Everything to Know About Film School
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Thank you for watching! :) - Krátké a kreslené filmy
How is your day going?
eh
terrible, then you dropped a video
Very unproductive. Im wasting precious time while in quarantine
Pretty bad, I watched Happy Feet last night and now I feel sick.
Pretty good. Just saw Palm Springs.
“It depends” is the most common answer in the film industry.
in life in general
Because life isn’t black and white. Many factors play into every decision and its effects
nope take it from tarantino, rodriguez, smith , nolan, wes anderson
@@MegaKamandi yeah but like the video said, if you know what to do, and you have the resources go for it. but if you dont know anything u should go to film school but only that but do other things too
I don't know bout dat now
"go to film school and form your own opinion" he says, as if this is a movie review.
Film school is great if you want to be surrounded by movies and movie lovers rather than people discussing calculus
"That sounds like a you problem"
If you’re looking for some on the internet to tell you if you should it shouldn’t do something like this, you’re looking in the wrong place. You should be asking yourself that, gathering others thoughts and opinions along the way.
Christ, he’s a genuis😂😂
@@Melo_mp4 Watching this guy IS gathering other people's thoughts.
"I decided to go to Chicago" *Trina from Victorious shows up*
underrated moment.
🎶CHICAGO!!!🎶 CHICAGO!!!!!!!🎵🎶
@Los Angeles Lakers Uber Alles in this house we believe in the tutter supremacy
She-cago!
Don’t know why I remember that
CHICAGO
One of my favorite stories about film school was with Paul Thomas Anderson. He dropped out of film school after the teacher in his first lecture claimed that anyone who wants to make a film like Terminator 2: Judgement Day (1991) should leave immediately.
What a weird thing to say. Anyone who doesn't want to make an absolute classic like that which also made $500 million in box office is lying to themselves.
but also pta was very privileged in the film industry as his dad worked in the entertainment business in los angeles, plus he grew up in studio city
@@cloeschlotterbeck5829 Yeah I think he wormed his way up with connections and shiz.
cloe he’s still damn good at it tho
@@ryaaaaaaaan7115 Pretty sure Lars von Trier, David Lynch and Nicolas Winding Refn couldnt be arsed. But it's still a stupid thing to say.
As a Film Production major at a small university entering my senior year, the biggest thing is access. I have access to people and equipment and access to a mentor that I wouldn't have otherwise. Also, the freedom to fail in a controlled environment where the risk is lower.
This this this!!! I’m in Film Production too in a uni at the UK. It’s not just about learning the trade but practicing too, making contacts and connections, even getting odd jobs here and there to build up your portfolio
I second this as a student in the UK, there's no way that I'd be able to use the equipment that I use every day without access to them from the uni. It's also about the people that you meet along the way professors, industry workers, peers and mentors that you can learn off that I would never have met without going to film school.
yes omg having the safety blanket of working with other people or like just bombing one assignment and then learning how to get it right rather than wasting your own assets on a project that you were relying on !!!!
Same over here!
Totally agree! Resources, opportunity, and connections are the biggest! Plus people for some reason always seem down to work with you or help you out when you say you’re in college 🙈
I want to go to film school but I'm afraid I'll suck at everything and then my dreams will be crushed. Also my parents won't let me go.
1. you can't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game...admitting defeat before you've begun is an "illness" u can cure!
2. yeah that's tough maybe show them this video? im not even a film major rn and not even considering it but i thought was a great pitch for film school
Practice and ingrain yourself in the art/film scene in your city, if you practice you may end up feeling confident enough to join or to not need film school.
Save money and look into loans for if you do decide to go to film school (you don't need to go to a crazy school to get a decent education in film, as the degree doesn't mean anything ultimately). If you decide not to, you have money to invest in what you want and your parents can't decide for you either way.
If you join film school and end up sucking and not wanting to continue you'll have two options, drop out and lose 1 semester of money (not ideal but it won't ruin you), or stick to your guns and develop yourself so you can build up confidence. Everyone begins as an amateur and your first attempts will rarely ever be good.
And hey, if you join a film school and realize film isn't your thing or you don't think you have what it takes, at least you'll know, instead of regretting never giving it a chance... although film school isn't necessary to give it a chance, there are many other ways to get involved in film and see if it's right for you, whether you want to edit, write, direct, be a DoP, gaffer, grip, producer, actor, PA, AD, etc.
Sorry for the novel.
i feel the same about my parents since they generally scoff at creative work and pretty much have no clue what art is/ can be.
wait so do u go right after high school or after college?
The point of film school is to learn, is it not? You will learn how to be a better filmmaker through it, and even if you don’t you might learn about a different passion you might have. And everyone sucks. People think that making a movie is based on talent more than anything. But really, I think it’s mainly patience. Do you know those ads that say “Look at your new film mentor” or whatever. It’s for a website where professional filmmakers teach their own classes for people that pay for the service. Martin Scorsese did one, and he made a comment in the advertisement that “you always make the first cut of the scene, and you think you won’t be disgusted, but you always are”. I’m paraphrasing. But it’s true. No cut of a film is good on its first day. And making a movie isn’t about having a good idea, but having the patience to turn your ideas into interesting ones.
I've been thinking for a while about whether I should go to film school or not so this is pretty helpful
Nice to see you here
holy shit hey Pinely
If you are a complete begginer and you love films, go for it. But you must have absolute passion
wait so do u go right after high school or after college?
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 after highschool
If you are reading this: you can win an Oscar someday! (Or the Palme d’Or, whatever butters your biscuits.)
The Film Teen best original screenplay in the 2033 Oscar’s 🤫
@@theboybandana6372 "And the Oscar for Best Director goes to ... *paper rustling* THE BOY BANDANA!" *standing ovation
The Film Teen whoops, just realized I wasn’t in my regular account lmao. You see, I would say my first film would win which would be around 2027/8 but gotta be realistic. Plus the 2033 one I’ll probably be more confident to direct as well as write
Or a 420 award
I’d be more honoured to win a 420 award tbh
Hi, I'm the lynch guy and everyone hates me
The one Marvel guy is WAY worse, trust me.
@@Lorisv agreed
IM a Nolan guy
Keep your head up king ily
I like David lynch too. I'm caught between A24 guy and lynch guy
I’m not funny
or: it depends
or don’t but do
'Do if this but don't if that'
Yes but no
he sounded like boris johnson in his lockdown message to the uk: go to work but don’t go to work
This video gives me anxiety.
Urgh!! I thought I was the only one 😩
Don't feel stressed, just do what you feel you need to do to pursue your passion. Passion alone is enough to get you into the industry.
Same, but that's probably because I did go to film school, and had to stop because of anxiety
Same I’m scared now
@@Brandon-sd7yf My man
I think that the main issue with film school is the fact that many people don't have the money to form their own opinion about it, it's a situation of not knowing if the debt is worth it or not, which is why the question is so frequently asked, they can't enter just to see how they feel about it, which sucks completely.
this right here, yes
Bingo. Exactly me. I'm paying for college -not my parents or some trust fund.
i rlly want to do film, and as a highschooler i dont rlly have the resources for that rn unless you could count the theatre department at my hs, which is the closest thing to film but not what im going for. the safe route for me is just to go through the medical field route and do film as an extra course perhaps but idk if that'll lead me on the same route as doing film as a major yk
@@nehamathew that’s what I thought, but both careers require serious dedication
@@patiencewallace8453 true, but medical field careers are always available. and with film careers theres WAY more competition and being mediocre or even 'good' will not make the cut in this industry. my biggest fear is majoring in film and paying thousands of dollars for these programs just to be repeatedly turned away and ending up in debt because of having to resort to a low paying job that doesn't require a degree. honestly majoring in the arts in general is a big gamble because it's either you end up making it big in hollywood or having to spend the rest of your life just....unsettled. anddd im not sure if i wanna take the chances but yes :/
Me, a mechanical engineering student: yes, this will be useful to know
Same, mechanical and mechatronic student.
Me, a medical student: very important information
Same, mechanical engineer, actually thinking about getting into a two year program in film making
@@capuyisus where are you looking? I just graduated as a mech e and I’m thinking the same thing lol
Same, computer science student.
I don't know what to do with my life. I want to go to film school but I don't have any impressive talent. I just love films and everything about them.
Hey Man, if you’re passionate about it and have no talent (which is probably not true) go for it. As he said in the video, you’ll learn a lot and get a lot of connections. Soon enough you’ll be the top dog. You can do it.
@@blairens Thanks mate..I'll surely consider it
U could always try to become a film producer. That’s like the business side of Film!
@@rosar.8624 could u explain more about what a film producer does??? I'm curious!!!
Emily Mingolelli ofcourse. A film producer hires and manages the team (writers, directors, managers, actors etc). He sets a budget and secures the funds for the project. Usually through investors, personal funds or a studio. He schedules the shooting, and once the film is finished he works on marketing the project!
“Should I go to film school?”
Karsten: Well yes, but actually no
also karsten: well no, but actually yes
Video thumbnail: Do you have to go to film school?
Spike Lee’s very first sentence in ad before video: “In no way, shape or form do you have to go to film school to be a film maker.”
Raul Ruiz de Velasco It’s funny because he’s a professor at NYU. I used to see him sometimes in the elevator when I went there.
@@MattSezer Did you ever choke up the courage to speak to him, beyond the stately “hello” you’d greet any professor with?
Spielberg didn't actually go to USC, he went to some no name local college to study english for 1 semester before he gave up and just went to make his short film Amblin which then got him into the industry. USC just has buildings named after Spielberg
He went to CSU Long Beach.
@@0807jacob industry respects production credits not diplomas.
i go to that "no name" college which is csulb. i also was kicked out of film school at csulb for low gpa, as did spielberg, hence why he began studying english instead. just comes to show that film school is kinda pointless imo.
CSULB spotted greatness where USC didn't
Karsten covered a lot of the most important parts, I'll add some of my experience. I am going to NYU in the fall for undergrad film production and I also took an online class at UCLA and did two summer programs with USC School of Cinematic Arts. Here was what I found. BTW, feel free to ask any questions if I or Karsten didn't cover something you wanna know.
First, what Karsten says about you learning the basics is true to an extent, I knew the basics when I went into film courses at first but still learned new things: bigger schools, like NYU or USC, will give you an insight in how industry professionals do their jobs. Some of this stuff (like basic set etiquette and pitching tips) you can find online, but more subtle things (like how to prepare a treatment, how to do proper casting, how to organize a call sheet) will be harder to find unless you're willing on learning a less professional version. For most positions of film, this industry-level-training is enough.You need to know how to network, how to do your work, how to know what's a good opportunity, you know the basic stuff.
For a few jobs, this is not nearly enough. Directing, DoP, writing, and even producing are examples of jobs I'd say this isn't enough. That isn't to say that the schools don't teach you how to do those jobs, they do, but those jobs are so experience-based it's difficult to master it from pure education. So here is what schools do for people who want to do those jobs: you can work on a crap ton of films. You can do this in two ways, one, required filmmaking in class. I did this my first year at USC's summer program and NYU seems to be the same. The second way is to work on a crap ton of films on your own merit, for example, in the 2nd summer my class only made me do one film so in order to get some experience I want, I worked on around 12 projects in various crew positions of my classmates and connections I made. I used those connections for help on my own films after and stay in touch with all those people.
How does the university help you do this? Good question. You can do it yourself without the school, but the university will basically hold your hand and make it far easier and far less stressful to do it. You don't feel like you're trying to "break in" but just working with friends. It is very much a safe space to grow your skills.
The university will probably give you enough connections for you to find a job after spending 4 years with them, if that's what you want. It won't make you an oscar-award-winning director or anything like that but it will 100% help you find the path to a larger goal like that
I’m applying for NYU this fall, you have any tips that might put me ahead of other applicants ?
Hey thankyou very much, i just wanted to ask something regarding connections, ummm... How do you ask them to let you work for them, do you just call em and just tell them that you wanna work or do they ask you and in larger productions as well, do you just ask people you made connections with say in a film festival, do you just dm them and ask them,
Ps
Sorry if its a dumbass question, just wanted to know
@@shikharsrivastava1759 I think this is a great question, and I'd like to hear people's thoughts as well. It's definitely tough making new connections, especially when you're the one reaching out and if you are asking for their help. I'm not the best person to answer since I'm starting going to film school in the fall but my best advice is reach out in a message, email is best, but if not then a different platform works, and tell them who you are and ask if they have some time they could talk by phone. Go into the phone conversation organized. Do a bit of background research on the person, know who they are and what they do/might work on/what their company is. Describe your project and who you are/what you're working on. Have a goal in mind for what you want to achieve with the convo, whether it is asking for advice, getting their help on set, volunteering to work with them/help them out with something, or something else. If you get to that point, hopefully they can either be of help to you, or can point you to/recommend someone else to you, but either way you have now made the connection and are in their mind, so they may think of you when the next time comes. Make sure to follow up with them afterwards to let them know you enjoyed talking, etc. You can even reach out to them again in the future to keep the connection alive and update them on how that project went, ask what their working on our whatnot. Sorry for the long response but hope this helps
@@isaacsalem3459 That was amazing, thank you very much.
@@basrf6353 I got off waitlist so don't know if I'm a great source of information. Recs help (if you got em), ECs help, I'd try to demonstrate some sort of continued interest in film during the pandemic shutdown you can write about. Make sure, I can't stress this enough, to take challenging courses and get excellent grades in your senior year fall. A lot of other NYU admits I talked to had so so grades in previous years but got in because their recent semesters showed a trend of rising grades. You'll probably have to do a NYU yourselfie, I had to do it. This is a two minute vlog basically about something not covered in your application. I didn't do any fancy editing, so I think the more important thing is to be creative, not just showing your day to day life but your personality. There are tons of videos on advise on the why NYU essays and similar essays, check them out. I think the biggest thing I can tell you is to be yourself but find ways to stand out. I realize now my biggest mistakes were focusing on the craft in a lot of my essays instead of focusing on the true authentic me so try to focus on that. Oh, and peer review your essays and film submission like crazy.
I’m trying to stop my inner film student from yelling at you that Spielberg didn’t go to USC
he went to CSULB and was rejected from USC so his mistake is pretty ironic
Lets just assume Karsten meant to say George Lucas lol
@@user-sj1ni7zr1z Or Robert Zemekis.
I knew something was wrong,but yeah Lucas a star at USC.
I'll leave this comment here in cases anyone needs it:
I was lucky enough to find myself in a free 2 year film class in my time in high school, and while it didn't have the full funding or pricier gear a college class would have I would say it was still pretty informative and an amazing experience.
Now It's been a little over a year since I finished that class and I have no fucking clue what I'm doing. I found myself not having enough money to spend on even more moderately priced schools, which was a small bummer at first, then I decided that I would at least give myself a year to try to start a videography business and make films of my own.
Fast forward to early 2020, and after about 6 months of working part-time and trying to get momentum on personal projects, well you know what happens once March hits. Suffice to say all projects that were just barely gaining that momentum are completely halted, I am back where I started a year ago with nothing to show for.
I actually don't know where I was going, I just felt the urge to type all of this. What I can say I've noticed is (I know this sounds cheesy) that everything takes ALOT of time to come to fruition, and that sometimes you will try to push as hard as you can and then nothing, a complete fucking gut punch. But if you're reading this, do not stop if you're truly passionate about this. If filmmaking or writing or anything keeps you up at night, and the thought of never being able to do it again makes you have a deep existential panic, don't stop. However slow you have to go is fine, it's 2020 you're allowed to go a little slower, just don't stop.
-Isaiah
I’m curious, how are you feeling now about film/videography?
@@mikar3y Pretty decent, I've actually started filming again and have a photoshoot in a couple of days for the first time in like 5 months.
The idea of not following filming is still foreign to me, and even though it's really slow, whatever path you're on just keep going.
Act 3 yess I love the motivation! I was thinking of pursuing film and my mind won’t let me stop thinking about it. I definitely think that this path is the right one for me!
Totally feel this, man. I have done a lot but I think I'm not going anywhere in life...
@@helenathesoviet9195 yeah. Shit kinda sucks right now. Keep moving man, even if just a little bit.
Kars! I really needed this, as someone who’s dream is to pursue film - this really gave a some good grounding
I am being humble when I am telling you that I am the most powerful strongest coolest smartest most famous greatest funniest CZcamsr of all time! That's the reason I have multiple girlfriends and I show them off on my channel all the time! Bye bye sonia
felt this
I love this but covid is making everything a nightmare college wise
you got that right... :(
Taking community college classes online is a great and more affordable option! Just make sure your credits will transfer
At least i got one normal year in.
Marcus Atius Virilis I got two in myself.
Marcus Atius Virilis same.
As someone in film school, I love all the connections I’ve made in it. It’s awesome to be in the same building as other people who are passionate about Cinema and to be mentored by professors who have experience in the industry. You also get access to SO MUCH EQUIPMENT. I think the biggest thing that’s great about film school though is that it’s a place where you are encouraged to make things and not worry too much about making mistakes or failing miserably. If you only go to take classes and that’s it then you missed the point. Yes, the classes are informative, but I think I’ve grown the most doing stuff on my own. I have a friend group that I work with every week and we make sketch comedy videos using the equipment the university provides us. It’s super fun and on top of that, our professors were more than happy to criticize and guide us on all the content we make. In fact, we now get legit college credit for coming out with weekly sketches. THATS FREAKIN AWESOME! Just wanted to inform everyone about my experience in film school and I’m more than happy to answer any questions y’all have about film school in the comments. I’m entering my third year so I know a thing or two.
wait so do u go right after high school or after college?
With all that you've learned, what do you want to work as (in the industry)
Real_Slim_Shady Right after High school
Piotr Kmiecik The dream is to start my own film studio in Houston to get the film community bigger there. I would also love to be a director.
@@Fiyaball101 good luck. I want to make movies and shows as well. You dont lose when you fail. You lose when you give up
For me, it's the fear of not getting anywhere after I were to finish film school. I absolutely love writing, but right now, I'm in college to get a steady job. I write on the side and plan to enter competitions and post my work on forums to improve. Even though college robs me a lot of time, I accepted my decision as a good middle way to balance the fear of no future and the fear of not having time to write.
I feel you there. I'm in Computer Science/Data Science at my school and plan to just keep making content on the side. A lot of my friends who took their creative hobbies and made them self-sustaining jobs keep telling me that they feel burnout a lot. So I'm just gonna get something steady and keep writing to build up that portfolio.
Yes! I’m in film school right now but i’m terrified afterwards it will be over or stagnant for a long time. Yk what that’s very likely as this is an unstable career but we’re foolish enough to pursue it because we love it so i’m excited to see what the future will bring.
Based on my experience, I would NOT recommend film school. I went to a college (I think Americans call it high school) where I studied creative media. However it focused primarily on film. This course taught me everything from editing, scriptwriting, vfx and compositing, sound production, etc....literally every aspect of film under the sun. My tutors were amazing and extremely knowledgeable. Now whilst college didn't teach me absolutely everything, I had a passion for this so I did a lot of self teaching along side this. I read articles, watched videos from film riot, dslr guide, peter mckinnon, indy mogul, etc....and most importanly...I went out and made films. This single thing here taught me things and gave me experience that no amount school could give me.
Anyway, after college, I applied for university (I'm guessing this is what Americans call college) to study film production. I'm now almost finished with my third and final year. Let me tell you...what a waste. Uni has probably only taught me about 5% of what I know. And even then, that 5% is something I know I would've eventually learnt given time. The stuff they are teaching us is stuff I've learnt in my own time. I've accumulated a tonne of debt from film school for no reason.
In today's world with digital filmmaking, it's so much easier to learn things online and actualy pick up a camera and go film. Film school is only worth it if you get the chance to shoot on analogue film (16mm up ideally) or for the potential connections you may make. But then again....can you justify that much debt for those 2 things. It will still be cheaper to buy a second hand film camera and some film and watch a youtube tutorial on how to load film and shoot with it rather than 3 years of film school. As for the connections...attend and festival or some networking event like the BFI do every year.
My advice, find a good college (High school for Americans) that covers a range of modules and has great teachers. Then teach yourself things alongside this in your spare time. If you have a passion for it you will do it. Not only will your education be free at that age and level, you will learn more than at filmschool.
P.s: I forgot to mention but another reason I went to film school/university was because I didn't know what to do after college and it felt like the natural thing to do at the time. In hindsight, it was wrong but my advice would be to try and find a job. Doesn't necessarily have to be in the film industry, maybe an in house video editor for a company or prehaps a videographer/photographer for a company. Heck any job like a sales assistant or soemthing. Point is, whilst you're working, build up your portfolio, keep learning, try to start freelancing. Make your own films and submit them at festivals. Also try to find jobs on a film set. But you having a job at least gives you an income which allows you to buy things like cameras, lights, lenses, etc..and also pay for your productions for your films.
At the end of the day I'm in the same boat of me deciding what to do next than if I never went to film school. The only difference is that I realised film school was a waste so I didn't attend my lectures and instead, I focused on my portfolio and self learning. I've now build my portfolio up and learnt so much more. I've created a website and I'm now in the process of becoming a full time freelancer.
If you got this far, thank you for reading through my entire essay.
this was actually so helpful!! im from the uk as well and i can’t decide whether to go to a film uni or not, as i’ve just started my media and film alevels. what would you recommend doing instead of film uni?
@@avspid I'm glad it helped. I would recommend doing your A levels. If you do want to go Uni, I would suggest picking a degree in a field that isn't film related. For instance if you want to get into scriptwriting, rather than picking a degree in scriptwriting, maybe opt for English literature. Since it's still relatively linked but the english literature degree is also transferrable. If you ever change field in the future, a english literature degree can still be useful in many industries.....whereas a scriptwriting degree limits you to the film and theatre industries. Long story short, find a degree that is useful in multiple fields but one that you will ultimately enjoy and can see yourself persisting through 3 years.
At the end of the day, Uni can be useful (depending on the degree you choose). However for film it is pointless. In no way am I saying a degree is pointless. Absolutely not. Education is sooo important. However, certain degrees can be a bit of a waste. It's been a year or so since I graduated and I'm still hoping that one day the degree will come in useful and open some doors.
No one in the film industry ever looks if you have a degree or not. They care about the experience you have and the connections you know. There's a saying "it's not what you know but who you know". In this last year, I've been starting my own business amd let me tell you, boy is that saying so true.....most of my work comes from other people I have met rather than applying for a job online and talking about my qualifications.
Thank you for writing this! I switched from film to HR in school. 2 years after graduating, I find myself learning to enjoy the comforts my steady job brings me. I bought a nice mirrorless camera when I took my first job as a reward, but ended up never using it (partially because it was more suited for photography rather than video) because I've had so much fun taking classes over various topics, traveling, and learning new things. I think I can ease my way back into film & get involved with the local arts theater here to make connections & meet those people in the industry. However, it isn't calling me (yet).
@@KiwiWithAHatF8F That's great to hear. I hope you get that calling soon. If you want a recommendation for a cheap mirrorless camera, I'd recommend the Panasonic Lumix G7M. I used to use this camera since college all the way up until recently where I decided to sell it and buy the Sony A7IV. I used the Lumix on my college assigments, uni films and even projects for my clients. It's an advanced camera that specialises equally on video and picture. And it's only around £550 including the kit lens.
But hey, it's great you're taking your time and slowly buying equipment with your income. Do you make microfilms on your own? Or even stop motions. Something you can do for yourself all by yourself?
@@kartarbhogal may i know which country do you go to film school to?
me watching this as an australian: ah yes i will consider nyu, perhaps i will live in los angeles
Me as an American going into VFX: man I wish I lived in Australia with its recently rising vfx industry and los angeles recnt decline into a garbage town
The crispy outro though 😂🔥
I worked as an engineer for 8 years! Always had this burning desire to entertain, my dream is more of an obsession. I saved everything I made, my last day of engineering was 09/13/22. My first day of film school is 09/26/22. I paid my tuition! If you have to do it, you will! If you don’t, you won’t!
How is it so far?
I loved film school, I come from a really rural area so it was a great chance to meet friends who were actually into film and get some practice in. Also like virtually everyone that does film school, it taught me that I really really don't want to be a director despite it being my dream for years, so that's fun.
I’m also from a rural area I feel like I’ll go to college for film studies but everyone will be so much further ahead than me and more knowledgeable as all I can research for film is through online and I don’t have any other resources
As a film student from Argentina I thought I wasn't going to relate to this video at all but every point you made was 100% true. I wanted to major in film only because I knew I was creative, I knew how to use Sony Vegas and I made one messy short film for a school project, that was it. And I have to say it was the best decision I've made because now not only do I have a lot of technical knowledge and know a lot about art and films but I feel like I now have a style, a voice, something to say and the tools to say it. And that's what I'm most grateful for
donde estudias? estoy viendo de estudiar algo relacionado pero todavia no estoy segura de donde :/
@@jimenaacosta1495 Universidad Nacional de Córdoba
The video started with an advert from spike Lee saying "In no way shape or form you have to go to film school" 😂😂
A few weeks ago I dropped out of film school. I was so excited to go and learn, but I quickly learned that they didn't even know what they were doing. It was a fairly new film school, but half their staff are graduates from that specific film school, these people had never worked in the industry. One of the thing I hated was the lack of structure, there wasn't any push or motivation to do it, they tell you to just be motivated which I understand but with meaningless essays and barely making films, your creativity and motivation dies out pretty quickly. The last straw for me was COVID-19, I was going to study from my parents house for my next year, but they quickly informed us that the campus would not be open until New Years, no access to equipment, no access to the one on one help I so very needed, and if you don't have your own equipment and computer, you're undeniably fucked. I don't regret going, I went for 2 years with some of my best friends, and we all made a ton of new ones, I would recommend film school, but not one that hasn't actually got any traction in the industry, choose one that has had successful graduates, you're still going to have to work for it like they did, but they'll have structure there, unlike any new school
What school was it
Don’t be shy tell me the name of the school so I don’t apply there
WHICH ONE?!
@leonor cr Oi, também sou de Portugal (Lisboa) e quero seguir cinema... só não sei onde e se vale a pena. Onde tiraste o curso? Recomendas?
I'm not too sure it's entirely appropriate to name them specifically like this. I obviously don't want to harm the school. All I'd say is it's a film school in the South West of England. Just avoid the south west 😅
Can I be your friend so I can know more "real ass industry" people.
You’re telling me you don’t know any industry people with a name like that? That sounds impossible 🥵
@@Hanbrolo444 nope. 😑 I'm a simple country bumpkin.
“ a youtube tutorial teaches you how to do it , a professor teaches you why to do it “ i literally applied to film school yesterday , thank you .
As an actress in film school right now this was super helpful and on point! So many of the things he’s saying is very true. I’m only i’m my first semester but thankfully my uni actually does more practice than theory (so we’re out here making films and learning the “why”). It’s really important for film schools to focus more on that imo because the industry cares more about who you know and your experience and not whether or not you have a degree or where it’s from. Good luck to all aspiring filmmakers/actors out there! You will shine.⭐️
Got a BA in art history and film theory and now work in the art department, as a props buyer/maker, for film and TV (have worked on small independent projects and big multimillion dollar blockbusters). A lot of my older colleagues/industry veterans couldn’t give a shit if you went to film school or not. At least not in my department... I share this just in case someone else is reading this comment and wants to go down a similar path. I understand that the technical side of film production needs to be learnt so you have that experience under your belt. I get that. However, initiative and a willingness to consistently learn on the job is what most people are looking for. Also, don’t be afraid to cold call/email people, ask them to coffee to pick them brain, offer to help them out on set for a day. That ability to find connections is probably more invaluable than anything else. Of my friends who went to film school, they paid not only for the course but also the ability to access connections that you otherwise might not have found as easily if you didn’t go to film school. But if you take that extra initiative and look for yourself, you’d be surprised!!! ☺️
Sorry in advance, but did you go to a film school or like “normal” (I put normal and the quotes because I’m not entirely sure how to phrase it) college
@@m.josena4485 sorry, just replying on a different account, but to answer your question I just went to a regular university... never stepped foot in film school.
The greatest advantage of film school is the networking, you make connections and friends with people of the industry which can give you opportunities to work on big projects, you meet people who can recommend you to other contacts.
I was actually considering changing my major from Film to Economics before watching this vid 😳, was surprised to find out a lot of people do this. Felt so random, lol.
Going on my last year as a screenwriting major, and I have to say I have to say that I have more positive things to say about going than negative things. I think a lot of people go to film school, and don't take the full benefits of what they're offered. Too many students believe that just going to class and completing homework will turn them into the next Tarantino, which isn't the case in my opinion. The best film schools are the schools that focus more on production instead of theory and history. After learning the basics of creating a short film, I think every student (especially juniors and seniors) should always be in the process of creating something because creating films is what makes you a better filmmaker... not studying and writing papers on them. If you go into film school and look as it as a tool to improve you're filmmaking craft, than I don't see the problem with it.
Hii, just wanted to ask how the course is going for you and if what you learnt in screenwriting was helpful and added more to what you already knew? I am considering this too but as a MFA degree. Would like to know what your thoughts are on that. I am currently getting a degree in media and communication and want to do this^ later and to an extent my parents were convinced till we met with a councillor and she told us that the only people who make it or can make it are ones with deep pockets or star kids. Idk what to feel anymore. I really wanna do this but my parents are sceptical now ☹️😩 and honestly I don’t blame them that councillor really dissuaded us. Lmk , thanks !
@@kimayakumar6328 Hey Kimaya! So currently the course is going great. I'm taking an adaptation class where I have to adapt either a book, short story, or novel(I'm adapting a video game haha) and either convert it into a feature length or pilot script. This is more of an advanced class, so it expects you to already know the basics of structure and story beats. I already knew basic screenwriting structure before I started taking more of the advanced classes, but what the advanced classes helped with is practice and learning to write with a deadline. I have a year left, and the classes that I've completed had me write a short film, a spec script, half a movie, and I'm working on my first pilot script(these don't even count the scripts that I've written outside of school). While these scripts may not be amazing(I like them), what my school has given me is PRACTICE. People need to make trash in order to make quality. I think in your situation, getting a MFA in Screenwriting is a great idea, because not only will you get plenty of practice from your screenwriting classes, but you'll most likely get basic filmmaking and production classes. Also I think the comment from your counselor about people who make it are the ones with deep pockets or star kids is somewhat bullshit. I admit they have an advantage, but if you want to work in this industry, its up to you to not only get better, but study the industry so you can figure out your way into the door.
@@BrandonJamesPLUGS Hi ! thanks so much for replying and letting me know. It was really helpful and insightful. Good luck 💖
How would I be able to know which film schools do more practice/hands on than just theory tho?
Sorry if it’s a dumb question *
Was an honor to be in the same class as you last quarter! This is a great video. Best of luck to your future film career, hope to work with you someday!
Are you talking serious? 🧐
Five seconds in: "Spielberg went to USC"
Me: *Kill Bill sirens*
"When you go to film school, you become friends with a lot of people...who are friends with other people and are friends with other people, and all of a sudden you have a bigger circle than you ever could have imagined."
Very well said. The single best thing about film school are the friends I made there. It's been 15 years since graduating, and we're still very involved in each other's lives.
this just made me more nervous lmao
As a film student in Spain and with my third year student knowledge, i aprove this message
Hola, soy de España también. Como es el nivel de las clases en España?
So do you speak spanish? 🧐
@@onopofilms3644 I do lol I am from Spain
@@angela_0165 Supongo que depende mucho de la universidad a la que vayas. Todo es investigarlo, pero dicen que esta bien :)
It’s so wired because last night I had a dream about going to film school. I’m taking it as a sign ✨🙌🏼✨
Are you for real?
That's dumb
@A Champion Lol. I'm not hating, it just sounds like a dumb decision. I might be saving her a whole lot of time, money, and hassle.
Are you a minion?
Are you at a film school now ?
I always wanted to go to Vancouver Film School, but my family wasn’t very well off, so I went into Economics & Marketing because I found that a little interesting too and it helped me get some cool & well paying internships. I do regret not going into film sometimes, but I’ve found solace in just appreciating the arts other people make (and I work on my own paintings now, so I can keep my creative side alive! )
This is definitely the best “should you go to film school” video actually made by a properly informed person who understands how the industry works.
But he didn't answeered the question 😧😧
Onopo Films He did though. And the answer isn’t ‘yes’ or ‘no’. It’s clearly more complicated and dependant on your own situation.
Is your aim is to be able to easily access connections and equipment, then yes. The important thing is to try to keep those connections after film school.
Went to a regular uni and studied film... started with biology and somehow ended here. My advice, get your bachelors and dip, maybe get a double major or a minor as backup. But yeah connections are always good, unless you're a lovely introvert, then you're gonna need to depend on that raw talent and a breakthrough :) GL!
well i'm at an early age ( like in middle school ) where i want to persuade film school and be a film director, cinematography director esc-- but i dont know where to start because i'm a literal child.
recently i've been watching a ton of old indie movies and stuff and they make me so inspired to be a film cinematographer myself, i've been focusing on shots and angels.
The youtube channel StudioBinder is sort of like a free online film school. I learned so much about cinematography from that channel so you should check it out, I think it'd be really helpful and fun
And if you wanna learn screenwriting, I would consider watching the channel, Tyler Mowery. He has so many great videos about screenwriting to help you get started.
during one of your live-streams i remember asking you this question and your advice was very similar to what you said here. the thing is during that time i was just a junior in high school dreaming of the idea but now i’m a senior getting ready to apply to colleges and who is also interested in getting into the film industry. videos like this help fuel that passion even though i have no experience. hopefully one day i can look back at this video and thank you again for helping make this decision!
As an aspiring film-maker this was very insightful!
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Ok
This is literally the first thing I've found that is actually helpful and acknowledges a lot of valid questions! So thanks!
I’m 25 and I’m enrolling into school after dropping out when I was 21. In that time I’ve thought a lot about what matters to me, what I would like to pursue. Over the last few years I’ve purchased camera gear and have dabbled in the live music side of directing. I’ve shot a few live shows, shot and edited music videos, amateur stuff. But while I’ve done so, there has been this itch to do more, to create more. I’ve always had a passion for films and reasonings behind certain shots or ways to make an audience look at one thing or another. Over the last 5 years, I’ve learned a lot about myself and it’s made me realize that it’s not too late for me to pursue a degree, at least in something I’m passionate about. I don’t expect that this will land me a job, shit I might not even make to where I think I want to go, but that’s okay. It’s not about the destination, it’s about the journey, right?
Exactly!
how’s it going now
Film school is a great way to network when you know absolutely no one. I still work with a lot or the people I studied with 5 years after we graduated and I have like people I can build a quick and reliable crew with on the fly. Plus it opened my mind to just how many avenues in the industry there are that I wouldn't have figured out as quick on my own. Its a good stepping stone if ya know nothing and no one and its a nice bridge into the industry after you graduate because you'll at least have a reel when you leave school and you would have interned somewhere you could apply to.
K-dog is back at it again with another banger video! Your videos are always the highlight of my week! In fact, you inspired me to make my own video essays on my channel! This one was especially good, too!
My answer as somebody who went to a film school:
No. Don't. Apprenticeship or starting at the bottom.
Start at the bottom where? Like who do you apprentice with? I have so many questions
@@user-km9bx3gf3z Ultra TL;DR:
Apprenticeship at a production company or any media place that has one going/has a scheme.
Starting from the bottom: Being a runner, production assistant or any one of those kinds of gigs and then you work your way up from there.
@Mookie Über Alles you gotta start somewhere, man.
Update - Still feel this, very much wish I did an apprenticeship, many more of those roles in the UK than video jobs, very close to giving up the dream and moving on to IT.
This is exactly why I’m subscribed to you I’m finally transferring to film school this year and this gave me a big relief on whether I should go or not thanks for sharing you story Karsten
My uncle (who is my major inspiration for pursuing cinematograph) went to film school in the early 2000 and he said that connections are the MUST IMPORTANT THING if you want to grow in the film industry this may not apply to all sections of it but knowing someone who knows your work may lead your way to projects and you may lead the way for others one day too!!
Hey, I’m starting film school in the fall! How crazy is that!
This video was very helpful in reaffirming that this was in fact the right decision for me
It's not just reaffirming, it's straight facts. I'm from Aus and just started and can highly approve this message
@@johnbcooper Which film school? I'm also from Aus and am leaning towards film school but don't know whether to go to an Australian school or American because I want a school with teachers that actually know what they're talking about.
@@XxParadoxGameplaysxX SAE CREATIVE INSTITUTE it's worldwide but a really great place to go study at. It's absolutely amazing and worth it.
how's it going
@@kripa6022 not too bad
I was literally just scrolling through Karsts channel like man, imma watch an old vid, but boy I wish he would drop a new one...and BAM KARST WTF U JUST TOTALY RED MY MIND
This is so much better than any other video I’ve seen about film school. Thank you, sir. In my case I want to be an author and a director and screenwriter. I’m in a tough boat about what exactly to study, how, and when but this was genuinely helpful.
This is great, I have been bingeing film school vids and your podcast for the last seven hours. Gotta love a never ending playlist.
I actually got my certification in Avid Media Composer from film school just recently... it may be the most valuable credential I received from college lol
Realistically what film school did for me is it acted as a funnel for knowing what part of filmmaking I wanted to get into, which turned out to be somewhere in post-production. I found out I enjoy editing and visual effects. I'm now working my way toward becoming a junior comp artist, which is a very specific role when compared to my mindset going into college which was "I want to work on movies in some way".
I’m having a really hard time trying to decide what to do in college but I really somehow want to get into film. Similar to what you said, I don’t know what I want to do but I know I want to be a part of it. I JSUT DONT KNOW WHAT OR HOW, but I also don’t want to waste my time going to film school if it’s not worth it. I also want to have a back up option because I don’t fully trust ONLY going into film. I okay the piano, I do a LOTTT of art, and I dance so I have a lot of experience in the arts. Though I don’t want to do one of those full time, that’s why I was thinking of film. But like where do I even go from there because I’m stuck. I LOVEEEEE film and everything about it, I just always imagine I want to be there and be creating these, but what is the best way for me to get there? I just don’t know hahahaha
As a film student my biggest takeaway was meeting a whole bunch of people who had the same interests as me. I felt it was easier for me to make connections through film school then outside it.
I agree. Connections are everything.
Hey Karsten, I relate so much to you and I think you're one of the only youtubers I look up to in the way you make videos. Keep up the amazing work
You should watch Lindsay Ellis
I love that you made this video talking about film/art school. I see so many self made internet artists and filmmakers claiming how dropping out has been the best thing ever. It’s just great to see someone who isn’t swaying someone but is just informing and sparking a conversation!
LMAOO "they choose economics instead". I'm studying economics and business and wanna get into filmmaking :D
From my experience a lot of film students are very toxic. There are you nice and down to earth guys, but nothing annoys me more then a pretentious 20 year old who think he’s knows the ins and outs, and take everything overly serious.
Movies are supposed to be fun
this video deserves more retribution. the amount of clarity I was able to glean from this is unmeasurable. thank you
thank you so much for this king! i’m a junior in hs right now and this honestly helped tremendously and the way you put everything made complete sense so yeah thanks!
i am currently contemplating leaving my architecture course as I’ve got zero passion for it , but I’ve always loved film and loved watching BTS and CZcams videos about the filmmaking process , this was really helpful, thank you! 🙏🏾
yo man how did it go?
"the one marvel guy" ummmmm yup that describes me perfectly in my film program
same. hahahaha
thanks for this video, ive been contemplating this for a while even though im only a sophmore in high school and i never got any actual advice from an actual film major. i love ur channel, keep doing what ur doing :)
wow this is amazing timing. i’m a rising senior and i’m just now trying to decide if i want to commit to film school. thanks a lot
It is truly wonderful we live in such a time when videos like this exist.
You know what, as someone who's about to start film school and is still really scared and unsure about it, I feel like I really needed to hear this. Thank you
Don't be nervous. Film school is a lot of fun. You'll have a blast. Hopefully you can attend without any problems because of the pandemic.
I’ve never seen anyone thank their patrons like that! That’s awesome
Yessss. The video we've all been waiting for. We love you Karsten
I'm taking filmmaking classes at a community college, and while it's not the best quality classrooms or equipment, I feel like I'm getting the opportunity to develop skills and gain knowledge I otherwise wouldn't get on my own for little to no money at all. I am also meeting people that are passionate enough about this career to take these classes, who I will definitely think of calling when pursuing projects in the future. I highly recommend it!
Me as a 3rd year econ major who has never even considered film school: hmmmmmmm
Honestly, after watching a wide range of your videos recently, I wanted to switch my options from a business course to film school!!!! Thank you for this!!
I just wanted to pipe in from a radically different perspective: you're 100% right.
It's been a dream of mine since high school to make an indie film. I followed everyone's advice and studied something "more practical" (biology/marine biology) while studying a bunch of aspects of filmmaking on my own. Not just CZcams videos but reading text books about cinematography and tracking down movies like Battleship Potompkin. I can even write well enough that I've sold several short stories.
The problem is that I've moved away, figuratively and literally, from all my theater friends from high school. I have the know how and resources to make a credible swing at making a movie but absolutely no one in my life who could really help me on this.
I'm considering trying to either get a teaching job at a college that has a film program or doing my PhD at one so I can take a few film classes to try and cultivate connections. But that seems kinda far fetched.
The biggest reason to go to film school is to surround yourself with people who want to make movies bad enough to go to film school.
Thank you for this! I find this really helpful for I am currently writing a novel, where one of the main characters is a film student who loves coffee.
Also his closest friend is probably a witch who needs coffee to do stuff,so...yeah 🌟
Here in Mexico there’s a film school that belongs to the best university in Latin-America (the one Alfonso Cuarón went to) and it’s completely free, should that change my perspective in any way?
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Absolutely go. It’s free, so there’s nothing much to lose
This is pretty much the same conclusion I've come to about film school. I'm in my third year and feel like I've barely learned anything from my academic classes yet I feel so much more confident as a filmmaker because of the people I've met and the experiences I've had on set. Meeting people and working on stuff with them is definitely the most beneficial part of the whole process. However, if you know what you're doing and already have a strong group of friends/colleagues who have an interest in film it really isn't worth the money. Excellent video!
as someone who is most likely attending emerson this fall, this was a super informative video. i’ve been a bit nervous about majoring in film (well, “media production”) just because of all the basic stigma that comes along with it and being worried about wasting money, but there are tons of benefits such as the knowledge that goes beyond what you can learn online and the connections. i would definitely say go if you can afford it (i would not be going if i didn’t get lots of money in scholarships) and try to find other passions and interests at your college as well. this video is pretty much what i needed to hear so thanks karsten :)
I’m going to major in media studies in the fall but all I have is the bare minimum knowledge for editing, and a hope to become a better writer. Thank you for reassuring me that this wasn’t a mistake.
My question: Should I go to film school?
The answer: Idk go to film school and form your own opinion.
EDIT: although I'm very invested in movie making I've never really considered going into film school. This was very interesting, thank you for making this video.
Many thanks for the advice, Karsten. You're inspirational.
Great video man. As someone who is currently in film school I’ve have doubts and changed my mind on what exactly I want to do. Coming in, directing and screenwriting was the goal, yet it’s kind of changed to screenwriting and film criticism. What hasn’t changed though is my love and passion for film. This is just the thing that I needed to continue to pursue my goals. Thanks.
last time I was this early, I was still waiting Denis Villeneuve´s Dune
Who is Denis Villeneuve? 🧐🧐
I guess the most important thing is to understand as soon a possible what you DON'T wanna do. Producer =money, excel life, director =writing and deal with actors. Actually I found editing the most rewarding experience, because there is a moment where everything disappear and there are just you and the footage. You make a cut, you add some music and magic happens.
The same dude..😅
The basics of filmmaking, valuable and rare connections, a real taste of the industry, helps to form a plan, but is pricey … thanks for the vid. This helped me a lot.
Im still pissed ur favorite streaming service wasn’t my favorite streaming service
As a music major I can relate heavily to this video as it’s another “useless degree” Major, I feel it’s important to view these degrees as jobs themselves and not just another 4 years of school
got some not too hopeful news from my college that ive committed to for fall, as a just graduated senior it really freaked me out. i needed this, thank you
thank you sm for this!! i’ll be going to lmu in the fall for film production and i’m so excited:)
as a first year film student who’s doubting absolutely everything, thank u very much :))