We put $5500 of LANDS in these Thunder Junction Precons! | Stella Lee VS Yuma VS Gonti VS Olivia

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Komentáře • 91

  • @csimons
    @csimons Před 2 měsíci +35

    18:46 I'm pretty sure Bill could have cast Finale of Promise for X=0 with no targets, just to get the 3rd spell cast turned on so he could copy the Big Score.

    • @whorcares123
      @whorcares123 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Came to the comment section to say this and lo and behold someone beat me to it. Yes, because Finale of Promise says "up to" he can legally cast it for X = 0 with no targets. Doing so would have allowed him to tap Stella Lee to copy Big Score, letting him go +3 on card advantage and make 4 treasures.
      Pretty big miss on his part, but in his defense, the precon seems pretty complicated.

  • @AnnihilatorDigimon
    @AnnihilatorDigimon Před 2 měsíci +61

    Good God that Game winning play was bonkers and I love it.

    • @kousukekun2059
      @kousukekun2059 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Classic Izzet killing everyone at the same time LOL

  • @WiLDRAGE777
    @WiLDRAGE777 Před 2 měsíci +20

    These last two videos had such "Hello, I'm Alex and I don't know any of these people." vibes during the intro it's absolutely amazing!

  • @trilakesrob
    @trilakesrob Před 2 měsíci +6

    enjoyed the postgame discussion, great game to watch. fun comments tying into the theme with Gonti stealing lands: "jumping those claims" & "homestead act stuff"

  • @alexmcgregor8658
    @alexmcgregor8658 Před 2 měsíci +187

    Like this comment to spend another $ on land

    • @josiahsantos6286
      @josiahsantos6286 Před 2 měsíci

      My favorite player on the spike feeder followed by Jim

    • @andristic
      @andristic Před 2 měsíci

      That "it finally happened" around 6:30 was so dirty. you're a bad bad man 😂

    • @yubeluchiha
      @yubeluchiha Před 2 měsíci

      Thinking about getting lake of the dead for my tergrid god of fright once I start building it ❤

    • @lightfut
      @lightfut Před 2 měsíci

      American or Canadian?

  • @nolifeSnorlax
    @nolifeSnorlax Před 2 měsíci +9

    Can’t wait to see Stella fully unleashed. In 20+ years of magic I never cared for Izzet or spell slinging but this precon is nuts and I’m gonna build it :)

  • @nathantyrrell3824
    @nathantyrrell3824 Před 2 měsíci +5

    I keep coming back for the fun banter in the intros

  • @nickhaight2557
    @nickhaight2557 Před 2 měsíci +1

    sweet game! love the upgrades, not only to the decks but also to the graphic assets. looking sharp spikes!

  • @brningpyre
    @brningpyre Před 2 měsíci +11

    2:55 Wasn't that Bon Jovi, not The Eagles?

  • @mikaelalv
    @mikaelalv Před 2 měsíci +4

    Shout out to the editor for the arrested development joke.

  • @Ragnarok633
    @Ragnarok633 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Good showcase of why its important to have good mana bases in your commander decks. Been playing the nelly borca precon from Murders at karlov manor and the single best upgrade I did to it, was pulling out all those utility lands that only tapped for colorless and put in ones that actually made red and white mana for my spells it played SO much smoother.

  • @jacobtrahan1993
    @jacobtrahan1993 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Sweet release schedule! Great idea

  • @brawlerike1
    @brawlerike1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The new banners are cool and I like the spike wink at the bottom

  • @lamb7283
    @lamb7283 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That was awesome. Those decks look like a blast.

  • @hanfjord
    @hanfjord Před 2 měsíci +2

    Big fan of the planned series for precon vids! The series themes make sense to me, might be helpful for newer players if there's a ~15 sec explanation at the beginning of the vid/before intros to say why a given entry in the series is a thing (apols in advance if i missed it in this one or the previous!)

  • @BsRascaL
    @BsRascaL Před 2 měsíci +1

    epic game! Love the upgraded mana base idea

  • @LeojPies
    @LeojPies Před 2 měsíci +1

    What an insane turn by Bill. What a card!

  • @damonhebert418
    @damonhebert418 Před 2 měsíci

    you guys are the most fun to watch.

  • @BAdCommander
    @BAdCommander Před 2 měsíci +3

    Best way to watch precon content.

  • @andrewdurham5385
    @andrewdurham5385 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Was not expecting that end. Wow.

  • @dominiclanava9465
    @dominiclanava9465 Před 2 měsíci

    Guys the warlock sound effect is Eldritch blast

  • @TheGrifcannon22
    @TheGrifcannon22 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Boy howdy! That was a rootin' tootin' barn burner! I tell you what!

  • @cryptidseal5951
    @cryptidseal5951 Před 2 měsíci

    The new graphics and intro are so cool!

  • @frankmorris4603
    @frankmorris4603 Před 2 měsíci

    That Izzet Deck has been putting on a show

  • @julienst-onge3554
    @julienst-onge3554 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I love when Bill is on the channel!

  • @F3A5T
    @F3A5T Před 2 měsíci

    Just shows how much good lands make decks work

  • @chemicalexposure8537
    @chemicalexposure8537 Před 2 měsíci

    10:18 Aaron joked about looking at the top card, but in the rules, he actually DOES have to look at the card before exiling it face down to be able to look at it again in future
    CR 406.3. ... Cards “exiled face down” can’t be examined by any player except when instructions allow it. However, if a player is instructed to look at a card and then exile it face down, or once a player is allowed to look at a card exiled face down, that player may continue to look at that card until it leaves the exile zone or is part of a pile of cards that are shuffled, even if the instruction allowing the player to do so no longer applies.
    If Gonti, Canny Acquisitor didn't allow Aaron to look at the card before exiling it face down, he would never be allowed to look at the exiled card

  • @garrettmiller2997
    @garrettmiller2997 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I live for this type of content lol

  • @Taphosthewarlock
    @Taphosthewarlock Před 2 měsíci +1

    Surely Jim's "wanted" was Bon Jovi's "Wanted Dead or Alive" and not the Eagles?

  • @devinkerr5474
    @devinkerr5474 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Question about cursed mirror, wording states it "when it ETBs, you may have it become a copy of X", not that it "ETBs as a copy of X", would the Gonti trigger still trigger as the Mirror/Gonti is already on the Battlefield when copy happens?

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Great question! Cursed Mirror's oracle text is actually
      As Cursed Mirror enters the battlefield, you may have it become a copy of any creature on the battlefield until end of turn, except it has haste.
      ETB triggers always start with the word 'when', 'whenever', or 'at'. Cursed Mirror's ability modifies how it enters the battlefield, so any ETB triggers will happen as normal.

  • @arcticblast3247
    @arcticblast3247 Před 2 měsíci +2

    8:16 hey there bud

  • @bryankopkin6869
    @bryankopkin6869 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That game was sweet! Gg

  • @camoyuki
    @camoyuki Před 2 měsíci +2

    Did the decks feel much different with upgraded lands vs the base versions?

    • @joze6069
      @joze6069 Před 2 měsíci

      i think especially for the yuma desert deck was helpful.
      But in general upgrading lands help a lot but yea it can get expensive, i will deff upgrade some lands for my yuma deck

  • @ana-alyciajuarez5958
    @ana-alyciajuarez5958 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Warlocks sound like “AAAVVAADAAAA KAAADDAAVVRRAAAA!!!!”

  • @TheDevilRisen5308
    @TheDevilRisen5308 Před 2 měsíci

    Haughty Djinn, what a good buddy!

  • @franciscotavares4600
    @franciscotavares4600 Před 2 měsíci

    As a Mexican i love the desert deck with cactus

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 Před 2 měsíci

    Great game

  • @ericap1098
    @ericap1098 Před 2 měsíci +1

    These decks look like so much fun. Even while reading deck lists in my head, the accent comes out.
    Awesome shout out to all of our trans masc homies out there! ❤️

  • @Gorcyca
    @Gorcyca Před 2 měsíci +2

    You’ve “yee’d” your last “haw”

  • @user-mf4lw9wy4e
    @user-mf4lw9wy4e Před 2 měsíci

    I love the Thief Deck

  • @Brian-zc7rl
    @Brian-zc7rl Před 2 měsíci

    I love how the editors preemptively made Aaron a liar 😂

  • @danielpedro3773
    @danielpedro3773 Před 2 měsíci

    2:54 - The Eagles????? Wanted Dead or Alive is from Bon Jovi, isn't it?

  • @KaleDragon
    @KaleDragon Před měsícem

    Aaron with the goated monster flavour

  • @kevinwestermann1001
    @kevinwestermann1001 Před 2 měsíci

    So Alex is the reason for anthropogenic desertification? O:

  • @SylveonSimp
    @SylveonSimp Před 2 měsíci

    This Vihaan Goldwaker seems incredibly strong to me.

  • @kylecarson3318
    @kylecarson3318 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Every time someone said Olivia my brain did a double take thinking Olivia had come up from California

    • @mopanda81
      @mopanda81 Před 2 měsíci

      Which Olivia seems like the better vampire noble turned bandit gang leader: hijinks olivia or commander at home olivia

  • @alternateimagegaming
    @alternateimagegaming Před 2 měsíci +2

    I always forget to hit like, so here's some engagement.

  • @craiglehman2351
    @craiglehman2351 Před 2 měsíci

    Wouldn't Omnath blinked from Hostage Taker entering?

    • @SamErvin
      @SamErvin Před 2 měsíci

      I had to look this one up myself. Turns out the answer is no, visible in the Oracle rulings for the card. It has to do with how the duration effect works ("until Hostage Taker leaves"), which is different from older/different cards like Fiend Hunter.

  • @taylorjohnson5148
    @taylorjohnson5148 Před 2 měsíci

    What a way to win the game

  • @burningpapersun1
    @burningpapersun1 Před 2 měsíci

    So much land thieving. I need it for my manifest destiny cosplay.

  • @arrowodd7695
    @arrowodd7695 Před 2 měsíci

    Was that an alpha volcanic island…

  • @Deadpoolbigboss287
    @Deadpoolbigboss287 Před 2 měsíci

    You didn’t explain why you put $5500 into lands. Do the thunder junction precons have bad stock mana bases? Or could I run them how they come with no problem?

    • @andrewsutherland1909
      @andrewsutherland1909 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The land bases are ok but still contain a lot of enters tapped lands. They seem to have filled out each deck with fetches, shocks and multi color lands that enter untapped to make the decks run faster.

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I mean how much better does a few old lands make a deck?

    • @JustinNovack
      @JustinNovack Před 2 měsíci +1

      This ended in Turn 8 and there was the ability for the Izzet deck to kill 3 people with over 80 damage presented. Go and compare this showing of the Izzet deck with the last video and LoadingReadyRun's playthrough of the deck where both pilots had less than 10% screentime. I would say "significant".

    • @crovax1375
      @crovax1375 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@JustinNovack A turn 8 win for only an extra $5500? Why aren't more people doing this?!

  • @roshiofficially4968
    @roshiofficially4968 Před 2 měsíci

    It's the name of the movie. xD

  • @wimfranken826
    @wimfranken826 Před 2 měsíci

    You may spend mana as though it were mana of any type to cast it.
    If this mana is spent to cast instant/sorcery copy it. Is a type you should be able to use then or did they put it in the rules about all the special types of mana.

  • @craigfernandez4433
    @craigfernandez4433 Před 2 měsíci

    Y’all know that’s a Bon Jovi song right..? Or is that the joke lol

  • @qualitychap521
    @qualitychap521 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Why do you keep saying "Eagles" for a "Bon Jovi" song?!?

  • @BackyardDan
    @BackyardDan Před 2 měsíci +1

    Is Yuma trans-masc?

  • @Duskid
    @Duskid Před 2 měsíci +1

    Is there any way to win this version of the deck. (jk jk)

  • @muhdafiq3329
    @muhdafiq3329 Před 2 měsíci

    this is the kind of content i'm loving! different from the others! so glad i could see these decks performing at their 100% (thanks wotc for the shitty manabase)

  • @Naim_less
    @Naim_less Před 2 měsíci

    I paused this video at 0:33. My money is on Stella. That girl is CRACKED and I can't wait to upgrade her...

  • @rhettk6263
    @rhettk6263 Před 2 měsíci +3

    this is a way of acknowledging that wizards is terrible at making land bases in precons without saying that so they continue getting sponsored

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Not at all, we regularly get requests to show pre-cons with upgraded mana bases. Often people want to see how the decks will play if they're not slowed down by ETB tapped lands.

  • @heykak
    @heykak Před 2 měsíci

    It is kinda weird that none of the precons deal with either plotting/out of hand casting or crime...

    • @theaamanable
      @theaamanable Před 2 měsíci

      I’m sorry what? Gonti only cares about out of hand casting???

    • @heykak
      @heykak Před 2 měsíci

      @@theaamanable yeah, that was a complete brainfart from me

  • @DarthTUK
    @DarthTUK Před 2 měsíci

    This excercise feels so pointless. Why upgrade just the mana? Why upgrage it to cEDH levels?
    The game was sweet, don't get me wrong.

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před 2 měsíci +8

      People commonly criticize the landbases in the decks, so we wanted to showcase the deck strategies in a way that they weren't constrained by ETBT lands and poor fixing.

    • @theaamanable
      @theaamanable Před 2 měsíci +2

      If you think that a deck having original duals fetches and shocks makes it “cEDH level” you are sorely mistaken 😂 casual decks run fetches shocks and duals lol

    • @DarthTUK
      @DarthTUK Před 2 měsíci

      @@theaamanable Get a grip on reality - a "casual deck" costs less than a single dual. I really pity your meta if everyone has your tryhard mentality.

    • @DarthTUK
      @DarthTUK Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TheSpikeFeeders Fair. It just felt so disjointed - having a sports car engine in a family hatchback cuz you went to the extreme with the upgrade :D But to be fair the manabases in the precons have gotten better in recent years. If only WotC wouldn't hold back on battlebond lands 😔

    • @eternaleclypse
      @eternaleclypse Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@DarthTUK Your definition of "cEDH level" shows a lack of understanding in deck construction and purpose. Changing the manabase merely fixed the mana performance. It did not increase the efficiency of each decks game plan, which was discussed at the end of the video. That requires upgraded card quality for spells and dedication to one or two established win conditions that win on the stack. None of that was present here.
      Having O.G. duals and fetches doesn't make anyone a tryhard. And shaming anyone for their collection doesn't make you a better commander player.

  • @WaitWaitDontKillMe
    @WaitWaitDontKillMe Před 2 měsíci +2

    just fill Alex's deck with alpha basics so the cost evens out a bit