 He was killing in Tampa too

  • @mrbigpun9438
    @mrbigpun9438 Před 2 lety +587

    The patience Shannon shows daily while dealing with skip should applauded

    • @drewhellriegel6237
      @drewhellriegel6237 Před 2 lety +12

      I say that every show lol

    • @SignalCorps1
      @SignalCorps1 Před 2 lety +29

      True, but keep in mind, this was Skip’s show and he went out a got Shannon as his counterpart. Shannon has mentioned several times how appreciative he is to Skip for given him this role. That said, Shannon is right a lot more often than skip, other than in his view of LaBron relative to MJ.

    • @michaeln3936
      @michaeln3936 Před 2 lety

      👏 👏 👏 👏

    • @jonp7277
      @jonp7277 Před 2 lety +11

      Give him Will’s Oscar.

    • @perrywashington2191
      @perrywashington2191 Před 2 lety

      Big facts

  • @dreezy1270
    @dreezy1270 Před 2 lety +140

    Skip is hurting right now 😂

  • @Brandon-et1ci
    @Brandon-et1ci Před 2 lety +47

    Skip is gonna mention that 8-3 run EVERY single time 😭😭

    • @MDCxThePG
      @MDCxThePG Před 2 lety +8

      And always brings up some random pro football focus stat too.

    • @mictza450
      @mictza450 Před 2 lety +1

      And ""Big Time Throws "

    • @stbsole
      @stbsole Před 2 lety

      This is how he functions. See how he slurped manziel, how he only mentions tebows rookie games or his 8-8 year that was miraculous. If you have skip in your corner, you have someone who will love you hard lol

    • @maximilianmetzner2065
      @maximilianmetzner2065 Před 2 lety

      Tim Tebow in Denver all over again 🙄 cherry picking one good run, erasing all the awfulness around it and bring up the ONE good run for years on end.

    • @davidbailey9073
      @davidbailey9073 Před rokem +1

      6 MONTHS LATER.......HE STILL DUZ, IZ THIS GOOFBALL IZ EMBARRASSING AND BUTTHURT😩

  • @antsosa6635
    @antsosa6635 Před 2 lety +89

    If deshaun has 22 civil suits against him and the browns still take him over baker what does that say about baker 🤔 skip has no argument here

    • @JordanRA
      @JordanRA Před 2 lety +17

      They're willing to go all in for someone that may not even be able to play. That says all you need to know. No argument whatsoever. Idk why Skip is dying on this hill for Baker lol

    • @tjbaby0
      @tjbaby0 Před 2 lety

      @@JordanRA Browns were a terrible football team this year. I'm a Browns fan. I watched every snap. Run the film vs the Chargers, and tell me we loss cuz of Baker. Run the film vs the Chiefs, when you have guys like Chubb fumbling and Schwartz dropping 3rd and 9 passes. Run the tape vs the Steelers at home, you got Jarvis fumbling, Jarvis dropping and odell quitting midway in the air, trying to catch a catchable ball. LOL. The ones that think baker is sooo bad, ya'll are just casuals really. We were a terrible team this year and baker got framed. Ya'll should compare Baker's QBR to his team's defensive rankings, tell me who ranked higher every year, then try and tell me that the Browns were just a quarterback away from winning the Super Bowl LOL. All ya'll are clowns just like our front office for doing this trade. We're no closer to a super bowl than we were with Baker, and if Deshaun doesn't win us one, then we'll be the biggest losers of this all.

    • @santiagobuenos9673
      @santiagobuenos9673 Před 2 lety +4

      @@tjbaby0 None of those guys making mistakes were number one overall picks

    • @williambreeze2659
      @williambreeze2659 Před 2 lety

      Facts 👌

    • @APennysworth
      @APennysworth Před 2 lety +1

      Says more about the lack of morals of the Browns tbh.

  • @1JAM229
    @1JAM229 Před 2 lety +160

    Skip will forever blame Odell. Its interesting how he wasn't a problem for Stafford, though. Odell had a legitimate shot of being Super Bowl MVP before getting injured. Stafford and the offense struggled once Odell went out by turning it over twice and having several three and outs.

    • @paradisearcher9334
      @paradisearcher9334 Před 2 lety +15

      Skip definitely tried to to push the narrative that Odell was the problem when Stafford started throwing more INT when Odell got there

    • @samuelwilliams3044
      @samuelwilliams3044 Před 2 lety +8

      Cooper Kupp getting doubled all day that’s what frees up beckham

    • @KevinDiazx11
      @KevinDiazx11 Před 2 lety +3

      But odell was the problem bc he didn’t wanted to be in Cleveland 😂😂 and that’s a simple fact …who wants to be in Cleveland anyways

    • @Janny890
      @Janny890 Před 2 lety +1

      Skip is going to blame Baker if Odell goes Tampa.

    • @KevinDiazx11
      @KevinDiazx11 Před 2 lety

      @@Janny890 nah skip be happy to have 2 qbs he likes on the same team beside baker can used that to keep learning and let his injuries heal properly

  • @ManicSV3
    @ManicSV3 Před 2 lety +67

    Shannon should've hit skip with that "Sam Darnold has a job" line again 🤣

    • @cecildavis1418
      @cecildavis1418 Před 2 lety +20

      That one hurt Skip last week 🤣

    • @GvillBoy
      @GvillBoy Před 2 lety

      He should've. My god that joint was funny.

  • @JordanRA
    @JordanRA Před 2 lety +160

    Shannon: "He publicly humiliated them with his play" 💀💀😂😂
    This is the weirdest, most awful hill to die on Skip. Baker is bad, let's just be honest with ourselves.

    • @S51121
      @S51121 Před 2 lety +11

      The thing is Baker can totally be a starter. It's just Skip be saying he can be as good as Deshaun or top 10..

    • @steve-o1012
      @steve-o1012 Před 2 lety +9

      I think Baker could be a game manager QB for a good team. But Skip thinking he’s like the next coming of Steve Young or something is beyond me

    • @JordanRA
      @JordanRA Před 2 lety +1

      @@S51121 I'll concede that, but in terms of like, all the rest of the starting QBs maybe minus Danny Dimes or Darnold, I think he's down there. Maybe on a certain team he could be good enough but he really needs to shore up the wild throws/plays. Reminds me a lot of Carson Wentz actually 😂

    • @jimai808
      @jimai808 Před 2 lety +2

      Skip is just a homer. Remember how long he was on the Jay cutler bandwagon for no other reason than he was from vanderbilt?

    • @SmokinAcexX
      @SmokinAcexX Před 2 lety +1

      @@JordanRA hes probably top 20 he had a down year but if you really look around the league theres alot of questionable qbs and atleast hes had success before , the problem is right now the top like 5-10 guys are pretty far from the rest of the pack , seattle, saints, giants, lions, texans, jets, pathers, bears, falcons, washington, miami, colts, and too a lesser extent jags , ten and sf look at the starting qbs for all of those teams and you could make an argument for baker over them imo, im not saying hes better then them all but im just saying hes forsure in that pack and if he can bounce back i wouldnt be suprised too see him do very well, look at goff his first year under mcvay totally changed his career. Skip is overboard but alot of people think bakers trash and thats just not true

  • @2keeezy189
    @2keeezy189 Před 2 lety +44

    Skip is a clown on his take 😂

    • @JordanRA
      @JordanRA Před 2 lety +2

      This is by far the worst hill he has ever been willing to die on 😂. I don't understand how there's any argument here. The Browns wanted a guy with 22 civil law suits against him over Baker 🤦‍♂️

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 2 lety +38

    Shannon: "You can't overplay a royal flush"

    • @cjfrm3658
      @cjfrm3658 Před 2 lety +9

      Unc needs to do a standup he too funny

    • @SignalCorps1
      @SignalCorps1 Před 2 lety +1

      That was a brilliant saying. I hadn’t heard that before.

    • @williambreeze2659
      @williambreeze2659 Před 2 lety +1

      That's real talk 👍

  • @joelgriffith1654
    @joelgriffith1654 Před 2 lety +48

    The amount of times I've seen Shannon catch Skip lying its crazy smh.

    • @ColdSoDuh
      @ColdSoDuh Před měsícem

      It’s def crazy how this clown is trying to lie about nfl contracts in front of a former nfl player 😂😂😂

  • @the716ith
    @the716ith Před 2 lety +43

    I just want someone to believe in me like Skip believes in Baker… Because he makes all the excuses for that overrated bum

  • @King_JappyJoe
    @King_JappyJoe Před 2 lety +170

    Baker is Manziel 2.0 without the off field problems

    • @Jaygroova
      @Jaygroova Před 2 lety +17

      No he's mark Sanchez

    • @martymcflyyy3157
      @martymcflyyy3157 Před 2 lety +9

      Dang...Not Manziel 2
      0😆

    • @paradisearcher9334
      @paradisearcher9334 Před 2 lety +10

      I wouldn't call him manziel, Baker at least lasted more than a season

    • @julianmartlnez
      @julianmartlnez Před 2 lety +12

      He does have off field issues look at his arrests

    • @diegoolivarez1
      @diegoolivarez1 Před 2 lety +21

      Manziel had a record of 3-11 as a starter. Anybody that says Mayfield and Manziel are on the same level thinks with emotion instead of reason.

  • @zephrosyne
    @zephrosyne Před 2 lety +31

    Wait a minute: Skip doesn't care about "what you've done or not done" but every chance he gets, he mentions Mayfield's 11-game run from a couple of years ago. Dude is all over the place.

  • @NoLifeQ
    @NoLifeQ Před 2 lety +89

    Just like Baker needs to update his resume, Skip needs to do the same🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @tylerasweet
      @tylerasweet Před 2 lety +5

      “40 big time throws””last 11 games of 2020”

    • @justingreene3718
      @justingreene3718 Před 2 lety

      He never has any new arguments about Baker and always makes it about Deshawn Watson.

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 2 lety +91

    He didn't "light it up" in Pittsburgh, Steelers turned ball over 5 times. Baker had decent stats with 3tds but one was a screen to Clubb he took to the house. I think browns def scored too.

    • @HanginAndBanginBrother
      @HanginAndBanginBrother Před 2 lety +16

      Yea. Steelers handed them the game in the first quarter. 28-0 after they turned it over 3 times i believe all in their own territory

    • @jameshollister8294
      @jameshollister8294 Před 2 lety +3

      But he was the qb that helped him win

    • @Swiggg
      @Swiggg Před 2 lety +1

      Chubber Lane

    • @zachkim4
      @zachkim4 Před 2 lety +9

      @@jameshollister8294 the browns would’ve won with you at qb that day

    • @JayInHisPrime
      @JayInHisPrime Před 2 lety +1

      @@zachkim4 facts

  • @salemanesaapelu6161
    @salemanesaapelu6161 Před 2 lety +13

    Skip is gona take that eleven games to the grave with him 🤣🤣🤣

  • @StxnnaJay
    @StxnnaJay Před 2 lety +76

    When a Baker video comes out you know it’s gonna be a good day.

    • @Vessikilla
      @Vessikilla Před 2 lety +6

      I disagree, when a baker video comes out I'm like oh great same conversation I've heard 5 times a day for weeks

    • @slimhardaway8
      @slimhardaway8 Před 2 lety +5

      L profile picture bandwagoner -Salty Texan fan just let me vent man 😒

    • @eugenebelcher3
      @eugenebelcher3 Před 2 lety

      @@Vessikilla don't watch, please don't watch

    • @Vessikilla
      @Vessikilla Před 2 lety

      @@eugenebelcher3 I watched like 4 minutes. Is that alright with you???

    • @MS-pd7fc
      @MS-pd7fc Před 2 lety

      Not for skip though

  • @Ims18
    @Ims18 Před 2 lety +19

    I love how Skip just glosses over the fact that Josh Allen was in Bakers draft class. Baker is just an average QB yet Skip defends him just because he has praised and hyped him ever since he came into the league

    • @JordanRA
      @JordanRA Před 2 lety +2

      Too prideful I guess. Just admit he's average and move on Skip, this isn't a hill worth dying on lol. Josh Allen is so incredibly better than Baker too. At least Shannon brought it up, but Skip just kinda passed it off 😂

    • @DiedricksPS
      @DiedricksPS Před 2 lety +3

      Nah he dodged that better than a boxer. He mentioned Lamar getting drafted. Then Shannon says Allen and Skip says “Im talking about the QBs that went after Baker”…….WHAT! Allen did go after Baker 😂😂😂 Skip is a TERRIBLE debater, the funny thing is legitimately thinks he wins EVERY debate. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @SignalCorps1
      @SignalCorps1 Před 2 lety

      He hyped him before he was in the league as he does all OU players.

  • @williamjohnson5997
    @williamjohnson5997 Před 2 lety +70

    Baker is a classic example of a player thinking he’s better than what he actually is. If you have that mindset in professional sports you best have the talent to back it up or your career can be drastically changed

    • @imtryingringo761
      @imtryingringo761 Před 2 lety +4

      Exactly!

    • @Bagged_Hemi
      @Bagged_Hemi Před 2 lety +6

      He believes that bc yall gassed him up in college, pre & post draft, first 11 games 🥱! Like Shannon said 2 YEARS AGO just accept Baker is average!

    • @uesikon
      @uesikon Před 2 lety +3

      he played his hand well. he wanted out and now he’s out. baker can start over and earn his way again.

    • @HermannTheGreat
      @HermannTheGreat Před 2 lety

      Right place and right time, just enough talent and charisma to get there, but at the highest level he's average at best.

    • @calvinhancock9748
      @calvinhancock9748 Před 2 lety

      Thank You!!!! These people in Cleveland got cotton in their ears! And they need glasses to see.

  • @pasqualekelay6183
    @pasqualekelay6183 Před 2 lety +81

    “I don’t care how many you’ve won or haven’t won” but then goes on to say but “what I do care about is how many times you haven’t delivered in the playoffs”🤣🤣 skip is sum else man

  • @paradisearcher9334
    @paradisearcher9334 Před 2 lety +66

    Uhhh 11 games, Odell centric, big time throws in his rookie season, beating an overrated Steelers teams... Did I miss something?

    • @23Niggalips
      @23Niggalips Před 2 lety +15

      Knock on wood for Odell

    • @Raider_Robert
      @Raider_Robert Před 2 lety +16

      U missed his big time throws that pff rated lmao 🤣

    • @thebigdog4612
      @thebigdog4612 Před 2 lety +15

      You forgot the “ you know it & I know it” 😂😂😂😂🤣

    • @flashpeaseant5382
      @flashpeaseant5382 Před 2 lety +3

      Lol Pff Ranked Him The 4th best quarterback throughout that stretch 😂😂😂

    • @motube4879
      @motube4879 Před 2 lety +1

      whatever you missed, he will repeat tomorrow

  • @UncleRuckusss
    @UncleRuckusss Před 2 lety +19

    I'm glad Shannon brought up the fact that 2 Grand Jury's found no evidence. Everyone else sounds disappointed that he isn't guilty

    • @jamesduncan1308
      @jamesduncan1308 Před 2 lety

      Very True…The system is being put to use and adequately I might say to the seemingly dislike of many folks! Definitely the owner of the Texans and his next neighbor who happens to be the one bringing these charges against Deshawn Watson! Any chance of some kind of cahoot going on with members of the Old Fashion Good Ole Boys Club again right before our eyes?

  • @swizzmbaye
    @swizzmbaye Před 2 lety +15

    It was the combination of Joe Burrow and OBJ's success that were the final straw for Baker with the Browns. Management saw that and internally said he's not the guy. In the NFL, you cannot draw too much negativity towards yourself and then don't ball. Injury or not; you on the field. Baker is being publicly humbled and to a man; we all kind of go thru that in life but not in public settings.

    • @thetruthhasconsequences58
      @thetruthhasconsequences58 Před 2 lety +2

      Bingo!

    • @davidorwig1547
      @davidorwig1547 Před 2 lety

      The biggest mistake baker made was going all out for Cleveland he should have set out and got healed up like Joe burrow did !

    • @swizzmbaye
      @swizzmbaye Před 2 lety

      @@davidorwig1547 Joe Burrow had an ACL injury, which is unplayable for a mobile QB. Your comparison is not a good one. Baker is not that good of a QB; more trouble then he is worth.

    • @davidorwig1547
      @davidorwig1547 Před 2 lety

      @@swizzmbaye so he is so good he will make it back to the superbowl next year huh ,well we will see what NFL defenses have to say about that won't we anytime qb has a great season they come after him we will see if they take him out again, even the great Tom Brady got his knee ruined for a season!!!

  • @loganh1371
    @loganh1371 Před 2 lety +5

    MARY KAY IS NOT THE ULTIMATE SOURCE. Browns fans have been trying to get rid of her for years because her information is wrong and often so biased

  • @DiedricksPS
    @DiedricksPS Před 2 lety +10

    Skip stays contradicting himself. He is blatantly scared that Mayfield might be a bust. He went from “Baker will change life/he is a franchise QB” to “I just said he was better than Sam Darnold”. 😂😂😂

    • @alexisandrose5435
      @alexisandrose5435 Před 2 lety +2

      Lol n don’t forget him repeating “He’s better than Josh Allen” all through the season lmao

    • @DiedricksPS
      @DiedricksPS Před 2 lety

      @@alexisandrose5435 i totally forgot that 😂😂

  • @mr.p3806
    @mr.p3806 Před 2 lety +2

    Shannon: What about the other 51 games?"
    Skip: "He made 40 big throws his rookie year"

  • @jayrea2five
    @jayrea2five Před 2 lety +3

    I am so tired of hearing about these 11 games 🤣🤣 Come on Skip do better.

  • @QuDotG34
    @QuDotG34 Před 2 lety +2

    Skip: over the 11 game stretch he went 8-3 and blah blah blah.
    Shannon: BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 51 GAMES!?
    😂🤣😂

  • @rockyrauterkus392
    @rockyrauterkus392 Před 2 lety +5

    if i have to hear skip mention baker’s outlier of a rookie year one more time without shannon pushing back…

  • @davidjohnson6465
    @davidjohnson6465 Před 2 lety +4

    At this point its go be baker for 4 pair of wide receiver gloves 2 gatorade bottles and a assistant punter coach🤣🤣

  • @FelipeMartinsFerreira
    @FelipeMartinsFerreira Před 2 lety +15

    When Skip's keeping bringing that Shannon chose Sam Darnold over Baker, we know he lost arguments

  • @justt7767
    @justt7767 Před 2 lety +14

    “I don’t care what you’ve done, or not done. I just know Aaron Rodgers hasn’t…” How does Shannon not call him out for literally contradicting himself from one sentence to the next. It wasn’t a slip of the tongue.

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 2 lety +21

    Skip at the start: "We are early in the game, free agency Just Started!!"
    Skip at the end: "We are late in the game"

  • @philbruin
    @philbruin Před 2 lety +22

    Skip's doesn't seem to realize that his opinion, and who he "wants" simply doesn't matter and is irrelevant to any discussion. He also seems to not understand that teams do not pursue upgrades at all positions all the time - no , they pursue upgrades when they are NOT happy with a position. The Browns were not happy with Mayfield PERIOD !!!!

    • @JordanRA
      @JordanRA Před 2 lety +1

      They were willing to go all in on a guy with 22 civil lawsuits against him, what does that say about Baker 😬💀

  • @brianchua4240
    @brianchua4240 Před 2 lety +6

    Leave it to Skip Bayless to disrespect the great Joe Thomas.

    • @mictza450
      @mictza450 Před 2 lety

      Skippy will say ANYTHING to prop up Baker Mayfield

  • @kidhalloween8570
    @kidhalloween8570 Před 2 lety +4

    If skip was a lawyer, he’d lose every case

  • @freeman4real
    @freeman4real Před 2 lety +1

    It got me at 18:00 when Shannon talks about the fur coat & the host she couldnt help but laugh & it was that laugh that "got" me!!!

  • @flyguy10395
    @flyguy10395 Před 2 lety +6

    When he got hurt he should have shut down but he played through it I think that's what hurt him more than anything

  • @stevencolson9793
    @stevencolson9793 Před 2 lety +6

    Anyone else get the Undisputed Bingo?
    - Baker's rookie season
    - Baker's 11 game stretch
    - (free space)
    - Odell problem
    - Aaron Rodgers

  • @NorkaKnight
    @NorkaKnight Před 2 lety +8

    During that 8-3 run, IIRC the Browns won 2 games against teams with winning record, went 3-3 overall that season against winning teams. Career wise he's 7-19 against teams that ended with winning records.

  • @kalillbostick3716
    @kalillbostick3716 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm starting to be concerned about Skip because he really can't be serious..... Is he????

  • @georgereeves5894
    @georgereeves5894 Před 2 lety +2

    Skip always says the same thing😂😂😂🤣 over n over for every discussion

  • @c.hobson6608
    @c.hobson6608 Před 2 lety +6

    Skip really think people care about 11 games that much?

    • @christophersanchez3511
      @christophersanchez3511 Před 2 lety

      I mean it’s not just the 11 games he had a great rookie year and broke the rookie touchdown record (at the time) and he started week 3 or 4. Not saying baker is GREAT but he’s definitely not BAD. Having a new offensive coordinater and head coach every year doesn’t help either

    • @c.hobson6608
      @c.hobson6608 Před 2 lety +1

      @@christophersanchez3511 lmao okay skip bayless, I see you out here on another alt burner

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 2 lety +6

    After Baker couldn't beat the chiefs with a backup QB in the playoffs the browns knew he wasn't the answer

    • @JayGotJuice216
      @JayGotJuice216 Před 2 lety

      Defense was just as responsible for that loss

    • @ltayoneal1
      @ltayoneal1 Před 2 lety

      @@JayGotJuice216 Stop!

    • @JayGotJuice216
      @JayGotJuice216 Před 2 lety

      @@ltayoneal1 oh I’m not a Baker fan at all. I’m just spittin facts bro.

    • @santiagobuenos9673
      @santiagobuenos9673 Před 2 lety

      @@JayGotJuice216 Eh after the first two drives the defense played well
      Offense couldn't do anything the entire game though, against a defense that the Bucs torched

  • @Vondad2004
    @Vondad2004 Před 2 lety +14

    I’m a Browns fan, and in all honesty, that Vikings game, the Ravens game when the defense got 4 INTS, the Packers game and watching the playoff games this past season (especially the wildcard and divisional rounds) showed and proved that even with a healthy Baker, they wouldn’t be able to win in the postseason, let alone the SuperBowl. But the NFL is a business, and teams are always looking to upgrade several positions every year. And the Browns got a ultra rare opportunity to grab and finally solidified the QB position (and yes I know, they passed up on numerous QB’s that turned out very good or HOF lvl).

    • @drewcraig4167
      @drewcraig4167 Před 2 lety +1

      Here's the thing watson is not going to be the quarterback he used to be, you all are going to regret this move, and I'm laughing at yall, because I'm a bills fan

    • @clintholt563
      @clintholt563 Před 2 lety

      @@drewcraig4167 lol wow under what ideology does one believe Watson’s on field play is gonna drop from what his whole career has shown?? Come on man 😂

    • @drewcraig4167
      @drewcraig4167 Před 2 lety

      @@clintholt563 yeah but, he's still a young player developing, he's not a veteran, he's been through a lot mentally, physical attributes will be ok, but I promise you, you're going to see a bunch of inaccurate throws, he's going to be like a Lamar Jackson type, who runs first throws second

    • @clintholt563
      @clintholt563 Před 2 lety

      @@drewcraig4167 he had 3 straight probowl seasons prior to missing last year. His career qbr is 104.7 only behind Aaron Rodgers. He’s established

    • @clintholt563
      @clintholt563 Před 2 lety

      @@drewcraig4167 he’s never been a Lamar Jackson type lol dude is extremely accurate his last season he played he led the league in completion percentage at 70 percent and it wasn’t all short passes either as he threw for 8.5 yards per attempt

  • @grabbingrain2238
    @grabbingrain2238 Před 2 lety +5

    My little sister could of won that game in Pittsburgh after how terrible they started it’s like they wanted to see how hard they could make it on themselves and went all in

  • @tjayd1225
    @tjayd1225 Před 2 lety +13

    He didn’t overplay his hand.. the team paid 230 million for a better QB. There wasnt a way baker could’ve played this that would’ve been “correct”

  • @Veets-VA3VMD
    @Veets-VA3VMD Před 2 lety +6

    I guess the Browns didn’t want to roll the dice on a quarterback coming off shoulder surgery amongst other ailments. I never understood why he kept going out there or why management didn’t hold him out with all the injuries….(if they truly thought of him as a franchise QB)? He was horrible in most of the games and the one game he sat out they won without him. It would have been interesting to see him have a healthy season to see if he would have continued his success.

  • @ericksolis7820
    @ericksolis7820 Před 2 lety +3

    Full guarantees when it comes to salary is extremely risky man.

  • @Dr.Think4Yourself
    @Dr.Think4Yourself Před 2 lety +10

    Josh Allen is 10x better than Baker in Talent AND STATS!!! Why does skip ignore that every time talking about the draft...

    • @magdabrownis265
      @magdabrownis265 Před 2 lety

      Better but I think 10x is a little delusional

    • @Dr.Think4Yourself
      @Dr.Think4Yourself Před 2 lety

      @@magdabrownis265 have you seen their career stats? And Josh Allen has greatly improved his accuracy while being faster, bigger with a stronger Arm than Baker. That's close to 10x. Sad that the Browns wanted Watson

  • @TruckingWithShomoney
    @TruckingWithShomoney Před 2 lety +11

    “Odell problem” OBJ was injured for the majority of his tenure in Cleveland

  • @teeshalaurence6020
    @teeshalaurence6020 Před 2 lety +2

    You can't overplay a royal flush 💯

  • @timharsch5896
    @timharsch5896 Před 2 lety +1

    And kudos to the Browns for not wasting all these amazing players careers waiting around for Baker to get it together

  • @yusefkabib2073
    @yusefkabib2073 Před 2 lety +3

    Skips used Odell narratives to try and hype Baker. And now he’s using Watson to try and ease Baker. Skip will use anything to support his argument in an attempt to win.

  • @Slay_Vendetta
    @Slay_Vendetta Před 2 lety +3

    Shay shay: You can’t overplay a royal flush! Shannon will always be undefeated !

  • @mbp7060
    @mbp7060 Před 2 lety +3

    Baker overplayed his hand thinking he had enough popularity to disregard the fans. A scary thought is if my Panthers get Baker when we could've got Watson.

  • @jerrenb...
    @jerrenb... Před 2 lety +4

    So was Hue Jackson completely the problem?

    • @ltayoneal1
      @ltayoneal1 Před 2 lety

      Cleveland tried to make him out to be. They allowed Baker to stare and make gestures towards him. They created and were enablers if his behavior.

    • @jerrenb...
      @jerrenb... Před 2 lety

      @@ltayoneal1 this should have motivated baker to fight for his job there are to many what ifs I wish deshaun the best but baker may not have had to even worry about him and in retrospect I bet he wishes he rode the bench instead of trying to play through the injury

    • @santiagobuenos9673
      @santiagobuenos9673 Před 2 lety

      Hue Jackson was awful, two separate things man

    • @jerrenb...
      @jerrenb... Před 2 lety

      @@santiagobuenos9673 he wasn't for the Bengals

  • @videoorgy
    @videoorgy Před 2 lety +1

    lol. 11 games and 40 big time throws. Skip is dying on that hill.

  • @xdarkgodgaming6520
    @xdarkgodgaming6520 Před 2 lety +4

    THANK YOU SHANNON! You're the only sports host who phrase the cases against DW that way!

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 2 lety +2

    Skip in his rant about how he was right about OB's not being "the man" that shannon liked, he forgot to mention how he also predicted that Patrick Mahomes could turn out to be the best QB in his draft class.

  • @easysinmusic216
    @easysinmusic216 Před 2 lety +9

    Skip ... CONTENT and EXCITEMENT are two different things. Being CONTENT on Baker Mayfield being there and being EXCITED that Deshaun is coming are vastly different.

  • @Samsonjukeria
    @Samsonjukeria Před 2 lety +2

    Baker still thinking him drafted 1st pick means he can’t be under valued… smh 🤦🏿‍♂️!

  • @TexHomaHeat
    @TexHomaHeat Před 2 lety +2

    This is a perfect example of the "talking heads" carrying water for the NFL teams, not the players who play!

  • @AceSolomon94
    @AceSolomon94 Před 2 lety +1

    Shannon's not wrong in Baker performing poorly last season, but neither is Skip on Baker's injury hindering his playmaker ability. I had no doubt prior to Baker getting injured that he was gonna take the next step at the beginning of the 2021 season.
    It's a damn shame this is how it's gonna end for him in Cleveland. This is the type of guy that deserves a parade for what he's done for a city, unlike Stafford in Detroit (who BTW STILL has Lions fans support *despite* quitting on the team 🤦🏾‍♂️)

  • @jimrobinson684
    @jimrobinson684 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm a browns fan .and I liked baker ...but skip keeps recycling the same facts🤣🤣

  • @jerryw2460
    @jerryw2460 Před 11 měsíci

    I’ve only heard the use of the Big Time Throws by Skip. Nobody else ever uses that

  • @andrewbreeding4972
    @andrewbreeding4972 Před 2 lety +2

    I’ve never seen skip stick by someone like this other than Tebow; of course Tom but atleast Tom earned it. He just can’t except that Baker isn’t good; people don’t realize how stacked Cleveland’s roster really was the last 3 years. With a top 10’qb they could have been a contender

  • @AceSolomon94
    @AceSolomon94 Před 2 lety +2

    7:27 I saw Lamar coming & *I SAW* an opportunity for Dave Gettleman to trade *BACK INTO* the 1st round to get him via New England.
    It's a shame he saved that move for a cornerback the following draft. SMH.
    Could've had Saquon AND Lamar. 💯

  • @MaarSRT
    @MaarSRT Před 2 lety +12

    I’ve never seen a show talk about a free agent as much as they talk about Baker Mayfield. Literally everyday they find some way to talk about him. Skip Bayless is also just delusional & have a man crush on Baker😂😂😂

    • @bo0gi3
      @bo0gi3 Před 2 lety

      bc of Skip

    • @roybledsoe24
      @roybledsoe24 Před 2 lety +1

      You know it’s because of skip. Shannon stated his belief on him

  • @gregorylibra5114
    @gregorylibra5114 Před 2 lety +1

    Refusing Mr. Haslam (owner) apology was the straw that broke the camels back.

  • @fredrickmeredith513
    @fredrickmeredith513 Před 2 lety

    Look at Shannon's face at about 6:01 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @troysmith6190
    @troysmith6190 Před 2 lety +1

    If brown are willing to deal with watson legal and pr issues instead of keeping baker it really makes you think because if baker played elite or even top 15 deshaun never comes into the conversation so it's his fault for not doing his work

  • @spewdice847
    @spewdice847 Před 2 lety

    is there a feature that lowers the volume automatically when shannon talks?

  • @imarriedabrkfsttaco3737

    Watched the HBO Hard Knocks the year Baker was a rookie and the Browns were ushering in a new era of competence!
    Yeah.

  • @KneeGrowNation00
    @KneeGrowNation00 Před 2 lety +1

    The Browns were the best team available and willing to offer him the most money. It was a no brainer for Watson.

    • @larrylindgren9484
      @larrylindgren9484 Před 2 lety

      I think if Payton is still coaching the Saints, Watson is there.

  • @bostonnate4024
    @bostonnate4024 Před 2 lety +4

    He chose the Browns because they have a good offensive line they have a great run game they have a good coach dead loyal fans and they paid him the most

  • @geckobrah4201
    @geckobrah4201 Před 2 lety +2

    I wish Baker the best, but GO BROWNS with Deshawn!

  • @energeez
    @energeez Před 2 lety +1

    as a browns fan i don’t want baker to start and i dont want to get rid of him. i feel like baker could really lock in if hes behind a tom brady.

  • @jimai808
    @jimai808 Před 2 lety +1

    Idk why skip kept trying to bring up that no team was willing to go all in for deshaun watson in this topic. If anything that hurts his argument that Baker is a quality qb. You don't go all-in for a qb if you already got a good qb.

  • @troythor37
    @troythor37 Před 2 lety

    WHOA!!! 😂😂😂 Shannon bro you’re hilarious

  • @cardiiiiii
    @cardiiiiii Před 2 lety +1

    Baker thought he was gonna be the Ochocinco of Cleveland lol

  • @aoc871
    @aoc871 Před 2 lety

    Did he say...Higgins? 🤦‍♂️

  • @birdac2002
    @birdac2002 Před 2 lety +1

    How did a guy who wanted an extension over play his hand? The Browns investigation went on for 5 months into Deshaun Watson. Baker only asked for a trade recently. Baker was played more than you know. Is Baker worth $30 million probably not. But the Browns were looking to trade Baker long before he asked for a trade.

  • @TheGoffTV
    @TheGoffTV Před 2 lety +1

    On the old madden Joe Thomas was my best lineman. Made sure the QB doesn't get touch

  • @tornado31658
    @tornado31658 Před 2 lety +1

    How is it that they're supposed to be talking about Baker Mayfield, yet Aaron Rodgers comes up? At this point, the beef with Aaron is petty and unnecessary.

  • @leonjohnson4113
    @leonjohnson4113 Před rokem +1

    Skip said and I quote I don’t care what you’ve done or haven’t done BUT I KNOW WHAT Aaron RODGERS hasn’t done 😂😂😂

  • @captinbeyond
    @captinbeyond Před 2 lety +1

    It says a lot about Baker's relationship with the Browns and any team for that matter, that they would rather have a tarnished QB like Watson with his baggage ----with chances of suspension for games by the NFL---than to stick with what they got now. Wow, pretty low opinion

  • @TylerJ_-ng3fk
    @TylerJ_-ng3fk Před rokem +1

    I've heard skip talk about those 11 games and the 40 throws his rookie year so damn much that when I'm 90 and maybe have dementia or alzhiemers all I'm gonna be consciencly muttering the only thing I have remembered out of the entirety of my whole life will be " when O'Dell got injured at my bengals stadium baker Mayfield went on a tear, and went 8-3 in a 11 game stretch and was ranked 4th among qbs in that stretch, and his rookie year! My God skip just stop bro he's at the back of the pack! I'm a die hard bengal fan and I'm telling ya I'd love to see that guy stay in Cleveland! The league knows he was know real threat

  • @jimlindsay9758
    @jimlindsay9758 Před 2 lety +1

    DEAR GOD WOULD SOMEONE AT UNDISPUTED STOP SHANNON FROM SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS.... IT DOESN'T BOLSTER YOUR ARGUMENT... BUT ALL CAPS DOES.

  • @GuySmithSmoke
    @GuySmithSmoke Před 2 lety +1

    Shannon: he's just a human
    Skip: he's God emperor

  • @Solostar9
    @Solostar9 Před 2 lety +1

    I don’t really think it’s his play that’s got him outta there….according to Mary Kay, the main voice and insider in Cleveland, Owner Jimmy Haslem and GM Andrew Berry are over his antics, his immaturity, and his aloofness. Now me personally, if I have to choose between Baker and Deshaun, I gotta keep Baker, only bc I can’t say I want an “adult”, but then go get a guy with Deshauns baggage. Makes no sense.

  • @bigplaytay1443
    @bigplaytay1443 Před 2 lety +6

    When Joe Thomas speaks we listen

  • @devinm524
    @devinm524 Před 2 lety +1

    Not defending any of the Quarterbacks they are talking about here, just find it interesting that Baker and Lamarr (last year) got so much negative attention for not winning a playoff game, meanwhile Carson Wentz the number #2 overall pick in 2016 only gets talked about when he's on a winning team

  • @Kanendd
    @Kanendd Před 2 lety +2

    I'm thinking that shoulder injury might be worse than expected if teams are not looking at baker.

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 Před 2 lety

      It's a standard injury, what could be worse? They just don't want him

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 2 lety +1

    It must hurt skip that nobody wants Baker until his contract goes down first

  • @PLAYATTHATSMESHOW
    @PLAYATTHATSMESHOW Před 2 lety

    Shannon “we’ll he publicly humiliated them with his play” Classic!!!

  • @deewilson2548
    @deewilson2548 Před 2 lety

    Man shannon got me over here weak🤣🤣